#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-09-28

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00:24:29 raptor bye again
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04:13:37 amginea135246 sam im back wanna play?
04:23:13 sam686 hi
04:23:28 raptor hi sam686, have you tested the module playing in windows?
04:24:02 sam686 not yet
04:25:02 raptor ok, well if you do, please tell me if there are any problems...  i think maybe the volume might be a little low for modules
04:26:52 amginea135246 ok ready sam
04:27:14 sam686 like, umm... this mod file? http://sam6.25u.com/upload/Bitfighter.mod
04:28:17 amginea135246 I see no problesn with the modules current sound level
04:37:12 amginea135246  questio nsam if i make aloadout zone neutrel does that mean everyone can use it of all teams
04:37:33 amginea135246 or raptor
04:37:54 sam686 on Zone Control, all goals not on your team can be scored into touchdown..
04:38:05 sam686 ... if you are holding flag..
04:38:49 amginea135246  not goal loadoutzone
04:39:26 amginea135246 for example can red yellow and bleu teams use a neutrel loadoutzone
04:39:33 amginea135246 ie share
04:40:39 sam686 any team can use neutral goal zone
04:41:06 sam686 i mean loadout zone, not goal
04:41:29 amginea135246 ok thats what i was checking
04:41:30 sam686 any team can use own team or neutral  loadout zone
04:42:17 raptor ok, heading to bed early - good night!
04:42:31 amginea135246 goodnight raptor
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04:42:39 amginea135246  sam lets try it now
04:42:52 sam686 i see,  single team zone control have different scoring,   kill one turret scores you one point...
05:32:46 amginea135246 ready....
05:54:37 sam686 will need to go to bed,  bye..
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05:56:35 amginea135246 alas bye
05:58:05 amginea135246 bye all
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14:15:58 raptor good morning!
14:28:23 watusimoto hi
14:29:36 raptor hi
14:30:27 raptor so i was thinking
14:30:59 raptor we're quickly making our hg repo large in size by constantly adding music and libraries
14:31:24 raptor what about having a separate repo for stuff like that?
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14:40:41 watusimoto dos the repo size matter?
14:41:03 raptor only when cloning for the first time...  i think we're at like 180MB
14:41:08 raptor or something like that...
14:41:25 watusimoto well, I think everything you need to build should be in one repo
14:41:29 raptor not a big deal really...
14:41:37 raptor yes, so probably libraries shoudl stay
14:41:43 watusimoto you could argue that the music could be put elsewhere, but there's really not much there
14:41:56 watusimoto and most of that should hopefully be deleted or imported into the game
14:42:08 raptor yes
14:42:15 watusimoto once someone is able to make a decision :-)
14:42:17 raptor however the changeset is still in the repo
14:42:31 watusimoto what do you mean?
14:42:41 watusimoto once there, always there?
14:42:45 raptor yes
14:42:56 raptor so right now, the music_ideas is 36MB
14:43:03 watusimoto but that's google's problem
14:43:11 raptor if we deleted all of it, that 36MB is still in the hg repo history
14:43:23 raptor so when someone clones in the future, they have an extra 36MB to download
14:43:28 watusimoto but people won't have to download it
14:43:39 watusimoto when you clone, you don't get all history
14:43:42 raptor yes you do
14:43:46 raptor with DVCS
14:43:48 raptor you do
14:43:50 watusimoto you get every file that was ever added
14:43:53 raptor everything
14:43:59 watusimoto really?
14:44:01 raptor yep
14:44:02 watusimoto where does it go?
14:44:09 watusimoto trully?
14:44:17 raptor there is a hidden .hg directory at the root of the bitfighter tree
14:44:20 raptor it's all in there
14:44:23 watusimoto the .hg file
14:44:26 watusimoto folder
14:44:27 watusimoto rather
14:44:36 raptor it allows for instant updating to any changeset ever
14:44:38 watusimoto I didn't know that
14:44:40 raptor all locally
14:44:47 watusimoto good to know
14:45:04 watusimoto we can solve the prblem by adding that 36MB of music to the game :-)
14:45:37 raptor haha
14:45:44 watusimoto I could see an argument for calving off the music folder, but not the libs
14:45:52 watusimoto rather the potential music folder
14:46:09 raptor well i already have a separate repo for 'tools'
14:46:17 watusimoto what are tools?
14:46:20 raptor if you go here:  http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/list
14:46:34 raptor select  'tools' from the 'repository' drop down
14:47:22 watusimoto I see
14:47:38 raptor basically misc. things that help with the bitfighter project, but aren't the codebase
14:47:45 watusimoto right
14:48:01 watusimoto well, you could create a music repo, I suppose
14:48:30 watusimoto I don't really see the problem, but you are more concerned with project hygine than I am :-)
14:48:39 raptor hehe, yep  :)
14:48:39 watusimoto (which I consider a good thing)
14:49:09 raptor well, i've been wanting to do some history cleaning
14:49:20 raptor like move the music files into their own repo
14:49:27 watusimoto would we lose our history?
