#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2013-05-29

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

00:12:32 raptor kaen still up?
00:14:04 raptor where in the HOST GAME menu order should the bots go?  second?  last?
00:14:10 raptor middle-ish
00:39:03 raptor ok, good night!
00:39:22 BFLogBot Commit: 9ac8b8f80ca9 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Add robot menu to the 'HOST GAME' menu.  This lets you set various robot options like auto-balancing 
00:41:43 BFBuildBot build containing revision(s) [9ac8b8f] on bitfighter-w32-cross is complete: Failure [failed shell_1]  Build details are at http://198.23.227.119:8010/builders/bitfighter-w32-cross/builds/24  blamelist: buckyballreaction@gmail.com
00:42:00 raptor haha, i'm to blame!
00:42:55 raptor I'm not to blame!
00:43:00 raptor "i586-mingw32msvc-g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)"
00:43:48 raptor good BFBuildBot
00:43:59 raptor forcing rebuild..
00:44:38 BFBuildBot build containing revision(s) [9ac8b8f] on bitfighter-w32-cross is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://198.23.227.119:8010/builders/bitfighter-w32-cross/builds/25
00:45:28 raptor final thoughts for the night: kaen, if possible is there a way to not have all three slaves do a 'make -j2' simultaneously?
00:45:32 raptor and...  night!
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03:06:32 kodab waves
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08:52:58 bobdaduck goodmrawrnin' gentleraptor'
08:53:13 raptor ROOAAARRRR
08:57:22 bobdaduck lol
09:02:58 bobdaduck okay so
09:03:07 bobdaduck where's that circle diagram again?
09:03:48 bobdaduck For the loadoutZone code I'm gonna try to make it competely dependent on angle
09:04:23 bobdaduck and how do I get that tangent line?
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09:49:57 amgine1234567890 *lurk*
09:51:40 bobdaduck We're all lurking here.
10:07:36 amgine1234567890 ^_^
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10:40:24 kaen morning
10:41:49 raptor morning!
10:45:31 amgine1234567890 morning!
10:46:33 kaen robots menu looks good, raptor
10:46:39 raptor yay
10:46:47 raptor I hope it makes sense..
10:46:52 raptor i think it'll be helpful
10:46:57 kaen I agree
10:50:57 amgine1234567890 did you figure out the db problem yet?
10:51:49 kaen uhhhh
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10:52:08 kaen pheow
10:52:26 kaen almost had to explain my laziness ^^;
10:52:41 raptor haha
10:55:20 bobdaduck xD
10:57:45 kaen uhoh
10:57:51 kaen it really does crash when uploading :<
10:58:01 kaen now I have to figure out how to get a backtrace...
11:05:10 kaen wonder if I can debug the nightlies from vc++
11:05:44 raptor compiled with -g?
11:06:07 kaen I... think so
11:06:17 kaen now I'm doubting myself
11:07:43 raptor with xcompile, you probably have to specify CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
11:08:00 kaen reasonably sure that I do
11:08:08 kaen I remember specifically thinking about that
11:08:27 kaen yep, confirmed
11:08:31 raptor oh good
11:08:50 kaen looks like vc++ was *trying* to debug the exe
11:08:57 kaen but my VM is giving out of memory errors...
11:21:15 raptor my XP VM has 1GB ram and 1GB swap
11:21:21 raptor I think that is too low for windows 7
11:23:43 bobdaduck Guys I'm making myself a custom sword for DnD
11:23:46 bobdaduck that's okay, right?
11:28:54 raptor sure it is
11:28:58 raptor footloose has one..
11:29:03 raptor and you hold the code
11:29:13 bobdaduck I JUST FEEL SELFISH OKAY?
11:48:06 raptor just keep your weapon fair-ish
11:48:46 bobdaduck lol
11:48:54 bobdaduck You weren't there for the old longsword
11:49:03 bobdaduck ...that had an extra zero on the length.
