Timestamps are in GMT/BST.
| 00:08:00 | | Zooomba Quit (Quit: Page closed) |
| 00:32:00 | | Flynnn has joined |
| 00:43:00 | | karamazovapy has joined |
| 01:30:00 | | karamazovapy Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds) |
| 01:57:00 | | Flynnn Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) |
| 03:29:00 | | raptor has joined |
| 03:29:00 | | ChanServ sets mode +o raptor |
| 03:42:00 | raptor | sam686: did your server move? |
| 03:43:00 | sam686 | yes.. seems to be better. |
| 03:43:00 | raptor | what was wrong before? |
| 03:44:00 | sam686 | before, my server was running off my computer, but that eats some of my CPU, and can sometimes lag when i am downloading or uploading something heavy.. |
| 03:45:00 | sam686 | players seems to equally like my server, even when moved.. |
| 03:46:00 | sam686 | note that bot zone generating seg fault is only on server 96.44.134.183, does not seem to occur on other server.. |
| 03:47:00 | raptor | yeah, i think it has to do with the version of gcc used |
| 03:47:00 | sam686 | http:// 208.107.52.15 is my computer IP address.. |
| 03:48:00 | sam686 | could try building with -O1 instead of -O2 and see if the error is still there, because debug build don't seg fault.. |
| 03:49:00 | raptor | yeah, i'll try that... |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | that server is super slow... |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | latent, at least |
| 03:50:00 | sam686 | my computer is about 4 slower then the server... |
| 03:54:00 | raptor | ok started a compile... |
| 03:55:00 | raptor | are you planning on merging your random level code into 016? |
| 03:55:00 | sam686 | probably yes.. |
| 03:56:00 | raptor | it's been almost 500 revisions since last release.. |
| 03:56:00 | raptor | more than 500 |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | 531 |
| 03:58:00 | raptor | I think issue 115 is very important: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=115 |
| 03:58:00 | raptor | but i'm not sure how to start it... |
| 03:58:00 | sam686 | just do cd exe |
| 03:58:00 | sam686 | then ./bitfighterd |
| 03:59:00 | sam686 | then maybe ctrl+z and bg then to keep it running adter quitting ssh, disown |
| 03:59:00 | sam686 | or, you could gdb |
| 03:59:00 | raptor | ok, started server |
| 03:59:00 | sam686 | good, i see it.. |
| 04:00:00 | sam686 | crash? |
| 04:00:00 | raptor | y |
| 04:00:00 | raptor | same place, too |
| 04:00:00 | sam686 | the problem is bot zone generating loading cp_badlands |
| 04:00:00 | sam686 | try O0 instead of O2? if there is such a thing as -O0 |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | yes, there is Os and O0 |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | i think O0 is the same as nothing |
| 04:01:00 | sam686 | i wonder what bug does gcc have with optimizing? |
| 04:02:00 | raptor | i don't think it is a gcc bug necessarily |
| 04:04:00 | sam686 | can try searching: http://www.google.com/search?q=gcc+floating+point+inaccurate+with+optimization+bug |
| 04:06:00 | raptor | i am going ot compile with -frounding-math |
| 04:09:00 | sam686 | since triangle.c only have a floating point problem, maybe extra compile options things only needed for triangle.c |
| 04:09:00 | raptor | yes, but I don't want to splice up the Makefile for that one piece if i can help it.. |
| 04:10:00 | raptor | ok ready to test? |
| 04:11:00 | sam686 | ok |
| 04:11:00 | raptor | started |
| 04:11:00 | sam686 | ok, it died again.. |
| 04:11:00 | raptor | segfault |
| 04:11:00 | raptor | ok, i'm going to try with just triangle.c without -O2 |
| 04:12:00 | raptor | ok server up |
| 04:13:00 | raptor | no crash? |
| 04:14:00 | sam686 | i don't see any crash.. |
| 04:14:00 | sam686 | seems to be working now |
| 04:14:00 | raptor | ok fine - i'll adjust the Makefile... |
| 04:14:00 | raptor | i don't know what to do in windows... |
| 04:16:00 | sam686 | it doesn't happen in windows, unless compiled with fast floating point model.. |
| 04:17:00 | sam686 | even if i use fast floating point model then i can simply use #pragma float_control( precise, on ) in triangles.c |
| 04:41:00 | sam686 | in triangles.c, can try #define REAL long double instead of what it was defined, and see if the error is gone.. |
| 04:41:00 | raptor | what line? |
| 04:42:00 | sam686 | line 218 |
| 04:42:00 | raptor | how did you come to this conclusion? |
| 04:42:00 | sam686 | it might be the floating point being too inaccurate.. |
| 04:43:00 | sam686 | using long double means the compile usually will never need to convert and round the x86 80-bit floating point to slammer memory.. |
