#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-12-07

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00:05:03 Fordcars bye guys I have to go
00:05:09 Fordcars later!
00:05:20 raptor bye
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04:15:15 Fordcars hi
04:16:46 CrazyLinuxNerd Hey Fordcars
04:21:48 Fordcars hey
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13:30:02 raptor good morning
13:51:44 BFLogBot Commit: a77f06b3dbe2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix printf statement 
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13:55:34 raptor sam686: there is a level on your server:  'Retrievix', that doesn't have any flags in it.
13:55:59 raptor I downloaded it and there are no flags in the source, but i want to see the original to make sure it isn't an 018 bug
13:56:09 raptor (downloaded through /getmap)
14:07:41 raptor watusimoto: do you think I should give out the level design contest winner badge to previous winners?
14:36:08 watusimoto hi
14:36:22 raptor hi
14:37:02 watusimoto um... I don't know.  what do you think?
14:37:32 watusimoto the idea is to create an incentive moving forward, no?
14:37:49 raptor yes
14:38:06 watusimoto then maybe badges for new winners only?
14:38:07 raptor which is why i only gave bbb participation to those from september and not earlier
14:38:16 watusimoto though I can hear the howls now
14:38:27 raptor i already got a request for the level design...
14:38:33 watusimoto though past level contest winners got a real prize
14:38:44 raptor yes, except the most recent
14:38:48 raptor which was the request
14:39:07 watusimoto do we even have a level design contest winner badge?
14:39:10 raptor maybe just the one?
14:39:23 raptor do we need any badge?
14:39:24 watusimoto I could live with that
14:39:37 watusimoto isn't that what we're talking bout?
14:40:22 raptor i think the level design badge is good for at least some minor reward since we don't have real prizes..
14:41:26 watusimoto so we really have two questions: 1) should we have a level design badge and 2) should it be awarded retroactivley
14:42:17 raptor we'll we have it (did you oppose it's creation before?)
14:42:26 raptor and #2, i think only the latest contest
14:43:14 watusimoto wait, we have it now?  (sorry, my head is a bit muddled)
14:43:17 raptor yes
14:43:24 raptor i made it like 4 months ago
14:43:27 watusimoto ok, I thought you said we didn't
14:43:30 watusimoto so 1 is moot
14:43:31 raptor oh sorry
14:43:34 raptor my mistake
14:43:43 raptor yeah, it exists, and someone was asking for it...
14:43:57 watusimoto who wants it?
14:44:03 raptor i wonder if anyone will get the ZC badge...
14:44:05 watusimoto or shoudl I ask in case tha tmuddies my thinking
14:44:52 raptor santiago zap
14:44:56 raptor i think...
14:44:59 watusimoto :-)
14:45:01 raptor he was the winner of the last contest..
14:45:23 watusimoto yeah sure, let's give it to him because there was no prize
14:47:03 raptor ok
14:47:13 watusimoto we're such pushovers
14:47:35 raptor haha
14:48:42 watusimoto makes me questoin my parenting skills
14:49:01 watusimoto I should be able to say no with no remorese
14:49:37 raptor as long it's for your own kids
14:50:17 raptor others get a break because they're not under my stewardship...  at least that what i keep telling myself
14:55:42 raptor except for that one pushy neighbor kid - i'm usually just as strict with her...  :)
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15:25:56 watusimoto hi koda
15:26:15 kodabbws ihello watusimoto
15:26:22 raptor koda is here 3 times!
15:26:37 watusimoto gci question: what do you think we should do when raptor goes on vacation next week?  that would leave us with just me as a mentor, and I' on europe time
15:26:59 kodabbws waves at himself three times
15:27:08 kodabbws watusimoto, simple hide in a corner and cry
15:27:18 watusimoto good... that was my plan
15:27:27 kodabbws but more seriously, i've been soloing for most of gci so it's quite bearable
15:27:33 kodabbws even with time differences and all
15:27:48 kodabbws plus you have only a few tassks
15:27:56 kodabbws btw were they plublished?
15:28:02 watusimoto if our current student load continues, I'll probably manage
15:28:02 kodabbws insist with arc if not!
15:28:08 watusimoto ues, tasks are published
15:28:10 watusimoto yes
15:28:13 kodabbws yay
15:28:13 raptor haha
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15:30:49 kodabbws is alone again... naturally
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16:42:03 raptor to work!
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17:32:24 raptor i'm taking an even harder physics class next semester...
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17:57:36 raptor http://pastie.org/5495013
17:57:41 raptor ^^ little_apple's crash
17:59:53 raptor happens everytime
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18:46:47 Little_Apple helloo
18:47:56 Little_Apple raptor i found out some more details about the crashing
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19:35:04 raptor hi
19:35:07 raptor and bye
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19:58:25 Martinski hey guys
19:58:32 Martinski nice to see a new project in GCI
20:03:32 raptor hello!
20:03:43 raptor yes, we're a fledging group  :)
20:08:10 raptor watusimoto: i assigned my first task!
20:08:47 raptor Martinski: are you the claimant on that one task?
20:08:56 raptor if so, i just assigned it to you  :)
20:11:40 Martinski yes
20:11:48 Martinski thank you
20:11:57 raptor thank you!
