#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-03-22

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10:02:22 raptor what on earth is an 'item  ID' in the editor?
10:07:30 raptor ok back to bed..
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14:41:55 raptor good morning!
14:42:22 raptor I'm almost done with my refactor of splitting text input and key presses
15:06:03 raptor watusimoto:  what are 'Item ID's for in the Editor?
15:42:53 watusimoto hi
15:43:06 watusimoto do you know how to create an item id?
15:43:06 raptor hello
15:43:16 raptor i just discovered it:  ! or #
15:43:19 watusimoto right
15:43:25 watusimoto they are "reserved for future use"
15:43:34 watusimoto for a future I thought would have long since arrived
15:43:46 watusimoto the idea is to provide some sort of hook for a script to find an item
15:43:50 raptor i asked because i had to make a choice between detecting it as text input of an inputcode
15:43:55 raptor *or
15:43:58 raptor ah
15:44:02 watusimoto so a bot might be programmed to rally at the zone with id #3
15:44:17 watusimoto and on different levels, that zone could be placed in a different spot
15:44:33 raptor interesting
15:44:47 watusimoto the obvious follow on is to create objects (points & polygons) that do nothing at all besdies associate an id with an area or point
15:44:58 watusimoto but so far the robot side is unimplemented
15:45:17 watusimoto or perhaps they could be used by levelgens as well
15:45:30 watusimoto all we really need is a find_by_id function
15:45:52 watusimoto which would be trivial to write
15:46:00 watusimoto ids may also be needed when we have triggers
15:46:04 raptor ok
15:46:11 watusimoto in that they will identify what the trigger acts on
15:46:32 watusimoto add asteroid at point #4
15:46:50 watusimoto of if ship enters area #2, spawn a killbot
15:47:01 raptor haha
15:47:04 watusimoto and so on, ad naseum
15:47:55 raptor ok
15:48:12 raptor well, my refactor is practically complete - there is just one issue i'm not sure what to do about
15:48:32 raptor in UIGame, when you press 'g' or 't' or '/' for chat
15:48:46 raptor it both opens the dialog and puts the 'g' or 't' or '/' in it
15:49:02 raptor because of the separation of text input and key processing
15:49:15 watusimoto right
15:49:19 watusimoto well
15:49:30 watusimoto that's not good
15:49:54 watusimoto but hard to comment on it without knowing what you refactored
15:50:03 raptor it's the only case left I can find that is still broke (yet..)
15:50:17 watusimoto well, that's great!
15:50:33 watusimoto I don't suppose you played with the nexus timer at all?
15:50:39 watusimoto I think it works
15:50:49 raptor I have not
15:50:49 watusimoto but you and sam have ways of finding things I miss :-(
15:51:08 raptor sam686 seems really busy - i only got him to respond that one night
15:51:26 watusimoto the only thing I still need to do with timers is make sure that setting the game time doesn't screw up the core rotation
15:51:31 raptor it's really a matter of just two people playing normally that catches things..
15:51:41 watusimoto I have coded a fix, but haven't really tested it yet
15:52:14 raptor ok
15:52:26 watusimoto so that plus my "paper case"
15:52:37 watusimoto plus a mysterious bug that occasionally makes my screen go black
15:52:45 watusimoto until I press esc twice
15:52:48 raptor the screen saver?
15:52:50 raptor :)
15:53:06 raptor oh - the idle timeout?
15:53:07 watusimoto I thik it's related to suspened
15:53:15 watusimoto related, probably
15:53:20 watusimoto but I can't reproduce yet
15:53:27 watusimoto at least not intentionally
15:53:29 raptor i may have hit that a while back...
15:53:38 watusimoto but I have seen it several times
15:53:55 watusimoto usually when I am off in antoher window while the game is chugging along
15:54:19 watusimoto it;s almost as if the game gets suspended without letting the client know
15:54:30 watusimoto or without letting the player know -- the client knows it's suspended
15:54:42 raptor does the client-side timer not inform the server the client is idle?
15:54:54 watusimoto the server know
15:54:55 watusimoto s
15:55:01 watusimoto the client also seems to know
15:55:05 watusimoto but the player doesn't
15:55:10 watusimoto or something
16:00:21 raptor well, I can commit my refacter - but maybe it's best to wait for 017, because I can imagine some other hard-to-find bugs might crop up
16:01:01 watusimoto 017... coming any day now!
