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IRC Log for 2012-03-03

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00:28:07 raptor ok back
00:33:04 BFLogBot - Commit 0d4c73c5b008 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Painfully reduce code duplication, experimental rendering change (feel free to further modify)
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01:01:04 raptor time to look at this commit...
01:13:35 raptor so you removed my full health bar feedback
01:19:36 raptor i guess it isn't needed as much since we can accurately detect panels in range and that need health
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14:21:38 raptor good morning
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15:36:51 raptor Watusimoto: what do we have left for 017?
16:56:17 Watusimoto the running buglist mostly
16:56:34 raptor haven't looked in a while..
16:57:11 raptor did you mean to make the panel stakes extend to the panels?
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16:58:53 Watusimoto mmmm probably not?
17:00:52 raptor ok, i change back
17:02:00 raptor so did we fulfill 'make core look good again' ?
17:06:39 BFLogBot - Commit d4daa6faaaee | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix rendering panel repair point
17:09:14 Watusimoto yes
17:09:22 Watusimoto back in a bit
17:09:42 raptor there is one anomaly i've noticed since you've consolidated the panel info
17:10:07 raptor when repairing, energy will sometimes be used with out the repair ray
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21:15:24 raptor hola hola
21:32:49 raptor someone brought up the idea of more level information that could be shown when looking throught the 'change level' list
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21:33:26 raptor they specifically wanted to know level creation date so they could see newer levels and maybe sort by 'newest'
22:10:32 Watusimoto hi
22:10:36 raptor hi
22:10:46 Watusimoto my fomer boss just offered me a 6 month contract for 250K
22:10:52 raptor !!
22:11:01 Watusimoto that's what I said
22:11:32 Watusimoto then he explained it to me, and I thought I could subcontract it to my wife
22:11:35 Watusimoto easy peasy
22:11:51 raptor what
22:12:09 raptor sounds fishy
22:12:20 Watusimoto no, totally legit
22:12:42 Watusimoto then I read the actual work description, and told him not to do the project at all
22:13:11 Watusimoto I've concluded I am the only person alive who really understands why the project as described is impossible
22:13:16 Watusimoto or nearly so
22:13:17 raptor ha!
22:13:56 Watusimoto so I'm writing him a letter with some ideas of how he can capitalize on the failure of another contractor to accomplish the task
22:14:06 raptor ha
22:14:08 raptor wow
22:14:13 Watusimoto too bad there will be no profit in it for me
22:15:21 raptor sad
22:17:03 Watusimoto ah well
22:35:41 Watusimoto so... back to reality.  does the problem with the cores still exist, and how can i experience it?
22:35:57 raptor yeah...  not sure what is causing it
22:36:04 raptor just damage a panel
22:36:45 raptor then heal it, you'll see the repair ray disappear and the health bar fill up but you'r energy will still drain for a 1/2 second
22:36:53 raptor *your
22:48:38 Watusimoto design question:
22:48:48 Watusimoto we need to display leaderboard in the game somehow
22:48:56 Watusimoto I'm thinking as a page off the main menu
22:48:57 raptor hmmm
22:49:07 Watusimoto sort of like a help screen
22:49:13 raptor 'highscores' menu on the main m enu?
22:49:17 raptor then with multiple pages
22:49:18 Watusimoto something like that
22:49:25 Watusimoto or just wiht one page for now
22:49:34 Watusimoto depending on what we want to show
22:49:42 Watusimoto I was thinking of the same data from the home page
22:49:49 Watusimoto 4 sets of 3 names
22:49:55 raptor sure
22:49:58 Watusimoto so here is the question
22:50:10 raptor althought i'd like to change to a materialized view somehow...
22:50:35 Watusimoto do we just have the master send 12 names and 12 scores, and have the client simply know what order things will be coming in? or...
22:51:50 Watusimoto or do we send 'category names' in addition, maybe something like "highest scores this week", "most plays this week",  etc., along with the names so we can change what stats are displayed wihtout releasing a new client and creating a new m2c method
22:52:11 Watusimoto basically, how hardocded should we make it?
22:52:17 raptor always less!
