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IRC Log for 2012-08-04

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01:14:15raptor has joined
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01:14:57heyubHello raptor
01:15:04raptorhello!
01:15:34heyubWhat are you up to?
01:16:05raptorI am reading Machiavelli and pondering how on earth i'm going to find video of the judo olympic matches
01:16:28heyubCool, I'm trying to write a poem.
01:16:41raptorok, actually, i'm taking a break from all that...
01:16:54heyubhaha
01:17:12raptora peom?
01:17:16raptorfor liesure?
01:17:22heyubFor school lol
01:17:23raptor*leisure
01:17:26raptorah
01:17:32heyubI aint a poet D:
01:17:33raptorsee that's why i'm readin Machiavelli, too...
01:17:58heyubI have a friend helping me
01:18:14raptori've always been good a rhyme, but not verse
01:18:17heyubWho writes poems for leisure
01:18:25heyubI'm good at neither lol
01:18:27raptori used to in first grade...
01:18:37raptormaybe it was 3rd
01:18:40heyubI got 8 of ten lines
01:18:45raptorha
01:18:46heyuberr twelve
01:18:53heyubI think its twelve...
01:19:23raptorhttp://thinkzone.wlonk.com/PoemGen/PoemGen.htm
01:19:29raptorlooks complicated...
01:20:16heyub0.0 oh mother
01:58:16heyubI'll be a dual enrolment student on the 29th
02:11:52raptorwhich majors?
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02:34:27heyubsoftware engineering
02:35:42heyubWhat else? :P
03:00:21raptoranother bitfighter dev in training! :)
03:02:09heyublol maybe...
03:06:44heyubOff to bed with me... just wanted to let you know it will be a very long time before you see me again, if you do see me again.
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03:06:57raptorbye!
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14:07:34Topic is 'Bitfighter 017b released! | http://www.bitfighter.org/downloads'
14:07:34Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Wed Jul 04 01:46:09 GMT 2012
14:07:34-ChanServ- [#bitfighter] Welcome to #bitfighter. This is an IRC channel, many or all of the users may not be paying attention. Please have patience when waiting for a response.
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17:48:52raptorhi sam686
17:49:20Watusimoto has joined
17:50:06raptorWatusimoto. you're back! maybe?
17:50:55Watusimotohello?
17:51:00Watusimotoam I connected?
17:51:04raptorhello
17:51:08Watusimotoholy cow, I am!
17:51:09raptorcan you see me?
17:51:12Watusimotoyes, I'm back
17:51:32WatusimotoI was having all sorts of network troubles; turns out I forgot to plug in my modem
17:51:39WatusimotoI unplugged everything before I left
17:51:44raptorheh
17:51:48Watusimotojoy
17:51:53Watusimotooh the joy
17:52:07raptorof internet?
17:52:18Watusimoto214 new mail messages -- that's not too bad
17:52:26raptoror frozen pipes?
17:52:31raptorwait, wrong time of year
17:53:34WatusimotoI'm in an apartment
17:53:39Watusimotono frozen pipes here
18:01:13raptori haven't worked on too much with bitfighter - i'm finishing up my semester
18:01:29raptorstill have to finish Machiavelli's 'The Prince' and take an exam
18:02:05WatusimotoI've never read it, but the concepts are interesting.
18:03:34raptorit's very refreshing to read the cold-hearted, objective, and analytical honesty with which it is written
18:04:27WatusimotoI'll bet ;-)
18:04:32Watusimotook, well, I'm turning my machine over to my kids to play minecraft. I'll be back on in a few hours.
18:04:40raptorbye
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19:10:39Watusimotoback
19:16:08raptorhi\
19:24:45sam686hi/
19:29:50raptorWatusimoto: so if you test heat seeker, let me know what you think :)
19:30:17raptori have had zero inspiration on what to use as a graphic, though...
19:30:18sam686there is a much better Worm, too..
19:30:40Watusimotooh great!
19:30:44Watusimotoon both fronts!
19:31:11WatusimotoI don't know if I'll get to any coding tonight -- it's 9:30PM, and I've been rising early for two weeks
19:31:29raptor:)
19:31:36Watusimotoand I still have 213 emails to get through!
19:31:55raptorwow! .6 per hour!
19:34:02Watusimotoif that
19:39:01Watusimotoso... you guys did some work on heat seekers and worms... has anyone actually played since I've been gone?
19:39:07WatusimotoI should check the stats
19:40:03sam686I played a little on bitfighter..
19:40:13Watusimotoyeah... I probably shouldn't have done that.
19:40:35Watusimotoactually looks like a small spike on the 1st and 2nd
19:41:02Watusimotoand another on the 26th
19:42:20raptorsam686 and i have been doing some testing
19:42:59WatusimotoMy kids managed to crash the game (018) just before we left, but they were vague on how they did so
19:43:02raptorin-game, several players have expressed their desire for a BBB before school starts again
19:43:06Watusimotosomething about rabbit
19:43:18Watusimotowe should do a BBB, yes
19:43:42WatusimotoI don't know if K ever made good on the prizes before he departed
19:44:07Watusimotobut I was thinking about this last week -- the prizes are a (minor) logistical issue
19:44:21raptormost just wanted an event to gather people again
19:44:46Watusimotodo you think we should 1) continue with a token cash prize
19:44:58Watusimoto2) do a BBB with no prize, just fame
19:45:03Watusimotoor 3) no BBB
19:45:04Watusimoto?