16:15:59 raptor oh
16:16:10 raptor two things about the new achievement
16:16:32 raptor 1.  the 25 flags achievement is hard to see on the (common) team Red scoreboard
16:17:36 raptor 2.  Do we want to provide some sort of mechanism for choosing what achievement you want to show on the scoreboard?  I think I'd like that developer one instead...
16:17:40 watusimoto should we draw a black box behind the achievement?
16:17:46 watusimoto just as a matter of course?
16:18:00 raptor we could, let me see how it looks and send you a screen shot..
16:18:17 watusimoto as for 2, I thought we'd just show them all, at least for the moment
16:18:42 watusimoto I only added rendering for 25 flags
16:18:50 raptor ok
16:18:55 raptor do you like the developer one?
16:18:58 watusimoto I do
16:19:04 watusimoto I'm not sure anyone will get it
16:19:09 watusimoto but maybe that doesn't matter
16:19:59 raptor yeah, that's fine, i think - it would mean people have to actually play real games
16:20:11 watusimoto I thought we could hardcode those with the developer badge, and to get it, you'd have to add yourself to the list and check your code in
16:20:24 raptor haha
16:20:42 raptor so no database entry?
16:20:52 raptor because that's how i added us
16:20:59 watusimoto if we're going to have it, it doesn't make sense to have it in the db, does it?
16:21:20 watusimoto because then someone with permissions needs ot figure out who deserves it and enter the database and all that crap
16:21:21 raptor well, i don't know either way...  it is taking up a bit in the mask
16:22:16 raptor and i thought i'd just be consistent.  don't we have a master call for an earned achievement?
16:22:20 watusimoto I wasn't thinking of coding it on the client side, but maybe we could do it that way; have it be a 33rd acheivement
16:22:29 raptor ah ok
16:23:07 watusimoto maybe we could also have "levels"
16:23:21 watusimoto sort of like achievements, based on the number of games you've played
16:23:41 watusimoto first level at 10, then 20, then 30, then 50, then 80, then...
16:24:25 raptor would each take up part of teh 32bit mask?
16:24:41 raptor so like gold, silver, bronze for something?
16:24:42 watusimoto no, they would be aseparate U8 or U16 number
16:25:14 watusimoto just keep going up and up and up
16:26:59 raptor so an achievement with one bit, then say transmit another U8 with the 'level' of that achievement?
16:27:16 watusimoto oh, sorry; I meant something different
16:27:21 watusimoto I meant an overall level
16:27:26 watusimoto independent of acheivement
16:27:31 watusimoto not an achievement level
16:27:36 raptor ohhhh
16:28:19 raptor on screenshot:  http://i42.tinypic.com/1449ojn.png
16:28:22 raptor *one
16:28:32 watusimoto we'd just pass the number whenever we passed the achievement bitmask
16:28:46 raptor other screen shot:  http://i43.tinypic.com/far87d.png
16:29:02 watusimoto don't love it, but it will do
16:29:16 watusimoto I see we are going to run out of room really fast
16:29:32 raptor yes, that's why i suggested an option of choosing which one
16:29:37 raptor in the future maybe
16:29:45 watusimoto in the future
16:29:47 raptor not sure if we should do that with a UIMenu?
16:30:01 raptor and save preference in DB?
16:30:25 watusimoto or maybe we just start drawing them from best to worst until we run out of room
16:30:52 raptor haha
16:31:03 raptor so yes on the black box?
16:31:08 raptor it isn't see-through
16:31:12 watusimoto yes
16:31:16 raptor ok
16:31:20 watusimoto try bumping the box up by 1px
16:31:22 watusimoto on a side
16:31:27 watusimoto that might make it look less cramped
16:31:49 raptor i'm using the radius that is passed into it
16:31:57 watusimoto add 2 to it
16:32:06 raptor ok
16:32:48 raptor here:  http://i44.tinypic.com/29cngvd.png
16:35:01 watusimoto hmmm
16:35:17 watusimoto better?
16:35:20 watusimoto I think?
16:35:21 raptor eh
16:36:04 watusimoto well, it's not critical at the moment.  I think I slightly prefer the second, but we'll probably revisit this soon as we get more
16:36:13 watusimoto so I don't feel strongly about it
16:36:17 raptor i have a better one...
