#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-07-12

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00:01:55 Watusimoto I had a couple of thoughts about Android networking
00:02:12 Watusimoto BF uses UDP, whereas you tested networking with TCP
00:02:17 raptor i wonder if it's completely firewalled..  although DNS can be queried
00:02:19 Watusimoto so that might be one issue
00:02:24 raptor and i can get to websites..
00:02:30 Watusimoto that was my other thought
00:02:39 Watusimoto that maybe there's an app-level firewall
00:02:40 raptor but no ping returns
00:02:49 Watusimoto that allows the browser, but denies BF
00:02:55 raptor hmm
00:03:01 Watusimoto browswer might be whitelisted
00:03:06 raptor hmm...
00:03:14 raptor brb, food time
00:03:16 Watusimoto we need a way to test UDP from a separate app
00:03:27 raptor yeah,  ooo,  tnlping
00:04:35 Watusimoto but it seems that tnl should work if udp works
00:04:47 Watusimoto but we don't know if udp works
00:14:57 BFLogBot - Commit 1d9ace832faa | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Kind of hacky fix (finally!) to enum/namespace/link problems related to -luadoc option
00:14:58 BFLogBot - Commit 959da1e7f3d2 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge
00:20:00 BFLogBot - Commit d8b697653420 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clarify a tad
00:25:02 BFLogBot - Commit c29e6a3bacc3 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clarify a tad more
00:25:04 BFLogBot - Commit 1fe47b431fdb | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clarify a tad more
00:25:05 Watusimoto not sure if these latest changes are any good
00:25:05 BFLogBot - Commit 641c360ad672 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Whitespace
00:25:07 BFLogBot - Commit 6c3e069911db | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Whitespace
00:25:08 BFLogBot - Commit a49159c50ab8 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Whitespace
00:25:10 BFLogBot - Commit e9a072988405 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clarify a tad more
00:25:11 BFLogBot - Commit b6d921f2246c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clarify a tad more (yes, even more)
00:25:15 raptor back!
00:27:49 raptor that's a lot of whitespace commits
00:28:03 raptor oh look, they're all to my evil code changes
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00:34:31 Watusimoto the code looked good, which is why I didn't change anything
00:35:01 Watusimoto ok, bed time
00:35:02 raptor :)
00:35:05 raptor night!
00:35:09 Watusimoto later
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03:04:37 raptor ok ok
03:04:43 raptor i'm avoiding homework
03:04:46 raptor what should i do?
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03:09:41 raptor hi
03:09:43 raptor you found me
03:10:31 dajoker you can run but you cannot hide.
03:10:43 dajoker IT folks clear out files irrationally at the top of the hour.
03:10:46 raptor i tried..  i have obviously failed
03:10:58 raptor what?
03:11:05 dajoker The XML file is not there.
03:11:10 raptor noooo
03:11:22 raptor barlgh
03:11:27 raptor ok i re-upload...
03:11:30 dajoker thx
03:12:31 raptor really?  every hour?
03:12:49 dajoker top of, yes.  You're welcome to drop it in /incoming if you'd prefer.  I think it's still cleaned, but no VPN requirement for you.
03:13:40 dajoker b/c XML files are vewy scawy... vewy dan-ju-wus
03:13:43 raptor also, did you change the port to 8081 on purpose?
03:13:59 dajoker yes... 8080 is used by Tomcat which, so far, I cannot (or really should not) move.
03:15:14 raptor ok i put it back
03:15:16 dajoker see it
03:15:22 raptor you'll have to redeploy the EAR
03:15:32 raptor also - maybe we should talk in a less public channel?
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04:56:01 raptor Bitfighter sam686 is down...
05:07:58 raptor FYI:  Rinzler is an old player who went by the name of Drex.  He slaughtered me
05:08:11 raptor ctf game 7 to 0
05:09:18 raptor also, my stats were not sent to the server
05:09:54 raptor it's the latest game here with Rinzler:  http://www.bitfighter.org/stats/gamereports.php
05:11:33 sam686 ok
05:13:07 raptor 6 to 0
05:17:43 raptor i have no idea why my stats weren't sent
05:17:50 raptor maybe because I was at zero?