20:12:08 Martinski only after I finish the task :D
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20:22:53 Martinski I have a question
20:22:57 raptor ok
20:23:16 Martinski I can use windows to install the game right ?
20:23:56 raptor yes
20:24:18 Martinski Do I need something special to install it from source code ?
20:24:37 raptor you'd need to compile it yourself
20:24:54 raptor we use mercurial for version control
20:24:59 Martinski ok, first I;ll try to clone it to my pc
20:25:17 raptor ok, what platform do you prefer?  we have it set up to compile and run on windows/mac/linux
20:25:35 Martinski well I feel comfortable on my windows xp
20:26:15 raptor ok, Watusimoto_ and sam686 are our windows developers - they use visual studio 2008/2010 to compile it
20:26:43 Martinski are they here right now ?
20:26:47 raptor i *think* msys-mingw will work, too - sam686 did some work in that to compile recently; but i'm not sure it will work
20:26:54 raptor Watusimoto_: you here?
20:27:07 Martinski are you the linux-man :D
20:27:15 Martinski I have ubuntu too, so I can try there
20:27:19 raptor yes...  at least i try to be  :)
20:27:21 Martinski in order to begin work sooner
20:27:33 Martinski starting my ubuntu now
20:32:57 Martinski To install using apt-get:
20:32:57 Martinski Go to System-Administration-Software Sources, Third-Party Software tab, Add:
20:33:04 Martinski uhm can you help me with this ?
20:33:47 raptor look here:  http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Building_Bitfighter#Linux
20:34:09 raptor i don't think ubuntu has a package yet, so you'll have to compile from source for it
20:35:02 raptor are you OK with the command line?
20:38:23 Watusimoto_ hi
20:39:04 Watusimoto_ I've never been able to compile from mingw, but it's been years since I tried
20:40:01 Watusimoto_ I think the easiest thing would be to download the repo in windows and use VC++... it's a reasonably good ide, and it should be easy to get going with that
20:40:16 raptor hi Watusimoto_
20:41:34 Watusimoto_ so here's an idea... maybe we could sell 1gb memory sticks with bitfighter portable installed on it
20:41:52 raptor hA!
20:41:54 Watusimoto_ amazon is selling 1gb sticks for < $2
20:41:58 raptor !!
20:42:07 Watusimoto_ or heck, use that for bbb prizes
20:42:23 Watusimoto_ call it the bitstick
20:42:33 Watusimoto_ bitdrive, fightstick
20:42:35 raptor zapstack
20:43:06 Watusimoto_ I figure the 1gb sticks aren't good for much else
20:43:29 raptor they're create for Linux live CDs
20:43:44 Watusimoto_ I can't imaginge they're still being made
20:43:57 Watusimoto_ so Martinski are you here for gci?
20:44:40 Martinski oh yes
20:44:54 Martinski sry I wasn't here
20:45:00 Martinski well I am here for GCI definitely
20:45:30 raptor Watusimoto_: did  you get the e-mail that he requested a task
20:45:35 raptor i approved :)
20:47:07 Watusimoto_ so, no I didn;t get the email
20:47:20 Watusimoto_ oh wait... yest I did!
20:47:24 raptor if you go here:  http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8011213
20:47:26 raptor oh
20:47:27 raptor ok
20:47:28 raptor good
20:47:43 Watusimoto_ icons?
20:48:01 raptor yes
20:49:22 Watusimoto_ I'm going to see if I can get our nsis build system to spit out a portable package
20:49:48 raptor one interesting thing:  i tried to make a .standalone file in windows, it had a fit
20:50:18 raptor so maybe we should make it '_standalone' instead or something
20:53:54 Watusimoto_ or just standalone
20:54:23 Watusimoto_ or just and an empty .ini file
20:54:31 Martinski after I clone
20:54:32 raptor oh yeah
20:54:48 Martinski should I do this ?# Update to the tag/revision you want
20:54:48 Martinski cd bitfighter
20:54:48 Martinski hg up bitfighter-018
20:54:57 Martinski some kind of revision stuff
20:54:59 raptor yes
20:55:07 raptor that puts you to the latest released revision
20:55:25 raptor so you don't arrive at our broken code..
20:55:51 Martinski ok
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21:00:34 raptor i'll be back in about 1/2 hour..
21:03:13 Martinski gives little problems
21:03:21 Martinski with loading the sounds
21:03:25 Martinski but shouldn't be a problem
21:14:37 Martinski Guys, I'm going for a sleep now, see you tomorrow :)
21:17:25 Watusimoto_ ok, good night!
21:17:32 Watusimoto_ oh, Martinski, what time zone are you in?
21:18:25 Martinski utc +2
21:18:27 Martinski and you ?
21:19:55 Watusimoto_ utc +1
21:19:59 Watusimoto_ raptor is in the us
21:20:09 Watusimoto_ on utc + 8 or 9
21:20:12 Watusimoto_ or so
21:20:26 Watusimoto_ I'll be on and off tomorrow
21:20:44 Martinski ok, because tomorrow in the afternoon I have lessons
21:20:50 Watusimoto_ what country are you in?