16:36:51 raptor http://i41.tinypic.com/14ugdpx.png
16:36:58 raptor i like that one better...
16:37:59 watusimoto yes
16:38:12 watusimoto still not perfect, but by far the best of the three
16:38:19 raptor any other adjustments?
16:38:37 watusimoto I almost feel that the icon is too high, but it may just be the nature of this particular one
16:38:48 watusimoto no, it is too high
16:38:58 watusimoto the top is aligned with the top of the t
16:39:06 watusimoto but the boggom doesn't descend at all
16:39:11 watusimoto boggom
16:39:20 raptor hehe
16:39:30 raptor the black box aligbns
16:39:32 raptor aligns
16:40:06 raptor roughly...
16:40:53 raptor black box goes slightly above and below the top/bottom of the 't'
16:47:23 watusimoto yes; but the t itself is not vertically centered
16:47:32 watusimoto an o is a better measure of that
16:48:25 raptor i thought centered was like the zero
16:48:39 raptor 'o' lowercase has a lower center
17:00:39 raptor ok, here is with developer badge:  http://i44.tinypic.com/35ckakm.png
17:00:56 raptor using same radius
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17:12:09 watusimoto looks great
17:12:18 watusimoto rounded corners are the way to go!
17:14:08 raptor it would be cool if the black rectangle was transparent...  but i don't know how to force transparency of the underlining red box
17:28:14 watusimoto me either
17:28:18 watusimoto ok, gotta go
17:28:20 watusimoto later
17:29:08 raptor bye
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17:53:28 danger89 yo
17:56:37 raptor howdy
17:59:32 danger89 I was developer & (one of the big) dedicated server(s) provider of the game Armagetron Advanced
17:59:50 danger89 where also a movie is created from (TRON)
18:00:23 danger89 and the gametype/gameplay of bitfighter is a little bit simular to that game :P
18:00:53 danger89 site: http://armagetronad.org/
18:04:01 raptor yes, i think a few of our older players played that, too
18:04:12 raptor i remember it before the 'AD' days
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18:06:56 Watusimoto hi
18:07:19 Watusimoto I've played that too
18:08:00 raptor hi again
18:11:43 Watusimoto hi
18:11:56 raptor about to check-in some badge clean-up...
18:13:44 raptor found an interesting bug...
18:14:39 raptor enter 'raptor' in the name entry screen, and hit the right arrow twice really quickly - you will get to UIQueryServers before the warning that the name has been taken will kick you back to the name entry
18:15:19 raptor wait!
18:15:28 raptor it kicked me back that time
18:15:36 raptor even in UIQueryServers...  hmmm
18:15:46 raptor i must have actually authenticated by accident
18:15:49 raptor disregard
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20:53:19 Watusimoto hi
20:53:30 Watusimoto I think my "paper case" is done
21:12:08 raptor hi
21:12:10 raptor back
21:12:14 raptor yay
21:17:43 BFLogBot - Commit ffffdb20f834 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: No more spam!  Also better code organization
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21:18:39 raptor what spam?
21:18:56 raptor this was your hard-to-explain bug
21:24:14 Watusimoto yes
21:24:25 Watusimoto I guess not that hard to explain
21:24:37 Watusimoto spam = same message appearing over and over
21:28:22 raptor specially processed artificial meat
21:32:40 raptor so I'd say a good third of the SDL mailing is people having problems coding c/c++
21:32:46 raptor *mailing list
21:34:45 Watusimoto it is a tricky language in some ways
21:35:16 Watusimoto there's still tons I don't know
21:35:26 Watusimoto but I'm pretty comfortable in my zone
21:36:23 raptor i came across this in the SDL code: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/784929/what-is-the-not-not-operator-in-javascript#784946
21:37:44 raptor quick 'n dirty way to create a boolean test out of an integer
21:52:12 Watusimoto !!x -- that's not confusing!
21:52:18 Watusimoto why not !!!!x?
21:52:22 Watusimoto even better!
21:52:34 raptor haha
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22:00:50 raptor want me to put up a dedicated 017 server on the master so we can test Nexus together?
22:09:42 raptor huh, i can't seem to be able to connect to the dedicated server i started...
22:11:17 raptor i'll start another one in a vm...