14:49:46 raptor nono - i would just splice out the revisions
14:49:51 watusimoto not that it's critical after some stage
14:49:56 raptor and move them to a differen repo
14:50:09 raptor would reduce our codebase repo size considerably
14:50:11 raptor but
14:50:15 watusimoto so main project goes back to x, and other repo goes from 0 to x
14:50:29 raptor you and sam would have to check out brand new clones
14:50:45 raptor so revision in repo are like this:   a->b->c
14:50:55 raptor but b is 10MB of music files
14:51:07 raptor so i'd change history to be  a->c
14:51:13 raptor and put b in another repo
14:51:33 watusimoto and if b is music + code change?  no matter?
14:51:46 raptor if that's the case, i'd do changeset editing  :)
14:51:55 watusimoto you really want to do that?
14:51:58 raptor rip out the music from the code
14:52:23 raptor well...   i sort of like housekeeping jobs like that - i think they help me destress...
14:52:33 watusimoto :-)
14:52:51 watusimoto you could update our file headers... they have outdated (c) info
14:55:31 kodaws raptor, hey
14:55:37 kodaws raptor, i got some success to report
14:55:39 raptor hi kodaws
14:55:40 raptor oh yeah?
14:56:01 kodaws yes, i got xcode play button to report
14:56:05 kodaws to work*
14:56:07 raptor !
14:56:15 raptor really!
14:56:21 kodaws there are a few catches
14:56:22 raptor uh, xcode 3 or 4?
14:56:25 kodaws 3
14:56:28 raptor i expect catches
14:56:28 kodaws don't have 4
14:56:32 raptor ok
14:57:21 kodaws the problem lies in the xcode interaction with app bundles
14:57:35 kodaws basically xcode always tries to launch the executable that it just produced
14:57:39 raptor was it my evil wrapper script?
14:57:47 raptor ok
14:57:56 kodaws but since the executable set is the .sh it will confuse the debugger
14:58:06 raptor makes sense
14:58:22 kodaws as it's trying to launch Bitfigther, but the app bundle knows that the main exe is bitfighter.sh
14:59:00 kodaws also you should use exec to launch the executable
14:59:19 raptor from the .sh you mean?
14:59:20 kodaws like exec ./Bitfighter -args blahblah
14:59:25 raptor ah ok
14:59:30 raptor let me start up my vm
14:59:37 kodaws yes, ./command starts another process
14:59:50 kodaws exec ./command transforms the current process into the command
14:59:58 raptor do you have a diff I could look at?
15:00:00 kodaws the first one of course add in the confusion to gdb
15:00:06 raptor ok
15:00:15 kodaws i do... at home :(
15:00:35 raptor heh - always happens!
15:01:02 kodaws but my changes are trivial, add an ifdef in main so that the args are hardcoded and that the first time executable is called via "system"
15:01:21 raptor ah ok, so it bypasses the script completely?
15:01:26 kodaws yes
15:01:42 raptor that's probably the 'official' Mac way of doing things...
15:01:48 raptor err iOS/OSX
15:01:51 kodaws if you wish i'll send a patch later on
15:01:54 raptor sure!
15:02:12 watusimoto awesome, kodaws, thanks!
15:02:33 raptor hey, that means you get the dev badge (if you have a registered user)
15:02:48 watusimoto not till there's some code committed!  :-)
15:02:56 kodaws for now i hardcoded full paths, need to find a way to clean that up :p
15:02:59 raptor yes
15:03:15 kodaws i have it but it's very old and forgot the username >_<
15:03:17 raptor evil absolute paths...
15:03:22 kodaws unless it's koda or smth
15:03:37 kodaws but anyway
15:04:18 raptor well cool - you're in italy, right?
15:04:32 kodaws yes
15:04:45 raptor so i'll still b e at work when you're home...  probably
15:16:18 raptor hey...  SDL development has really picked up again!
15:16:26 raptor they even fixed one of my bugs!
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15:52:27 watusimoto whch one?
15:52:44 raptor the right-mouse click missing one
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17:10:06 Little_Apple helloo
17:11:12 raptor hi
17:11:52 Little_Apple raptor: have you seen raspberry pi?
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17:12:46 raptor i've heard of it, yes
17:14:27 Little_Apple what do you think about it?
17:15:04 raptor i don't know, i haven't seen one used
17:15:39 Little_Apple think one could be used to host a game server?
