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| 00:00:00 | raptor | ok Watusimoto, scratch it from your list - i got to hear weather center live from sam's home |
| 00:01:00 | sam686 | ok, voice works.. |
| 00:01:00 | sam686 | though /shutdown 99999999 won't let me go more then about 20000 seconds.. |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | haha, yeah, i saw that |
| 00:01:00 | raptor | maybe it's because it is milliseconds? |
| 00:02:00 | sam686 | i guess it multiplies by 1000 to be milliseconds and overflows a 32 bit number |
| 00:02:00 | raptor | ah |
| 00:04:00 | sam686 | why you heard a TV channel is because my computer have a video capture card. |
| 00:04:00 | raptor | ah cool |
| 00:05:00 | sam686 | only except my capture card is analog only, doesn't capture sound but instead have a "cable audio out" to be plugged into "line in" of sound card. |
| 00:06:00 | raptor | interesting |
| 00:06:00 | sam686 | apart from cable in, my capture card has a composite in, though |
| 00:07:00 | raptor | i have one that is cable-only in, but it's old... |
| 00:07:00 | sam686 | so pretty much any video game console could be plugged into it, and i can record it if i want to. |
| 00:07:00 | raptor | mpeg2 codec only and i think PCI |
| 00:08:00 | raptor | neat |
| 00:08:00 | sam686 | my old capture card don't have any hardware encoders, but i can use a CPU eating video compressor. |
| 00:08:00 | raptor | oh wow! it's older than mine! |
| 00:09:00 | sam686 | mine is ATI TV Wonder VE |
| 00:09:00 | raptor | mines and old hauppauge hvr 150, i think |
| 00:10:00 | raptor | *an |
| 00:10:00 | sam686 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All-in-Wonder it says mine is December 2, 2002 |
| 00:13:00 | | karamazovapy doesn't use ctrl+a |
| 00:13:00 | raptor | Watusimoto: ^^ see? |
| 00:14:00 | karamazovapy | however, if we're going add auto-balance bots, it'd be cool if I could specify which bots get added in some kind of config |
| 00:17:00 | Watusimoto | it's gone |
| 00:17:00 | Watusimoto | I'm falling asleep |
| 00:18:00 | karamazovapy | also, if we use /autobots to enable auto balancing, I highly suggest we use /decepticons to disable it |
| 00:18:00 | raptor | hahahaha |
| 00:18:00 | karamazovapy | it's science |
| 00:18:00 | sam686 | it will likely be /autobots off or similar.. |
| 00:19:00 | karamazovapy | yeeeeah...but it should probably be /decepticons |
| 00:19:00 | sam686 | no one would know what that word is, that word is a stranger word to me.. |
| 00:20:00 | karamazovapy | that isn't my fault |
| 00:20:00 | karamazovapy | but you should probably report your parents to the police for child abuse |
| 00:20:00 | karamazovapy | if the statute of limitations isn't up |
| 00:20:00 | raptor | for not teaching him about transformers? |
| 00:20:00 | sam686 | you said it, it not going to be /some_word_that_don't_make_sense |
| 00:21:00 | karamazovapy | withholding transformers is a form of abuse |
| 00:21:00 | karamazovapy | cruel and unusual punishment, at least |
| 00:22:00 | raptor | why are there optical audio outputs on media devices, but not optical video? |
| 00:24:00 | sam686 | maybe it is too expensive to make an optical video transmitter? |
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| 00:25:00 | raptor | i'm just wondering why did they choose optical for audio |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | it's still just digital transmission |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | although optical would have much better range... |
| 00:26:00 | sam686 | optical video transmitter would need to have multi color lasers or some other way to push the limits of video bandwidth |
| 00:26:00 | karamazovapy | apparently optical video outputs do exist |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | it doesn't matter: it's digital |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | so video couldn't be different than audio except for higher bandwidth - which optical can handle |
| 00:26:00 | raptor | that's why we use them to cross the atlantic ocean |
| 00:27:00 | raptor | so maybe it's because of long distance sound systems? |
| 00:27:00 | sam686 | yes, it all depends on how expensive optical video transmitter and optical video receiver is. |
| 00:28:00 | sam686 | individual sound speakers need electrical power froom somewhere... |
| 00:28:00 | raptor | but if it's digital, than the transeivers are the same for any data transmission |
| 00:29:00 | raptor | well, nevermind - i'm just curious |
| 00:29:00 | raptor | back to bitfighter! |
| 00:29:00 | raptor | actually time to go home.. |
| 00:32:00 | karamazovapy | http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/archive/index.php/t-356987.html |
| 00:32:00 | raptor | ahh... it's the protocol |
| 00:33:00 | karamazovapy | although - http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/1011843/intel-swaps-copper-for-glass |
| 00:33:00 | raptor | interesting, so the use of plastic actually takes away the advantage of long distance audio... |
| 00:34:00 | raptor | yes, we use a lot of high grade optical at work for our internal network now |
