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| 02:18:19 | raptor | i think Watusimoto left his laptop open... |
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| 04:34:33 | kaen | raptor, I just took my final exams today. I'd like to start contributing, so if you could point me to a good issue to get my feet wet, I'd be thrilled. |
| 04:43:48 | raptor | hi kaen |
| 04:44:03 | kaen | hello. |
| 04:45:47 | raptor | first things (sorry if i've asked this before and don't remember..) |
| 04:46:04 | raptor | are you familiar with mercurial? |
| 04:46:40 | kaen | familiar enough to checkout. I can learn the basics quickly I think |
| 04:46:42 | raptor | or even, familiar with a DVCS like git? |
| 04:46:46 | kaen | yeah |
| 04:46:51 | kaen | git is my home-boy |
| 04:47:03 | raptor | excellent, then mercurial will be easy |
| 04:47:08 | raptor | what system do you use? |
| 04:47:17 | kaen | linux x86_64 |
| 04:47:28 | raptor | sweet! me too |
| 04:47:30 | kaen | I'm on suse right now but I switch between this, ubuntu and arch |
| 04:47:33 | kaen | sick :) |
| 04:47:45 | raptor | a fellow lizard, no less! |
| 04:47:58 | kaen | newly converted, too |
| 04:48:06 | raptor | :) |
| 04:48:09 | kaen | my first week in, but I love it |
| 04:48:22 | kaen | I've contributed to a couple other projects before, but I'm no pro |
| 04:48:26 | raptor | i love opensuse - it makes a great server + dev box |
| 04:48:32 | raptor | in addition to a desktop |
| 04:48:37 | raptor | oh and it's green :) |
| 04:48:43 | kaen | my favorite part |
| 04:48:48 | kaen | :) |
| 04:48:52 | raptor | ok cool |
| 04:49:22 | raptor | well, technically we only have projects checked in for vc++ on windows and xcode on mac |
| 04:49:58 | raptor | so you can use an IDE of your choosing in linux, and then just use the Makefile |
| 04:50:06 | raptor | (i use eclipse-cpp) |
| 04:50:27 | kaen | my applause, I tried it and couldn't hang |
| 04:50:37 | kaen | I like c::b |
| 04:50:50 | kaen | but this Makefile is working fine for me |
| 04:52:35 | raptor | and let me get you a good issue to work on... oh, i wrote this a while back: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Contribute_using_Mercurial |
| 04:53:04 | kaen | oh thanks! |
| 04:53:47 | raptor | to start you'll probably work in a clone, and i'll pull from it - but if you want to be a regular (and your commits are decent) then i'll give you direct access to the main repo |
| 04:54:01 | kaen | sounds good to me |
| 04:54:16 | kaen | that's how I've worked in the past, as well |
| 04:56:12 | raptor | what are your language strengths with c/c++ and lua? |
| 04:57:10 | kaen | I'm totally comfortable with C, I'm still getting used to C++, but I'm used to OOP from Ruby and Python. I used some lua in freedroidrpg and I've even played with the C bindings for it |
| 04:57:31 | kaen | I've been writing C for about a year and a half, C++ for about three months |
| 04:57:39 | raptor | awesome! |
| 04:57:47 | raptor | perfect |
| 04:57:49 | kaen | phew :) |
| 04:59:02 | raptor | hmmm... looks like i've done all the low-hanging fruit already in the issues list :) |
| 04:59:14 | kaen | That's what I was noticing |
| 04:59:29 | raptor | it's to boost my confidence that i'm getting things done |
| 04:59:35 | raptor | :-D |
| 05:00:09 | raptor | !bug |
| 05:00:09 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current running bug list: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List |
| 05:00:22 | raptor | ooo, good one |
| 05:00:39 | raptor | take a look at #7 on the running bug list ^^ |
| 05:01:12 | kaen | shweet :) |
| 05:02:28 | raptor | please ask anything and everything |
| 05:02:35 | raptor | also feel free to ridicule the code |
| 05:02:54 | kaen | likewise :) |
| 05:03:25 | raptor | just curious - what timezone are you in? |
| 05:03:36 | kaen | pacific |
| 05:03:45 | kaen | yourself? |
| 05:03:46 | raptor | ha! |
| 05:03:51 | kaen | I see |
| 05:04:07 | raptor | you: pacific, me: mountain, sam686: central |
| 05:04:17 | raptor | Watusimoto is in GMT (I think) |
| 05:04:26 | kaen | heh |
| 05:04:37 | raptor | he's the main developer, but is always asleep when the rest of us want to code.. |
| 05:05:10 | sam686 | ok.. my clock can be found out with /ctcp sam686 time |
| 05:05:31 | raptor | really? neat |
| 05:05:58 | sam686 | except i got a |
| 05:06:01 | sam686 | "CTCP request from raptor [~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine] (), ignored (unrecognized)" |
| 05:06:05 | raptor | ha |
| 05:06:57 | raptor | ok, sorry kaen, i'll be back in about 30min to an hour... please queue up your questions or ask sam686 |
| 05:07:04 | kaen | will do |
| 05:07:08 | kaen | ttyl |
| 05:08:31 | raptor | i'd start with UIEditor.cpp and CoreGame.cpp with method CoreItem::renderItem() |
| 05:08:40 | raptor | (I think...) |
| 05:08:43 | raptor | brb |