05:17:58 raptor there not in the database either
05:24:28 sam686 maybe either you didn't finish the game, or you left without finishing the game?
05:24:44 raptor we started a new game and was there for about a minute
05:24:56 raptor although i was typing something when we switched levels
05:25:35 sam686 switching levels doesn't add to game stats (unless it is a vote to change levels)
05:25:42 raptor kaen: you don't have a default robot set for your server.  i couldn't summon an s_bot to save me from Rinzler
05:25:49 raptor the level ended
05:25:54 raptor time ran out
05:26:20 sam686 which server was it in?
05:26:25 raptor it was on kaen's
05:32:38 sam686 looking at master log, it seems like Rinzler was "486" (same IP address), and I remembered seeing 486 user as being very good (and hard to beat)
05:32:50 raptor he was waaay hard
06:10:39 BFLogBot - Commit 391aeefc3019 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Enable internet for android.  Can connect to master now, but crashes when trying to retrieve high scores..
06:26:10 raptor well good night..
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14:21:57 Little_Apple helloo
14:30:03 Little_Apple fart fart fart
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15:25:35 raptor looks like i missed the flatulence of Little_Apple
15:45:29 watusimoto bummer
15:45:38 raptor yeah, what a sad day
16:03:17 raptor so android port can connect to master now
16:04:12 raptor also the game actually started up on my archos 101 tablet
16:04:17 raptor and it was smooth
16:04:22 raptor the text was quite ugly
16:04:32 raptor but it rendered fast
16:15:13 watusimoto fantastic!!
16:15:26 watusimoto so maybe an emulator networking issue?
16:15:34 raptor no, it works in the emulator
16:15:59 raptor basically, on android, any non-UI resource must be given explicit permissions in the package manifest
16:16:15 watusimoto ah, so a packaging issue
16:16:26 raptor all i had to do was add one line to the XML:  <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET" />
16:16:32 raptor yep
16:16:40 watusimoto so connects to master... can it join a game?
16:16:45 watusimoto and... play??
16:16:52 raptor haven't tried...  should try now...
16:17:03 watusimoto you DID NOT TRY?????
16:17:12 watusimoto how could you connect to master and not try playing???
16:17:17 watusimoto ARE YOU NUTS?!??!
16:17:17 raptor i had loads of homework and was sleepy
16:17:23 raptor veeeery sleepy
16:17:32 watusimoto you could not be that sleepy
16:17:32 raptor didn't even cross my mind..  i just tried the highscores  :/
16:17:36 watusimoto ha
16:17:57 watusimoto well if it works, I might need to get my hands on an android device
16:18:04 watusimoto because this could be huge
16:18:13 watusimoto the best thing since you fixed the mac crashes
16:18:26 raptor haha
16:19:27 raptor was that really a huge deal? (had it been going on for a while?)
16:20:01 watusimoto yes
16:20:04 watusimoto it was a big deal
16:20:09 watusimoto my #1 critical issue
16:20:11 raptor that was before i knew c++!
16:20:12 watusimoto and I couldn't fix it
16:20:29 watusimoto well, I'm still greatful!
16:20:57 raptor well - it helps to have a professional version of VMware, hacked to run MacOS X
16:21:07 watusimoto yes, or a mac
16:21:27 watusimoto I did spend some time on a friend's mac, but couldn't reproduce
16:22:41 raptor yeah, remember the old tutorial level?
16:22:52 raptor with those testitems around barriers
16:23:21 raptor i found that to get the audio system to crash it you just had to push the ship against it one of those and count to 3
16:32:13 raptor huh - internet isn't working on this emulator
16:32:25 raptor what did i do...
