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| 03:20:00 | Helmic | karamazovapy, are you there? |
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| 03:21:00 | zoomber | WHY HELLO |
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| 03:24:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 03:24:00 | zoomber | hi |
| 03:25:00 | zoomber | sam686: woudl you like to go to the ucob practice server? |
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| 03:25:00 | zoomber | hi helmic |
| 03:25:00 | Helmic | Why hello. |
| 03:25:00 | zoomber | karamazovapy was here eariler |
| 03:26:00 | zoomber | but he must be afk right now |
| 03:26:00 | sam686 | forum last visited for k: 75 minutes ago.. |
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| 04:28:00 | raptor | sam686: that is one large GIF you have on your account... |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | in the forums |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | 2.7 MB |
| 04:33:00 | sam686 | one large GIF is not hosted in bitfighter.org... it is linked to my server.. |
| 04:33:00 | raptor | ah... interesting |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | i wonder, do GIFs start playing right away - even if you don't have all of it downloaded? |
| 04:34:00 | sam686 | maybe, it may pause waiting for downloading the rest.. |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | 486 frames!!! |
| 04:37:00 | raptor | 29 seconds... |
| 04:37:00 | sam686 | i just converted about 30 seconds of video into GIF, in 15 frames per second. |
| 04:39:00 | sam686 | is it a good idea for fun, or a bad idea for others having to download large GIF> |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | actually, i just tested it - it starts right away, even after not downloading it |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | i thinks it's pretty cool |
| 04:40:00 | sam686 | probably cache partially helps reduce bandwidth.. |
| 04:40:00 | sam686 | One good thing, no extra bandwidth in bitfighter.org servers. |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | yes, that was a good i dea |
| 04:42:00 | raptor | i bet you could get that gif as half the size using a smaller pallette |
| 04:43:00 | raptor | right now it's using 256 pallette - i think bitfighter only has like 20 or so |
| 04:44:00 | sam686 | line smoothing and reducing size resizing procuces smoothing needing lots of palette. |
| 04:45:00 | raptor | oh yeah - that makes sense |
| 04:46:00 | sam686 | the only thing, i just pick out a avi to gif converter, which don't have palette options. http://download.cnet.com/Video-AVI-to-GIF-JPEG-Converter/3000-2194_4-10379741.html |
| 04:46:00 | sam686 | maybe i could use a better one that offers more options... |
| 04:48:00 | raptor | i'm using imagemagick on your gif |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | reducing to 128 colors looks like no noticible color loss, but only reduction of 300K |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | reducing to 32 colors has a barely noticible color loss with a reduction of 1.5MB |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | reducing to 64 colors has no noticible color loss, but reduction of 600K |
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| 04:54:00 | sam686 | ok.. animated gif don't compress very good.. |
| 04:54:00 | raptor | nope.. |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | i wonder... |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | grayscale 16 colors still looks neat: http://96.2.123.136/upload/11040807_gray_16.gif |
| 05:02:00 | sam686 | thats like only 8 shades of gray scale.. |
| 05:02:00 | sam686 | the other 8 of 16 colors is black.. |
| 05:02:00 | raptor | you can see the specific pallette? |
| 05:03:00 | sam686 | i have a very very old software called "MGI PhotoSuite SE" that can see all palettes of gif. |
| 05:03:00 | raptor | sweet! |
| 05:03:00 | sam686 | unfortunately, it does not support animated GIF, it only reads first frame. |
| 05:06:00 | sam686 | gray 4 bit, 8 colors, uses 532 KB, my original used 2804 KB.. |
| 05:06:00 | sam686 | grayscale is hard to see blue walls. |
| 05:07:00 | raptor | ah |
| 05:07:00 | raptor | true |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | well, i'm off to bed |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | good night |
| 05:09:00 | sam686 | ok night.. |
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| 08:29:00 | LordDVG | is there someone who want to play bitfighter? |
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| 23:13:00 | ZOOOOOOMBER | POW |
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