| 04:45:00 | sam686 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_double - x86 have always supported 80-bot floating point internally.. |
| 04:45:00 | | koda Quit (Quit: koda) |
| 04:46:00 | raptor | ok started server again... |
| 04:47:00 | raptor | segfault |
| 04:47:00 | sam686 | guess that didn't fix the problem.. |
| 04:48:00 | raptor | try now |
| 04:49:00 | sam686 | it segfault? |
| 04:49:00 | raptor | yeah, rats |
| 04:49:00 | raptor | i found a gcc option on that system that was different from mine, and i was hoping that turning it off would solve it... |
| 04:51:00 | raptor | i have an idea... |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | line 211 kept us from reaching double precision |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | so we are using float |
| 04:52:00 | sam686 | what file in line 211? |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | triangle.c |
| 04:54:00 | sam686 | could just command out #define SINGLE to give Double a try... |
| 04:54:00 | raptor | that's what i'm doing |
| 04:54:00 | sam686 | but, when i try double, i get bot zone generation failure.. |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | yeah, i get a segfault with it... |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | rats |
| 05:03:00 | raptor | i think ultimately we should use poly2tri... |
| 05:03:00 | raptor | but i'm almost done with the Makefile adjustment for triangle |
| 05:06:00 | sam686 | i see, if removing #define SINGLE in triangles.c, then also must remove #define SINGLE from triangles.h |
| 05:06:00 | raptor | ah... maybe that was my problem... |
| 05:06:00 | raptor | let me try that, too |
| 05:07:00 | raptor | ah good, no segfault |
| 05:08:00 | sam686 | why do we even need #define SINGLE and #define REAL double stuff in triangle.c when it is already in triangle.h? i would remove #define REAL double from triangle.c |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | somehow it's not showing up in server list anymore... |
| 05:09:00 | raptor | /connect doesn't work either |
| 05:09:00 | sam686 | maybe it died? |
| 05:10:00 | raptor | i just restarted it |
| 05:10:00 | raptor | like the IP dissappeared |
| 05:11:00 | sam686 | did it freeze trying to generate bot zones? |
| 05:11:00 | raptor | ok, still segfaults |
| 05:11:00 | raptor | yes |
| 05:11:00 | raptor | that is what happened :( |
| 05:21:00 | sam686 | though, i get compile errors when i change REAL to double in GeomUtils.cpp |
| 05:21:00 | sam686 | when changing REAL to double in triamgle.h |
| 05:21:00 | raptor | yeah, that isn't the solution |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | i think the proper solution is to just use integer math and upscare the points, like what clipper requires |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | upscale |
| 05:23:00 | raptor | ok pushed the Makefile hack |
| 05:28:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 3e017dfddbd2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Disable gcc optimizations for Triangle. Seems to fix rare crash with generating zones on some levels with some versions of gcc. Seems to be floating point related. Maybe we need to try poly2tri again? |
| 05:41:00 | raptor | well good night.. |
| 05:42:00 | | raptor Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 06:43:00 | | watusimoto has joined |
| 07:48:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit e3498491932a | Author: sam8641 | Log: triangle now use double, seems to fix most triangle errors |
| 08:02:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 08:13:00 | | watusimoto Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds) |
| 12:57:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 13:42:00 | | raptor has joined |
| 13:42:00 | | ChanServ sets mode +o raptor |
| 14:06:00 | raptor | hi sam686, your server is down... |
| 14:44:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 0f7ff2bf7efb | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix crash if no music files are found |
| 15:14:00 | | ZoomberImac has joined |
| 15:14:00 | | ChanServ sets mode +v ZoomberImac |
| 15:15:00 | raptor | sam686: do you think I can revert my Makefiel changes? it looks like triangle is working now on cp_badlands with your latest commit |
| 15:16:00 | ZoomberImac | lol sam left his test server up on 96 server |
| 15:16:00 | raptor | that was my fault |
| 15:16:00 | raptor | i was trying to crash it... |
| 15:16:00 | raptor | ok it's shut down |
| 15:18:00 | ZoomberImac | lol its ok |
| 15:18:00 | ZoomberImac | i dont mind |
| 15:22:00 | ZoomberImac | looks like my server must have just crashed recently |
| 15:25:00 | ZoomberImac | raptor: expect both sam and my server up in 10 or less minutes |
| 15:25:00 | raptor | ok |
