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| 00:49:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 921858985353 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: BUGFIX: When multiple walls are selected, all should have their width changed when + or - are pressed |
| 00:49:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 407fa091fece | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Elimintate instance of unfixed drawAngleString |
| 00:49:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 51aa2f605061 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Pushing fixes upstream |
| 00:49:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 619b1b3f7fc2 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Get rid of the _fixed suffix for fixed text renderers, more upstream pushing of coord fixes |
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| 04:45:00 | Zoomber | hey karamazovapy, you on? |
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| 05:48:00 | Zoomber | oh well, looks like my server is down from fehosting (96 one) |
| 05:49:00 | Zoomber | sam686 , if you get this, it seems like fehosting may be dying, but i'm not total sure. The 74 server doesnt seem to have the crashy bugs it had a month ago when "bitfighter sam686" was hosted there. |
| 07:17:00 | Zoomber | sam686, i can also move your server to my personal server (216.231.134.232) if you dont want to use the 74 one anymroe |
| 07:17:00 | Zoomber | gotta go for the night anyways |
| 07:18:00 | Zoomber | later |
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| 16:19:00 | raptor | good morning! |
| 16:19:00 | raptor | hello! |
| 16:19:00 | raptor | hi! |
| 16:19:00 | raptor | howdy! |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | Do I dare look at the commit or irc logs? |
| 16:27:00 | raptor | so far irc logs look like days of zoomber trying to say hi to someone... |
| 16:40:00 | raptor | oooo... curve-based level contest... hmmm |
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| 18:28:00 | BlackBird | hello |
| 18:28:00 | raptor | hi |
| 18:30:00 | BlackBird | raptor |
| 18:30:00 | raptor | BlackBird: |
| 18:30:00 | raptor | I just got back from a break |
| 18:30:00 | raptor | I have no idea what has happened in the bitfighter world for a week |
| 18:31:00 | BlackBird | lol |
| 18:31:00 | BlackBird | not much has really happend |
| 18:42:00 | BlackBird | http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/unisex/itdepartment/dac0/ for the developer on your Christmas list. |
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| 20:15:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: Watusimoto, i just found 'feed settings' in the phpbb admin control panel |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | i didn't know that we had feeds integrated |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | feeds are disabled, though, from not having any forums selected in the module |
| 20:21:00 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 20:21:00 | Watusimoto | welcome back |
| 20:21:00 | raptor | hi |
| 20:21:00 | raptor | thanks |
| 20:21:00 | Watusimoto | I didn't know we had feeds either |
| 20:22:00 | raptor | should I turn them on for specific forums? |
| 20:22:00 | Watusimoto | dutr |
| 20:22:00 | Watusimoto | sure |
| 20:22:00 | Watusimoto | or maybe just for off-topic? |
| 20:22:00 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 20:22:00 | raptor | ha! |
| 20:25:00 | raptor | i could totally hook into these feeds and pipe them to this channel, if wanted... |
| 20:30:00 | raptor | ok, i enabled some feeds |
| 20:30:00 | raptor | except i don't see where they are... |
| 20:31:00 | sam686 | parts of bitfighter forum might not work right, as "View active topics" never views anything in "off topic" and search doesn't search for "off-topic". Even "advanced search" fails to list "off-topic" in a "search in forums" |