21:20:55 Martinski so I'll be here in the morning and in the evening
21:20:58 Martinski Bulgaria
21:21:01 Watusimoto_ I'm in Luxembourg
21:21:04 Martinski nice
21:21:07 Watusimoto_ I visited Sophia many years ago
21:21:14 Martinski do you liked it ?
21:21:17 Watusimoto_ I did
21:21:28 Martinski it changes very rapidly ;d
21:21:36 Watusimoto_ though I was scammed out of a lot of money there
21:21:57 Watusimoto_ I liked the core of the city.  The outer parts less so.
21:22:03 Martinski :D
21:22:38 Watusimoto_ well, anyway, welcome to our little project
21:23:37 Martinski thank you
21:23:41 Martinski it looks interesting
21:23:44 Martinski I started the game
21:23:54 Darrel it's addicting :D
21:23:55 Darrel and hi
21:23:58 Darrel :)
21:24:56 Watusimoto_ hi
21:25:05 Martinski hi Darrel
21:25:46 Darrel Great, a mentor that is in a timezone close to mine!
21:25:55 Darrel I'm from Bulgaria like Martinski
21:26:08 Watusimoto_ great
21:26:18 Watusimoto_ I met a bunch of bulgarians hiking in solvenia this summer
21:26:39 Darrel :)
21:26:43 Darrel https://plus.google.com/communities/106916826680113110349
21:26:50 Darrel if anyone here has Google+ profile
21:26:56 Darrel come join our community :)
21:28:01 Watusimoto_ you guys need to run a bulgarian bitfighter server!
21:28:23 Martinski that's a great idea
21:28:37 Martinski ok, leaving now, because I need sleep :D:D
21:28:40 Martinski bye
21:28:43 Darrel yeah some here :D
21:28:48 Darrel night
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21:32:14 raptor hi i'm back
21:32:46 raptor utc - 7
21:32:51 raptor -7
21:33:46 Watusimoto_ Darrel: are you the same Darrel from pysoy?
21:33:53 Darrel yeah
21:35:04 raptor Watusimoto_: you can assign the task that has been claimed  http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8029210
21:36:34 Watusimoto_ ok, I think I did it
21:36:50 raptor great!
21:36:54 Watusimoto_ it's just a toggle -- I expcected to assign it to someone
21:37:52 Watusimoto_ raptor: somewhere along the line our mac notifier task got lost
21:38:04 raptor oh.. i didn't even know there was one...
21:38:11 Watusimoto_ there _was_ one
21:38:19 raptor heh
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21:50:27 raptor oh, if you didn't see it, Watusimoto_, here is the stack trace from Little_Apple's crashy map:  http://pastie.org/5495013
21:50:59 raptor it looks like a memory corruption
21:58:21 Watusimoto_ oh goodie
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22:05:00 Watusimoto_ double delete?  but that string is a reference, I think
22:05:20 raptor i got the same trace twice
22:05:23 Watusimoto_ wait -- is this reliable?
22:05:24 raptor thrice
22:05:50 raptor use the level file here:  http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1624&p=16443#p16440
22:05:58 raptor load it in editor, then quit editor
22:06:00 raptor crash!
22:27:17 koda oh finally some gci spam from bitfighter too :)
22:27:24 raptor yes!
22:28:47 Watusimoto_ so koda, I'd like to ask a favor
22:29:26 koda sure
22:29:39 Watusimoto_ when raptor is out of town, if you're around and I'm not and a student stops by, would you help get them under control?
22:30:01 koda i'll try my best
22:30:31 koda i can easily become "formal" mentor of one task as we're under the same org
22:30:31 Watusimoto_ I don't necessarily mean like here;s how you solve this problem, more like you want to talk to watusimoto, and he should be around later kind of thing
22:30:52 Watusimoto_ that's up to you
22:34:35 Watusimoto_ so I get no crash on that level
22:35:13 Watusimoto_ anyway koda, thanks!
22:35:16 raptor maybe we're missing a safeptr..
22:35:18 koda i can do that, don't worry :)
22:35:35 raptor more hedgewars spam...
22:35:53 raptor oh, we need to rethink our start-up UI so koda can continue hacking on iOS
22:35:56 raptor :)
22:36:05 koda there is a task for that!
22:36:11 koda or not? boooo
22:36:50 Watusimoto_ I think my proposal is still viable
22:37:01 Watusimoto_ start straight to main menu
22:37:12 Watusimoto_ have a "Hello DorkyHead" line
22:37:21 raptor haha
22:37:21 Watusimoto_ and a way to change it
22:37:32 Watusimoto_ maybe under options?
22:37:57 Watusimoto_ and then rewrite things to handle changing nick while connected to master
22:38:50 Watusimoto_ so do you know what platform little apple was using?
22:38:56 raptor would we want everything on the nameentry screen somewhere?  like  username, password, save?
22:39:04 raptor Little_apple was on Mac
22:39:12 raptor probably - like 95% change
22:39:31 Watusimoto_ maybe it's platform specific
22:39:43 raptor real POSIX only - we crash
22:41:17 raptor Watusimoto_: would you oppose me to making Vector<AbstractTeam *> mTeams
22:41:31 raptor a Vector<SafePtr<AbstractTeam> > ?
