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IRC Log for 2012-04-13

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00:19:44questsam686 can you help me reset my password?
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03:06:04raptorsam686: is astrobot the same as orbitbot?
03:31:42sam686not sure, i haven't hardly looked on those bors
03:38:36raptormaybe i should look at the running bug list
03:55:15BFLogBot - Commit f1f063679e12 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix F5 not exiting global chat
04:35:22BFLogBot - Commit 8841c43fc8e5 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Use libtomcrypt for md5 instead of redundant class
04:35:52raptorthat redundancy was bugging me...
04:53:01raptorok good night
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06:08:32questsam you still here!
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14:52:21raptorgood morning!
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15:16:18watusimotohi
15:16:22raptorhello
15:29:28raptorwatusimoto: had a questino for you:
15:29:35raptorin resource/robots
15:29:54raptorwhat is astrobot.bot and gameobject.lua?
15:30:08raptorboth files looks like orbitbot.bot with slight differences
15:30:12raptorare they needed?
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15:55:39watusimotonot sure what they are, but sure they are not needed
15:55:45raptorok
15:56:38raptori'm thinking about updating libtomcrypt - there have been tons of changes including performance improvements
15:56:51watusimotook, sounds goo
15:56:52watusimotod
15:57:05raptorexcept that the most recent version has a layout and structure totally different (not API change - file structure)
15:57:20watusimotothat's ok, isn't it?
15:57:21raptorand there are twice as many crypto routines
15:57:28raptornew algos, etc.
15:57:36raptorso the compiled library is twice as big now
15:58:28watusimotobut if faster, that's ok
15:59:35watusimotoman, gimp really sucks hard
15:59:40raptorok - just wanted to make sure you're ok with 700K -> 1.5MB
15:59:51watusimotothat much bigger???
15:59:55raptorbut that is debug library, so may be smaller...
16:00:04raptoroh no, not debug
16:00:08raptorrelease
16:00:10raptoryeah...
16:00:25raptorthey've exploded with new algorithm support
16:00:34raptorwe're like 25 releases behind
16:00:39raptor(or more)
16:01:32BFLogBot - Commit 5e95df14aac7 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Remove old bots/code
16:02:09watusimotoif its easy we can see if it feels any faster
16:03:36raptorok, stripped libtomcrypt is 1MB
16:04:07raptorand stripped old libtomcrypt 550KB
16:04:35watusimotobtw, it is "he" not "they" with tom
16:04:47watusimotoat least as of a few years ago
16:05:11raptorit is now maintained by several: https://github.com/libtom/libtomcrypt
16:06:04raptorlooks like after compression, the new libtomcrypt will add about 150 - 200K to an installer
16:13:17watusimotoif it improves performance, it's worth it
16:13:25raptorok, i'll get profile data...
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16:36:00raptorsigh - i can't tell if it's any better
16:44:43watusimotoprefect!
16:44:53watusimotoyou may not be able to tell, but you *know*
16:45:04raptori need a double blind test
16:45:17watusimotowe can stick with the old library if you prefer... I really don't think we use it that much outside of connecting
16:45:39watusimotoI always like the new stuff, and I don;t really care about size, but as a practical matter...
16:45:45watusimotohardly seems to matter
16:46:58raptori got rid of our redundant md5 hash class last night
16:47:03raptorand used libtomcrypt instead
16:51:25watusimotogood -- had wanted to do that for a while
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