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| 02:29:07 | BlackBird_ | wheredideveryonego |
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| 02:43:21 | raptor | Oh hi BFLogBot |
| 02:43:30 | raptor | Hi BlackBird_ |
| 02:48:15 | raptor | !bugs |
| 02:48:15 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current running bug list: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List |
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| 03:08:25 | BlackBird_ | bluh |
| 03:08:36 | BlackBird_ | this |
| 03:08:39 | BlackBird_ | video |
| 03:08:40 | BlackBird_ | is |
| 03:08:41 | raptor | that's not a standard greeting |
| 03:08:42 | BlackBird_ | talking |
| 03:08:43 | BlackBird_ | too |
| 03:08:44 | BlackBird_ | long |
| 03:08:56 | BlackBird_ | im rendering a video |
| 03:09:09 | BlackBird_ | should i show you a screenshot? |
| 03:09:23 | BlackBird_ | I've got like all 4 cores running on full speed |
| 03:09:48 | raptor | not at the moment - i'm working on one of the last bugs for 017 |
| 03:10:06 | raptor | maybe you could render at a smaller resolution? |
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| 03:20:09 | BlackBird_ | nah |
| 03:20:22 | BlackBird_ | its already at like a 3rd of the way |
| 03:20:44 | raptor | are you rendering on your newer computer? |
| 03:21:18 | raptor | how long is the animation? (sounds like an inefficient program...) |
| 03:21:18 | BlackBird_ | duh |
| 03:21:26 | BlackBird_ | its not an animation |
| 03:21:33 | BlackBird_ | its a time-lapse video |
| 03:21:35 | BlackBird_ | http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/3027/screenshot20120323at101d.png |
| 03:21:50 | raptor | total tiem? |
| 03:21:54 | BlackBird_ | there is a photo with activity monitor next to it |
| 03:22:13 | BlackBird_ | look at the cpu usage thngy |
| 03:22:23 | raptor | how long is the resultant video? |
| 03:22:42 | BlackBird_ | ummm |
| 03:22:44 | BlackBird_ | not sure |
| 03:22:52 | raptor | ummm... why are you rendering in 1080p? |
| 03:22:54 | BlackBird_ | at least like 20 mins or so |
| 03:22:58 | BlackBird_ | at 1080p |
| 03:23:08 | raptor | 1080p is practically useless |
| 03:23:24 | raptor | how big is the source? 1080p? |
| 03:23:30 | BlackBird_ | unless you have a screen this big |
| 03:23:37 | BlackBird_ | nah |
| 03:23:53 | raptor | DVD quality is 480p and it looks great on 1080 screens |
| 03:24:15 | BlackBird_ | I'm used my iPod camera xD which claims 720, |
| 03:24:24 | BlackBird_ | LOL |
| 03:24:26 | BlackBird_ | im used |
| 03:24:28 | raptor | you should be rendering at no more than 720... |
| 03:24:35 | BlackBird_ | i knoww |
| 03:24:38 | raptor | ha! |
| 03:25:11 | raptor | not only is it spending CPU resources to encode, it has to expend resources to upscale |
| 03:25:16 | BlackBird_ | but there was this one time where i air streamed the videos on our big tv and it looked pretty good |
| 03:26:07 | BlackBird_ | man |
| 03:26:11 | BlackBird_ | its getting really late |
| 03:26:16 | BlackBird_ | i should probably go |
| 03:26:37 | BlackBird_ | yea i should go |
| 03:26:48 | raptor | by my calculations |
| 03:27:02 | BlackBird_ | wowoowaitwhaaa |
| 03:27:12 | BlackBird_ | whatjusthappend |
| 03:27:16 | BlackBird_ | ... |
| 03:27:24 | BlackBird_ | now I'm officially creeped out |
| 03:27:41 | raptor | by my calculations |
| 03:27:47 | BlackBird_ | no no |
| 03:27:54 | BlackBird_ | did you see the screen shot? |
| 03:27:57 | raptor | it will take roughly 44% of the time to encode at 720p than at 1080p |
| 03:28:00 | raptor | maybe faster |
| 03:28:04 | raptor | yes |
| 03:28:15 | raptor | hard to read text... |
| 03:28:15 | BlackBird_ | and did you see the thing where it says "creating 1080p video"? |
| 03:28:18 | raptor | yes |
| 03:28:26 | BlackBird_ | now its says 720 |
| 03:28:30 | BlackBird_ | O_o |
| 03:29:08 | raptor | so i figure it would take about 2.2x as long to encode at 1080p |
| 03:29:29 | BlackBird_ | NO! the weird thing is that i didn't do anything |
| 03:29:35 | BlackBird_ | ANYTHING |
| 03:29:48 | BlackBird_ | i must releave my bladder |
| 03:29:54 | BlackBird_ | brb |
| 03:32:14 | BlackBird_ | aaaaaaahhh |
| 03:32:45 | BlackBird_ | i'd rather eat randy |
| 03:32:50 | BlackBird_ | randy randy |