| 20:32:00 | sam686 | try search for "Boredom" and you will see what it says, there is actually a "Boredom" word in off-topic. |
| 20:40:00 | sam686 | or, maybe there is a better way to search in off-topic, like this. http://208.107.52.15/sphider1.3.5/search.php?query=Boredom&search=1 |
| 20:40:00 | raptor | is there a difference for when you logged in or not? |
| 20:41:00 | sam686 | there is no difference when logged in or not, except if something is not viewable when not logged in.. |
| 20:41:00 | sam686 | but still makes "off-topic" not searchable |
| 20:42:00 | raptor | so do we want off-topic searchable? |
| 20:43:00 | sam686 | maybe, that can avoid duplicate topics in off-topic because it wasn't listed in search... |
| 20:44:00 | raptor | karamazovapy or Watusimoto, was there a reason that 'off-topic' search indexing is off? |
| 20:45:00 | Watusimoto | I did not (intentionally) turn it off |
| 20:45:00 | raptor | would you think it is ok to turn it back on? |
| 20:45:00 | raptor | or just 'on' |
| 20:45:00 | Watusimoto | k might have done so when we were trying to figure out if there were a way so that I would never have to see messages there |
| 20:45:00 | Watusimoto | sure |
| 20:46:00 | Watusimoto | I was opposed to an off-topic forum, but I relented |
| 20:47:00 | raptor | i just found this: http://bitfighter.org/forums/feed.php |
| 20:49:00 | sam686 | another problem with search, all words are too common words. http://bitfighter.org/forums/search.php?keywords=big+bitfighter+battle+server+game+ship+use+shield+level |
| 20:49:00 | raptor | try searching for off-topic, now, sam686 |
| 20:49:00 | sam686 | mine is ok for me. http://208.107.52.15/sphider1.3.5/search.php?query=big+bitfighter+battle+server+game+ship+use+shield+level&search=1 |
| 20:50:00 | sam686 | searching for "Boredom" finds nothing in phpbb |
| 20:51:00 | raptor | ok try now |
| 20:52:00 | sam686 | it now shows "off-topic" in advanced search, but still won't find any "Boredom" |
| 20:54:00 | raptor | ok, so that's another problem, them |
| 20:55:00 | sam686 | find anything in off-topic not working http://bitfighter.org/forums/search.php?st=999&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&search_id=active_topics&fid%5B%5D=11 |
| 20:56:00 | sam686 | replacing 9 to 11 at end of link will search everything in metaForum http://bitfighter.org/forums/search.php?st=999&sk=t&sd=d&sr=topics&search_id=active_topics&fid%5B%5D=11 |
| 20:56:00 | raptor | well it's probably because it was never indexed... |
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| 21:00:00 | sam686 | i bet the spiders/Robots "Last Visit" date was all screwed up by me.. |
| 21:03:00 | raptor | how about adding all the forums in the development section to BFLogBot? |
| 21:03:00 | raptor | as atom feeds, i mean |
| 21:04:00 | sam686 | not sure, as I never yet used any atom feeds.. |
| 21:08:00 | sam686 | possible in bflogbot, but with a way to tell a bflogbot to tell it to turn off (or back on) that feed.. |
| 21:10:00 | raptor | yes, i built that in... |
| 21:11:00 | raptor | or even, would it be useful to add in the issues list from google code? |
| 21:13:00 | sam686 | not sure is that will be worth the effort, as we usually don't need to look at submitted issue right away.. |
| 21:41:00 | karamazovapy | I honestly don't remember, but I may have removed Off-Topic from indexing because it's embarrassing and not the kind of content we want to represent us in public. |
| 21:50:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: I think I agree... |
| 21:50:00 | raptor | sam686: do we really need to index off-topic? |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | in fact, i think It'd be good to remove from the feeds, too... |
| 21:53:00 | raptor | yeah, i don't think i want off-topic in search results... |
| 22:02:00 | sam686 | not sure, as "advanced search" seems kind of dumb not being able to see and select off-topic in advanced search, search in forums. |