22:41:38 Watusimoto_ well, there's no pointers in LineEditor so no idea
22:41:49 Watusimoto_ why would I oppose that?  you probably have a good reason to do it
22:42:22 raptor i think it's a race condition with deleting subclasses of AbstractTeam after AbstractTeam is deleted
22:42:31 raptor which means missing virtual destructor?
22:42:33 raptor somwhere?
22:43:16 Watusimoto_ LineEditor has virtual destructor, though that;s not likely the problem
22:43:32 Watusimoto_ LineEditor::~LineEditor()
22:43:33 Watusimoto_ {
22:43:33 Watusimoto_    ;
22:43:33 Watusimoto_ }
22:43:34 Watusimoto_ ????
22:43:38 raptor haha
22:44:46 raptor EditorTeam constructor has:
22:44:48 raptor  mNameEditor = LineEditor(MAX_TEAM_NAME_LENGTH);
22:45:01 raptor does that need to be a 'new' ?
22:45:25 raptor seems odd to do that in c++..
22:45:57 BFLogBot Commit: 7c40b380432b | Author: watusimoto | Message: Make ugly things a little less so 
22:46:02 BFLogBot Commit: 06e7e15863f0 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge 
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22:46:57 Fordcars hi
22:47:03 raptor hi
22:48:02 raptor we shoudl do a GCI task:  Convert all raw pointers to SafePtr
22:48:28 Fordcars do it mate
22:48:37 Fordcars and get a t-shirt :D
22:49:01 Watusimoto_ that constructor would be better written
22:49:02 Watusimoto_ EditorTeam::EditorTeam() : mNameEditor(LineEditor(MAX_TEAM_NAME_LENGTH))
22:49:02 Watusimoto_ {
22:49:02 Watusimoto_    // Do nothing
22:49:02 Watusimoto_ }
22:49:17 Watusimoto_ do you want to do this, or should I?
22:49:28 Watusimoto_ (if you're working on the file, you should do it)
22:49:32 raptor you can...
22:49:37 Watusimoto_ ok
22:49:38 raptor i'm not, yet
22:49:42 Watusimoto_ that's not the problem, though
22:50:30 Watusimoto_ but it wills save a (very) few cpu cycles
22:50:44 raptor I think EditorTeam is being deleted before LineEditor or other some such nonsense
22:50:55 BFLogBot Commit: 99240e9109e8 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Move intializer to initialzation list 
22:51:09 Watusimoto_ why do you think that?
22:51:16 raptor just a hunch
22:52:05 Watusimoto_ search for <space><tilda>  (" ~")
22:52:22 Watusimoto_ that will find all the destructor sigs, and you can see if there are any relevant ones that aren't virtual
22:52:35 raptor ok
22:53:15 Watusimoto_ if you still think that's the problem
22:53:51 Watusimoto_ wait a minute
22:53:56 Watusimoto_ this from the stack trace
22:53:57 Watusimoto_ #5  0x00000000006035ae in Zap::LineEditor::~LineEditor (this=0x10e8e28, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at lineEditor.cpp:47
22:53:57 Watusimoto_ #6  0x00000000006a24da in Zap::EditorTeam::~EditorTeam (this=0x10e8e10, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at teamInfo.cpp:247
22:53:57 Watusimoto_ #7  0x00000000006a253a in Zap::EditorTeam::~EditorTeam (this=0x10e8e10, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at teamInfo.cpp:250
22:53:57 Watusimoto_ #8  0x00000000006a36c7 in TNL::Vector<Zap::AbstractTeam*>::deleteAndClear (this=0x10e3ba0) at ../tnl/tnlVector.h:269
22:54:09 Watusimoto_ why is ~EditorTeam being called twice?
22:54:33 raptor huh
22:55:09 raptor are there two pointers to it in the TeamManager?
22:56:21 Watusimoto_ line 247 is beginningof desctructor, 250 is end of it
22:56:39 Watusimoto_ recompile that file?
22:56:45 raptor i did
22:56:47 raptor same trace
22:56:57 raptor full recompiled
22:58:45 raptor bitfighter: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x00007ffff6731481 ***
22:58:51 raptor *** glibc detected ***
23:04:23 raptor is time to ask forgiveness of that one guy who wrote all of our music?
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23:17:07 amgine1234567890 hi =)
23:17:12 amgine1234567890 anything going on?
23:17:47 amgine1234567890 btw i noticed the seeker eplosin sound is the same as the burst sound maybe you ocvuld make the seeker explosin sound lower
23:19:14 amgine1234567890 and on another realted not i had a idea that if you pressed a key( i was thinking tab) you would toggle between global and team voice chat cause right now voice chat is only team=p and it seems rather under utulized it would be great when bitfighter gets more people.
23:20:29 amgine1234567890 and to furhter continue my ideas of what could be added to bitfighter by version 20 is the new game modes virus (its in the forums) night (also in the forums) and maybe bungee option (also in forums). would be cool
23:21:01 amgine1234567890 im excitecd to see how far bitfighter goes
23:22:33 amgine1234567890 and hopefully eventully (by version 30 lol) that bitfighter will be put online and no longer require a download (though i htink that would be good to keep teh downloaded versions so people can use it if for some reason th esite is blocked.)