| 03:32:59 | BlackBird_ | i'd rather eat randyyyyyy |
| 03:33:02 | BlackBird_ | i shall go now |
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| 03:35:45 | | BFLogBot - Commit 33824e209150 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Don't deactivate helpers/chat boxes when coming back from help screen |
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| 03:45:31 | silvernode | Hello |
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| 03:50:48 | | BFLogBot - Commit cfa719c00468 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix some compiler warnings |
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| 14:31:02 | raptor | good morning! |
| 14:32:05 | raptor | i fixed minor bug of not returning to the correct UIGame mode after entering help |
| 14:32:12 | raptor | (which i did not introduce...) |
| 14:32:39 | raptor | but, i'm not sure if my fix was appropriate - it seems to work with no adverse effects... |
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| 14:56:45 | | BFLogBot - Commit f2dee9647716 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Remove headers from Mac DMG |
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| 15:37:02 | raptor | oh also, do we want to include that one music track? |
| 15:37:40 | raptor | it is automatically picked up by the build scripts - maybe we should move it to another folder in the repo |
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| 17:26:33 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 17:27:02 | Watusimoto | found another serious bug |
| 17:28:19 | raptor | hi |
| 17:28:20 | raptor | really? |
| 17:31:24 | Watusimoto | host a short game |
| 17:31:47 | Watusimoto | don't do anything except start entering a chat message |
| 17:31:53 | Watusimoto | go away |
| 17:31:57 | Watusimoto | come back when the game is over |
| 17:32:05 | Watusimoto | you'll see the problem |
| 17:32:46 | Watusimoto | I've encountered this a few times without trying to reproduce |
| 17:33:00 | Watusimoto | before I figured out what the problem is |
| 17:33:05 | Watusimoto | so it's not just an academic issue |
| 17:33:08 | Watusimoto | sadly |
| 17:33:18 | raptor | i don't see it |
| 17:33:29 | raptor | i set a game to 10 seconds, started typing a chat message |
| 17:33:32 | raptor | let the timer go |
| 17:33:41 | Watusimoto | try 30 secs |
| 17:34:36 | raptor | black! |
| 17:34:51 | raptor | i've hit this before |
| 17:35:09 | raptor | if you press escape, it sort of brings you back... |
| 17:35:16 | Watusimoto | but it also sort of doesn't |
| 17:35:22 | raptor | yes |
| 17:35:26 | Watusimoto | hit esc twice |
| 17:35:27 | raptor | is that the idle timer |
| 17:35:30 | Watusimoto | that will bring you back full on |
| 17:35:32 | raptor | back to normal |
| 17:35:37 | raptor | interesting |
| 17:35:45 | Watusimoto | I think it's the game being suspended |
| 17:35:55 | Watusimoto | but the client not getting in the right mode because of the chat message |
| 17:36:12 | Watusimoto | I think it's probably any helper menu (loadout, quickchat, etc.) |
| 17:36:19 | Watusimoto | though I haven't tested those |
| 17:36:27 | raptor | uh |
| 17:36:31 | raptor | did you see my last checking? |
| 17:36:35 | raptor | check-in |
| 17:36:50 | raptor | the fix for the help menus |
| 17:36:54 | Watusimoto | no; my machine crashed and I haven't loaded tortoise yet |
| 17:36:56 | Watusimoto | will look |
| 17:37:54 | raptor | it doesn't seem to affect this problem, actually... |
| 17:42:46 | Watusimoto | mac headers? |
| 17:43:01 | Watusimoto | ah I see |
| 17:43:10 | Watusimoto | don't deactivate... |
| 17:43:29 | Watusimoto | you are referring to the help problem we discussed last night |
| 17:43:32 | Watusimoto | yes I had seen that |
| 17:43:38 | raptor | ah ok |
| 17:43:46 | Watusimoto | so |
| 17:43:52 | raptor | i had to disABLE The resetting of the game mode |
| 17:43:59 | Watusimoto | this is going to be a bit of work to fix |
| 17:44:04 | raptor | aww |
| 17:44:12 | Watusimoto | but it will not require any real refactoring |
| 17:44:44 | Watusimoto | so I can do it, but probably won't be able to really dig in for a few hours |
| 17:44:47 | Watusimoto | or you can try |
| 17:45:01 | Watusimoto | I created this problem, though, so I feel a bit responsible |