22:52:47 raptor i like the idea of the categories
22:52:48 Watusimoto well, the less hardocded it is, the more we need to do things like auto-calculate where to render things to look good
22:53:06 Watusimoto if we decide that there will always be 4 groups of 3, rendering becomes a lot less complex
22:53:10 raptor yeah but there would be reduced maintenance in the future
22:53:48 Watusimoto so you think we should develop  a scheme for displaying n groups of m players, with aribitrary group names?
22:54:11 raptor or
22:54:16 Watusimoto and laying them out somehow on the page, or distributing them across multiple pages?
22:54:34 raptor have a set m and n and overflow to another page
22:55:23 Watusimoto I guess I don't understand that
22:56:15 raptor so have say 4 columns, 3 rows per page
22:56:25 raptor each block will have a title and three players
22:56:31 raptor block per category
22:56:42 raptor any more than 12 categories will overflow to page 2
22:56:58 raptor those were just random numbers
22:57:13 raptor but jus tone idea
22:58:43 Watusimoto oh, I see
22:58:51 Watusimoto yes, that could work
22:59:06 Watusimoto with auto centering vertically or whatever
22:59:14 raptor yes
22:59:18 raptor or whatever
22:59:29 Watusimoto so we would always send the same number of players in each category?
22:59:44 raptor i don't know would we?
22:59:48 raptor 3
22:59:49 Watusimoto or would we want to send 2 names for one, 5 for another
22:59:58 raptor top 3 in any metric?
23:00:13 Watusimoto I was thinking of sending the same for all metrics, but perhaps having the master determine what that number is
23:00:20 Watusimoto so we could change from top 3 to top 5
23:00:27 raptor sounds good to me
23:00:30 Watusimoto but it would be top 5 for everything
23:00:37 Watusimoto that doesn't really make it more complex
23:00:55 raptor might have to shrink the text accordingly for each blcok
23:01:04 raptor clokb
23:01:06 raptor argh
23:01:07 raptor block
23:01:17 Watusimoto maybe
23:01:34 Watusimoto We have something similar with the unused team shuffle feature
23:01:44 raptor oh yeah, haha
23:01:48 raptor i forgot about that...
23:01:54 Watusimoto I wonder if any of that code could be leveraged
23:01:58 raptor that was never used in the last BBB, i don't think
23:02:09 Watusimoto no, good idea, forgotten feature
23:07:48 Watusimoto so we send a vector of strings (category names) , followed by a vector of strings (player names, scores)
23:08:16 raptor sur
23:08:17 raptor sure
23:08:27 Watusimoto then the client can simply divide the number of player names by the number of categories to get player names / category
23:08:50 Watusimoto and sending scores as strings lets us send ints or floats, depending on what makes sense for the record
23:09:21 Watusimoto then the client simply creates the right number of tables and where to display them
23:09:30 raptor yes
23:09:58 Watusimoto I started on a m2cSendLeaderBoard (or similar), but that may need to be redone
23:10:34 Watusimoto when you open the score menu, client will send c2mRequestLeaderboard, and master will respond
23:10:48 Watusimoto so every time you open the menu you get the updated values
23:11:01 raptor ok
23:11:16 Watusimoto yeah, that will work
23:11:32 Watusimoto won't give us 100% flexibility, but probably enough
23:12:07 raptor on master side i think there should be a cache of sorts for the query data, either with a materialized view (which I'm not sure you can do with mysql) or with a c++ cache that is updated by a thread
23:12:11 raptor every so often
23:13:43 Watusimoto mysql has no materialized view -- only db I know of that does is sqlserver
23:14:03 Watusimoto but people may want to check their scores after every game
23:14:03 raptor i don't know that one...  i work with oracle at work, they have it
23:14:20 raptor so a cache that is triggered by the end of a game?
23:14:26 Watusimoto sqlserver = microsoft
23:14:48 Watusimoto maybe cache is marked as stale, but not refreshed until someone actually requests it
23:14:53 raptor master accepts stats at the end of a game - why don't we trigger the cache update after it receives new stats
23:14:56 Watusimoto but yes, I think that makes sense
23:15:09 raptor then hold it until next game stats arrive
23:15:11 Watusimoto don't update cache until it is requested
23:15:28 Watusimoto just mark it as stale, and if someone requests, and cache is stale, refresh it
23:15:55 Watusimoto same strategy I used for panelgeometry
23:16:17 Watusimoto no sense querying if no one is asking for the data
23:16:30 raptor yes i see that...