| 15:49:00 | raptor | gibebd is back |
| 15:49:00 | raptor | gibbed |
| 15:49:00 | raptor | but not Bitfighter sam686 |
| 15:58:00 | ZoomberImac | hmm |
| 15:58:00 | ZoomberImac | i must have made a mistake in the cron script |
| 15:58:00 | ZoomberImac | i made one for sam but didnt really ever test it |
| 16:26:00 | | karamazovapy has joined |
| 16:47:00 | ZoomberImac | hi karamazovapy |
| 16:47:00 | karamazovapy | hi ZoomberImac |
| 16:50:00 | | ZoomberImac is now known as Im |
| 16:51:00 | | Im is now known as ZisTotallyBillyD |
| 16:51:00 | | ZisTotallyBillyD is now known as billyDeewilliams |
| 16:58:00 | billyDeewilliams | hey karamazovapy, do you still have that "welcome to kserv, the level chagne password is newlev" map? |
| 16:58:00 | billyDeewilliams | i'm stuck on how you get those cursive barrier letters |
| 16:59:00 | billyDeewilliams | are you actually using forumlas? |
| 17:00:00 | | karamazovapy Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer) |
| 17:00:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 17:00:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Changing host) |
| 17:00:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 17:01:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 17:02:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 17:02:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Changing host) |
| 17:02:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 17:35:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 17:38:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 17:38:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Changing host) |
| 17:38:00 | | LordDVG has joined |
| 18:12:00 | billyDeewilliams | raptor: you around? |
| 18:12:00 | raptor | y |
| 18:12:00 | billyDeewilliams | ***ROBOT ERROR*** in robots/timer.bot ::: Error loading file: robots/timer.bot:21: unfinished string near '" '. Shutting robot down. |
| 18:12:00 | raptor | what was your command? and on what server? |
| 18:13:00 | billyDeewilliams | slash addbot 0 timer |
| 18:13:00 | billyDeewilliams | i think its related to just "timer.bot" |
| 18:14:00 | billyDeewilliams | all the other bots work fine |
| 18:14:00 | raptor | what server? |
| 18:14:00 | billyDeewilliams | i made a clone "user levels" server |
| 18:14:00 | billyDeewilliams | i need to test the time ticks of it |
| 18:14:00 | raptor | it could be that timer isn't on user levels |
| 18:15:00 | billyDeewilliams | i made a clone of the server, so there are two user levels servers on |
| 18:15:00 | billyDeewilliams | ok, i may have found the problem |
| 18:15:00 | billyDeewilliams | aaah ok |
| 18:16:00 | billyDeewilliams | its a bug when using nano editor |
| 18:16:00 | billyDeewilliams | breaks lines when they are too long for your comamnd window |
| 18:16:00 | billyDeewilliams | so, someone used nano on the timer bot, and one of its lines got seperated |
| 18:16:00 | billyDeewilliams | so now, it works |
| 18:17:00 | raptor | you can turn that off in nano |
| 18:17:00 | raptor | might be a commandline option |
| 18:19:00 | billyDeewilliams | ah, ok |
| 18:19:00 | billyDeewilliams | thanks |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | [SavedServerPasswords] doesn't work for server names starting with ; |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | i see lots of ; 3= |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | ; 3= |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | ; 3= |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | ; 3= |
| 18:46:00 | raptor | hi sam686 |
| 18:49:00 | sam686 | the bot zone triangle.c works much better in double type, doesn't error with optimization, and doesn't error with fast floating point model, like it did with single type.. |
| 18:49:00 | sam686 | i will go, will be back in 2 hours.. |
| 18:49:00 | raptor | yes, i've been testing |
| 18:49:00 | raptor | do you think that i can revert my Makefile change? |
| 18:50:00 | sam686 | yes, if you want to.. |
| 18:50:00 | raptor | ok |
| 18:50:00 | raptor | see you later |
| 18:54:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit cc2206bdb86a | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Revert Makefile hack for compiling Triangle without optimizations since sam found a better solution |
| 20:30:00 | | billyDeewilliams Quit (Quit: billyDeewilliams) |
| 22:02:00 | | LordDVG Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 22:04:00 | | raptor Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 22:49:00 | | Flynnn has joined |
| 23:27:00 | | raptor has joined |
| 23:27:00 | | ChanServ sets mode +o raptor |
| 23:52:00 | | Flynnn Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep) |