| 00:34:23 | raptor | wow, i haven't worked on bitfighter in a week! |
| 00:37:36 | raptor | ok sam686, i created a directory at /home/master/bitfighter-dedicated/exe/levels |
| 00:37:45 | raptor | we can put the BBB levels there |
| 00:38:29 | raptor | i've already compiled the server |
| 00:38:41 | raptor | we can edit the INI to however we want |
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| 01:23:07 | raptor | i made it so your user can write to it |
| 01:23:15 | raptor | any user, actually |
| 01:28:02 | sam686 | write to it? what is it? |
| 01:29:26 | raptor | this directory for the BBB: /home/master/bitfighter-dedicated/exe/levels |
| 01:29:32 | raptor | on the master server |
| 01:29:48 | sam686 | oh, ok.. |
| 01:32:07 | raptor | maybe we should just do a list.. |
| 01:34:27 | raptor | sam686: can you go here and update this notepad while I do to?: http://notepad.cc/caxosu61 |
| 01:36:32 | raptor | hmm.m.. it doesn't update dynamically... |
| 01:36:49 | raptor | brb |
| 01:41:36 | raptor | ok try here: http://typewith.me/p/BBBIX |
| 01:43:29 | sam686 | ok |
| 01:57:09 | raptor | how do you choose your ending numbers for your name? (just curious) |
| 01:57:13 | raptor | randomly-ish? |
| 01:58:11 | sam686 | partly random, but also it was 3 of my 6 digit "ID" from high school |
| 01:58:26 | raptor | neat |
| 01:58:54 | raptor | do we even have all of these old levels? |
| 02:00:09 | sam686 | could look for it on my http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/levels/ |
| 02:00:29 | sam686 | ctrl + f might be easier.. |
| 02:00:33 | raptor | good idea |
| 02:00:49 | raptor | do you see me updating that page on the fly? |
| 02:00:56 | sam686 | yes |
| 02:09:38 | sam686 | Portaliteration have like 3 versions of it based on player size, players: |
| 02:09:41 | sam686 | 1 - 4: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/levels/qui_PortaliterationA.level |
| 02:09:46 | sam686 | 5 - 8: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/levels/qui_PortaliterationB.level |
| 02:09:53 | sam686 | 9+: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/levels/qui_PortaliterationC.level |
| 02:09:58 | raptor | hmmm |
| 02:10:25 | sam686 | and they even have the MinPlayers MaxPlayers |
| 02:10:34 | raptor | ok the 9+ is good.... |
| 02:11:22 | sam686 | if putting in only one version, be sure to remove the "MinPlayers" "MaxPlayers" or else the map can get skipped |
| 02:11:35 | raptor | really? i don't know how that works.. |
| 02:12:46 | sam686 | if there is only 4 players currently in server, and MinPlayers more then 4, it skips MaxPlayers less then 4 will skip too |
| 02:12:54 | raptor | ah ok |
| 02:25:11 | sam686 | oh haha, I still happen to have some instant action Zap level files (instant action is long gone several years ago) when searching all directories with "levels" in name |
| 02:42:07 | sam686 | I happen to have found "Plumbing" here in hamsters.levels.zip at http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=965#p7533 |
| 02:42:24 | raptor | yay\ |
| 02:44:18 | raptor | I wonder if it works ok? |
| 02:45:13 | sam686 | on 017? |
| 02:46:52 | raptor | can you join my server? |
| 02:47:43 | sam686 | I remembered, it was one of a level it has played on BBB before.. |
| 02:47:54 | raptor | was it ok? |
| 02:48:16 | sam686 | gameplay of Plumbing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7rjx-835bU |
| 02:48:56 | sam686 | a possible problem is: the undestroyable forcefield could be destroyed |
| 02:50:57 | sam686 | 7:41 in the video is when I destroyed the enemy forcefield which was, i think, suppose to be undestroyable.. |
| 02:51:19 | raptor | looking.. |
| 02:51:53 | sam686 | one easy fix is, those 2 forcefield can be edited to self-heal quickly to greatly reduce or eliminate that problem |
| 02:52:31 | raptor | ha! yeah, that's no good |