17:16:35 raptor probably - i already code the codebase to compile on ARM architecture
17:17:09 Little_Apple interestinnnnngggg
17:17:27 raptor i had to do that for my android test
17:18:10 Little_Apple hm
17:40:41 raptor so Little_Apple, after dabbling in the bitfighter code, are you learning c++ yet?
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18:30:17 Little_Apple raptor: i dont know much about starting a program but i can change one...
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18:44:59 Watusimoto looking for an elegant solution:
18:45:33 Watusimoto find the number of numbers between 1 and 2^n where their binary representations sum to exactly 3
18:45:56 Watusimoto I thought there would be a good solution, but haven;t found any
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18:54:14 Watusimoto got it
18:54:45 Watusimoto 2^n, and you want the sum to be m (in the example above, m = 3)
18:55:07 Watusimoto n!/((n-m)! * n!)
18:55:16 Watusimoto save this... you never know when you might need it!
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19:14:13 raptor wait what?
19:14:56 raptor isn't that just  1/(n-m)! ?
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20:22:35 Watusimoto hi sam686
20:23:13 Watusimoto n!/((n-m)! * m!)
20:23:16 Watusimoto I mistyped
20:23:35 Watusimoto I have an s_bot question
20:23:44 raptor sorry, i have algebra on the head constantly now...
20:23:55 Watusimoto from the function onTick(), we have the following lines:
20:24:02 Watusimoto -- attackNearbyEnemies returns true if there is an enemy to fight, false if the bot can do something else
20:24:03 Watusimoto     if not attackNearbyEnemies(1 - agression) then
20:24:03 Watusimoto         doObjective()
20:24:03 Watusimoto     end
20:24:03 Watusimoto     doObjective()
20:24:03 Watusimoto     goInDirection()
20:24:23 Watusimoto my question is is it intentional that doObjective is there twice?
20:30:54 raptor i have no idea
20:31:08 raptor but probably you're asking sam686
20:33:41 Watusimoto indeed
20:34:12 Watusimoto I think the bots are a fair bit more efficient now
20:34:25 Watusimoto though i have no data to support that
20:35:02 raptor great!
20:35:37 raptor that's twice performance has improved for bots (the first time being the Lua instance instanciation changes)
20:35:51 raptor deparment of redundancy department
20:36:34 BFLogBot - Commit 446da76198fa | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Formatting and remove duplicate calls to getClosestEnemy()
20:36:38 BFLogBot - Commit 9c350af52fc8 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Sigh... too much C++ coding...
20:46:35 sam686 Not sure about double "doObjective", its been a while since I look at it..  Can take off the first "doObjetive"
20:47:17 Watusimoto so just
20:47:23 Watusimoto attackEnemies()
20:47:25 Watusimoto doObjective()
20:47:29 Watusimoto ...
20:47:44 Watusimoto ?
20:48:15 sam686 yes,  maybe just   attachNearbyEnemies(1-aggression)
20:48:20 sam686 then  doObjective()
20:48:53 Watusimoto ok, great
20:49:17 Watusimoto I'm trying to modernize and cleanup the structure of s_bot
20:49:29 Watusimoto unfortunately, I ahve not found as many things I can push to C++ as I had hoped
20:49:40 Watusimoto but that's just its nature
20:56:41 BFLogBot - Commit 18838fb1b95e | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove duplicate call to doObjective
21:46:48 BFLogBot - Commit c787b84242cb | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Comments
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22:31:09 raptor hi
22:31:23 raptor so, what is left for release?  :)
22:35:39 koda so this is the crude diff https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24468/bitfighter.diff
22:35:45 koda but i'll start working on a patch now
22:36:08 raptor hi koda
22:36:16 koda hi raptor :)
22:39:23 raptor was that it?  just add the args to main()?
22:39:37 koda raptor i told you it was crude :p
22:39:53 koda how is the first launch performed on other platforms?
22:40:02 raptor uh
22:40:18 raptor there isn't really a first-launch directive
22:40:35 raptor it does a couple checks though if it's an updated version or if the INI doesn't exist...
22:41:22 raptor did you have to point the project to the binary instead of the wrapper script somewhere?
22:41:28 raptor (i don't see that in the diff)
22:41:42 koda yes had to modify my info.plist
22:42:45 koda i'm trying on a clean clone
22:42:51 koda so it'll be easier to understand
22:42:55 raptor ok  :)
22:43:04 raptor also, i fixed libmodplug in the interim...
22:43:08 raptor the headers, i mean
22:43:20 koda ah neat :)
22:45:36 sam686 One of an editor complaint I hear from Amgine is,  can't delete teleporter in editor (probably when you select a vertex and not the whole thing making pressing backspace not delete when it will when the whole thing selected.