23:22:52 amgine1234567890 ok im done lol sorry for that massive flood of ideas
23:27:49 amgine1234567890 btw on the chat idea chat would be made auto no need to hold a key down
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13:30:02	raptor	good morning
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13:55:34	raptor	sam686: there is a level on your server: 'Retrievix', that doesn't have any flags in it.
13:55:59	raptor	I downloaded it and there are no flags in the source, but i want to see the original to make sure it isn't an 018 bug
13:56:09	raptor	(downloaded through /getmap)
14:07:41	raptor	watusimoto: do you think I should give out the level design contest winner badge to previous winners?
14:36:08	watusimoto	hi
14:36:22	raptor	hi
14:37:02	watusimoto	um... I don't know. what do you think?
14:37:32	watusimoto	the idea is to create an incentive moving forward, no?
14:37:49	raptor	yes
14:38:06	watusimoto	then maybe badges for new winners only?
14:38:07	raptor	which is why i only gave bbb participation to those from september and not earlier
14:38:16	watusimoto	though I can hear the howls now
14:38:27	raptor	i already got a request for the level design...
14:38:33	watusimoto	though past level contest winners got a real prize
14:38:44	raptor	yes, except the most recent
14:38:48	raptor	which was the request
14:39:07	watusimoto	do we even have a level design contest winner badge?
14:39:10	raptor	maybe just the one?
14:39:23	raptor	do we need any badge?
14:39:24	watusimoto	I could live with that
14:39:37	watusimoto	isn't that what we're talking bout?
14:40:22	raptor	i think the level design badge is good for at least some minor reward since we don't have real prizes..
14:41:26	watusimoto	so we really have two questions: 1) should we have a level design badge and 2) should it be awarded retroactivley
14:42:17	raptor	we'll we have it (did you oppose it's creation before?)
14:42:26	raptor	and #2, i think only the latest contest
14:43:14	watusimoto	wait, we have it now? (sorry, my head is a bit muddled)
14:43:17	raptor	yes
14:43:24	raptor	i made it like 4 months ago
14:43:27	watusimoto	ok, I thought you said we didn't
14:43:30	watusimoto	so 1 is moot
14:43:31	raptor	oh sorry
14:43:34	raptor	my mistake
14:43:43	raptor	yeah, it exists, and someone was asking for it...
14:43:57	watusimoto	who wants it?
14:44:03	raptor	i wonder if anyone will get the ZC badge...
14:44:05	watusimoto	or shoudl I ask in case tha tmuddies my thinking
14:44:52	raptor	santiago zap
14:44:56	raptor	i think...
14:44:59	watusimoto	:-)
14:45:01	raptor	he was the winner of the last contest..
14:45:23	watusimoto	yeah sure, let's give it to him because there was no prize
14:47:03	raptor	ok
14:47:13	watusimoto	we're such pushovers
14:47:35	raptor	haha
14:48:42	watusimoto	makes me questoin my parenting skills
14:49:01	watusimoto	I should be able to say no with no remorese
14:49:37	raptor	as long it's for your own kids
14:50:17	raptor	others get a break because they're not under my stewardship... at least that what i keep telling myself
14:55:42	raptor	except for that one pushy neighbor kid - i'm usually just as strict with her... :)
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15:25:56	watusimoto	hi koda
15:26:15	kodabbws	ihello watusimoto
15:26:22	raptor	koda is here 3 times!
15:26:37	watusimoto	gci question: what do you think we should do when raptor goes on vacation next week? that would leave us with just me as a mentor, and I' on europe time
15:26:59		kodabbws waves at himself three times
15:27:08	kodabbws	watusimoto, simple hide in a corner and cry
15:27:18	watusimoto	good... that was my plan
15:27:27	kodabbws	but more seriously, i've been soloing for most of gci so it's quite bearable
15:27:33	kodabbws	even with time differences and all
15:27:48	kodabbws	plus you have only a few tassks
15:27:56	kodabbws	btw were they plublished?
15:28:02	watusimoto	if our current student load continues, I'll probably manage
15:28:02	kodabbws	insist with arc if not!
15:28:08	watusimoto	ues, tasks are published
15:28:10	watusimoto	yes
15:28:13	kodabbws	yay
15:28:13	raptor	haha
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16:42:03	raptor	to work!
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17:32:24	raptor	i'm taking an even harder physics class next semester...
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17:57:36	raptor	http://pastie.org/5495013
17:57:41	raptor	^^ little_apple's crash
17:59:53	raptor	happens everytime
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18:46:47	Little_Apple	helloo
18:47:56	Little_Apple	raptor i found out some more details about the crashing
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19:35:04	raptor	hi
19:35:07	raptor	and bye
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19:58:25	Martinski	hey guys
19:58:32	Martinski	nice to see a new project in GCI
20:03:32	raptor	hello!
20:03:43	raptor	yes, we're a fledging group :)
20:08:10	raptor	watusimoto: i assigned my first task!
20:08:47	raptor	Martinski: are you the claimant on that one task?
20:08:56	raptor	if so, i just assigned it to you :)
20:11:40	Martinski	yes
20:11:48	Martinski	thank you
20:11:57	raptor	thank you!
20:12:08	Martinski	only after I finish the task :D
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20:22:53	Martinski	I have a question
20:22:57	raptor	ok
20:23:16	Martinski	I can use windows to install the game right ?