16:36:44 watusimoto I remember
16:39:14 raptor well, i can see my game in the list, but i can't select it
16:39:24 raptor right arrow doesn't work
16:39:44 raptor hmmm.... how to press <enter>
16:51:18 watusimoto gotta run... later
16:51:23 watusimoto good luck!! ;-)
16:54:46 raptor http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/111snapshot13.png
16:54:53 raptor can't go further yet :(
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17:28:19 Little_Apple helloo
17:28:30 raptor hi
17:28:56 Little_Apple whatcha doin?
17:29:17 raptor i'll give you one (1) guess
17:29:30 Little_Apple ?
17:29:35 raptor false
17:29:53 Little_Apple working?
17:31:05 raptor you win!
17:31:08 raptor applauds
17:31:12 Little_Apple lol
17:31:17 raptor spells words wrong
17:31:30 Little_Apple whatcha workin on?
17:31:54 raptor hard to explain, but it has to do with burning discs for distribution
17:32:07 Little_Apple oh ok
17:32:12 Little_Apple so malware?
17:32:17 Little_Apple :3
17:33:22 raptor ha
17:33:29 raptor no - that would be fun
17:33:35 Little_Apple lol
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17:44:57 raptor hi
17:53:37 Little_Apple bye
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22:12:38 BFLogBot - Commit 0598bfabceb4 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Add some new types to lua arg checking
22:12:40 BFLogBot - Commit 6700212a274a | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Correct return values
22:12:41 BFLogBot - Commit e3bc58defd95 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Added setHealth methods to Lua interface for EngineeredItems (takes val btwn 0 and 1) and CoreItem (sets initial health, takes val > 0)
22:47:46 BFLogBot - Commit ce6f765d9204 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Added setHealth methods to Lua interface for EngineeredItems (takes val btwn 0 and 1) and CoreItem (sets initial health, takes val > 0), add setTeam to all objects
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00:01:55	Watusimoto	I had a couple of thoughts about Android networking
00:02:12	Watusimoto	BF uses UDP, whereas you tested networking with TCP
00:02:17	raptor	i wonder if it's completely firewalled.. although DNS can be queried
00:02:19	Watusimoto	so that might be one issue
00:02:24	raptor	and i can get to websites..
00:02:30	Watusimoto	that was my other thought
00:02:39	Watusimoto	that maybe there's an app-level firewall
00:02:40	raptor	but no ping returns
00:02:49	Watusimoto	that allows the browser, but denies BF
00:02:55	raptor	hmm
00:03:01	Watusimoto	browswer might be whitelisted
00:03:06	raptor	hmm...
00:03:14	raptor	brb, food time
00:03:16	Watusimoto	we need a way to test UDP from a separate app
00:03:27	raptor	yeah, ooo, tnlping
00:04:35	Watusimoto	but it seems that tnl should work if udp works
00:04:47	Watusimoto	but we don't know if udp works
00:14:57		BFLogBot - Commit 1d9ace832faa \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Kind of hacky fix (finally!) to enum/namespace/link problems related to -luadoc option
00:14:58		BFLogBot - Commit 959da1e7f3d2 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Merge
00:20:00		BFLogBot - Commit d8b697653420 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Clarify a tad
00:25:02		BFLogBot - Commit c29e6a3bacc3 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Clarify a tad more
00:25:04		BFLogBot - Commit 1fe47b431fdb \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Clarify a tad more
00:25:05	Watusimoto	not sure if these latest changes are any good
00:25:05		BFLogBot - Commit 641c360ad672 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Whitespace
00:25:07		BFLogBot - Commit 6c3e069911db \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Whitespace
00:25:08		BFLogBot - Commit a49159c50ab8 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Whitespace
00:25:10		BFLogBot - Commit e9a072988405 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Clarify a tad more
00:25:11		BFLogBot - Commit b6d921f2246c \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Clarify a tad more (yes, even more)
00:25:15	raptor	back!