| 05:20:43 | | [sam686 PING] |
| 05:21:14 | sam686 | oh haha, /ctcp #bitfighter PING pings everyone it looks like.. |
| 05:22:44 | kaen | lol |
| 05:22:56 | kaen | I used to have some pretty silly responses to those |
| 05:23:12 | kaen | mIRC v0.8b etc |
| 05:24:12 | kaen | 'telnet' was another favorite |
| 05:50:16 | | [raptor PING] |
| 05:50:22 | raptor | hi |
| 05:50:31 | sam686 | hi |
| 05:50:46 | raptor | sam686: what do you think of the /idle undelay timer i added? |
| 05:51:02 | sam686 | i haven't looked at that yet.. |
| 05:51:05 | raptor | i put it at 5 seconds, think that is too much? |
| 05:52:02 | raptor | i should try code::blocks again sometime soon... i can't remember why i chose eclipse over it |
| 05:52:40 | sam686 | my guess is, you are too used to eclipse.. |
| 05:52:53 | raptor | probably :) |
| 05:53:05 | raptor | i use the java version at work.. |
| 05:58:46 | kaen | I remember eclipse has sweet refactoring support though |
| 05:59:37 | raptor | yes! that was it: really nice refactoring |
| 05:59:46 | kaen | I'm using vim right now to browse the source :P |
| 06:00:06 | raptor | can you do method jumps inside vim? |
| 06:00:07 | kaen | not feasible for a project like this though. |
| 06:00:16 | kaen | /method_name |
| 06:00:18 | kaen | lol |
| 06:00:20 | raptor | ha |
| 06:00:26 | kaen | but no |
| 06:00:41 | kaen | there's probably a plugin for it, but the time it would take to build an IDE |
| 06:00:53 | kaen | is not worth it |
| 06:01:42 | sam686 | simple text editor (expecially on console) use the least amount of memory, but eclipse / code-lite and similar Programmer tools use more RAM but have features that may help.. |
| 06:02:07 | raptor | code-lite? |
| 06:02:17 | sam686 | i meant code blocks |
| 06:02:24 | sam686 | or whatever it is called |
| 06:02:30 | raptor | it's funny... there is a code-lite IDE, too |
| 06:03:49 | raptor | CodeLite |
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| 06:05:05 | raptor | i'll be honest: eclipse is a monster |
| 06:05:13 | raptor | and my laptop can handle it |
| 06:05:20 | raptor | but i'm always looking for leaner tools |
| 06:06:32 | kaen | codeblocks is pretty hefty imo |
| 06:06:54 | kaen | but noticeably more responsive than eclipse |
| 06:07:21 | raptor | wow, codelite starts up fast! |
| 06:07:27 | raptor | now let's see what it can do.. |
| 06:09:33 | raptor | ctrl+click goes to declaration, ctrl+alt+click goes to implementation... |
| 06:10:12 | kaen | ;_; |
| 06:10:29 | raptor | i don't recognize that emoticon... |
| 06:10:56 | kaen | tears. that sounds so beautiful |
| 06:11:21 | raptor | yeah... i'm starting to like codelite... |
| 06:11:32 | raptor | next test: refactoring |
| 06:15:05 | raptor | yay: full symbol renaming with ctrl+shift+H |
| 06:16:04 | raptor | not quite as fast as eclipse for symbol renaming, but that's probably because it doesn't hold the entire symbol table in memory, for speed |
| 06:16:19 | raptor | err, i mean for memory usage (not speed) |
| 06:17:07 | raptor | ha, it uses 42MB RAM compared to eclipse at 365MB |
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| 06:19:20 | sam686 | wikipedia says CodeLite have stable: 4.0.5589 / June 5, 2012; 1 day ago |
| 06:19:36 | sam686 | but, Code-Blocks Stable release 10.05 / May 30, 2010; 2 years ago getting outdated i guess? |
| 06:19:47 | raptor | sounds like it... |
| 06:20:04 | raptor | looks like codelite may be the spiritual successor |
| 06:21:33 | raptor | next test: to figure out how to get it to compile and debug :) |
| 06:31:59 | zoomber_mbp | hey raptor, sam |
| 06:32:10 | raptor | hi zoomber |
| 06:32:22 | zoomber_mbp | i'm doing something pretty neat right now |
| 06:32:31 | zoomber_mbp | I made my own google font'd version of my last name |
| 06:32:49 | raptor | really? |
| 06:32:52 | zoomber_mbp | and am going to make it my header logo, like the one that shows up when it says "Gmail" or "GoogleDocs" |
| 06:33:47 | zoomber_mbp | right now it looks like this: http://postimage.org/image/6y5tdc0dt/ |
| 06:34:20 | raptor | neat. how do you switch it out like that? |
| 06:34:44 | zoomber_mbp | Basically |
| 06:34:55 | zoomber_mbp | I bought a domain, (hushahn.com) under google, 10 dollars |
| 06:35:10 | zoomber_mbp | I know it's 5 elsewhere, but its with google, that's much better, here's why |
| 06:35:42 | zoomber_mbp | It sets up everything for you, no linking and cnaming unless you want to use another server. |
| 06:36:11 | zoomber_mbp | However, it also sets you up a private businesslike account on google too |
| 06:36:22 | zoomber_mbp | and with this, you can "replace" the google logo with your "Company logo" |
| 06:36:36 | raptor | heh, neat |
| 06:36:43 | zoomber_mbp | So, I'm a one-person employed company, and my company logo is my last name ^_^ |
| 06:36:52 | raptor | haha |