23:16:33 raptor and i like that
23:16:35 raptor but
23:16:51 raptor i naturally think about load
23:16:58 raptor but that probably doesn't matter in our case
23:17:05 raptor because our community is so small
23:17:26 Watusimoto true
23:17:41 raptor so the cache would always be up to date in my scenario and allow for quicker response time
23:17:52 Watusimoto sure, ok
23:18:03 Watusimoto I think in practice it will be exactly the same
23:18:07 raptor yep, me too
23:18:27 Watusimoto if you code it we query every time; if I code it, we mark as stale :-)
23:18:47 raptor are you talking client or server side?
23:18:55 Watusimoto and if sam686 codes it, he'll use his own scheme!
23:18:57 raptor maybe our ideas aren't in conflict...
23:19:00 Watusimoto server
23:19:12 raptor i'm saying server side, the cache is only updated when a games stats arrive
23:19:19 Watusimoto understood
23:19:28 Watusimoto client is only updated when they open the menu
23:19:30 raptor then it sits and can handle as many requests as the clients want, without having to requery the DV
23:19:36 raptor DB
23:19:41 Watusimoto right
23:19:45 raptor ok
23:19:46 Watusimoto I was discussing the same thing
23:19:48 raptor we do understand each other
23:20:14 Watusimoto finally going to try to reproduce the core bug
23:20:21 Watusimoto you described many moons ago
23:20:22 raptor ok
23:20:41 Watusimoto I should at least get one thing done tonight
23:20:58 raptor the answer might be to force invalid panel info once a panel is healed all the way
23:21:10 Watusimoto I showed my kids how to use bittorrent today...
23:21:13 Watusimoto I may regret that
23:21:18 raptor ha!
23:21:30 raptor and y ou run windows?
23:21:45 raptor make sure they download no archives or executables
23:21:46 Watusimoto uyes, with microtorrent client
23:21:51 Watusimoto yes
23:22:00 raptor because you'll be in a lot of hurt fast  :)
23:22:18 Watusimoto I wanted to watch a nova show with them, but nova is blocked overseas
23:22:24 raptor lame
23:22:34 Watusimoto I help pay for $%^& nova shows, so I think I should be able to see them
23:23:01 Watusimoto but I tried out the mtorrent streaming functino; worked pretty well
23:23:50 raptor one day we humans will get distribution of an unlimited resource (digital audio/video) right...
23:29:19 Watusimoto how long until a thumbdrive can hold all published music?  then the distribution problem will be solved
23:29:44 raptor go sneakernet!
23:30:08 Watusimoto that's really the endgame
23:30:12 raptor yep
23:30:19 Watusimoto and it's coming
23:30:23 raptor oh yeah
23:30:26 Watusimoto 10 years?
23:30:28 raptor like a locomotive
23:30:36 raptor distribution is unlimited
23:30:40 raptor creation is not
23:30:51 raptor so how do creators get compensated?
23:31:00 Watusimoto concerts & merch
23:31:02 raptor problems problems...  and i have no solutions
23:31:21 raptor i can see that
23:31:36 Watusimoto people fundamentally create because they enjoy it
23:32:17 Watusimoto they do deserve to get paid
23:32:23 Watusimoto if they're good
23:32:28 raptor i agree
23:32:35 raptor we probably have too many artists right now..
23:32:36 Watusimoto but it just isn;t goinig to happen via music sales
23:32:47 Watusimoto that's just a fact
23:33:53 raptor need more engineers
23:33:57 raptor maybe researchers
23:34:08 raptor but definitely fewer artists
23:42:46 raptor did you dupe the Core bug?  (you have to keep holding down the module button after a panel looks healed all the way)
23:42:57 raptor if you do /settime 0, they stop rotating and it's easier

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00:28:07	raptor	ok back
00:33:04		BFLogBot - Commit 0d4c73c5b008 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Painfully reduce code duplication, experimental rendering change (feel free to further modify)
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01:01:04	raptor	time to look at this commit...