20:23:56	raptor	yes
20:24:18	Martinski	Do I need something special to install it from source code ?
20:24:37	raptor	you'd need to compile it yourself
20:24:54	raptor	we use mercurial for version control
20:24:59	Martinski	ok, first I;ll try to clone it to my pc
20:25:17	raptor	ok, what platform do you prefer? we have it set up to compile and run on windows/mac/linux
20:25:35	Martinski	well I feel comfortable on my windows xp
20:26:15	raptor	ok, Watusimoto_ and sam686 are our windows developers - they use visual studio 2008/2010 to compile it
20:26:43	Martinski	are they here right now ?
20:26:47	raptor	i think msys-mingw will work, too - sam686 did some work in that to compile recently; but i'm not sure it will work
20:26:54	raptor	Watusimoto_: you here?
20:27:07	Martinski	are you the linux-man :D
20:27:15	Martinski	I have ubuntu too, so I can try there
20:27:19	raptor	yes... at least i try to be :)
20:27:21	Martinski	in order to begin work sooner
20:27:33	Martinski	starting my ubuntu now
20:32:57	Martinski	To install using apt-get:
20:32:57	Martinski	Go to System-Administration-Software Sources, Third-Party Software tab, Add:
20:33:04	Martinski	uhm can you help me with this ?
20:33:47	raptor	look here: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Building_Bitfighter#Linux
20:34:09	raptor	i don't think ubuntu has a package yet, so you'll have to compile from source for it
20:35:02	raptor	are you OK with the command line?
20:38:23	Watusimoto_	hi
20:39:04	Watusimoto_	I've never been able to compile from mingw, but it's been years since I tried
20:40:01	Watusimoto_	I think the easiest thing would be to download the repo in windows and use VC++... it's a reasonably good ide, and it should be easy to get going with that
20:40:16	raptor	hi Watusimoto_
20:41:34	Watusimoto_	so here's an idea... maybe we could sell 1gb memory sticks with bitfighter portable installed on it
20:41:52	raptor	hA!
20:41:54	Watusimoto_	amazon is selling 1gb sticks for < $2
20:41:58	raptor	!!
20:42:07	Watusimoto_	or heck, use that for bbb prizes
20:42:23	Watusimoto_	call it the bitstick
20:42:33	Watusimoto_	bitdrive, fightstick
20:42:35	raptor	zapstack
20:43:06	Watusimoto_	I figure the 1gb sticks aren't good for much else
20:43:29	raptor	they're create for Linux live CDs
20:43:44	Watusimoto_	I can't imaginge they're still being made
20:43:57	Watusimoto_	so Martinski are you here for gci?
20:44:40	Martinski	oh yes
20:44:54	Martinski	sry I wasn't here
20:45:00	Martinski	well I am here for GCI definitely
20:45:30	raptor	Watusimoto_: did you get the e-mail that he requested a task
20:45:35	raptor	i approved :)
20:47:07	Watusimoto_	so, no I didn;t get the email
20:47:20	Watusimoto_	oh wait... yest I did!
20:47:24	raptor	if you go here: http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8011213
20:47:26	raptor	oh
20:47:27	raptor	ok
20:47:28	raptor	good
20:47:43	Watusimoto_	icons?
20:48:01	raptor	yes
20:49:22	Watusimoto_	I'm going to see if I can get our nsis build system to spit out a portable package
20:49:48	raptor	one interesting thing: i tried to make a .standalone file in windows, it had a fit
20:50:18	raptor	so maybe we should make it '_standalone' instead or something
20:53:54	Watusimoto_	or just standalone
20:54:23	Watusimoto_	or just and an empty .ini file
20:54:31	Martinski	after I clone
20:54:32	raptor	oh yeah
20:54:48	Martinski	should I do this ?# Update to the tag/revision you want
20:54:48	Martinski	cd bitfighter
20:54:48	Martinski	hg up bitfighter-018
20:54:57	Martinski	some kind of revision stuff
20:54:59	raptor	yes
20:55:07	raptor	that puts you to the latest released revision
20:55:25	raptor	so you don't arrive at our broken code..
20:55:51	Martinski	ok
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21:00:34	raptor	i'll be back in about 1/2 hour..
21:03:13	Martinski	gives little problems
21:03:21	Martinski	with loading the sounds
21:03:25	Martinski	but shouldn't be a problem
21:14:37	Martinski	Guys, I'm going for a sleep now, see you tomorrow :)
21:17:25	Watusimoto_	ok, good night!
21:17:32	Watusimoto_	oh, Martinski, what time zone are you in?
21:18:25	Martinski	utc +2
21:18:27	Martinski	and you ?
21:19:55	Watusimoto_	utc +1
21:19:59	Watusimoto_	raptor is in the us
21:20:09	Watusimoto_	on utc + 8 or 9
21:20:12	Watusimoto_	or so
21:20:26	Watusimoto_	I'll be on and off tomorrow
21:20:44	Martinski	ok, because tomorrow in the afternoon I have lessons
21:20:50	Watusimoto_	what country are you in?
21:20:55	Martinski	so I'll be here in the morning and in the evening
21:20:58	Martinski	Bulgaria
21:21:01	Watusimoto_	I'm in Luxembourg
21:21:04	Martinski	nice
21:21:07	Watusimoto_	I visited Sophia many years ago
21:21:14	Martinski	do you liked it ?