| 06:37:46 | sam686 | ok... but a one-person company often needs to figure out how to get money somehow... |
| 06:38:25 | zoomber_mbp | true sam, very true |
| 06:39:17 | raptor | ok, i think i'm going to sleep... so far debugging looks ok in codelite |
| 06:39:21 | zoomber_mbp | And I shall achieve that through the use of entrepreneuring |
| 06:39:38 | zoomber_mbp | also, maybe one of you know how to do this |
| 06:39:56 | zoomber_mbp | That logo gets stretched out when i put it in, because I don't have enough width pixels |
| 06:40:35 | zoomber_mbp | is there a way to put in extra *background* pixels in a picture? a specific program that's good at this? GIMP? i like to use mac's standard preview but I can use that too |
| 06:41:22 | raptor | gimp |
| 06:41:41 | sam686 | if you have raw Html code addess, you can put <img src="___.png" width=100 height=100> |
| 06:41:44 | raptor | you create a new file with the size you want, then just paste in the old one as a layer |
| 06:41:50 | sam686 | or whatever the size is... |
| 06:42:11 | zoomber_mbp | aaah |
| 06:42:18 | zoomber_mbp | smart one, raptor is |
| 06:42:41 | zoomber_mbp | sam, it only lets me upload a PNG or GIF, not html'ize it |
| 06:44:11 | sam686 | either way, stretching a small picture bigger often results in blurry, unless you can do much better editing after resizing.. |
| 06:49:23 | | raptor 's head is bobbing to the sweet rythm of sheep jumping |
| 06:49:42 | raptor | ok, good night |
| 06:49:50 | raptor | i can't keep my eyes open any longer |
| 06:49:57 | sam686 | ok |
| 06:49:59 | raptor | oh and codelite debugging seems to work OK |
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| 12:26:29 | watusimoto | hi kaen |
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| 12:59:00 | Little_Apple | heyheyhey |
| 13:06:57 | Little_Apple | byebyebye |
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| 14:21:14 | raptor | good morning! |
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| 14:42:09 | raptor | kaen: did you ever create a clone and get your build environment set up OK? |
| 14:56:34 | watusimoto | I left my laptop on last night, and saw the chat log |
| 14:56:40 | raptor | hi |
| 14:56:43 | watusimoto | I have a good idea for kaen |
| 14:56:55 | raptor | oh good - i may have pointed him to a difficult one... |
| 14:56:57 | watusimoto | I started working on this when I fell asleep |
| 14:57:16 | watusimoto | I was going to do a little UI refactor of your /idle delay display |
| 14:57:32 | watusimoto | it's pretty easy (I think), so it might be a good thing for him to try |
| 14:57:42 | watusimoto | no offense, of course! :-) |
| 14:57:59 | raptor | hehe, no problem... |
| 14:58:16 | raptor | i've actually been thinking: i need to finish up my engineered teleporter |
| 14:58:23 | raptor | instead of bot stuff... |
| 14:58:28 | raptor | for the moment |
| 14:58:49 | watusimoto | I thought we should make it say something like whatever it says now, except "Can rejoin in X seconds" |
| 14:58:55 | watusimoto | with a second-by second countdown |
| 14:59:09 | watusimoto | and then when the time has elapsed, it reverts to what we have now |
| 14:59:30 | raptor | ah |
| 14:59:38 | raptor | that's much easier than what i suggested... |
| 14:59:53 | watusimoto | yes, it's probably very simple |
| 14:59:56 | raptor | good idea |
| 15:00:59 | watusimoto | there are some weird artifacts I noticed as well; at one point I had a second ship appear, and I could see sparks and/or the spawn shield through the press any key screen |
| 15:01:07 | watusimoto | not sure what was happening there |
| 15:01:20 | raptor | with /idle? |
| 15:01:22 | watusimoto | yes |
| 15:01:26 | raptor | uh |
| 15:01:39 | raptor | hmmm... there may have been one older commit where that happened... |
| 15:01:41 | watusimoto | when I do /idle, I see the sparks from my explosion |
| 15:01:47 | raptor | oh yes |
| 15:01:47 | watusimoto | maybe that's what I have |
| 15:01:58 | watusimoto | but I should see no sparks |
| 15:02:00 | raptor | is that bad? |
| 15:02:10 | watusimoto | it's kind of weird |
| 15:02:19 | raptor | well, it's a matter of waiting for the ship 'death sequence' to end before blanking out... |
| 15:02:27 | raptor | maybe that is a little weird |
| 15:02:30 | watusimoto | I expect the screen to be black as soon as I press /idle |
| 15:03:31 | watusimoto | I fell aslseep before I could fully investigate |
| 15:03:48 | raptor | ah i ssee why |
| 15:04:02 | watusimoto | anyway... if I'm not around when he comes on, feel free to suggest that idea |
| 15:04:24 | raptor | the normal idle timer waits for the death sequence to end, too - but the /idle command returns the spawndelay flag immediately instead of waiting |
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| 15:05:07 | raptor | explain your idea a bit better: change the message box for idle until spawn undelay timer runs out, then revert to normal? |