| 00:35:00 | raptor | i guess the issue between audio/video has nothing to with the hardware and everything to do with software: i.e. the protocols |
| 00:35:00 | raptor | they just weren't developed for video over optics |
| 00:35:00 | karamazovapy | well...and the cost |
| 00:36:00 | raptor | high grade glass does cost more than copper for consumers right now |
| 00:36:00 | karamazovapy | especially for long cables |
| 00:38:00 | raptor | hahahaha - someone in that thread said the signal degrades in HDMI... |
| 00:38:00 | raptor | bwahahaha |
| 00:38:00 | raptor | and that a monster cable is worth it |
| 00:38:00 | karamazovapy | riiiight |
| 00:39:00 | raptor | it's funny because signal does not degrade in digital cables |
| 00:40:00 | raptor | ok, well gotta go home |
| 00:40:00 | raptor | laterz |
| 00:40:00 | karamazovapy | later |
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| 04:50:00 | raptor | hello |
| 04:59:00 | karamazovapy | I just went on a forums reign of terror |
| 04:59:00 | karamazovapy | deleting posts |
| 04:59:00 | karamazovapy | locking threads |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | oh good |
| 04:59:00 | karamazovapy | total bloodbath |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | i was hoping you would... |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | it's starting to get ridiculous |
| 05:00:00 | karamazovapy | yeah. maybe if I keep this up for 48 hours it'll calm down. |
| 05:00:00 | raptor | jsut curious - if you ban someone from the forums for a day, can they still authenticate in bitfighter? |
| 05:01:00 | karamazovapy | I believe so. banning doesn't prevent authentication, even to the forums. it just restricts access to content |
| 05:01:00 | karamazovapy | http://bitfighter.org/forums/mcp.php?i=144 |
| 05:02:00 | raptor | oh wow |
| 05:03:00 | raptor | good to see bobdaduck do a little moderating... |
| 05:04:00 | karamazovapy | still a foolish amount of activity over the past couple days |
| 05:05:00 | karamazovapy | aaaand...I just deleted Little_Apple's repost of the post I just deleted |
| 05:05:00 | raptor | hahaha |
| 05:06:00 | raptor | did botfighter really register as 'bitfighter'? |
| 05:06:00 | karamazovapy | yes. yes he did. |
| 05:06:00 | raptor | wow |
| 05:07:00 | karamazovapy | that was the first hint |
| 05:07:00 | karamazovapy | of what would come |
| 05:07:00 | raptor | yes, i say it was predictive move |
| 05:08:00 | karamazovapy | granted, I think we were partially to blame for not disallowing the name |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | i agree - any other names you can think of we should reserve? |
| 05:08:00 | karamazovapy | but it never even occurred to me that someone would call themselves Bitfighter |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | yeah, me neither |
| 05:08:00 | karamazovapy | Admin, Administrator, Moderator, Global Moderator, Mod, Developer |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | is s_bot reserved? |
| 05:09:00 | karamazovapy | I don't think so |
| 05:09:00 | raptor | (woudl that be a good one to reserve...?) |
| 05:09:00 | karamazovapy | I think someone already registered as ChumpChange |
| 05:09:00 | raptor | what |
| 05:09:00 | karamazovapy | ah - ChumpChangeOz |
| 05:10:00 | karamazovapy | I fully support any name disallowing you're interested in implementing |
| 05:10:00 | karamazovapy | but I don't feel like dealing with it at the moment |
| 05:10:00 | raptor | ok |
| 05:10:00 | raptor | i'm looking for the list... |
| 05:11:00 | karamazovapy | ACP>USERS AND GROUPS>Ban Usernames |
| 05:11:00 | raptor | found it - did you actually disallow bitfighter yet? |
| 05:11:00 | karamazovapy | or disallow |
| 05:11:00 | karamazovapy | only _k and ChumpChange are disallowed |
| 05:11:00 | raptor | ok, i'll extend the list |
| 05:11:00 | karamazovapy | I think ChumpChangeOz was ChumpChange initially |
| 05:12:00 | karamazovapy | one more delete for Little_Apple |
| 05:13:00 | raptor | you're kidding |
| 05:13:00 | karamazovapy | it was asking "Y u keep deleting my posts" |
| 05:14:00 | raptor | are user names case-insenstive when registering? |
| 05:16:00 | karamazovapy | here's a test... |
| 05:18:00 | karamazovapy | hmm...not sure if firefox is playing tricks on me or if case doesn't matter |
| 05:19:00 | raptor | ah ha! |
| 05:19:00 | karamazovapy | case insensitive. I can log in as KARAMAZOVAPY |
| 05:19:00 | raptor | i just tested |
| 05:19:00 | raptor | 'Raptor' cannot be registered |
| 05:19:00 | raptor | ok cool |
| 05:19:00 | karamazovapy | makes life easier |
| 05:19:00 | raptor | much easier |
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| 05:30:00 | raptor | now to a another filler level... |
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| 14:29:00 | raptor | oh yay a spam bot |
| 14:31:00 | raptor | haha, drspacebar went in and responded to all the bot posts |
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| 18:05:00 | raptor | i'm deleteing a topic! |
| 18:11:00 | raptor | i'm now reconsidering the usefulness of 'off-topic' |