22:46:00 raptor please add it to the buglist if you've duplicated it
22:46:45 koda ok refresh the patch to see the full diff
22:47:02 raptor koda: do you know about 'hg serve'?
22:47:36 koda yes but it'll be easier to push to my clone :p
22:47:50 raptor did you add the .sh?
22:48:40 koda yes hold on
22:56:34 koda oooo nice there are .mm files too
22:56:58 raptor um
22:57:01 raptor for SDL?
22:57:20 raptor i've never gotten the hang of Obj-c/c++  yet...
22:58:01 koda Directory.mm does that
22:58:09 koda oh but it's not a full class
22:58:11 koda oh well
22:59:40 raptor oh yeah...  forgot about that class..
22:59:54 raptor called from main()
23:15:00 koda raptor: https://code.google.com/r/vittoriogiovara-bitfighter
23:15:26 raptor setting up a pull alias...
23:16:00 koda still thinking about a clean way of setting up the right way of sending arguments to the executables...
23:16:23 koda how about some default values if -rootdatadir is not passed in?
23:16:42 raptor I think that seems fine, especially for Mac
23:16:54 raptor can you hijack moveToAppPath() for that?
23:17:18 raptor my poor wrapper script is gone  :(
23:17:21 raptor yay
23:18:21 raptor LGTM
23:18:36 koda lgtm?
23:18:42 raptor looks good to me
23:18:58 raptor about your commits
23:19:05 koda \o/
23:20:15 raptor also...  what do the two '@' mean in this (as a matter of academic interest...):  stringWithFormat:@"%@/firstlaunch-osx.sh"
23:22:00 BFLogBot - Commit 6bcabf9c3778 | Author: koda | Log: make xcode happy by not using wrapper script
23:22:01 BFLogBot - Commit b9279dd396a8 | Author: koda | Log: restore launching the setup script
23:25:27 koda the @"" is just a shortcut for NSString
23:25:38 raptor ah ok
23:25:47 koda and %@ is how to reference a nsstring inside " " blocks
23:26:01 raptor interesting
23:26:03 raptor ok, thanks
23:33:54 koda ok to hijack the default values
23:34:04 koda i can put another function in directory.mm
23:34:12 koda but how can i pass argVector?
23:34:34 koda i get isoc++ forbids vector declaration etc etc
23:35:03 raptor we use a std::vector wrapper called TNL::Vector
23:35:31 raptor could you just pass in argc
23:35:32 raptor ?
23:36:05 koda yes but then i'd need to reallocate argv/argc which *should* be readonly
23:36:26 raptor is it becasue of using Vector (as opposed to vector [with little 'v'])?
23:36:45 raptor because you can get the innerVector by doing   argVector.getStlVector()
23:40:11 koda well even after adding the right includes (tlnTypes no?) it still doesn't know what's Vector
23:41:17 raptor grab lower case vector  with  .getStlVector()
23:42:17 koda and then use void setDefaultPaths(const vector<string> &argv); as prototype?
23:42:25 raptor yes
23:42:32 raptor (or at leasy try...)
23:42:36 koda same error
23:42:48 raptor hmm
23:42:56 koda with and without using namespace std
23:43:59 koda i'm starting to think that this is a .mm compatibility thing
23:45:48 raptor the internet seems to think the solution is to use std::
23:46:07 koda void setDefaultPaths(const std::vector<string> &argv);
23:46:12 koda fails :(
23:46:27 raptor #include <vector>
23:46:28 raptor ?
23:46:47 koda umh
23:46:58 koda i get "string was not declared in this scope
23:47:11 koda but lo
23:47:14 koda std::string fixes
23:47:22 raptor ha
23:48:04 koda yesss it compiles, thanks
23:48:26 raptor guess-and-check to the rescue!
23:48:43 sam686 I hate that stupid windows-only screen saver supressor, it keeps making my alt-tab not work (hold down alt, and cometimes my TAB stops responding till ALT is release)
23:49:09 raptor maybe add an INI option?  :)
23:49:29 raptor useStupidWindowsScreensaverSuppression=no
23:57:08 koda using TLN::Vector works too
23:57:18 koda but i can't use its methods for some reason
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23:58:33 raptor it's an evil c++ template
23:59:39 koda error: passing 'const TNL::Vector<std::string>' as 'this' argument of 'bool TNL::Vector<T>::contains(const T&) [with T = std::string]' discards qualifiers

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00:24:29	raptor	bye again
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04:13:37	amginea135246	sam im back wanna play?
04:23:13	sam686	hi
04:23:28	raptor	hi sam686, have you tested the module playing in windows?