00:27:49	raptor	that's a lot of whitespace commits
00:28:03	raptor	oh look, they're all to my evil code changes
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00:34:31	Watusimoto	the code looked good, which is why I didn't change anything
00:35:01	Watusimoto	ok, bed time
00:35:02	raptor	:)
00:35:05	raptor	night!
00:35:09	Watusimoto	later
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03:04:37	raptor	ok ok
03:04:43	raptor	i'm avoiding homework
03:04:46	raptor	what should i do?
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03:09:41	raptor	hi
03:09:43	raptor	you found me
03:10:31	dajoker	you can run but you cannot hide.
03:10:43	dajoker	IT folks clear out files irrationally at the top of the hour.
03:10:46	raptor	i tried.. i have obviously failed
03:10:58	raptor	what?
03:11:05	dajoker	The XML file is not there.
03:11:10	raptor	noooo
03:11:22	raptor	barlgh
03:11:27	raptor	ok i re-upload...
03:11:30	dajoker	thx
03:12:31	raptor	really? every hour?
03:12:49	dajoker	top of, yes. You're welcome to drop it in /incoming if you'd prefer. I think it's still cleaned, but no VPN requirement for you.
03:13:40	dajoker	b/c XML files are vewy scawy... vewy dan-ju-wus
03:13:43	raptor	also, did you change the port to 8081 on purpose?
03:13:59	dajoker	yes... 8080 is used by Tomcat which, so far, I cannot (or really should not) move.
03:15:14	raptor	ok i put it back
03:15:16	dajoker	see it
03:15:22	raptor	you'll have to redeploy the EAR
03:15:32	raptor	also - maybe we should talk in a less public channel?
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04:56:01	raptor	Bitfighter sam686 is down...
05:07:58	raptor	FYI: Rinzler is an old player who went by the name of Drex. He slaughtered me
05:08:11	raptor	ctf game 7 to 0
05:09:18	raptor	also, my stats were not sent to the server
05:09:54	raptor	it's the latest game here with Rinzler: http://www.bitfighter.org/stats/gamereports.php
05:11:33	sam686	ok
05:13:07	raptor	6 to 0
05:17:43	raptor	i have no idea why my stats weren't sent
05:17:50	raptor	maybe because I was at zero?
05:17:58	raptor	there not in the database either
05:24:28	sam686	maybe either you didn't finish the game, or you left without finishing the game?
05:24:44	raptor	we started a new game and was there for about a minute
05:24:56	raptor	although i was typing something when we switched levels
05:25:35	sam686	switching levels doesn't add to game stats (unless it is a vote to change levels)
05:25:42	raptor	kaen: you don't have a default robot set for your server. i couldn't summon an s_bot to save me from Rinzler
05:25:49	raptor	the level ended
05:25:54	raptor	time ran out
05:26:20	sam686	which server was it in?
05:26:25	raptor	it was on kaen's
05:32:38	sam686	looking at master log, it seems like Rinzler was "486" (same IP address), and I remembered seeing 486 user as being very good (and hard to beat)
05:32:50	raptor	he was waaay hard
06:10:39		BFLogBot - Commit 391aeefc3019 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Enable internet for android. Can connect to master now, but crashes when trying to retrieve high scores..
06:26:10	raptor	well good night..
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14:21:57	Little_Apple	helloo
14:30:03	Little_Apple	fart fart fart
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15:25:35	raptor	looks like i missed the flatulence of Little_Apple
15:45:29	watusimoto	bummer
15:45:38	raptor	yeah, what a sad day
16:03:17	raptor	so android port can connect to master now
16:04:12	raptor	also the game actually started up on my archos 101 tablet
16:04:17	raptor	and it was smooth
16:04:22	raptor	the text was quite ugly
16:04:32	raptor	but it rendered fast
16:15:13	watusimoto	fantastic!!
16:15:26	watusimoto	so maybe an emulator networking issue?