01:13:35	raptor	so you removed my full health bar feedback
01:19:36	raptor	i guess it isn't needed as much since we can accurately detect panels in range and that need health
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14:21:38	raptor	good morning
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15:36:51	raptor	Watusimoto: what do we have left for 017?
16:56:17	Watusimoto	the running buglist mostly
16:56:34	raptor	haven't looked in a while..
16:57:11	raptor	did you mean to make the panel stakes extend to the panels?
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16:58:53	Watusimoto	mmmm probably not?
17:00:52	raptor	ok, i change back
17:02:00	raptor	so did we fulfill 'make core look good again' ?
17:06:39		BFLogBot - Commit d4daa6faaaee \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Fix rendering panel repair point
17:09:14	Watusimoto	yes
17:09:22	Watusimoto	back in a bit
17:09:42	raptor	there is one anomaly i've noticed since you've consolidated the panel info
17:10:07	raptor	when repairing, energy will sometimes be used with out the repair ray
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21:15:24	raptor	hola hola
21:32:49	raptor	someone brought up the idea of more level information that could be shown when looking throught the 'change level' list
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21:33:26	raptor	they specifically wanted to know level creation date so they could see newer levels and maybe sort by 'newest'
22:10:32	Watusimoto	hi
22:10:36	raptor	hi
22:10:46	Watusimoto	my fomer boss just offered me a 6 month contract for 250K
22:10:52	raptor	!!
22:11:01	Watusimoto	that's what I said
22:11:32	Watusimoto	then he explained it to me, and I thought I could subcontract it to my wife
22:11:35	Watusimoto	easy peasy
22:11:51	raptor	what
22:12:09	raptor	sounds fishy
22:12:20	Watusimoto	no, totally legit
22:12:42	Watusimoto	then I read the actual work description, and told him not to do the project at all
22:13:11	Watusimoto	I've concluded I am the only person alive who really understands why the project as described is impossible
22:13:16	Watusimoto	or nearly so
22:13:17	raptor	ha!
22:13:56	Watusimoto	so I'm writing him a letter with some ideas of how he can capitalize on the failure of another contractor to accomplish the task
22:14:06	raptor	ha
22:14:08	raptor	wow
22:14:13	Watusimoto	too bad there will be no profit in it for me
22:15:21	raptor	sad
22:17:03	Watusimoto	ah well
22:35:41	Watusimoto	so... back to reality. does the problem with the cores still exist, and how can i experience it?
22:35:57	raptor	yeah... not sure what is causing it
22:36:04	raptor	just damage a panel
22:36:45	raptor	then heal it, you'll see the repair ray disappear and the health bar fill up but you'r energy will still drain for a 1/2 second
22:36:53	raptor	*your
22:48:38	Watusimoto	design question:
22:48:48	Watusimoto	we need to display leaderboard in the game somehow
22:48:56	Watusimoto	I'm thinking as a page off the main menu
22:48:57	raptor	hmmm
22:49:07	Watusimoto	sort of like a help screen
22:49:13	raptor	'highscores' menu on the main m enu?
22:49:17	raptor	then with multiple pages
22:49:18	Watusimoto	something like that
22:49:25	Watusimoto	or just wiht one page for now
22:49:34	Watusimoto	depending on what we want to show
22:49:42	Watusimoto	I was thinking of the same data from the home page
22:49:49	Watusimoto	4 sets of 3 names
22:49:55	raptor	sure
22:49:58	Watusimoto	so here is the question
22:50:10	raptor	althought i'd like to change to a materialized view somehow...
22:50:35	Watusimoto	do we just have the master send 12 names and 12 scores, and have the client simply know what order things will be coming in? or...
22:51:50	Watusimoto	or do we send 'category names' in addition, maybe something like "highest scores this week", "most plays this week", etc., along with the names so we can change what stats are displayed wihtout releasing a new client and creating a new m2c method
22:52:11	Watusimoto	basically, how hardocded should we make it?
22:52:17	raptor	always less!