21:21:17	Watusimoto_	I did
21:21:28	Martinski	it changes very rapidly ;d
21:21:36	Watusimoto_	though I was scammed out of a lot of money there
21:21:57	Watusimoto_	I liked the core of the city. The outer parts less so.
21:22:03	Martinski	:D
21:22:38	Watusimoto_	well, anyway, welcome to our little project
21:23:37	Martinski	thank you
21:23:41	Martinski	it looks interesting
21:23:44	Martinski	I started the game
21:23:54	Darrel	it's addicting :D
21:23:55	Darrel	and hi
21:23:58	Darrel	:)
21:24:56	Watusimoto_	hi
21:25:05	Martinski	hi Darrel
21:25:46	Darrel	Great, a mentor that is in a timezone close to mine!
21:25:55	Darrel	I'm from Bulgaria like Martinski
21:26:08	Watusimoto_	great
21:26:18	Watusimoto_	I met a bunch of bulgarians hiking in solvenia this summer
21:26:39	Darrel	:)
21:26:43	Darrel	https://plus.google.com/communities/106916826680113110349
21:26:50	Darrel	if anyone here has Google+ profile
21:26:56	Darrel	come join our community :)
21:28:01	Watusimoto_	you guys need to run a bulgarian bitfighter server!
21:28:23	Martinski	that's a great idea
21:28:37	Martinski	ok, leaving now, because I need sleep :D:D
21:28:40	Martinski	bye
21:28:43	Darrel	yeah some here :D
21:28:48	Darrel	night
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21:32:14	raptor	hi i'm back
21:32:46	raptor	utc - 7
21:32:51	raptor	-7
21:33:46	Watusimoto_	Darrel: are you the same Darrel from pysoy?
21:33:53	Darrel	yeah
21:35:04	raptor	Watusimoto_: you can assign the task that has been claimed http://www.google-melange.com/gci/task/view/google/gci2012/8029210
21:36:34	Watusimoto_	ok, I think I did it
21:36:50	raptor	great!
21:36:54	Watusimoto_	it's just a toggle -- I expcected to assign it to someone
21:37:52	Watusimoto_	raptor: somewhere along the line our mac notifier task got lost
21:38:04	raptor	oh.. i didn't even know there was one...
21:38:11	Watusimoto_	there _was_ one
21:38:19	raptor	heh
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21:50:27	raptor	oh, if you didn't see it, Watusimoto_, here is the stack trace from Little_Apple's crashy map: http://pastie.org/5495013
21:50:59	raptor	it looks like a memory corruption
21:58:21	Watusimoto_	oh goodie
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22:05:00	Watusimoto_	double delete? but that string is a reference, I think
22:05:20	raptor	i got the same trace twice
22:05:23	Watusimoto_	wait -- is this reliable?
22:05:24	raptor	thrice
22:05:50	raptor	use the level file here: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1624&p=16443#p16440
22:05:58	raptor	load it in editor, then quit editor
22:06:00	raptor	crash!
22:27:17	koda	oh finally some gci spam from bitfighter too :)
22:27:24	raptor	yes!
22:28:47	Watusimoto_	so koda, I'd like to ask a favor
22:29:26	koda	sure
22:29:39	Watusimoto_	when raptor is out of town, if you're around and I'm not and a student stops by, would you help get them under control?
22:30:01	koda	i'll try my best
22:30:31	koda	i can easily become "formal" mentor of one task as we're under the same org
22:30:31	Watusimoto_	I don't necessarily mean like here;s how you solve this problem, more like you want to talk to watusimoto, and he should be around later kind of thing
22:30:52	Watusimoto_	that's up to you
22:34:35	Watusimoto_	so I get no crash on that level
22:35:13	Watusimoto_	anyway koda, thanks!
22:35:16	raptor	maybe we're missing a safeptr..
22:35:18	koda	i can do that, don't worry :)
22:35:35	raptor	more hedgewars spam...
22:35:53	raptor	oh, we need to rethink our start-up UI so koda can continue hacking on iOS
22:35:56	raptor	:)
22:36:05	koda	there is a task for that!
22:36:11	koda	or not? boooo
22:36:50	Watusimoto_	I think my proposal is still viable
22:37:01	Watusimoto_	start straight to main menu
22:37:12	Watusimoto_	have a "Hello DorkyHead" line
22:37:21	raptor	haha
22:37:21	Watusimoto_	and a way to change it
22:37:32	Watusimoto_	maybe under options?
22:37:57	Watusimoto_	and then rewrite things to handle changing nick while connected to master
22:38:50	Watusimoto_	so do you know what platform little apple was using?
22:38:56	raptor	would we want everything on the nameentry screen somewhere? like username, password, save?
22:39:04	raptor	Little_apple was on Mac
22:39:12	raptor	probably - like 95% change
22:39:31	Watusimoto_	maybe it's platform specific
22:39:43	raptor	real POSIX only - we crash
22:41:17	raptor	Watusimoto_: would you oppose me to making Vector<AbstractTeam *> mTeams
22:41:31	raptor	a Vector<SafePtr<AbstractTeam> > ?