| 02:53:12 | raptor | what other problems? are the speed zones messed up, too? |
| 02:54:14 | raptor | maybe we shouldn't do Plumbing... |
| 02:54:17 | sam686 | i think the speedzone might have been messed up too, maybe they should have snapping enabled? maybe that map was made specifically for really old version of Zap (not bitfighter) |
| 02:54:32 | raptor | yeah, let's skip it... |
| 02:56:26 | raptor | ok, i'm taking a break for about an hour - i'll be back a bit later |
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| 03:58:23 | raptor | hi again |
| 03:58:47 | sam686 | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=234#p3424 lists most of contest winners |
| 03:59:47 | sam686 | I seem to having connection problems with http://typewith.me/p/BBBIX ... maybe it stopped working? |
| 03:59:48 | raptor | oh wow |
| 03:59:52 | raptor | yeah me too... |
| 04:00:23 | sam686 | oh now i got connected to typewith |
| 04:01:05 | sam686 | maybe its better of using our wiki for level list.. I got it copied into notepad.. |
| 04:01:14 | raptor | let's go here: http://beta.etherpad.org/p/BBBIX |
| 04:01:17 | raptor | ok |
| 04:01:49 | raptor | that site is more stable |
| 04:01:57 | raptor | (or at least more well-known) |
| 04:02:11 | raptor | you can add to the list, too, right? |
| 04:02:30 | sam686 | yes |
| 04:11:33 | | BFLogBot - Commit be834c14c5dd | Author: sam8641 | Log: Mostly solved windows console problem, hide console only when game window appears on non-debug. |
| 04:16:46 | sam686 | that was me you join 30 seconds ago, I forgot to name myself sam686 |
| 04:16:57 | raptor | ha |
| 04:25:12 | sam686 | Top Down House appears to make look quite good to me as a BitMatch |
| 04:27:09 | sam686 | I think we are overusing CTF.. |
| 04:27:17 | raptor | heh |
| 04:27:46 | raptor | yeah... i'm just going through the level archives on the forums for any high rated ones... |
| 04:28:38 | sam686 | the problem, i think not all maps are rated, and more importantly not all individual maps are in the forum.. |
| 04:29:18 | raptor | yes |
| 04:35:10 | sam686 | Sunburst level was one of winner's level design contest too |
| 04:35:21 | raptor | oh good |
| 04:36:09 | sam686 | I happen to have that map too, just came across is on my server doing /prev /prev /prev |
| 04:37:33 | sam686 | Sarcophage is also one of winner contest, i have that map, but it is partly broken and messy now, maybe it worked on early version of bitfighter... |
| 04:37:40 | raptor | yeah, bad map |
| 04:42:53 | sam686 | I found a nexus map with broken or near zero nexus opens timer... I think it was suppose to be open forever (never closes) |
| 04:43:07 | raptor | uh oh |
| 04:44:23 | sam686 | Factory Control has that problem (which i am hosting at this minute) |
| 04:45:03 | sam686 | I have been thinking Factory control is hugh, probably big enough for bBB |
| 04:49:09 | sam686 | need more soccer levels.. |
| 04:51:00 | sam686 | oh, and need more Core levels.. |
| 04:51:12 | raptor | yeah, i'm not to that category yet... |
| 05:25:08 | raptor | ok, i need to go to bed... i'm going to upload the current list to that directory on master |
| 05:27:06 | sam686 | ok |
| 05:27:30 | sam686 | i guess crazy soccer - the most up to date one, might work |
| 05:27:48 | raptor | that's not really a good one.. |
| 05:27:52 | raptor | i don't think |
| 05:28:02 | sam686 | but i don't think its good thoug |
| 05:28:02 | raptor | there were some good ones in past BBB's that _k had |
| 05:28:14 | raptor | ok, the server is up |
| 05:28:19 | raptor | 'don't put beans up your nose' |
| 05:28:30 | sam686 | password? |
| 05:28:49 | raptor | sent vi private message.. |
| 05:29:08 | sam686 | i see the password.. |
| 05:29:20 | raptor | we can make adjustments to the maps like with score, etc.. |
| 05:29:37 | raptor | also feel free to say certain ones aren't so good |
| 05:29:43 | raptor | and suggest more |