| 15:05:13 | watusimoto | yes |
| 15:05:20 | raptor | ok |
| 15:05:22 | watusimoto | the intent is the same as what you have now |
| 15:05:30 | watusimoto | let the user know they can't immediately respawn |
| 15:05:43 | watusimoto | but do it in full seconds rather than ms countdown |
| 15:05:50 | raptor | already did that :) |
| 15:05:55 | raptor | i changed that last night... |
| 15:06:00 | watusimoto | ah, well, maybe the task is completely done then |
| 15:06:13 | watusimoto | good thing I didn;t get to it myself, otherwise we would have clobbered each other |
| 15:06:15 | raptor | but the text is the same throughout |
| 15:06:36 | watusimoto | how is the countdown displayed? |
| 15:06:51 | watusimoto | just as a number under the box? |
| 15:06:57 | raptor | 5... 4... 3... 2... 1... |
| 15:07:07 | raptor | in the box, below the text |
| 15:07:17 | watusimoto | there should be some context for that number, no? |
| 15:07:24 | Heyub | Good to know you can still count backwards raptor. |
| 15:07:34 | raptor | har har har... :) |
| 15:07:43 | watusimoto | like "Can rejoin in 5..4..2..3..1.. seconds" |
| 15:07:48 | watusimoto | oops... I can't |
| 15:07:52 | Heyub | LOL |
| 15:08:05 | raptor | watusimoto: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/111111screenshot_0.png |
| 15:09:25 | watusimoto | ok, I think the whole message should be replaced during countdown: CAN RESPAWN IN XX SECONDS. When countdown is complete, it flips over to the current message |
| 15:09:29 | watusimoto | what do you think about that? |
| 15:09:39 | raptor | sure |
| 15:09:52 | watusimoto | kaen can try that |
| 15:10:11 | watusimoto | just to get into the swing of things |
| 15:10:20 | watusimoto | what's the scoop with the teleport? |
| 15:10:37 | raptor | i sent you a late-night e-mail complaining about my problems |
| 15:10:38 | raptor | once |
| 15:11:11 | raptor | basically, i am stuck at being able to adapt the engineer helper menus to dealing with a two-part engineer item |
| 15:12:06 | watusimoto | I saw the email |
| 15:12:14 | watusimoto | ah, I see |
| 15:12:33 | watusimoto | well, I keep meaning to look at your code, and I keep not doing it |
| 15:12:50 | watusimoto | Where do you store the half-engineered teleport? On the ship? |
| 15:12:53 | raptor | i guess my brain has a writer's block on the situation: i haven't been able to see where to start.. |
| 15:13:20 | raptor | it isn't stored anywhere yet |
| 15:13:53 | raptor | well.. it has an owner |
| 15:14:12 | watusimoto | actually, my first idea won't work |
| 15:14:25 | raptor | you should engineer a teleport |
| 15:14:42 | raptor | it places it, detects that it is engineered and draws a circle around the endpoint... |
| 15:14:44 | watusimoto | basically there needs to be some sort of flag the server can set that lets the client know they've completed phase one and are onto pahse 2 |
| 15:15:18 | watusimoto | at that point, the helper menu can transition to part 2 |
| 15:15:58 | watusimoto | or is this just obvious and I've mixed the complexity? |
| 15:16:11 | watusimoto | I probably need to try it and read the code and see what's happening |
| 15:16:39 | raptor | it's complex |
| 15:16:45 | raptor | both client-side and server-side |
| 15:17:44 | raptor | to be honest, it looks like the engineer ability was added as an after thought, not following the normal client-server pathways (whatever those may be..) |
| 15:19:17 | raptor | question: do we have an RPC that gives return codes? or is it only one-way communication? |
| 15:19:59 | raptor | like: c2sDoSomething then returns a true as successful instead of having a separate s2cSomethingHasCOmpleted |
| 15:21:08 | watusimoto | I don;t think so, though there are bidirectional RPCs in TNL. But those are more for creating something that is both c2s and s2c |
| 15:21:38 | watusimoto | you want more a query and response |
| 15:22:01 | watusimoto | and I don't know of any good way to do that without a s2c calling a c2s |
| 15:23:10 | raptor | hmmm ok |
| 15:26:31 | watusimoto | the flow of communication is c->"creating teleport" s->"proceed" c->"placed first bit" s->"ok, proceed" c->"placing last bit" s->"great!" |
| 15:26:56 | watusimoto | with s being able to disrupt the process at any point due to c being killed or intake being destroyed or whatever |
| 15:26:57 | watusimoto | right? |
| 15:27:04 | raptor | correct |
| 15:27:53 | raptor | the thing is we need like 4 more c2s/s2c type protocol pairs... and that seems like a lot for just this one action |
| 15:29:26 | watusimoto | it does |
| 15:30:04 | raptor | every 'x' in 2^x number of RPC protocols increases the total transport overhead by another bit |
| 15:30:06 | watusimoto | what if we just had 1 pair -- a c2sSendEngrStatus(U8) and s2cSendEngrStatus(U8) |
| 15:30:12 | raptor | ^^ that |