22:52:47	raptor	i like the idea of the categories
22:52:48	Watusimoto	well, the less hardocded it is, the more we need to do things like auto-calculate where to render things to look good
22:53:06	Watusimoto	if we decide that there will always be 4 groups of 3, rendering becomes a lot less complex
22:53:10	raptor	yeah but there would be reduced maintenance in the future
22:53:48	Watusimoto	so you think we should develop a scheme for displaying n groups of m players, with aribitrary group names?
22:54:11	raptor	or
22:54:16	Watusimoto	and laying them out somehow on the page, or distributing them across multiple pages?
22:54:34	raptor	have a set m and n and overflow to another page
22:55:23	Watusimoto	I guess I don't understand that
22:56:15	raptor	so have say 4 columns, 3 rows per page
22:56:25	raptor	each block will have a title and three players
22:56:31	raptor	block per category
22:56:42	raptor	any more than 12 categories will overflow to page 2
22:56:58	raptor	those were just random numbers
22:57:13	raptor	but jus tone idea
22:58:43	Watusimoto	oh, I see
22:58:51	Watusimoto	yes, that could work
22:59:06	Watusimoto	with auto centering vertically or whatever
22:59:14	raptor	yes
22:59:18	raptor	or whatever
22:59:29	Watusimoto	so we would always send the same number of players in each category?
22:59:44	raptor	i don't know would we?
22:59:48	raptor	3
22:59:49	Watusimoto	or would we want to send 2 names for one, 5 for another
22:59:58	raptor	top 3 in any metric?
23:00:13	Watusimoto	I was thinking of sending the same for all metrics, but perhaps having the master determine what that number is
23:00:20	Watusimoto	so we could change from top 3 to top 5
23:00:27	raptor	sounds good to me
23:00:30	Watusimoto	but it would be top 5 for everything
23:00:37	Watusimoto	that doesn't really make it more complex
23:00:55	raptor	might have to shrink the text accordingly for each blcok
23:01:04	raptor	clokb
23:01:06	raptor	argh
23:01:07	raptor	block
23:01:17	Watusimoto	maybe
23:01:34	Watusimoto	We have something similar with the unused team shuffle feature
23:01:44	raptor	oh yeah, haha
23:01:48	raptor	i forgot about that...
23:01:54	Watusimoto	I wonder if any of that code could be leveraged
23:01:58	raptor	that was never used in the last BBB, i don't think
23:02:09	Watusimoto	no, good idea, forgotten feature
23:07:48	Watusimoto	so we send a vector of strings (category names) , followed by a vector of strings (player names, scores)
23:08:16	raptor	sur
23:08:17	raptor	sure
23:08:27	Watusimoto	then the client can simply divide the number of player names by the number of categories to get player names / category
23:08:50	Watusimoto	and sending scores as strings lets us send ints or floats, depending on what makes sense for the record
23:09:21	Watusimoto	then the client simply creates the right number of tables and where to display them
23:09:30	raptor	yes
23:09:58	Watusimoto	I started on a m2cSendLeaderBoard (or similar), but that may need to be redone
23:10:34	Watusimoto	when you open the score menu, client will send c2mRequestLeaderboard, and master will respond
23:10:48	Watusimoto	so every time you open the menu you get the updated values
23:11:01	raptor	ok
23:11:16	Watusimoto	yeah, that will work
23:11:32	Watusimoto	won't give us 100% flexibility, but probably enough
23:12:07	raptor	on master side i think there should be a cache of sorts for the query data, either with a materialized view (which I'm not sure you can do with mysql) or with a c++ cache that is updated by a thread
23:12:11	raptor	every so often
23:13:43	Watusimoto	mysql has no materialized view -- only db I know of that does is sqlserver
23:14:03	Watusimoto	but people may want to check their scores after every game
23:14:03	raptor	i don't know that one... i work with oracle at work, they have it
23:14:20	raptor	so a cache that is triggered by the end of a game?
23:14:26	Watusimoto	sqlserver = microsoft
23:14:48	Watusimoto	maybe cache is marked as stale, but not refreshed until someone actually requests it
23:14:53	raptor	master accepts stats at the end of a game - why don't we trigger the cache update after it receives new stats
23:14:56	Watusimoto	but yes, I think that makes sense
23:15:09	raptor	then hold it until next game stats arrive
23:15:11	Watusimoto	don't update cache until it is requested
23:15:28	Watusimoto	just mark it as stale, and if someone requests, and cache is stale, refresh it
23:15:55	Watusimoto	same strategy I used for panelgeometry
23:16:17	Watusimoto	no sense querying if no one is asking for the data
23:16:30	raptor	yes i see that...