| 18:11:00 | raptor | before i thought it was OK... |
| 18:12:00 | sam686 | what are you going to do, delete everything in off-topic? |
| 18:12:00 | raptor | naw... i just deleted one by botfighter that was attacking blackbird |
| 18:14:00 | sam686 | note that it is possible to attack people with PM, in game chat, and maybe a few other ways... |
| 18:15:00 | raptor | yes, however, the forums are the most public |
| 18:31:00 | raptor | what about auto-purging of old off-topic topics every few months or so? |
| 18:38:00 | sam686 | not sure, but what i do see is off-topic "post number" is catching up to "bitfighter features" |
| 18:39:00 | sam686 | another problem i sometimes see is people posting huge pictures, where i would rather see small picture, or a link to full size picture. |
| 18:42:00 | sam686 | there a small problem for me, where do i put my magnet.gif or any animated pictures to let everyone see it? |
| 18:43:00 | sam686 | i still have it on my comptuer.. |
| 18:43:00 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 18:44:00 | raptor | does that mean we need to allow larger attachments? |
| 18:45:00 | sam686 | not sure yet, as forum attachments don't really look as nice as linking with [img] |
| 18:46:00 | sam686 | also, attachments is mostly not viewable unless you are logged in, i think |
| 18:46:00 | raptor | yes |
| 18:55:00 | raptor | ok, i'm off for a while |
| 18:55:00 | raptor | later |
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| 22:20:00 | raptor | so i just realized something: the Team number in a level file is entirely dependent on the order of the Teams |
| 22:21:00 | raptor | in 015a at least.. |
| 22:21:00 | raptor | i think it's bad |
| 22:24:00 | sam686 | i think "Team |
| 22:24:00 | sam686 | i think that has been that way all the way back from ZAP days |
| 22:25:00 | sam686 | umm, not a very nice picture, is it? http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=674#p9108 |
| 22:26:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: should we do a temporary ban on botfighter? |
| 22:27:00 | raptor | he's borderline spamming random threads |
| 22:27:00 | raptor | he's borderline spamming by posting random garbage in various threads |
| 22:28:00 | sam686 | big post of useless pictures... |
| 22:30:00 | raptor | deleted the post |
| 22:30:00 | sam686 | this? http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=984#p9109 again, big post of useless pictures |
| 22:37:00 | raptor | see: this is what happens when I get involved: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=869&p=9110#p9110 |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | ok, locking the suicide/energy topic |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | now i'm off to read a good book! |
| 22:52:00 | Watusimoto | lovely |
| 22:53:00 | Watusimoto | I deleted the second big useless post |
| 22:54:00 | Watusimoto | I don't think botfighter needs a ban, just a pm telling him to knock it off. He probably just doesn't know any better. |
| 22:58:00 | sam686 | locking thread sometimes doesn't help. http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1081 |
| 23:08:00 | Watusimoto | sigh... deleted |
| 23:10:00 | raptor | hi |
| 23:12:00 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 23:12:00 | Watusimoto | what's your book? |
| 23:12:00 | raptor | the first harry potter book |
| 23:12:00 | Watusimoto | ah yes. We used the audio books of that series for long car trips |
| 23:12:00 | raptor | i was in the mood for a fun story |
| 23:13:00 | Watusimoto | I'm just finishing the girl who played with fire, 2nd in the series |
| 23:13:00 | Watusimoto | girl with dragon tattoo |
| 23:13:00 | Watusimoto | great read, bot exactly "fun" |
| 23:13:00 | Watusimoto | not |
| 23:16:00 | raptor | another personal attack: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?p=9129#p9129 |
| 23:16:00 | raptor | i don't know why but that bothers me most |
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| 23:18:00 | raptor | or - i have little patience for it |
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| 23:22:00 | Watusimoto | removed offending remark |
| 23:22:00 | Watusimoto | I'll write to him |
| 23:22:00 | raptor | ok |
| 23:26:00 | sam686 | sometimes, i can read, and maybe reply right after someone post, because I have some beeper that auto checks the forum for any changes and beep if it does change (including if someone make a new post or reply) |
| 23:27:00 | sam686 | forum seem to have quiet down for the past 3 minutes now |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | haha |
| 23:30:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit c486e0078f6b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Now have a mechanism for creating dummy scores for testing and improving the scoreboard... just define the token USE_DUMMY_PLAYER_SCORES |
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| 23:51:00 | Watusimoto | wrote to him |
| 23:52:00 | raptor | danke |
| 23:58:00 | Watusimoto | I just made an ill advised post to Blackbird' |
| 23:58:00 | raptor | uh oh |
| 23:59:00 | raptor | not politics!!! |