22:15:02 Watusimoto ok, sure, for a few minutes
22:15:26 raptor i'll run it in gdb for good measure
22:16:33 raptor yay it's up
22:16:41 Watusimoto let me know when its up
22:16:43 raptor the 137 one
22:17:54 Watusimoto stuck on punching through
22:18:22 Watusimoto hmmmm
22:18:25 raptor esc and try again..  that works for me frequently
22:18:33 Watusimoto tried 3x
22:27:43 Watusimoto panel sfx
22:27:46 Watusimoto http://www.bfxr.net/?s=7%2C0.5%2C0.0003%2C0.0553%2C0.5556%2C0.964%2C0.134%2C0.5238%2C%2C-0.6205%2C-0.0455%2C0.0182%2C0.5629%2C0.3489%2C0.9727%2C0.1571%2C0.8238%2C0.7306%2C0.2999%2C0.8949%2C0.8504%2C-0.6867%2C%2C-0.2136%2C-0.3765%2C0.7327%2C-0.6483%2C0.2491%2C0.2405%2C-0.1891%2C0.5544%2C-0.7977%2CmasterVolume
23:05:53 raptor thanks for play testing
23:05:55 Watusimoto hey so that should be an easy fix
23:06:03 Watusimoto I can look at that tomorrow
23:06:09 Watusimoto if you don;t want to
23:06:23 raptor do you want that effect to the one?
23:06:27 raptor for panel?
23:06:34 Watusimoto sure
23:06:40 Watusimoto let me listen again
23:06:52 Watusimoto it's kind of cool
23:06:56 Watusimoto yes
23:06:59 Watusimoto let's use it!
23:07:02 raptor ok
23:07:04 Watusimoto and cross that case off the list
23:07:06 raptor would i just play it once?
23:07:11 Watusimoto yes
23:07:16 raptor great, simple
23:07:19 raptor i'll get it done
23:07:20 Watusimoto once for each panel
23:07:25 Watusimoto yes, simple
23:07:29 Watusimoto I think it will be cool
23:08:24 Watusimoto ok, see you in the am
23:08:28 raptor night
23:08:31 raptor and thanks!
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10:02:22	raptor	what on earth is an 'item ID' in the editor?
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14:41:55	raptor	good morning!
14:42:22	raptor	I'm almost done with my refactor of splitting text input and key presses
15:06:03	raptor	watusimoto: what are 'Item ID's for in the Editor?
15:42:53	watusimoto	hi
15:43:06	watusimoto	do you know how to create an item id?
15:43:06	raptor	hello
15:43:16	raptor	i just discovered it: ! or #
15:43:19	watusimoto	right
15:43:25	watusimoto	they are "reserved for future use"
15:43:34	watusimoto	for a future I thought would have long since arrived
15:43:46	watusimoto	the idea is to provide some sort of hook for a script to find an item
15:43:50	raptor	i asked because i had to make a choice between detecting it as text input of an inputcode
15:43:55	raptor	*or
15:43:58	raptor	ah
15:44:02	watusimoto	so a bot might be programmed to rally at the zone with id #3
15:44:17	watusimoto	and on different levels, that zone could be placed in a different spot
15:44:33	raptor	interesting
15:44:47	watusimoto	the obvious follow on is to create objects (points & polygons) that do nothing at all besdies associate an id with an area or point
15:44:58	watusimoto	but so far the robot side is unimplemented
15:45:17	watusimoto	or perhaps they could be used by levelgens as well
15:45:30	watusimoto	all we really need is a find_by_id function
15:45:52	watusimoto	which would be trivial to write
15:46:00	watusimoto	ids may also be needed when we have triggers
15:46:04	raptor	ok
15:46:11	watusimoto	in that they will identify what the trigger acts on
15:46:32	watusimoto	add asteroid at point #4
15:46:50	watusimoto	of if ship enters area #2, spawn a killbot
15:47:01	raptor	haha
15:47:04	watusimoto	and so on, ad naseum
15:47:55	raptor	ok
15:48:12	raptor	well, my refactor is practically complete - there is just one issue i'm not sure what to do about
15:48:32	raptor	in UIGame, when you press 'g' or 't' or '/' for chat
15:48:46	raptor	it both opens the dialog and puts the 'g' or 't' or '/' in it
15:49:02	raptor	because of the separation of text input and key processing
15:49:15	watusimoto	right
15:49:19	watusimoto	well
15:49:30	watusimoto	that's not good
15:49:54	watusimoto	but hard to comment on it without knowing what you refactored
15:50:03	raptor	it's the only case left I can find that is still broke (yet..)