| 15:30:14 | watusimoto | and just check the nmber |
| 15:30:20 | raptor | was going to be my next suggestion, too |
| 15:30:37 | raptor | and we can use an enum between them |
| 15:30:50 | watusimoto | but if you're worried about bandwidth, regular messages would be better |
| 15:31:01 | raptor | 'regular messages'? |
| 15:31:09 | watusimoto | here we're sending 8 extra bits just to save 1, possibly |
| 15:31:16 | watusimoto | dedicated s2c and c2s |
| 15:31:28 | watusimoto | = 'regiular messages' in my unclear jargon |
| 15:31:34 | raptor | yes, but that's 8 bits only when someone wants to engineer a teleport vs. the extra 1 on every time a ship moves |
| 15:31:39 | watusimoto | true |
| 15:31:55 | watusimoto | extra bit, or, more likely 0 extra bits |
| 15:31:58 | raptor | i think we are at 6 bits right now: between 32 and 64 protocols |
| 15:32:15 | watusimoto | well, in the context of engineer, it doesn't really matter |
| 15:32:30 | watusimoto | maybe if we need to send/recieve 4 messages we can use a U2 or something |
| 15:32:44 | watusimoto | because we can specify the number of bits when sending an int |
| 15:32:46 | watusimoto | I think |
| 15:32:47 | raptor | does that even exist? |
| 15:32:49 | raptor | oh |
| 15:32:53 | raptor | it does |
| 15:32:54 | watusimoto | U2 does not exit |
| 15:33:05 | raptor | sort of: TNL has a compressed U8 i think |
| 15:33:11 | raptor | somewhere.. |
| 15:33:13 | watusimoto | rangedInt |
| 15:33:19 | watusimoto | rangedInt<0,4> |
| 15:33:24 | watusimoto | or somesuch |
| 15:33:30 | raptor | yeah, that's it |
| 15:33:46 | watusimoto | so we have an enum of our messages, and send with rangeInt<MessageCount> |
| 15:33:58 | watusimoto | we do that elsewhere |
| 15:34:04 | watusimoto | though for different purpose |
| 15:34:20 | raptor | then we only need one protocol on each side |
| 15:34:23 | watusimoto | yes |
| 15:34:37 | watusimoto | c2sSendEngrStatus(U8) and s2cSendEngrStatus(U8) |
| 15:34:43 | watusimoto | except not U8 |
| 15:34:49 | watusimoto | and better names |
| 15:35:00 | watusimoto | but those two fns can have a dialog |
| 15:35:15 | watusimoto | will make the code easier to understand as well |
| 15:35:29 | watusimoto | better than creating 8 different methods all related to one thing |
| 15:35:41 | raptor | ok |
| 15:35:55 | watusimoto | does that help address the issues at all? |
| 15:37:33 | kaen | morning all |
| 15:37:38 | raptor | well, it's a place to start... :) |
| 15:37:55 | raptor | and maybe it'll make the engineer code easier to follow |
| 15:39:08 | kaen | just got through the chat logs; I got my build environment up no sweat last night. I already found the functions I need to poke around in for the core rendering issue (I believe) so I don't think I'm in over my head |
| 15:39:18 | watusimoto | great |
| 15:39:25 | watusimoto | kaen: welcome aboard! |
| 15:39:27 | kaen | I'll let you know if that changes though |
| 15:39:29 | kaen | thanks :) |
| 15:39:35 | raptor | argh... got a meeting... |
| 15:39:38 | watusimoto | we already have another project for you |
| 15:39:41 | watusimoto | later raptor |
| 15:39:46 | kaen | lay it on me |
| 15:39:50 | watusimoto | a really easy one |
| 15:39:51 | raptor | i'll be half-here |
| 15:40:01 | kaen | that count-down? |
| 15:40:49 | watusimoto | looking back in the chat logs to save typing |
| 15:40:56 | watusimoto | yes |
| 15:41:01 | watusimoto | looks like this now: |
| 15:41:02 | watusimoto | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/111111screenshot_0.png |
| 15:41:42 | watusimoto | during the countdown, should be replaced with this: |
| 15:41:48 | watusimoto | CAN RESPAWN IN XX SECONDS. When countdown is complete, it flips over to the current message |
| 15:42:22 | kaen | oh alright. that seem straightforward :) |
| 15:42:38 | kaen | I'm going to eat breakfast and then I'll be on it |
| 15:42:45 | watusimoto | I think this is a pretty trivial project, but will let you get a test run of your environment and start to think about how the code works |
| 15:42:46 | watusimoto | great |
| 15:43:16 | watusimoto | feel free to ask for whatever you need. I'm as friendly as raptor, though less helpful :-) |
| 15:44:20 | raptor | probably friendlier - every time i say to new people in-game, they leave and never come back... |
| 15:44:27 | raptor | *say 'hi' |
| 16:23:55 | raptor | bonkers |
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| 17:16:22 | kaen | raptor I've got a patch for that respawn message |
| 17:16:35 | kaen | am I just waiting for watu now? |
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| 17:25:54 | kaen | Watusimoto, how should I submit my changes to you? |
| 17:26:15 | Watusimoto | done already? |
| 17:26:34 | Watusimoto | as to your question... |
| 17:27:00 | Watusimoto | trying to remember how we did this when Sam was starting |