| 05:29:55 | raptor | i'll look around again tomorrow |
| 05:30:03 | sam686 | might want to adjust scores too |
| 05:30:07 | raptor | yes |
| 05:41:50 | raptor | night |
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| 18:29:14 | LoneWolfy | This is deaddddd |
| 18:29:21 | raptor | hi |
| 18:29:47 | LoneWolfy | Oh... :P |
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| 21:14:43 | raptor | hello |
| 21:14:47 | raptor | am i still here? |
| 21:15:03 | sam686 | hi |
| 21:15:08 | raptor | hi |
| 21:22:09 | sam686 | I didn't notice I won first place on three BBB until I put a list of first place for each BBB. http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/text1208/120828_16-08-21.txt |
| 21:23:48 | raptor | neat! |
| 21:26:49 | raptor | one thing we need to do is put in smarter disconnect / renaming logic |
| 21:28:54 | sam686 | one easy way to greatly reduce team changing abuse is to turn on team change vote and maybe make the vote last for only 1 second (can't team change until vote pass if vote is enabled) |
| 21:29:14 | sam686 | but, that doesn't fix a problem of leaving and joining to get to a different team.. |
| 21:30:26 | raptor | yeah, i don't mind if people change teams - they will be ineligible for a win then |
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| 21:57:09 | sam686 | is "Bastin" a good core level? |
| 21:57:24 | sam686 | i meant "Bastion" |
| 21:57:31 | raptor | not sure - it's large |
| 21:57:41 | raptor | it probably is has too many resources |
| 21:57:57 | raptor | because it's easy to engineer traps that other players can't get out of |
| 21:58:47 | sam686 | does the engineer anti-abuse (can't engineer too close to wall) reduce problem? |
| 21:58:58 | raptor | no |
| 21:59:30 | raptor | it's more like if you have only two people camping in the base buildingthings, you can build forcefields around spawn points |
| 22:01:11 | sam686 | Qal'ah core level? |
| 22:01:18 | raptor | not very good |
| 22:03:16 | raptor | Bastion *could* be modified a bit I suppose... |
| 22:03:16 | raptor | or maybe we could just stick to the ones _k made |
| 22:03:16 | raptor | since they're sort of classic.. |
| 22:04:04 | sam686 | _k don't have any Core levels that I know of (except a few that is already in a 017 basic levels from install.. |
| 22:04:27 | raptor | yeah, just Core01, Core02, Core03 |
| 22:06:42 | sam686 | green eggs and ham aren't very good because of suicide to bring up more flags the enemy can't go to.. |
| 22:07:09 | raptor | yeah - that's why i'd thought it'd be just a goofy level to quickly play |
| 22:07:19 | raptor | we could throw in a few of those silly-type levels |
| 22:14:10 | sam686 | goffy? distraction curve? |
| 22:14:36 | sam686 | now i run into a dumb bug on my distraction curve server 017 |
| 22:14:53 | raptor | exactly, goofy |
| 22:14:59 | raptor | like distraction curve :) |
| 22:15:36 | sam686 | if you go check my "sam test" bottom right corner of map... |
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| 22:17:06 | raptor | ok, i'm connecting from a slow wireless from school, though... |
| 22:18:38 | raptor | ha |
| 22:18:47 | raptor | client-side prediction problem? |
| 22:18:49 | sam686 | ok, i can see your lag |
| 22:19:13 | raptor | this does look neat, though: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/3screenshot_0.png |
| 22:20:02 | sam686 | may be, but might be the side affect of sending an approximate "compressed" position instead of exact position.. |
| 22:24:38 | sam686 | will "Kate" work (3 team zone control) it looks like 3 faces merged together in the middle neck.. |
| 22:25:22 | raptor | haha, yeah, that'll work |
| 22:37:07 | raptor | ok, gotta get to class.. |
| 22:37:16 | raptor | i'll be on much later |
| 22:37:41 | raptor | like around 10 |
| 22:37:41 | raptor | my time, so 11 yours |
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