15:50:17	watusimoto	well, that's great!
15:50:33	watusimoto	I don't suppose you played with the nexus timer at all?
15:50:39	watusimoto	I think it works
15:50:49	raptor	I have not
15:50:49	watusimoto	but you and sam have ways of finding things I miss :-(
15:51:08	raptor	sam686 seems really busy - i only got him to respond that one night
15:51:26	watusimoto	the only thing I still need to do with timers is make sure that setting the game time doesn't screw up the core rotation
15:51:31	raptor	it's really a matter of just two people playing normally that catches things..
15:51:41	watusimoto	I have coded a fix, but haven't really tested it yet
15:52:14	raptor	ok
15:52:26	watusimoto	so that plus my "paper case"
15:52:37	watusimoto	plus a mysterious bug that occasionally makes my screen go black
15:52:45	watusimoto	until I press esc twice
15:52:48	raptor	the screen saver?
15:52:50	raptor	:)
15:53:06	raptor	oh - the idle timeout?
15:53:07	watusimoto	I thik it's related to suspened
15:53:15	watusimoto	related, probably
15:53:20	watusimoto	but I can't reproduce yet
15:53:27	watusimoto	at least not intentionally
15:53:29	raptor	i may have hit that a while back...
15:53:38	watusimoto	but I have seen it several times
15:53:55	watusimoto	usually when I am off in antoher window while the game is chugging along
15:54:19	watusimoto	it;s almost as if the game gets suspended without letting the client know
15:54:30	watusimoto	or without letting the player know -- the client knows it's suspended
15:54:42	raptor	does the client-side timer not inform the server the client is idle?
15:54:54	watusimoto	the server know
15:54:55	watusimoto	s
15:55:01	watusimoto	the client also seems to know
15:55:05	watusimoto	but the player doesn't
15:55:10	watusimoto	or something
16:00:21	raptor	well, I can commit my refacter - but maybe it's best to wait for 017, because I can imagine some other hard-to-find bugs might crop up
16:01:01	watusimoto	017... coming any day now!
16:15:59	raptor	oh
16:16:10	raptor	two things about the new achievement
16:16:32	raptor	1. the 25 flags achievement is hard to see on the (common) team Red scoreboard
16:17:36	raptor	2. Do we want to provide some sort of mechanism for choosing what achievement you want to show on the scoreboard? I think I'd like that developer one instead...
16:17:40	watusimoto	should we draw a black box behind the achievement?
16:17:46	watusimoto	just as a matter of course?
16:18:00	raptor	we could, let me see how it looks and send you a screen shot..
16:18:17	watusimoto	as for 2, I thought we'd just show them all, at least for the moment
16:18:42	watusimoto	I only added rendering for 25 flags
16:18:50	raptor	ok
16:18:55	raptor	do you like the developer one?
16:18:58	watusimoto	I do
16:19:04	watusimoto	I'm not sure anyone will get it
16:19:09	watusimoto	but maybe that doesn't matter
16:19:59	raptor	yeah, that's fine, i think - it would mean people have to actually play real games
16:20:11	watusimoto	I thought we could hardcode those with the developer badge, and to get it, you'd have to add yourself to the list and check your code in
16:20:24	raptor	haha
16:20:42	raptor	so no database entry?
16:20:52	raptor	because that's how i added us
16:20:59	watusimoto	if we're going to have it, it doesn't make sense to have it in the db, does it?
16:21:20	watusimoto	because then someone with permissions needs ot figure out who deserves it and enter the database and all that crap
16:21:21	raptor	well, i don't know either way... it is taking up a bit in the mask
16:22:16	raptor	and i thought i'd just be consistent. don't we have a master call for an earned achievement?
16:22:20	watusimoto	I wasn't thinking of coding it on the client side, but maybe we could do it that way; have it be a 33rd acheivement
16:22:29	raptor	ah ok
16:23:07	watusimoto	maybe we could also have "levels"
16:23:21	watusimoto	sort of like achievements, based on the number of games you've played
16:23:41	watusimoto	first level at 10, then 20, then 30, then 50, then 80, then...
16:24:25	raptor	would each take up part of teh 32bit mask?
16:24:41	raptor	so like gold, silver, bronze for something?