04:24:02	sam686	not yet
04:25:02	raptor	ok, well if you do, please tell me if there are any problems... i think maybe the volume might be a little low for modules
04:26:52	amginea135246	ok ready sam
04:27:14	sam686	like, umm... this mod file? http://sam6.25u.com/upload/Bitfighter.mod
04:28:17	amginea135246	I see no problesn with the modules current sound level
04:37:12	amginea135246	questio nsam if i make aloadout zone neutrel does that mean everyone can use it of all teams
04:37:33	amginea135246	or raptor
04:37:54	sam686	on Zone Control, all goals not on your team can be scored into touchdown..
04:38:05	sam686	... if you are holding flag..
04:38:49	amginea135246	not goal loadoutzone
04:39:26	amginea135246	for example can red yellow and bleu teams use a neutrel loadoutzone
04:39:33	amginea135246	ie share
04:40:39	sam686	any team can use neutral goal zone
04:41:06	sam686	i mean loadout zone, not goal
04:41:29	amginea135246	ok thats what i was checking
04:41:30	sam686	any team can use own team or neutral loadout zone
04:42:17	raptor	ok, heading to bed early - good night!
04:42:31	amginea135246	goodnight raptor
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04:42:39	amginea135246	sam lets try it now
04:42:52	sam686	i see, single team zone control have different scoring, kill one turret scores you one point...
05:32:46	amginea135246	ready....
05:54:37	sam686	will need to go to bed, bye..
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05:56:35	amginea135246	alas bye
05:58:05	amginea135246	bye all
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14:15:58	raptor	good morning!
14:28:23	watusimoto	hi
14:29:36	raptor	hi
14:30:27	raptor	so i was thinking
14:30:59	raptor	we're quickly making our hg repo large in size by constantly adding music and libraries
14:31:24	raptor	what about having a separate repo for stuff like that?
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14:40:41	watusimoto	dos the repo size matter?
14:41:03	raptor	only when cloning for the first time... i think we're at like 180MB
14:41:08	raptor	or something like that...
14:41:25	watusimoto	well, I think everything you need to build should be in one repo
14:41:29	raptor	not a big deal really...
14:41:37	raptor	yes, so probably libraries shoudl stay
14:41:43	watusimoto	you could argue that the music could be put elsewhere, but there's really not much there
14:41:56	watusimoto	and most of that should hopefully be deleted or imported into the game
14:42:08	raptor	yes
14:42:15	watusimoto	once someone is able to make a decision :-)
14:42:17	raptor	however the changeset is still in the repo
14:42:31	watusimoto	what do you mean?
14:42:41	watusimoto	once there, always there?
14:42:45	raptor	yes
14:42:56	raptor	so right now, the music_ideas is 36MB
14:43:03	watusimoto	but that's google's problem
14:43:11	raptor	if we deleted all of it, that 36MB is still in the hg repo history
14:43:23	raptor	so when someone clones in the future, they have an extra 36MB to download
14:43:28	watusimoto	but people won't have to download it
14:43:39	watusimoto	when you clone, you don't get all history
14:43:42	raptor	yes you do
14:43:46	raptor	with DVCS
14:43:48	raptor	you do
14:43:50	watusimoto	you get every file that was ever added
14:43:53	raptor	everything
14:43:59	watusimoto	really?
14:44:01	raptor	yep
14:44:02	watusimoto	where does it go?
14:44:09	watusimoto	trully?
14:44:17	raptor	there is a hidden .hg directory at the root of the bitfighter tree
14:44:20	raptor	it's all in there
14:44:23	watusimoto	the .hg file
14:44:26	watusimoto	folder
14:44:27	watusimoto	rather
14:44:36	raptor	it allows for instant updating to any changeset ever
14:44:38	watusimoto	I didn't know that
14:44:40	raptor	all locally
14:44:47	watusimoto	good to know
14:45:04	watusimoto	we can solve the prblem by adding that 36MB of music to the game :-)
14:45:37	raptor	haha
14:45:44	watusimoto	I could see an argument for calving off the music folder, but not the libs
14:45:52	watusimoto	rather the potential music folder
14:46:09	raptor	well i already have a separate repo for 'tools'
14:46:17	watusimoto	what are tools?
14:46:20	raptor	if you go here: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/list
14:46:34	raptor	select 'tools' from the 'repository' drop down
14:47:22	watusimoto	I see
14:47:38	raptor	basically misc. things that help with the bitfighter project, but aren't the codebase
14:47:45	watusimoto	right
14:48:01	watusimoto	well, you could create a music repo, I suppose
14:48:30	watusimoto	I don't really see the problem, but you are more concerned with project hygine than I am :-)
14:48:39	raptor	hehe, yep :)
14:48:39	watusimoto	(which I consider a good thing)
14:49:09	raptor	well, i've been wanting to do some history cleaning
14:49:20	raptor	like move the music files into their own repo
14:49:27	watusimoto	would we lose our history?