16:15:34	raptor	no, it works in the emulator
16:15:59	raptor	basically, on android, any non-UI resource must be given explicit permissions in the package manifest
16:16:15	watusimoto	ah, so a packaging issue
16:16:26	raptor	all i had to do was add one line to the XML: <uses-permission android:name="android.permission.INTERNET" />
16:16:32	raptor	yep
16:16:40	watusimoto	so connects to master... can it join a game?
16:16:45	watusimoto	and... play??
16:16:52	raptor	haven't tried... should try now...
16:17:03	watusimoto	you DID NOT TRY?????
16:17:12	watusimoto	how could you connect to master and not try playing???
16:17:17	watusimoto	ARE YOU NUTS?!??!
16:17:17	raptor	i had loads of homework and was sleepy
16:17:23	raptor	veeeery sleepy
16:17:32	watusimoto	you could not be that sleepy
16:17:32	raptor	didn't even cross my mind.. i just tried the highscores :/
16:17:36	watusimoto	ha
16:17:57	watusimoto	well if it works, I might need to get my hands on an android device
16:18:04	watusimoto	because this could be huge
16:18:13	watusimoto	the best thing since you fixed the mac crashes
16:18:26	raptor	haha
16:19:27	raptor	was that really a huge deal? (had it been going on for a while?)
16:20:01	watusimoto	yes
16:20:04	watusimoto	it was a big deal
16:20:09	watusimoto	my #1 critical issue
16:20:11	raptor	that was before i knew c++!
16:20:12	watusimoto	and I couldn't fix it
16:20:29	watusimoto	well, I'm still greatful!
16:20:57	raptor	well - it helps to have a professional version of VMware, hacked to run MacOS X
16:21:07	watusimoto	yes, or a mac
16:21:27	watusimoto	I did spend some time on a friend's mac, but couldn't reproduce
16:22:41	raptor	yeah, remember the old tutorial level?
16:22:52	raptor	with those testitems around barriers
16:23:21	raptor	i found that to get the audio system to crash it you just had to push the ship against it one of those and count to 3
16:32:13	raptor	huh - internet isn't working on this emulator
16:32:25	raptor	what did i do...
16:36:44	watusimoto	I remember
16:39:14	raptor	well, i can see my game in the list, but i can't select it
16:39:24	raptor	right arrow doesn't work
16:39:44	raptor	hmmm.... how to press <enter>
16:51:18	watusimoto	gotta run... later
16:51:23	watusimoto	good luck!! ;-)
16:54:46	raptor	http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/111snapshot13.png
16:54:53	raptor	can't go further yet :(
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17:28:19	Little_Apple	helloo
17:28:30	raptor	hi
17:28:56	Little_Apple	whatcha doin?
17:29:17	raptor	i'll give you one (1) guess
17:29:30	Little_Apple	?
17:29:35	raptor	false
17:29:53	Little_Apple	working?
17:31:05	raptor	you win!
17:31:08		raptor applauds
17:31:12	Little_Apple	lol
17:31:17		raptor spells words wrong
17:31:30	Little_Apple	whatcha workin on?
17:31:54	raptor	hard to explain, but it has to do with burning discs for distribution
17:32:07	Little_Apple	oh ok
17:32:12	Little_Apple	so malware?
17:32:17	Little_Apple	:3
17:33:22	raptor	ha
17:33:29	raptor	no - that would be fun
17:33:35	Little_Apple	lol
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17:42:38	Little_Apple	yo
17:44:57	raptor	hi
17:53:37	Little_Apple	bye
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22:12:38		BFLogBot - Commit 0598bfabceb4 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Add some new types to lua arg checking
22:12:40		BFLogBot - Commit 6700212a274a \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Correct return values
22:12:41		BFLogBot - Commit e3bc58defd95 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Added setHealth methods to Lua interface for EngineeredItems (takes val btwn 0 and 1) and CoreItem (sets initial health, takes val > 0)
22:47:46		BFLogBot - Commit ce6f765d9204 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Added setHealth methods to Lua interface for EngineeredItems (takes val btwn 0 and 1) and CoreItem (sets initial health, takes val > 0), add setTeam to all objects
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