16:24:42	watusimoto	no, they would be aseparate U8 or U16 number
16:25:14	watusimoto	just keep going up and up and up
16:26:59	raptor	so an achievement with one bit, then say transmit another U8 with the 'level' of that achievement?
16:27:16	watusimoto	oh, sorry; I meant something different
16:27:21	watusimoto	I meant an overall level
16:27:26	watusimoto	independent of acheivement
16:27:31	watusimoto	not an achievement level
16:27:36	raptor	ohhhh
16:28:19	raptor	on screenshot: http://i42.tinypic.com/1449ojn.png
16:28:22	raptor	*one
16:28:32	watusimoto	we'd just pass the number whenever we passed the achievement bitmask
16:28:46	raptor	other screen shot: http://i43.tinypic.com/far87d.png
16:29:02	watusimoto	don't love it, but it will do
16:29:16	watusimoto	I see we are going to run out of room really fast
16:29:32	raptor	yes, that's why i suggested an option of choosing which one
16:29:37	raptor	in the future maybe
16:29:45	watusimoto	in the future
16:29:47	raptor	not sure if we should do that with a UIMenu?
16:30:01	raptor	and save preference in DB?
16:30:25	watusimoto	or maybe we just start drawing them from best to worst until we run out of room
16:30:52	raptor	haha
16:31:03	raptor	so yes on the black box?
16:31:08	raptor	it isn't see-through
16:31:12	watusimoto	yes
16:31:16	raptor	ok
16:31:20	watusimoto	try bumping the box up by 1px
16:31:22	watusimoto	on a side
16:31:27	watusimoto	that might make it look less cramped
16:31:49	raptor	i'm using the radius that is passed into it
16:31:57	watusimoto	add 2 to it
16:32:06	raptor	ok
16:32:48	raptor	here: http://i44.tinypic.com/29cngvd.png
16:35:01	watusimoto	hmmm
16:35:17	watusimoto	better?
16:35:20	watusimoto	I think?
16:35:21	raptor	eh
16:36:04	watusimoto	well, it's not critical at the moment. I think I slightly prefer the second, but we'll probably revisit this soon as we get more
16:36:13	watusimoto	so I don't feel strongly about it
16:36:17	raptor	i have a better one...
16:36:51	raptor	http://i41.tinypic.com/14ugdpx.png
16:36:58	raptor	i like that one better...
16:37:59	watusimoto	yes
16:38:12	watusimoto	still not perfect, but by far the best of the three
16:38:19	raptor	any other adjustments?
16:38:37	watusimoto	I almost feel that the icon is too high, but it may just be the nature of this particular one
16:38:48	watusimoto	no, it is too high
16:38:58	watusimoto	the top is aligned with the top of the t
16:39:06	watusimoto	but the boggom doesn't descend at all
16:39:11	watusimoto	boggom
16:39:20	raptor	hehe
16:39:30	raptor	the black box aligbns
16:39:32	raptor	aligns
16:40:06	raptor	roughly...
16:40:53	raptor	black box goes slightly above and below the top/bottom of the 't'
16:47:23	watusimoto	yes; but the t itself is not vertically centered
16:47:32	watusimoto	an o is a better measure of that
16:48:25	raptor	i thought centered was like the zero
16:48:39	raptor	'o' lowercase has a lower center
17:00:39	raptor	ok, here is with developer badge: http://i44.tinypic.com/35ckakm.png
17:00:56	raptor	using same radius
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17:12:09	watusimoto	looks great
17:12:18	watusimoto	rounded corners are the way to go!
17:14:08	raptor	it would be cool if the black rectangle was transparent... but i don't know how to force transparency of the underlining red box
17:28:14	watusimoto	me either
17:28:18	watusimoto	ok, gotta go
17:28:20	watusimoto	later
17:29:08	raptor	bye
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17:53:28	danger89	yo
17:56:37	raptor	howdy
17:59:32	danger89	I was developer & (one of the big) dedicated server(s) provider of the game Armagetron Advanced
17:59:50	danger89	where also a movie is created from (TRON)
18:00:23	danger89	and the gametype/gameplay of bitfighter is a little bit simular to that game :P
18:00:53	danger89	site: http://armagetronad.org/
18:04:01	raptor	yes, i think a few of our older players played that, too
18:04:12	raptor	i remember it before the 'AD' days
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18:06:56	Watusimoto	hi
18:07:19	Watusimoto	I've played that too
18:08:00	raptor	hi again
18:11:43	Watusimoto	hi
18:11:56	raptor	about to check-in some badge clean-up...
