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IRC Log for 2011-07-01

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03:20:00Helmickaramazovapy, are you there?
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03:21:00zoomberWHY HELLO
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03:25:00zoombersam686: woudl you like to go to the ucob practice server?
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03:25:00zoomberhi helmic
03:25:00HelmicWhy hello.
03:25:00zoomberkaramazovapy was here eariler
03:26:00zoomberbut he must be afk right now
03:26:00sam686forum last visited for k: 75 minutes ago..
03:33:00HelmicWhelp.
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04:28:00raptorsam686: that is one large GIF you have on your account...
04:28:00raptorin the forums
04:28:00raptor2.7 MB
04:33:00sam686one large GIF is not hosted in bitfighter.org... it is linked to my server..
04:33:00raptorah... interesting
04:34:00raptori wonder, do GIFs start playing right away - even if you don't have all of it downloaded?
04:34:00sam686maybe, it may pause waiting for downloading the rest..
04:36:00raptor486 frames!!!
04:37:00raptor29 seconds...
04:37:00sam686i just converted about 30 seconds of video into GIF, in 15 frames per second.
04:39:00sam686is it a good idea for fun, or a bad idea for others having to download large GIF>
04:39:00raptoractually, i just tested it - it starts right away, even after not downloading it
04:39:00raptori thinks it's pretty cool
04:40:00sam686probably cache partially helps reduce bandwidth..
04:40:00sam686One good thing, no extra bandwidth in bitfighter.org servers.
04:40:00raptoryes, that was a good i dea
04:42:00raptori bet you could get that gif as half the size using a smaller pallette
04:43:00raptorright now it's using 256 pallette - i think bitfighter only has like 20 or so
04:44:00sam686line smoothing and reducing size resizing procuces smoothing needing lots of palette.
04:45:00raptoroh yeah - that makes sense
04:46:00sam686the only thing, i just pick out a avi to gif converter, which don't have palette options. http://download.cnet.com/Video-AVI-to-GIF-JPEG-Converter/3000-2194_4-10379741.html
04:46:00sam686maybe i could use a better one that offers more options...
04:48:00raptori'm using imagemagick on your gif
04:52:00raptorreducing to 128 colors looks like no noticible color loss, but only reduction of 300K
04:53:00raptorreducing to 32 colors has a barely noticible color loss with a reduction of 1.5MB
04:53:00raptorreducing to 64 colors has no noticible color loss, but reduction of 600K
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04:54:00sam686ok.. animated gif don't compress very good..
04:54:00raptornope..
04:55:00raptori wonder...
04:59:00raptorgrayscale 16 colors still looks neat: http://96.2.123.136/upload/11040807_gray_16.gif
05:02:00sam686thats like only 8 shades of gray scale..
05:02:00sam686the other 8 of 16 colors is black..
05:02:00raptoryou can see the specific pallette?
05:03:00sam686i have a very very old software called "MGI PhotoSuite SE" that can see all palettes of gif.
05:03:00raptorsweet!
05:03:00sam686unfortunately, it does not support animated GIF, it only reads first frame.
05:06:00sam686gray 4 bit, 8 colors, uses 532 KB, my original used 2804 KB..
05:06:00sam686grayscale is hard to see blue walls.
05:07:00raptorah
05:07:00raptortrue
05:08:00raptorwell, i'm off to bed
05:08:00raptorgood night
05:09:00sam686ok night..
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08:29:00LordDVGis there someone who want to play bitfighter?
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