| 17:45:03 | raptor | i'm taking off for about 3 hours, in 20 min. |
| 17:45:25 | Watusimoto | ok, then I'll do it |
| 17:45:34 | raptor | yeah, and i don't know any of the idle code |
| 17:45:37 | raptor | ok |
| 17:45:40 | Watusimoto | no worries |
| 17:45:53 | Watusimoto | I understand the problem, not sure exactly how to fix |
| 17:45:59 | Watusimoto | but generally I do |
| 17:56:10 | raptor | well, i'm out - i'll be back at about 9:30 your time, or so |
| 17:58:22 | Watusimoto | later |
| 17:58:46 | raptor | oh yay, people playing |
| 17:58:48 | raptor | bye |
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| 20:42:26 | raptor | hello |
| 20:43:01 | raptor | any progress on the evil bug? |
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| 22:23:27 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 22:23:31 | Watusimoto | none at all |
| 22:23:32 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:23:59 | Watusimoto | hi sam |
| 22:24:10 | Watusimoto | I've been trying to get this stupid lego machine working for my son |
| 22:24:32 | Watusimoto | he got a book of some very cool contraptions, and picked a fairly complex one to start on |
| 22:24:45 | Watusimoto | since we were missing a bunch of the bits, I had to redesign it a fair bit |
| 22:24:51 | Watusimoto | but I can't get it to work |
| 22:24:57 | Watusimoto | ian has long since gone to bed |
| 22:25:05 | Watusimoto | and now I'm just angry and frustrated |
| 22:25:11 | Watusimoto | so. |
| 22:25:28 | Watusimoto | that's been my evening |
| 22:25:38 | Watusimoto | and now the button on my mouse is broken, kind of |
| 22:26:46 | Watusimoto | ok, I'm going to take a crack at the last remaining bug that I know of |
| 22:29:17 | raptor | nothing like legos to make one angry |
| 22:36:01 | Watusimoto | stupid legos |
| 22:36:40 | Watusimoto | this is the book, btw |
| 22:36:41 | Watusimoto | http://nostarch.com/technic_contraptions.htm |
| 22:37:33 | raptor | neat |
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| 23:01:47 | Watusimoto | alright, not sure what should happen here |
| 23:01:53 | Watusimoto | you are spawndelayed |
| 23:02:00 | Watusimoto | because you are composing a chat message |
| 23:02:07 | Watusimoto | and not playing |
| 23:02:20 | Watusimoto | someone kills you |
| 23:02:25 | Watusimoto | what should happen? |
| 23:02:34 | raptor | if composing |
| 23:02:35 | Watusimoto | normally we show the hit any key to respawn message |
| 23:02:38 | raptor | then you are 'playing' |
| 23:02:41 | Watusimoto | but you are composing |
| 23:03:00 | Watusimoto | but the server (which does the delaying) doesn't know what you are doing |
| 23:03:08 | Watusimoto | all it knows is what you aren't doing, which is moving |
| 23:03:11 | raptor | true |
| 23:04:02 | Watusimoto | so you have to go into spawn delay mode, I think |
| 23:04:37 | Watusimoto | what if you are composing a message when you leave the room |
| 23:04:39 | raptor | spawn-delay = idle? |
| 23:04:52 | Watusimoto | yes, I think |
| 23:05:05 | raptor | composing on the master server chat relay? |
| 23:05:09 | Watusimoto | basically, if you don;t move or fire for 20 seconds, and you are killed, you see the press any key to spawn |
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| 23:05:22 | Watusimoto | composing anywhere |
| 23:07:33 | raptor | i don't know - it almost seems like this idle time out mechanism is more trouble than its worth |
| 23:07:53 | Watusimoto | maybe |
| 23:08:43 | Watusimoto | but the problem it was intended to address was a real one -- players sitting in a level while they were off getting something to eat or whatever, being easy prey for someone sitting by the spawn point |
| 23:09:33 | Watusimoto | I suppose I could have the client do the following |
| 23:09:57 | Watusimoto | when it gets a message that spawn is delayed, it could immediately respond with "no I'm not" message |
| 23:10:10 | Watusimoto | then server doesn;t need to track what client is doing |
| 23:10:25 | Watusimoto | however... |
| 23:11:12 | Watusimoto | maybe when spawn is delayed, even if chatting, it just shows the message, which will then disappear when you enter the message and return to the game |
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