18:13:44	raptor	found an interesting bug...
18:14:39	raptor	enter 'raptor' in the name entry screen, and hit the right arrow twice really quickly - you will get to UIQueryServers before the warning that the name has been taken will kick you back to the name entry
18:15:19	raptor	wait!
18:15:28	raptor	it kicked me back that time
18:15:36	raptor	even in UIQueryServers... hmmm
18:15:46	raptor	i must have actually authenticated by accident
18:15:49	raptor	disregard
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20:53:19	Watusimoto	hi
20:53:30	Watusimoto	I think my "paper case" is done
21:12:08	raptor	hi
21:12:10	raptor	back
21:12:14	raptor	yay
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21:18:39	raptor	what spam?
21:18:56	raptor	this was your hard-to-explain bug
21:24:14	Watusimoto	yes
21:24:25	Watusimoto	I guess not that hard to explain
21:24:37	Watusimoto	spam = same message appearing over and over
21:28:22	raptor	specially processed artificial meat
21:32:40	raptor	so I'd say a good third of the SDL mailing is people having problems coding c/c++
21:32:46	raptor	*mailing list
21:34:45	Watusimoto	it is a tricky language in some ways
21:35:16	Watusimoto	there's still tons I don't know
21:35:26	Watusimoto	but I'm pretty comfortable in my zone
21:36:23	raptor	i came across this in the SDL code: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/784929/what-is-the-not-not-operator-in-javascript#784946
21:37:44	raptor	quick 'n dirty way to create a boolean test out of an integer
21:52:12	Watusimoto	!!x -- that's not confusing!
21:52:18	Watusimoto	why not !!!!x?
21:52:22	Watusimoto	even better!
21:52:34	raptor	haha
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22:00:50	raptor	want me to put up a dedicated 017 server on the master so we can test Nexus together?
22:09:42	raptor	huh, i can't seem to be able to connect to the dedicated server i started...
22:11:17	raptor	i'll start another one in a vm...
22:15:02	Watusimoto	ok, sure, for a few minutes
22:15:26	raptor	i'll run it in gdb for good measure
22:16:33	raptor	yay it's up
22:16:41	Watusimoto	let me know when its up
22:16:43	raptor	the 137 one
22:17:54	Watusimoto	stuck on punching through
22:18:22	Watusimoto	hmmmm
22:18:25	raptor	esc and try again.. that works for me frequently
22:18:33	Watusimoto	tried 3x
22:27:43	Watusimoto	panel sfx
22:27:46	Watusimoto	http://www.bfxr.net/?s=7%2C0.5%2C0.0003%2C0.0553%2C0.5556%2C0.964%2C0.134%2C0.5238%2C%2C-0.6205%2C-0.0455%2C0.0182%2C0.5629%2C0.3489%2C0.9727%2C0.1571%2C0.8238%2C0.7306%2C0.2999%2C0.8949%2C0.8504%2C-0.6867%2C%2C-0.2136%2C-0.3765%2C0.7327%2C-0.6483%2C0.2491%2C0.2405%2C-0.1891%2C0.5544%2C-0.7977%2CmasterVolume
23:05:53	raptor	thanks for play testing
23:05:55	Watusimoto	hey so that should be an easy fix
23:06:03	Watusimoto	I can look at that tomorrow
23:06:09	Watusimoto	if you don;t want to
23:06:23	raptor	do you want that effect to the one?
23:06:27	raptor	for panel?
23:06:34	Watusimoto	sure
23:06:40	Watusimoto	let me listen again
23:06:52	Watusimoto	it's kind of cool
23:06:56	Watusimoto	yes
23:06:59	Watusimoto	let's use it!
23:07:02	raptor	ok
23:07:04	Watusimoto	and cross that case off the list
23:07:06	raptor	would i just play it once?
23:07:11	Watusimoto	yes
23:07:16	raptor	great, simple
23:07:19	raptor	i'll get it done
23:07:20	Watusimoto	once for each panel
23:07:25	Watusimoto	yes, simple
23:07:29	Watusimoto	I think it will be cool
23:08:24	Watusimoto	ok, see you in the am
23:08:28	raptor	night
23:08:31	raptor	and thanks!
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