14:49:46	raptor	nono - i would just splice out the revisions
14:49:51	watusimoto	not that it's critical after some stage
14:49:56	raptor	and move them to a differen repo
14:50:09	raptor	would reduce our codebase repo size considerably
14:50:11	raptor	but
14:50:15	watusimoto	so main project goes back to x, and other repo goes from 0 to x
14:50:29	raptor	you and sam would have to check out brand new clones
14:50:45	raptor	so revision in repo are like this: a->b->c
14:50:55	raptor	but b is 10MB of music files
14:51:07	raptor	so i'd change history to be a->c
14:51:13	raptor	and put b in another repo
14:51:33	watusimoto	and if b is music + code change? no matter?
14:51:46	raptor	if that's the case, i'd do changeset editing :)
14:51:55	watusimoto	you really want to do that?
14:51:58	raptor	rip out the music from the code
14:52:23	raptor	well... i sort of like housekeeping jobs like that - i think they help me destress...
14:52:33	watusimoto	:-)
14:52:51	watusimoto	you could update our file headers... they have outdated (c) info
14:55:31	kodaws	raptor, hey
14:55:37	kodaws	raptor, i got some success to report
14:55:39	raptor	hi kodaws
14:55:40	raptor	oh yeah?
14:56:01	kodaws	yes, i got xcode play button to report
14:56:05	kodaws	to work*
14:56:07	raptor	!
14:56:15	raptor	really!
14:56:21	kodaws	there are a few catches
14:56:22	raptor	uh, xcode 3 or 4?
14:56:25	kodaws	3
14:56:28	raptor	i expect catches
14:56:28	kodaws	don't have 4
14:56:32	raptor	ok
14:57:21	kodaws	the problem lies in the xcode interaction with app bundles
14:57:35	kodaws	basically xcode always tries to launch the executable that it just produced
14:57:39	raptor	was it my evil wrapper script?
14:57:47	raptor	ok
14:57:56	kodaws	but since the executable set is the .sh it will confuse the debugger
14:58:06	raptor	makes sense
14:58:22	kodaws	as it's trying to launch Bitfigther, but the app bundle knows that the main exe is bitfighter.sh
14:59:00	kodaws	also you should use exec to launch the executable
14:59:19	raptor	from the .sh you mean?
14:59:20	kodaws	like exec ./Bitfighter -args blahblah
14:59:25	raptor	ah ok
14:59:30	raptor	let me start up my vm
14:59:37	kodaws	yes, ./command starts another process
14:59:50	kodaws	exec ./command transforms the current process into the command
14:59:58	raptor	do you have a diff I could look at?
15:00:00	kodaws	the first one of course add in the confusion to gdb
15:00:06	raptor	ok
15:00:15	kodaws	i do... at home :(
15:00:35	raptor	heh - always happens!
15:01:02	kodaws	but my changes are trivial, add an ifdef in main so that the args are hardcoded and that the first time executable is called via "system"
15:01:21	raptor	ah ok, so it bypasses the script completely?
15:01:26	kodaws	yes
15:01:42	raptor	that's probably the 'official' Mac way of doing things...
15:01:48	raptor	err iOS/OSX
15:01:51	kodaws	if you wish i'll send a patch later on
15:01:54	raptor	sure!
15:02:12	watusimoto	awesome, kodaws, thanks!
15:02:33	raptor	hey, that means you get the dev badge (if you have a registered user)
15:02:48	watusimoto	not till there's some code committed! :-)
15:02:56	kodaws	for now i hardcoded full paths, need to find a way to clean that up :p
15:02:59	raptor	yes
15:03:15	kodaws	i have it but it's very old and forgot the username >_<
15:03:17	raptor	evil absolute paths...
15:03:22	kodaws	unless it's koda or smth
15:03:37	kodaws	but anyway
15:04:18	raptor	well cool - you're in italy, right?
15:04:32	kodaws	yes
15:04:45	raptor	so i'll still b e at work when you're home... probably
15:16:18	raptor	hey... SDL development has really picked up again!
15:16:26	raptor	they even fixed one of my bugs!
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15:52:27	watusimoto	whch one?
15:52:44	raptor	the right-mouse click missing one
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17:10:06	Little_Apple	helloo
17:11:12	raptor	hi
17:11:52	Little_Apple	raptor: have you seen raspberry pi?
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17:12:46	raptor	i've heard of it, yes
17:14:27	Little_Apple	what do you think about it?
17:15:04	raptor	i don't know, i haven't seen one used
17:15:39	Little_Apple	think one could be used to host a game server?