| 17:27:12 | Watusimoto | raptor: are you around? |
| 17:29:00 | Watusimoto | Hg has some good tools for this sort of thing, and unfortunately they've all failed every time we've tried to use them :-) |
| 17:29:16 | kaen | heh |
| 17:29:23 | Watusimoto | for the moment, why not email me a diff, and I'll see if I can use that |
| 17:29:27 | kaen | sounds good |
| 17:29:41 | Watusimoto | if I wasn't on this stupid internet connection, i could set up a hg server that you could commit to |
| 17:29:49 | Watusimoto | it's pretty cool, if only it worked |
| 17:29:59 | kaen | yeah I was reading about that |
| 17:30:04 | Watusimoto | email addr is watusimoto at bitfighter dot org |
| 17:30:17 | Watusimoto | I want to try using it; or rather using it again |
| 17:31:24 | kaen | sent |
| 17:31:34 | Watusimoto | I'mm looking to see if there's a cooler way |
| 17:32:23 | kaen | the patch is only for the first problem. changing the message, that is |
| 17:32:42 | kaen | you mentioned something about waiting after the death animation? |
| 17:34:09 | Watusimoto | the issue I was having last night was that when you go into idle mode, the screen should be black except for the message. I was seeing sparks and a few other things on top of the screen. |
| 17:34:29 | kaen | yeah |
| 17:34:31 | Watusimoto | of course I was half asleep, so it could have been a hallucination |
| 17:34:37 | kaen | I was noticing that while I was playing around just now |
| 17:35:09 | kaen | so I'll do that next probably? |
| 17:35:15 | Watusimoto | that looks like an extensive bit of code :-) |
| 17:35:23 | Watusimoto | if all else fails, I can retype it! |
| 17:36:02 | kaen | which code? |
| 17:36:41 | Watusimoto | the code you just sent me |
| 17:36:59 | raptor | hi |
| 17:37:04 | | raptor reads |
| 17:37:08 | kaen | :o |
| 17:37:19 | raptor | kaen: do you have a server-side clone? |
| 17:37:28 | kaen | I changed ~10 lines |
| 17:37:43 | kaen | raptor, you mean like 'make dedicated' ? |
| 17:37:47 | raptor | http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/clones |
| 17:38:00 | raptor | similar to a git fork |
| 17:38:17 | kaen | oh! |
| 17:38:21 | kaen | awesome |
| 17:38:24 | raptor | create a clone, work on that, commit and push your changes, then I can pull directly :) |
| 17:40:01 | raptor | sorry about the confusion |
| 17:40:31 | kaen | no trouble at all :) |
| 17:41:47 | Watusimoto | raptor: what should I do with my diff? I feel so helpless on this system |
| 17:42:02 | raptor | uhhh... wait for kaen to commit to his clone, then we can pull from it? |
| 17:42:07 | Watusimoto | I think I went through this when sam signed on at first... |
| 17:42:14 | Watusimoto | and I think we went the clone route |
| 17:42:16 | Watusimoto | in the end |
| 17:42:31 | kaen | I'm getting 502s when I try to make the clone :/ |
| 17:42:36 | raptor | what |
| 17:42:53 | raptor | kaen: you have a google code account? |
| 17:42:56 | kaen | 502 errors. but it went through this time |
| 17:43:00 | raptor | oh good |
| 17:43:04 | kaen | I do now :P |
| 17:43:29 | Watusimoto | seems we should also be able to solve this with patches |
| 17:43:39 | Watusimoto | if it weren't already solved, that is |
| 17:43:46 | raptor | Watusimoto: i import patches all the time... is there not a way with your client? |
| 17:43:59 | Watusimoto | import them into what? |
| 17:44:03 | raptor | i know sam686 has done it plenty of times with unstable patches i've asked him to import |
| 17:44:13 | Watusimoto | import them via mercurial? |
| 17:44:15 | raptor | tortoiseHG or whatever |
| 17:44:17 | raptor | yes |
| 17:44:26 | Watusimoto | I'm looking.... it should be doable |
| 17:44:52 | raptor | kaen: you can change your current repository to point to your clone by editing the .hg/hgrc file found in it |
| 17:45:00 | raptor | instead of redownloading the whole thing |
| 17:45:20 | kaen | oh, that's useful |
| 17:46:18 | raptor | im sure there's an hg command to change the upstream location... i know git had one.. |
| 17:46:39 | raptor | but i don't know it, so i just edit the fiel |
| 17:46:42 | raptor | *file |
| 17:47:41 | Watusimoto | holy crap! it worked! |
| 17:47:58 | Watusimoto | there's an Import command I never looked at before |
| 17:48:09 | Watusimoto | it read the diff off my clipboard |
| 17:48:15 | Watusimoto | then went to sleep for 10 minutes |
| 17:48:25 | Watusimoto | then created a commit with the changes |
| 17:49:01 | Watusimoto | I'll test it then push it. |
| 17:49:02 | | raptor welcomes Watusimoto to the world of standard linux utilities |
| 17:49:10 | raptor | wait |
| 17:49:11 | kaen | lol |
| 17:49:17 | raptor | wait wait |
| 17:49:23 | Watusimoto | I am waiting |
| 17:49:25 | raptor | Watusimoto: let me pull from kaen's clone |
| 17:49:27 | raptor | instead |
| 17:49:33 | raptor | so we have it all set up |
| 17:49:35 | Watusimoto | no worries |