| 22:04:00 | sam686 | could make it not search off-topic by default, but at least make an option in advanced search to search in "off-topic" |
| 22:04:00 | raptor | that's what i'm looking for... |
| 22:06:00 | raptor | i'm not finding how to separate them... |
| 22:27:00 | sam686 | Does this like gave you an error? http://bitfighter.org/forums/search.php?keywords=client+%7C+prizes+%7C+result&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search |
| 22:27:00 | raptor | yes |
| 22:28:00 | raptor | remove the |+ |
| 22:28:00 | sam686 | all i did is search for client | prices | result as advanced search says " Put a list of words separated by | into brackets if only one of the words must be found." |
| 22:29:00 | raptor | yeah, looks like it tokenized the pipes |
| 22:29:00 | sam686 | might be some search bug.. |
| 22:29:00 | raptor | and that kills it |
| 22:29:00 | raptor | well, we are 3 phpbb versions behind... |
| 22:30:00 | sam686 | and then i sometimes get a "Error 139 (net::ERR_TEMPORARILY_THROTTLED): Requests to the server have been temporarily throttled." |
| 22:31:00 | raptor | it'll work in the normal search... |
| 22:31:00 | sam686 | maybe such throttle is something with chrome itself... chrome://net-internals/#httpThrottling |
| 22:31:00 | raptor | because the normal search does a POST, whereas advanced does a GET |
| 22:31:00 | sam686 | oops, i guess you can't see that page.. |
| 22:31:00 | raptor | never had the throttle problem |
| 22:32:00 | sam686 | ok, i see a chrome option, Throttle HTTP requests if the server has been overloaded or encountered an error. |
| 22:33:00 | sam686 | it must be chrome doing the throttleing stuff, as it got an error from server and tries to prevent connecting to it for a while.. |
| 22:39:00 | sam686 | oh, i see, it was suppose to be no spaces for |. like this: client|prizes|result |
| 22:39:00 | raptor | yeah, but it still should kill the search like that... |
| 22:39:00 | raptor | *shouldn't |
| 22:39:00 | sam686 | this works http://bitfighter.org/forums/search.php?keywords=client%7Cprizes%7Cresult&terms=all&author=&sc=1&sf=all&sr=posts&sk=t&sd=d&st=0&ch=300&t=0&submit=Search |
| 22:40:00 | sam686 | but but putting spaces kills it... |
| 22:41:00 | sam686 | that bug doesn't seem to happen to my near empty phpbb on my computer.. |
| 22:41:00 | raptor | we are 3 version behind |
| 22:42:00 | sam686 | my version is at 3.0.7-PL1 |
| 22:42:00 | sam686 | and, MySQL 5.1.50-community |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | you are two versions behind :) |
| 22:43:00 | sam686 | so it looks like my version either have a version with a fix, or my forum is not big enough to trigger the bug.. |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | haha, could be |
| 22:52:00 | sam686 | found an easy way to see changes between some of latest version. http://208.107.52.15/forum/docs/CHANGELOG.html |
| 22:52:00 | sam686 | its also here but a little bit older. http://bitfighter.org/forums/docs/CHANGELOG.html |
| 22:52:00 | raptor | cool |
| 22:55:00 | sam686 | each new version seem to have a bunch of fix.. |
| 22:56:00 | sam686 | it looks like there was some fix to the search in 3.0.6, i think.. |
| 22:57:00 | raptor | yeah, i think Watusimoto will have to move bitfighter.org to a non-shared database and such before we can collectively make changes to the site when needed |
| 22:58:00 | sam686 | yes, maybe to avoid such unexpected php update (and maybe others) that seem to just happen by itself... |
| 22:58:00 | raptor | yep |
| 23:00:00 | Watusimoto | all we need is a plan! |
| 23:01:00 | Watusimoto | I'd be delighted to share the passwords! |
| 23:03:00 | sam686 | with vps and dedicated servers, we could have owr own login / passwords, such as me using "sam686" username in some of zoomber's vps server.. |
| 23:03:00 | raptor | I'm very good at moving systems... I'd just need a system to move to :) |