17:16:35	raptor	probably - i already code the codebase to compile on ARM architecture
17:17:09	Little_Apple	interestinnnnngggg
17:17:27	raptor	i had to do that for my android test
17:18:10	Little_Apple	hm
17:40:41	raptor	so Little_Apple, after dabbling in the bitfighter code, are you learning c++ yet?
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18:30:17	Little_Apple	raptor: i dont know much about starting a program but i can change one...
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18:44:59	Watusimoto	looking for an elegant solution:
18:45:33	Watusimoto	find the number of numbers between 1 and 2^n where their binary representations sum to exactly 3
18:45:56	Watusimoto	I thought there would be a good solution, but haven;t found any
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18:54:14	Watusimoto	got it
18:54:45	Watusimoto	2^n, and you want the sum to be m (in the example above, m = 3)
18:55:07	Watusimoto	n!/((n-m)! * n!)
18:55:16	Watusimoto	save this... you never know when you might need it!
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19:14:13	raptor	wait what?
19:14:56	raptor	isn't that just 1/(n-m)! ?
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20:22:35	Watusimoto	hi sam686
20:23:13	Watusimoto	n!/((n-m)! * m!)
20:23:16	Watusimoto	I mistyped
20:23:35	Watusimoto	I have an s_bot question
20:23:44	raptor	sorry, i have algebra on the head constantly now...
20:23:55	Watusimoto	from the function onTick(), we have the following lines:
20:24:02	Watusimoto	-- attackNearbyEnemies returns true if there is an enemy to fight, false if the bot can do something else
20:24:03	Watusimoto	if not attackNearbyEnemies(1 - agression) then
20:24:03	Watusimoto	doObjective()
20:24:03	Watusimoto	end
20:24:03	Watusimoto	doObjective()
20:24:03	Watusimoto	goInDirection()
20:24:23	Watusimoto	my question is is it intentional that doObjective is there twice?
20:30:54	raptor	i have no idea
20:31:08	raptor	but probably you're asking sam686
20:33:41	Watusimoto	indeed
20:34:12	Watusimoto	I think the bots are a fair bit more efficient now
20:34:25	Watusimoto	though i have no data to support that
20:35:02	raptor	great!
20:35:37	raptor	that's twice performance has improved for bots (the first time being the Lua instance instanciation changes)
20:35:51	raptor	deparment of redundancy department
20:36:34		BFLogBot - Commit 446da76198fa \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Formatting and remove duplicate calls to getClosestEnemy()
20:36:38		BFLogBot - Commit 9c350af52fc8 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Sigh... too much C++ coding...
20:46:35	sam686	Not sure about double "doObjective", its been a while since I look at it.. Can take off the first "doObjetive"
20:47:17	Watusimoto	so just
20:47:23	Watusimoto	attackEnemies()
20:47:25	Watusimoto	doObjective()
20:47:29	Watusimoto	...
20:47:44	Watusimoto	?
20:48:15	sam686	yes, maybe just attachNearbyEnemies(1-aggression)
20:48:20	sam686	then doObjective()
20:48:53	Watusimoto	ok, great
20:49:17	Watusimoto	I'm trying to modernize and cleanup the structure of s_bot
20:49:29	Watusimoto	unfortunately, I ahve not found as many things I can push to C++ as I had hoped
20:49:40	Watusimoto	but that's just its nature
20:56:41		BFLogBot - Commit 18838fb1b95e \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Remove duplicate call to doObjective
21:46:48		BFLogBot - Commit c787b84242cb \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Comments
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22:31:09	raptor	hi
22:31:23	raptor	so, what is left for release? :)
22:35:39	koda	so this is the crude diff https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24468/bitfighter.diff
22:35:45	koda	but i'll start working on a patch now
22:36:08	raptor	hi koda
22:36:16	koda	hi raptor :)
22:39:23	raptor	was that it? just add the args to main()?
22:39:37	koda	raptor i told you it was crude :p
22:39:53	koda	how is the first launch performed on other platforms?
22:40:02	raptor	uh
22:40:18	raptor	there isn't really a first-launch directive
22:40:35	raptor	it does a couple checks though if it's an updated version or if the INI doesn't exist...
22:41:22	raptor	did you have to point the project to the binary instead of the wrapper script somewhere?
22:41:28	raptor	(i don't see that in the diff)
22:41:42	koda	yes had to modify my info.plist
22:42:45	koda	i'm trying on a clean clone
22:42:51	koda	so it'll be easier to understand
22:42:55	raptor	ok :)
22:43:04	raptor	also, i fixed libmodplug in the interim...