| 17:49:49 | Watusimoto | I can test it then... what? roll back or something |
| 17:49:56 | raptor | haha, sure |
| 17:49:58 | Watusimoto | I will not push this |
| 17:50:01 | kaen | I have to do the hg config real quick |
| 17:52:12 | Watusimoto | kaen, a quick suggestion: I think it might be better if the bottom line of text said "IN XX SECONDS" rather than just "IN" :-) |
| 17:52:58 | kaen | no problem |
| 17:53:10 | Watusimoto | also, to everyone, I think the user should be able to press <esc> while this screen is up |
| 17:53:20 | Watusimoto | and access the menus |
| 17:53:23 | raptor | they can't? |
| 17:53:55 | Watusimoto | no - normally it isn't a problem -- you press esc and are dumped back into the game, and then press esc again and get a menu |
| 17:54:10 | raptor | ghuh |
| 17:54:20 | Watusimoto | Maybe the problem is the way I architected this in the first place |
| 17:54:29 | Watusimoto | extending the error box UI or whatever I did |
| 17:55:06 | Watusimoto | maybe it should just be an opaque black overlay in the game or something that does not disable menu access |
| 17:56:13 | Watusimoto | test : watusimoto |
| 17:57:06 | raptor | !watusimoto |
| 17:57:06 | BFLogBot | Supreme Overlord |
| 17:57:12 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 17:57:23 | Watusimoto | I'm showing my son how IRC works |
| 17:57:44 | Watusimoto | !raptor |
| 17:57:50 | Watusimoto | !watusimoto |
| 17:57:50 | BFLogBot | Supreme Overlord |
| 17:57:56 | raptor | uh oh - next thing you know, he'll have turned your pc into a darknet node |
| 17:58:07 | Watusimoto | maybe already done |
| 17:58:17 | Watusimoto | !sam686 |
| 17:58:22 | raptor | !commands |
| 17:58:22 | BFLogBot | Commands: airlock bbb bitfighter bot bug bugs dedicated feature help hg log log logs mercurial ninja watusimoto |
| 17:58:38 | Watusimoto | !ninja |
| 17:58:38 | BFLogBot | ninjas die in space |
| 17:59:07 | Watusimoto | !airlock |
| 17:59:07 | BFLogBot | the bestest level EVAR!!1 |
| 17:59:11 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 17:59:22 | raptor | there's an INI that controls those that the logbot reads |
| 18:06:35 | - *raptor* !command | *raptor* !commands |
| 18:06:42 | - *raptor* !sam68 | *raptor* !sam686 |
| 18:06:48 | - *raptor* bflogbo | *raptor* bflogbot |
| 18:10:24 | raptor | !sam686 |
| 18:10:24 | BFLogBot | Master Bughunter |
| 18:13:34 | Watusimoto | !sam686 |
| 18:13:34 | BFLogBot | Master Bughunter |
| 18:13:38 | Watusimoto | yay! |
| 18:13:48 | raptor | i thought i'd add something for him... |
| 18:14:55 | raptor | kaen: you can add this line in the <project>/.hg/hgrc under [paths]: |
| 18:15:02 | raptor | upstream = https://bitfighter.googlecode.com/hg/ |
| 18:15:25 | kaen | ah, alright |
| 18:15:38 | kaen | I'm having a pain trying to push to my clone :x |
| 18:15:45 | kaen | it doesn't like my credentials apparently |
| 18:15:45 | raptor | then just: 'hg pull upstream' to grab the latest if needed |
| 18:15:50 | kaen | got it |
| 18:16:00 | raptor | oh! they auto-generate creds for you |
| 18:16:10 | raptor | go to your google code home page |
| 18:17:09 | raptor | it's your 'Profile' under the 'Settings' tab |
| 18:17:52 | kaen | \o/ |
| 18:18:02 | kaen | I always forget to read italics :P |
| 18:18:12 | raptor | heh |
| 18:18:26 | kaen | hey, when I'm building that string, should I use "in" + time + "seconds" ? |
| 18:18:33 | kaen | or is the like an sprintf for c++ strings? |
| 18:18:41 | kaen | is there* |
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| 18:18:46 | | BFLogBot - Commit 231251ed8ff4 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Update the message when /idle... First commit from kaen |
| 18:18:48 | | BFLogBot - Commit 1fe373f56a65 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Backed out changeset: 231251ed8ff4 |
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| 18:19:11 | raptor | ummm |
| 18:19:27 | raptor | Watusimoto? question from kaen ^^ |
| 18:20:27 | raptor | i know the printf works in c++ just fine, as well, but i'm always messing up with using the 'string' class in c++ |
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| 18:20:47 | raptor | come back! |
| 18:20:58 | raptor | kaen: i'll pull your changes now.. |
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| 18:21:20 | kaen | the suspense is killing me |
| 18:24:16 | raptor | looks good! |
| 18:24:40 | kaen | I'm glad lol |
| 18:25:26 | kaen | I love this code, btw |
| 18:25:44 | | raptor cannot tell if sarcasm is being lost over IRC... |
| 18:26:01 | kaen | I do :) |
| 18:27:18 | raptor | you even used 3 spaces! |
| 18:27:22 | raptor | as indentation |
| 18:27:37 | raptor | and opening/closing brakets on the same vertical! |
| 18:27:46 | kaen | I submitted tabs to watu :x |
| 18:27:51 | kaen | and } else { |
| 18:28:02 | kaen | before I realized what I was doing |