22:41:38	Watusimoto_	well, there's no pointers in LineEditor so no idea
22:41:49	Watusimoto_	why would I oppose that? you probably have a good reason to do it
22:42:22	raptor	i think it's a race condition with deleting subclasses of AbstractTeam after AbstractTeam is deleted
22:42:31	raptor	which means missing virtual destructor?
22:42:33	raptor	somwhere?
22:43:16	Watusimoto_	LineEditor has virtual destructor, though that;s not likely the problem
22:43:32	Watusimoto_	LineEditor::~LineEditor()
22:43:33	Watusimoto_	{
22:43:33	Watusimoto_	;
22:43:33	Watusimoto_	}
22:43:34	Watusimoto_	????
22:43:38	raptor	haha
22:44:46	raptor	EditorTeam constructor has:
22:44:48	raptor	mNameEditor = LineEditor(MAX_TEAM_NAME_LENGTH);
22:45:01	raptor	does that need to be a 'new' ?
22:45:25	raptor	seems odd to do that in c++..
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22:46:57	Fordcars	hi
22:47:03	raptor	hi
22:48:02	raptor	we shoudl do a GCI task: Convert all raw pointers to SafePtr
22:48:28	Fordcars	do it mate
22:48:37	Fordcars	and get a t-shirt :D
22:49:01	Watusimoto_	that constructor would be better written
22:49:02	Watusimoto_	EditorTeam::EditorTeam() : mNameEditor(LineEditor(MAX_TEAM_NAME_LENGTH))
22:49:02	Watusimoto_	{
22:49:02	Watusimoto_	// Do nothing
22:49:02	Watusimoto_	}
22:49:17	Watusimoto_	do you want to do this, or should I?
22:49:28	Watusimoto_	(if you're working on the file, you should do it)
22:49:32	raptor	you can...
22:49:37	Watusimoto_	ok
22:49:38	raptor	i'm not, yet
22:49:42	Watusimoto_	that's not the problem, though
22:50:30	Watusimoto_	but it wills save a (very) few cpu cycles
22:50:44	raptor	I think EditorTeam is being deleted before LineEditor or other some such nonsense
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22:51:09	Watusimoto_	why do you think that?
22:51:16	raptor	just a hunch
22:52:05	Watusimoto_	search for <space><tilda> (" ~")
22:52:22	Watusimoto_	that will find all the destructor sigs, and you can see if there are any relevant ones that aren't virtual
22:52:35	raptor	ok
22:53:15	Watusimoto_	if you still think that's the problem
22:53:51	Watusimoto_	wait a minute
22:53:56	Watusimoto_	this from the stack trace
22:53:57	Watusimoto_	#5 0x00000000006035ae in Zap::LineEditor::~LineEditor (this=0x10e8e28, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at lineEditor.cpp:47
22:53:57	Watusimoto_	#6 0x00000000006a24da in Zap::EditorTeam::~EditorTeam (this=0x10e8e10, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at teamInfo.cpp:247
22:53:57	Watusimoto_	#7 0x00000000006a253a in Zap::EditorTeam::~EditorTeam (this=0x10e8e10, __in_chrg=<optimized out>) at teamInfo.cpp:250
22:53:57	Watusimoto_	#8 0x00000000006a36c7 in TNL::Vector<Zap::AbstractTeam*>::deleteAndClear (this=0x10e3ba0) at ../tnl/tnlVector.h:269
22:54:09	Watusimoto_	why is ~EditorTeam being called twice?
22:54:33	raptor	huh
22:55:09	raptor	are there two pointers to it in the TeamManager?
22:56:21	Watusimoto_	line 247 is beginningof desctructor, 250 is end of it
22:56:39	Watusimoto_	recompile that file?
22:56:45	raptor	i did
22:56:47	raptor	same trace
22:56:57	raptor	full recompiled
22:58:45	raptor	bitfighter: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x00007ffff6731481 ***
22:58:51	raptor	* glibc detected *
23:04:23	raptor	is time to ask forgiveness of that one guy who wrote all of our music?
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23:17:07	amgine1234567890	hi =)
23:17:12	amgine1234567890	anything going on?
23:17:47	amgine1234567890	btw i noticed the seeker eplosin sound is the same as the burst sound maybe you ocvuld make the seeker explosin sound lower
23:19:14	amgine1234567890	and on another realted not i had a idea that if you pressed a key( i was thinking tab) you would toggle between global and team voice chat cause right now voice chat is only team=p and it seems rather under utulized it would be great when bitfighter gets more people.
23:20:29	amgine1234567890	and to furhter continue my ideas of what could be added to bitfighter by version 20 is the new game modes virus (its in the forums) night (also in the forums) and maybe bungee option (also in forums). would be cool
23:21:01	amgine1234567890	im excitecd to see how far bitfighter goes
23:22:33	amgine1234567890	and hopefully eventully (by version 30 lol) that bitfighter will be put online and no longer require a download (though i htink that would be good to keep teh downloaded versions so people can use it if for some reason th esite is blocked.)
23:22:52	amgine1234567890	ok im done lol sorry for that massive flood of ideas
23:27:49	amgine1234567890	btw on the chat idea chat would be made auto no need to hold a key down
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