23:16:33	raptor	and i like that
23:16:35	raptor	but
23:16:51	raptor	i naturally think about load
23:16:58	raptor	but that probably doesn't matter in our case
23:17:05	raptor	because our community is so small
23:17:26	Watusimoto	true
23:17:41	raptor	so the cache would always be up to date in my scenario and allow for quicker response time
23:17:52	Watusimoto	sure, ok
23:18:03	Watusimoto	I think in practice it will be exactly the same
23:18:07	raptor	yep, me too
23:18:27	Watusimoto	if you code it we query every time; if I code it, we mark as stale :-)
23:18:47	raptor	are you talking client or server side?
23:18:55	Watusimoto	and if sam686 codes it, he'll use his own scheme!
23:18:57	raptor	maybe our ideas aren't in conflict...
23:19:00	Watusimoto	server
23:19:12	raptor	i'm saying server side, the cache is only updated when a games stats arrive
23:19:19	Watusimoto	understood
23:19:28	Watusimoto	client is only updated when they open the menu
23:19:30	raptor	then it sits and can handle as many requests as the clients want, without having to requery the DV
23:19:36	raptor	DB
23:19:41	Watusimoto	right
23:19:45	raptor	ok
23:19:46	Watusimoto	I was discussing the same thing
23:19:48	raptor	we do understand each other
23:20:14	Watusimoto	finally going to try to reproduce the core bug
23:20:21	Watusimoto	you described many moons ago
23:20:22	raptor	ok
23:20:41	Watusimoto	I should at least get one thing done tonight
23:20:58	raptor	the answer might be to force invalid panel info once a panel is healed all the way
23:21:10	Watusimoto	I showed my kids how to use bittorrent today...
23:21:13	Watusimoto	I may regret that
23:21:18	raptor	ha!
23:21:30	raptor	and y ou run windows?
23:21:45	raptor	make sure they download no archives or executables
23:21:46	Watusimoto	uyes, with microtorrent client
23:21:51	Watusimoto	yes
23:22:00	raptor	because you'll be in a lot of hurt fast :)
23:22:18	Watusimoto	I wanted to watch a nova show with them, but nova is blocked overseas
23:22:24	raptor	lame
23:22:34	Watusimoto	I help pay for $%^& nova shows, so I think I should be able to see them
23:23:01	Watusimoto	but I tried out the mtorrent streaming functino; worked pretty well
23:23:50	raptor	one day we humans will get distribution of an unlimited resource (digital audio/video) right...
23:29:19	Watusimoto	how long until a thumbdrive can hold all published music? then the distribution problem will be solved
23:29:44	raptor	go sneakernet!
23:30:08	Watusimoto	that's really the endgame
23:30:12	raptor	yep
23:30:19	Watusimoto	and it's coming
23:30:23	raptor	oh yeah
23:30:26	Watusimoto	10 years?
23:30:28	raptor	like a locomotive
23:30:36	raptor	distribution is unlimited
23:30:40	raptor	creation is not
23:30:51	raptor	so how do creators get compensated?
23:31:00	Watusimoto	concerts & merch
23:31:02	raptor	problems problems... and i have no solutions
23:31:21	raptor	i can see that
23:31:36	Watusimoto	people fundamentally create because they enjoy it
23:32:17	Watusimoto	they do deserve to get paid
23:32:23	Watusimoto	if they're good
23:32:28	raptor	i agree
23:32:35	raptor	we probably have too many artists right now..
23:32:36	Watusimoto	but it just isn;t goinig to happen via music sales
23:32:47	Watusimoto	that's just a fact
23:33:53	raptor	need more engineers
23:33:57	raptor	maybe researchers
23:34:08	raptor	but definitely fewer artists
23:42:46	raptor	did you dupe the Core bug? (you have to keep holding down the module button after a panel looks healed all the way)
23:42:57	raptor	if you do /settime 0, they stop rotating and it's easier