19:45:21raptoractually
19:45:32raptora couple said we should give out badges for BBB
19:45:40Watusimotothat's an idea
19:45:43raptori think we should still do BBBs
19:45:49Watusimotoyes, I think so too
19:46:07raptorwe coudl have a gold/silver/bronze badge for BBB
19:46:28sam686also, I hope BBB don't turn into a TBB (Tiny bitfighter battle)...
19:46:43WatusimotoOr maybe the green Bitfighter "B" with a 1/2/3?
19:47:00Watusimotoha!
19:51:38raptorthat sounds easy enough
19:54:51Watusimotowell, we can work out what it might look like later
19:55:29Watusimotoso folks were suggesting a BBB with the prize being a badge
19:55:41Watusimotothat would remove one logistical issue
19:55:57raptorwell, not together - two separate conversations
19:56:26raptoreveryone declared their wish for a BBB and another time i asked what badges should we do
19:56:42Watusimotoyes, just trying to synthesize into one coherent position
19:59:17raptorwell i think it's good
20:02:18WatusimotoI think we could swing that
20:02:32Watusimotoif we timed it right, my kids could play from the us
20:04:03raptorthey're coming back?
20:05:06Watusimotobriefly
20:05:25Watusimotowe'll be in the us for two weeks + in september
20:05:52Watusimotolast couple of days in August, and 1st two weeks of sep
20:06:40Watusimotobut the timing within that frame needs to be right, because we won't have access to computers the whole time
20:07:02Watusimotoit will need to be during hte Boston phase of the trip
20:07:15Watusimotowhich will probably come later
20:09:04Watusimotowow -- didn't think you guys did mych, but when I sort my mail by subject, I see there were a lot of checkins!
20:09:10raptor:)
20:09:55raptori replaced loads of dynamic casts
20:18:15BFLogBot - Commit 45d1e420a1aa | Author: sam8641 | Log: Make sure "SDL_Init(0)" was done before calling initJoystick, otherwise joystick will fail to work on windows.
20:18:20sam686After reading the source code of SDL2, I found out "SDL_Init(0)" is needed first, then joystick can be used on windows..
20:18:34raptorwhat!?
20:19:30raptorha!
20:19:36raptorthat was totally my mistake
20:19:49raptorgood catch
20:20:10raptorthat should have been in main.cpp anyways...
20:21:17sam686SDL_Init(0) is not video only, it is also for joystick and maybe others...
20:21:43sam686but, only need to do SDL_Init(0) once
20:34:02raptoryes, good catch
20:46:16raptori guess i'll respond to my list
20:54:46Watusimotosam to the rescue!
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21:26:16sam686the "Points" bit text popup might disappear too fast or too slowly depending on /maxfps 1000 or /maxfps 30
21:27:17raptorso with all my dynamic_cast changes, OpenglUtils::drawCharacter is now one of the most intensive functions...
21:27:45raptornot counting bots...
21:28:36sam686dedicated server don't use "drawCharacter", which may have a different most intensive function
21:28:48raptoryes
21:30:05raptorthe most intensive one next to that (on dedicated) is actually GridDatabase::testTypes()
21:35:38Watusimotomost intensive == most called? or most cpu?
21:35:51raptormost CPU time spent
21:36:06raptorthe Vector brackets [] was the most called
21:43:24raptoractually, my most recent callgrind shows openal being the most intensive - even more than the 3 bots i just added
21:44:20raptorthere's a dynamic_cast or two in Lua that is the biggest hog with bots..
21:45:24raptorGridDatabase::testTypes() acounts for 96% of the Vector [] calls
21:50:19raptor98%
21:55:19sam686i see in game: blackbird says "When is the next BBB"?
21:55:35sam686that is, in 017 gameplay
21:56:13raptorha
22:00:57Watusimotohard to optimize testTypes
22:01:03Watusimotowell, good night gentlemen
22:01:09Watusimotogood to be back
22:02:06Watusimotooh wait, we don't need to optimize that... well good night anyway
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23:07:54Little_Apple has joined
23:07:57Little_Applehellooo
23:08:20Little_Appleraptor?
23:08:41Little_Applei has something for you
23:11:40Little_AppleRAPTOOORRRRR
23:16:15Little_Appleerrrrm
23:19:27sam686hi
23:27:09raptorhi Little_Apple
23:27:09Little_Applehelloo sam
23:27:11Little_AppleRAPTOR
23:27:23Little_Applei has a thing for you
23:27:28raptora thing?
23:27:36raptorthat seems very specific
23:27:42Little_Applei spent about an hour on adobe flash and made this. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhf0pDZ-IEU
23:28:29raptorha
23:28:34Little_Apple:3
23:28:35raptoris that a pickle?
23:28:40Little_AppleLOL
23:29:13Little_Appleits...
23:29:15Little_Appleim not sure what it is

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