| 23:03:00 | raptor | oh, and focus... i'm still thinking like i'm on vacation |
| 23:05:00 | Watusimoto | so vps or standard server? |
| 23:05:00 | raptor | I think uptime is the most important |
| 23:06:00 | sam686 | not sure, dedicated server is a little more expensive, but have a lot of RAM and allows swap.. |
| 23:06:00 | Watusimoto | that was the next question -- do we need much ram? |
| 23:06:00 | Watusimoto | I think not really |
| 23:06:00 | raptor | not really - unless we are going to use it for compiling :) |
| 23:06:00 | sam686 | what is your "uptime" of your vps server? |
| 23:07:00 | Watusimoto | you mean the results of the uptime cmd? |
| 23:08:00 | Watusimoto | 15:08:09 up 36 days, 11:01, 1 user, load average: 0.16, 0.04, 0.01 |
| 23:08:00 | Watusimoto | my current vps is basically unused now. I almost canceled it this past month |
| 23:09:00 | sam686 | zoomber servers is 38 days, 9 days, and the third server (zoomber) is currently down.. |
| 23:10:00 | sam686 | however, that 38 days was the same server that used to frequently go down a lot about 2 or 3 months ago.. |
| 23:11:00 | raptor | that vps run BFLogBot! |
| 23:11:00 | raptor | :) |
| 23:12:00 | sam686 | i guess waatusimoto server seem to stay up a lot, except the one time problem forcing ip address to change.. |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | would this be enough? |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | 384MB guaranteed/768MB burstable memory |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | 15GB storage |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | 250GB/month data transfer on 100Mbps |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | OpenVZ/SolusVM |
| 23:16:00 | raptor | i think so |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | we run wiki, forums, master server |
| 23:16:00 | raptor | would you have root access? |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | of course |
| 23:16:00 | Watusimoto | unless you think I shouldn't |
| 23:17:00 | raptor | sweet! |
| 23:17:00 | raptor | must have root! |
| 23:17:00 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 23:17:00 | Watusimoto | it's a vps |
| 23:17:00 | sam686 | nearly all vps / dedicated have root, zoomber's vps all have root access.. |
| 23:17:00 | raptor | i am power hungry when it comes to servers... |
| 23:17:00 | Watusimoto | cheap, and seems reliable |
| 23:17:00 | sam686 | its the shared hosting that don't let you have root access.. |
| 23:17:00 | Watusimoto | I could buy that one, and drop my current one |
| 23:18:00 | Watusimoto | which we don't use and is a pita to keep paid up (have to do paypal manually each month) |
| 23:18:00 | raptor | doesn't netcraft have a reliability index somewhere? |
| 23:18:00 | raptor | http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2011/11/01/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-october-2011.html |
| 23:20:00 | Watusimoto | https://billing.urpad.net/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0 |
| 23:20:00 | Watusimoto | it's really cheap |
| 23:20:00 | raptor | what about CPU stutter? |
| 23:21:00 | raptor | that's the problem with your current one |
| 23:21:00 | Watusimoto | is that a factor for the master? |
| 23:21:00 | sam686 | to avoid cpu shutter, look for a dedicated CPU in a vps |
| 23:21:00 | Watusimoto | only the game server |
| 23:21:00 | Watusimoto | and that's not what we're talking about |
| 23:21:00 | raptor | doesn't master relay arranged connection packets? |
| 23:21:00 | sam686 | but its mostly for game servers, it it might help with master server as well.. |
| 23:22:00 | Watusimoto | yes, but a tiny bit of stutter won't matter |
| 23:22:00 | Watusimoto | maybe a connection takes 10ms longer |
| 23:22:00 | raptor | that link is shared hosting |
| 23:23:00 | raptor | doesn't that mean no root? |