| 18:28:06 | raptor | haha |
| 18:28:21 | raptor | it took me a couple months of Watusimoto fixing my braces before I conformed... |
| 18:28:26 | kaen | lol yeah |
| 18:28:39 | kaen | I'm a function () { type of guy |
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| 18:28:56 | | BFLogBot - Commit 7ddff4c829f7 | Author: kaen | Log: 'can respawn in' -> 'can respawn in XX seconds' |
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| 18:29:10 | raptor | tada! |
| 18:29:21 | | kaen hums FF7 end battle tune |
| 18:29:35 | kaen | end of* |
| 18:30:00 | raptor | i am culturally deficient... i haven't ever played any final fantasy games... |
| 18:30:07 | | raptor goes to look up the song |
| 18:31:04 | kaen | lol it's not that great |
| 18:31:52 | kaen | I'll be back shortly |
| 18:31:58 | raptor | have you put in the 'upstream' line? |
| 18:32:17 | raptor | ok |
| 18:41:06 | raptor | Watusimoto: kaen has contributed! |
| 18:41:16 | raptor | this probably means i need to give himt he dev badge... |
| 18:42:11 | raptor | kaen: are you a registered user? |
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| 18:53:18 | kaen | erm, no :x |
| 18:53:34 | raptor | ok, well, if you do register you get: |
| 18:53:40 | raptor | 1. shiney underline in-game |
| 18:53:58 | raptor | 2. the dev badge (now that you've contributed) |
| 18:55:57 | kaen | oh cool :) |
| 18:56:03 | kaen | I'm registered now |
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| 19:00:17 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 19:00:30 | kaen | ahoy |
| 19:00:36 | raptor | hi |
| 19:01:54 | Little_Apple | yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo |
| 19:02:27 | kaen | I think I'm going to give codelite a spin |
| 19:02:35 | raptor | what were you using before? |
| 19:02:47 | kaen | I used vim for this one |
| 19:02:53 | kaen | since it was like 12 lines |
| 19:02:57 | raptor | ha |
| 19:02:59 | raptor | cool |
| 19:03:09 | kaen | but for the core thing I want to be able have tabs |
| 19:03:15 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 19:03:18 | kaen | rather than 3-4 split views in vim |
| 19:04:15 | raptor | well, you got the badge now... i think. so next time you authenticate in-game, take a look at the scoreboard in a level |
| 19:05:11 | kaen | haha I love that badge |
| 19:54:27 | raptor | brb |
| 20:28:17 | Watusimoto | back for the moment |
| 20:30:09 | raptor | hi |
| 20:34:01 | kaen | bah. I can't get codelite's debugger to obey my breakpoints |
| 20:34:11 | kaen | works fine in gdb from the command line though |
| 20:34:14 | raptor | really? |
| 20:34:21 | raptor | i got it to work somehow... |
| 20:34:28 | kaen | yeah. I set the breakpoint, doesn't trip :/ |
| 20:34:39 | raptor | i think i went to the project settings and had to select the debugger as gdb or somethine |
| 20:34:40 | kaen | sounds like user error then |
| 20:34:46 | kaen | that's set |
| 20:34:58 | kaen | gdb even fires up and accepts commands |
| 20:35:06 | kaen | (in code lite) |
| 20:35:08 | raptor | huh |
| 20:35:21 | raptor | which rpm did you use? the newest 4.0...? |
| 20:35:24 | kaen | yeah |
| 20:35:30 | raptor | hmm... me too |
| 20:40:08 | Watusimoto | are you sure the breakpoint should be hit? |
| 20:40:21 | Watusimoto | there are some subtlities to the code which are not apparent |
| 20:40:50 | Watusimoto | put one in main() and see if it gets hit on startup |
| 20:40:55 | kaen | I'm setting the same breakpoint in both the CLI and code lite, only the CLI trips |
| 20:40:57 | kaen | alright |
| 20:41:00 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 20:41:08 | Little_Apple | BYE |
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| 20:41:11 | Watusimoto | I ask only because I've learned some hard lessons :-) |
| 20:41:17 | raptor | Little_Apple: bye |
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| 20:43:11 | kaen | nope, still isn't tripping |
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| 20:44:28 | kaen | w.t.f. |
| 20:44:39 | kaen | gdb interface in code lite shows the breakpoint as active |
| 20:45:37 | raptor | maybe... |
| 20:45:40 | raptor | um... |
| 20:45:49 | raptor | press f5 again? |
| 20:46:15 | kaen | weird. it was debugging the wrong exe |
| 20:46:33 | kaen | I'm going out for a while, I'll be back later |
| 20:46:48 | raptor | later |
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| 22:04:29 | sam686 | i think i found an annoying problem, energy don't recharge faster when idling, when holding down fire button attemting to place mines but out of energy |
| 22:07:37 | raptor | ok, i'll add to bug lsit |
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| 23:15:26 | raptor | going home! |
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| 23:55:47 | Watusimoto | night |
| 23:56:07 | raptor | night |
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