22:43:08	raptor	the headers, i mean
22:43:20	koda	ah neat :)
22:45:36	sam686	One of an editor complaint I hear from Amgine is, can't delete teleporter in editor (probably when you select a vertex and not the whole thing making pressing backspace not delete when it will when the whole thing selected.
22:46:00	raptor	please add it to the buglist if you've duplicated it
22:46:45	koda	ok refresh the patch to see the full diff
22:47:02	raptor	koda: do you know about 'hg serve'?
22:47:36	koda	yes but it'll be easier to push to my clone :p
22:47:50	raptor	did you add the .sh?
22:48:40	koda	yes hold on
22:56:34	koda	oooo nice there are .mm files too
22:56:58	raptor	um
22:57:01	raptor	for SDL?
22:57:20	raptor	i've never gotten the hang of Obj-c/c++ yet...
22:58:01	koda	Directory.mm does that
22:58:09	koda	oh but it's not a full class
22:58:11	koda	oh well
22:59:40	raptor	oh yeah... forgot about that class..
22:59:54	raptor	called from main()
23:15:00	koda	raptor: https://code.google.com/r/vittoriogiovara-bitfighter
23:15:26	raptor	setting up a pull alias...
23:16:00	koda	still thinking about a clean way of setting up the right way of sending arguments to the executables...
23:16:23	koda	how about some default values if -rootdatadir is not passed in?
23:16:42	raptor	I think that seems fine, especially for Mac
23:16:54	raptor	can you hijack moveToAppPath() for that?
23:17:18	raptor	my poor wrapper script is gone :(
23:17:21	raptor	yay
23:18:21	raptor	LGTM
23:18:36	koda	lgtm?
23:18:42	raptor	looks good to me
23:18:58	raptor	about your commits
23:19:05	koda	\o/
23:20:15	raptor	also... what do the two '@' mean in this (as a matter of academic interest...): stringWithFormat:@"%@/firstlaunch-osx.sh"
23:22:00		BFLogBot - Commit 6bcabf9c3778 \| Author: koda \| Log: make xcode happy by not using wrapper script
23:22:01		BFLogBot - Commit b9279dd396a8 \| Author: koda \| Log: restore launching the setup script
23:25:27	koda	the @"" is just a shortcut for NSString
23:25:38	raptor	ah ok
23:25:47	koda	and %@ is how to reference a nsstring inside " " blocks
23:26:01	raptor	interesting
23:26:03	raptor	ok, thanks
23:33:54	koda	ok to hijack the default values
23:34:04	koda	i can put another function in directory.mm
23:34:12	koda	but how can i pass argVector?
23:34:34	koda	i get isoc++ forbids vector declaration etc etc
23:35:03	raptor	we use a std::vector wrapper called TNL::Vector
23:35:31	raptor	could you just pass in argc
23:35:32	raptor	?
23:36:05	koda	yes but then i'd need to reallocate argv/argc which should be readonly
23:36:26	raptor	is it becasue of using Vector (as opposed to vector [with little 'v'])?
23:36:45	raptor	because you can get the innerVector by doing argVector.getStlVector()
23:40:11	koda	well even after adding the right includes (tlnTypes no?) it still doesn't know what's Vector
23:41:17	raptor	grab lower case vector with .getStlVector()
23:42:17	koda	and then use void setDefaultPaths(const vector<string> &argv); as prototype?
23:42:25	raptor	yes
23:42:32	raptor	(or at leasy try...)
23:42:36	koda	same error
23:42:48	raptor	hmm
23:42:56	koda	with and without using namespace std
23:43:59	koda	i'm starting to think that this is a .mm compatibility thing
23:45:48	raptor	the internet seems to think the solution is to use std::
23:46:07	koda	void setDefaultPaths(const std::vector<string> &argv);
23:46:12	koda	fails :(
23:46:27	raptor	#include <vector>
23:46:28	raptor	?
23:46:47	koda	umh
23:46:58	koda	i get "string was not declared in this scope
23:47:11	koda	but lo
23:47:14	koda	std::string fixes
23:47:22	raptor	ha
23:48:04	koda	yesss it compiles, thanks
23:48:26	raptor	guess-and-check to the rescue!
23:48:43	sam686	I hate that stupid windows-only screen saver supressor, it keeps making my alt-tab not work (hold down alt, and cometimes my TAB stops responding till ALT is release)
23:49:09	raptor	maybe add an INI option? :)
23:49:29	raptor	useStupidWindowsScreensaverSuppression=no
23:57:08	koda	using TLN::Vector works too
23:57:18	koda	but i can't use its methods for some reason
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23:58:33	raptor	it's an evil c++ template
23:59:39	koda	error: passing 'const TNL::Vector<std::string>' as 'this' argument of 'bool TNL::Vector<T>::contains(const T&) [with T = std::string]' discards qualifiers