| 23:23:00 | sam686 | a small CPU shutter might make web pages take slightly longer to load too.. |
| 23:23:00 | Watusimoto | they ask for a root password |
| 23:23:00 | Watusimoto | I am pretty sure you get root |
| 23:24:00 | raptor | so maybe 'shared hsoting' means your own VM shared with others? |
| 23:24:00 | Watusimoto | it won't really work otherwise |
| 23:24:00 | Watusimoto | 5 vms on one cpu |
| 23:24:00 | Watusimoto | but you are lord on your own vm |
| 23:24:00 | raptor | ah ok |
| 23:24:00 | Watusimoto | and where do you see "shared" |
| 23:25:00 | raptor | you maynto have sent the right link.. |
| 23:25:00 | sam686 | i think they mean "Budget VPS" like this? https://billing.urpad.net/cart.php?gid=9 |
| 23:25:00 | raptor | ah |
| 23:26:00 | raptor | that makes sense |
| 23:26:00 | raptor | The basic one with 150 GB bandwidth may be too small |
| 23:26:00 | Watusimoto | the deal I sent is a "special offer" better specs that the budget machine you linked to, but cheaper |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | that link didn't work, then... |
| 23:27:00 | Watusimoto | https://billing.urpad.net/cart.php?a=confproduct&i=0 |
| 23:27:00 | Watusimoto | 250GB bandiwdth |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | yeah, just redirects to 'shared hosting' option |
| 23:27:00 | Watusimoto | odd |
| 23:27:00 | Watusimoto | not for me |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | youmay have a special cookie on your machine? |
| 23:28:00 | sam686 | 500 GB bandwidth is 3.3 times more bandwidth at the price of 1.75 times the cheapest one |
| 23:28:00 | Watusimoto | test IP: 69.55.132.68 |
| 23:28:00 | Watusimoto | I linked from here: |
| 23:28:00 | Watusimoto | http://www.lowendbox.com/page/2/ |
| 23:29:00 | Watusimoto | maybe cookie?? |
| 23:29:00 | Watusimoto | halfway down |
| 23:29:00 | raptor | https://billing.urpad.net/cart.php?a=add&pid=69 |
| 23:29:00 | raptor | that's the link |
| 23:30:00 | Watusimoto | maybe it is a cookie because I can click the link I sent first |
| 23:30:00 | Watusimoto | anyhow |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | please use centos 64bit |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | not debian or derivative (ubuntu) |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | please |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | please please |
| 23:31:00 | raptor | actually, i don't think 64 or 32 bit really mattes |
| 23:31:00 | raptor | matters |
| 23:31:00 | Watusimoto | I would probably go with centos |
| 23:32:00 | Watusimoto | though I'm using Mint at work now, and LOVING it |
| 23:32:00 | raptor | ah good - the new ubuntu |
| 23:32:00 | Watusimoto | much better than ubuntu |
| 23:32:00 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 23:32:00 | Watusimoto | the UI is excellent |
| 23:32:00 | Watusimoto | but not proposing that.... proposing centos |
| 23:33:00 | Watusimoto | because the UI here is irrelevant |
| 23:33:00 | raptor | but for a server, i'd always choose RHEL (or derivative like CentOS) or SUSE |
| 23:33:00 | Watusimoto | suse isn't an option |
| 23:33:00 | sam686 | 32-bit uses a little bit less RAM, but usually can't go more then 2 GB or 4 GB of RAM |
| 23:33:00 | Watusimoto | centos 32 bit |
| 23:33:00 | Watusimoto | we only get 384MB of ram |
| 23:34:00 | raptor | sounds good |
| 23:34:00 | Watusimoto | but burstable |
| 23:34:00 | sam686 | 64-bit CPU is mostly faster for 64-bit integers, otherwise not much speed difference.. |
| 23:34:00 | Watusimoto | ok, so we could have this machine |
| 23:34:00 | Watusimoto | I'm willing to buy it |
| 23:34:00 | Watusimoto | but |
| 23:34:00 | Watusimoto | we have no transition plan |
| 23:34:00 | sam686 | plus, 32-bit is often more stable as they have been around much longer then 64-bit |
| 23:35:00 | Watusimoto | we have to move everything at one go |
| 23:35:00 | raptor | we have to write automated scripts to move everything in one go... |
| 23:35:00 | Watusimoto | and I'm not sure if it will work, as the IP is still hardcoded in the app (I think) |
| 23:35:00 | Watusimoto | I'm not so worried about the doing, it's more how do we get the clients to find the new server |
| 23:35:00 | raptor | well if you get it, we can add the IP for 016 |
| 23:36:00 | Watusimoto | can we run two masters in parallel? |
| 23:36:00 | Watusimoto | one for 015, one for 016? |
| 23:36:00 | sam686 | ip address is hard coded in 015 and 015a, and as of latest google code, it is still hard coded.. |
| 23:36:00 | Watusimoto | I suppose we could |
| 23:36:00 | Watusimoto | the master will still work, even if forms and wiki are gone |
| 23:37:00 | Watusimoto | so I could keep that master going a while longer |
| 23:37:00 | Watusimoto | with new clients on new master with forms and wiki |
| 23:37:00 | Watusimoto | ok, that would work |
| 23:37:00 | raptor | i thought we could specify multiple masters |
| 23:37:00 | raptor | to be safe |
| 23:37:00 | sam686 | old master might not have (or have outdated) authentication usernames system |
| 23:38:00 | Watusimoto | we could leave old dbs in place |
| 23:38:00 | Watusimoto | no new signups |
| 23:38:00 | Watusimoto | but existing accounts still work on 015 |
| 23:38:00 | sam686 | yes, it can put multiple masters, but it will only connect to one, a problem if multiple master is up.. |
| 23:39:00 | Watusimoto | 015 client conntects to current master, 016 client connects to new master |
| 23:39:00 | sam686 | that will work... |
| 23:39:00 | Watusimoto | well, we can try |
| 23:39:00 | Watusimoto | the risk seems low |
| 23:39:00 | Watusimoto | we just need to do the forums transition at release time |
| 23:40:00 | Watusimoto | though we can do an unofficial copy earlier |
| 23:40:00 | Watusimoto | have all the software running, and copy the dbs at the last minute |
| 23:41:00 | Watusimoto | and then we can add a redirect on bitfighter.org to send it to the new ip |
| 23:41:00 | Watusimoto | I can even register bitfighter.net to the new machine |
| 23:41:00 | Watusimoto | now |
| 23:41:00 | Watusimoto | since no one uses it |
| 23:42:00 | Watusimoto | what the heck, should I do it? |
| 23:43:00 | raptor | I'd help with the move |
| 23:43:00 | raptor | and set up |
| 23:43:00 | Watusimoto | ok -- all I'm doing tonight is buying the vps |
| 23:43:00 | raptor | this is so far sound like a better plan than we've had yet |
| 23:43:00 | Watusimoto | we have some time to figure out why it won't work |
| 23:43:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd has joined |
| 23:43:00 | Watusimoto | before it's too late |
| 23:44:00 | Watusimoto | so how can I communicate the root pw to you? |
| 23:44:00 | Watusimoto | email? |
| 23:44:00 | Watusimoto | we could even use accounts and not run only as root! |
| 23:44:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | hey guys :-) sorry to be a pest but just wondering if you still on schedule for xmas release? |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | IM with OTR would be best |
| 23:45:00 | Watusimoto | otr? |
| 23:45:00 | Watusimoto | cln: not really, but there's still hope |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | off-the-record |
| 23:45:00 | Watusimoto | what's that? |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | basically public key encryption through the IM protocol |
| 23:46:00 | Watusimoto | tell you what -- I'll set up the acct now, using hte same root pw I use on my other vps -- you can communicate that to sam |
| 23:46:00 | Watusimoto | using otr |
| 23:46:00 | raptor | ok |
| 23:46:00 | Watusimoto | and you can change it to something you like better |
| 23:46:00 | sam686 | could make use of useradd / passwd and then add something to (i think) /etc/sudoer |
| 23:46:00 | Watusimoto | you can create me an acct, im me the pw, and I'll change it |
| 23:47:00 | raptor | ah sudo |
| 23:47:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Watusimoto: Ah okay, thanks. :-) |
| 23:47:00 | raptor | the great and annoying root action audit system |
| 23:47:00 | Watusimoto | cln: my list is still too long, but getting shorter |
| 23:47:00 | Watusimoto | cln: I've also started cutting features |
| 23:47:00 | Watusimoto | cln: my new thought is a 016, followed shortly by 016a |
| 23:48:00 | Watusimoto | cln: which will have features missing from 016 |
| 23:48:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Watusimoto: That's okay :-) gives me more time to test a little project I am working on :-). |
| 23:48:00 | Watusimoto | :-) |
| 23:48:00 | Watusimoto | ok, I'll sign up for the vps |
| 23:49:00 | Watusimoto | any final objections before I drop the $$? |
| 23:49:00 | raptor | nope |
| 23:49:00 | raptor | i'm willing to do the grunt work |
| 23:49:00 | Watusimoto | sam? |
| 23:50:00 | sam686 | maybe, fix and update wiki version at the same time, as i kind of figured that out a long time ago.. |
| 23:50:00 | Watusimoto | and what hostname should we use? |
| 23:50:00 | Watusimoto | I mean any reaons not to sign up... |
| 23:50:00 | raptor | wait, i should ask to be sure you make a purchase (because I always ask myself first): are your mental faculties up to par right now? |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | alas, yes. no alcohol for at leat 4 hours |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | sleepy |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | but not overly so |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | not angry |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | no CO leakes from my furnace |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | I think I'm ok |
| 23:51:00 | sam686 | i might think the host name can be the same as URL, bitfighter.org (or .net) for use with reverse DNS system.. |
| 23:51:00 | raptor | could you optimize a triple 'for' loop with a hashmap if you were required? |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | It says: |
| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | eg. server1(.yourdomain.com) |
| 23:52:00 | raptor | just kidding... |
| 23:52:00 | Watusimoto | domain is bitfighter.net (for the moment) |
| 23:52:00 | raptor | great |
| 23:52:00 | Watusimoto | so server1 would be... what? |
| 23:52:00 | raptor | can you have unlimited subdomains? |
| 23:52:00 | Watusimoto | master.bitfighter.net? |
| 23:52:00 | Watusimoto | i.e. master |
| 23:53:00 | Watusimoto | or soemthing creative like bitfightron |
| 23:53:00 | raptor | nonono |
| 23:53:00 | raptor | what about www? |
| 23:53:00 | sam686 | or it could be bitfighter(.org) ? |
| 23:53:00 | Watusimoto | you think that's what they mean?? |
| 23:53:00 | raptor | then we can use forums and blog |
| 23:53:00 | Watusimoto | can't be bitfighter.org until we move the master |
| 23:53:00 | Watusimoto | but then it will be |
| 23:53:00 | raptor | hmmm, i'm not sure what they mean... |
| 23:54:00 | sam686 | what ip address is it? i can ping and see what the reverse DNS says. |
| 23:55:00 | Watusimoto | http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1166575 |
| 23:55:00 | Watusimoto | don't know ip until after signup |
| 23:55:00 | Watusimoto | maybe I enter "bitfighter.net"? |
| 23:56:00 | raptor | yeah |
| 23:56:00 | raptor | oh! |
| 23:56:00 | raptor | is it for the whois lookup? |
| 23:56:00 | Watusimoto | the forum article suggests so |
| 23:57:00 | sam686 | windows "tracert <ip_address>" command will show the reverse DNS of an ip address. |
| 23:58:00 | Watusimoto | ok, I'll try bitfighter.net, and get support to change it if it's wrong |
| 23:58:00 | raptor | so just use ns1.bitfighter.net? |
| 23:58:00 | raptor | ns2 |
| 23:58:00 | raptor | for those... |
| 23:58:00 | raptor | ok |
| 23:59:00 | sam686 | your isp's reverse DNS is used when connecting to IRC too (except when using cloak "unafiliated") |