11:55:02 kaen I feel like whip is so OP
11:55:28 kaen I was playing with it in my little sandbox and you can totally make it spin around you 360 degrees
11:56:03 bobdaduck its actually really hard to use
11:56:12 bobdaduck If you can use it well then yeah its good
11:56:20 kaen if made the distance from the ship a bit longer it would be easier to use
11:56:28 kaen I think I set it at a ship's width
11:56:32 bobdaduck nah because then it would be OP
11:57:08 kaen wouldn't want to upset the delicate weapon balance
11:57:16 bobdaduck xD
11:57:45 bobdaduck I put so much effort into it.  "lets at least have them all sort of the same size.  And if they aren't a good weapon at least make sure they're cool."
12:03:49 bobdaduck So uh
12:03:54 bobdaduck on certain errors
12:04:14 bobdaduck they show in game after the error happens, but when you go back into the editor it actually clears them from the console
12:05:02 kaen interesting
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12:24:05 Watusimoto hello
12:24:22 kaen hello!
12:24:39 raptor welcome back
12:24:40 Watusimoto welcome back!
12:24:49 Watusimoto :-)
12:24:50 kaen wait, what?
12:24:52 kaen lol
12:25:05 Watusimoto just keeping you on your toes!
12:26:52 Watusimoto any news?  or are things just chugging along as usual
12:26:54 Watusimoto ?
12:27:00 kaen pretty much
12:27:06 kaen build bot supports OSX now
12:27:07 Watusimoto chug chug
12:27:12 Watusimoto great!
12:27:19 kaen and raptor made a bot setup menu
12:27:22 raptor yeah - that was the bulk of the weekend I think...
12:27:36 raptor cmake works on OSX now, too, although it doesn't build the bundle yet
12:27:49 kaen couldn't get the bundling working either, btw
12:27:55 raptor yeah, it's messy
12:27:58 kaen not on my first attack anyway
12:28:05 kaen it looks so simple in the cmake guide...
12:28:08 Watusimoto wait, can we build on on osx without ... that... mac osx build thing... (blanking on the name)
12:28:16 kaen xcode
12:28:17 kaen yes
12:28:20 raptor yes
12:28:21 Watusimoto good
12:28:22 kaen well
12:28:24 raptor well
12:28:29 Watusimoto good ish
12:28:32 raptor it compiles
12:28:39 kaen you need it in order to install make and gcc afaik
12:28:43 raptor but doesn't run yet...  at least until we can figure out the bundling
12:29:24 raptor oh kaen, did you see my parting late night question about the build bot?
12:29:28 kaen yes
12:29:29 Watusimoto but still... progress
12:29:52 kaen I'm not how to make them bulid in serial
12:29:56 raptor am i right in thinking that 3 2-threaded builds are b eing kicked off simultaneously?
12:30:22 kaen yes
12:30:55 kaen probably just need to dig through the docs
12:31:16 raptor The BuildSlave constructor can also take an optional max_builds parameter to limit the number of builds that it will execute simultaneously:
12:31:25 raptor (from the docs)
12:31:28 kaen too fast for me :)
12:31:35 raptor http://docs.buildbot.net/0.8.1/Buildslaves.html
12:31:38 raptor at the bottom
12:31:43 raptor maybe that's old, though..
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12:32:26 kaen seems to have worked...
12:32:28 kaen let's test
12:33:13 raptor Watusimoto: I know you were wary of a bot menu under HOST GAME...  but I think it's beneficial - and I'm open to criticism
12:33:42 Watusimoto ok, great
12:34:20 Watusimoto I think we really need something, and seeing your implementation will give us something concrete to respond to
12:34:38 raptor yes, my thoughts exactly
12:34:46 raptor start something and see..
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13:06:16 Watusimoto I picked up this book some years ago, not sure where, perhaps at the Harvard bookstore
13:06:30 Watusimoto I have always been somewhat haunted by the image on the front cover
13:07:11 Watusimoto interestingly, on Monday, I came across this exact skeleton in a museum in Utrecht, still posed in the same whimsical pose
13:08:12 Watusimoto amongst other diseased skeletons in a sort of ghoulish scene
13:08:17 Watusimoto http://www.amazon.com/Special-Cases-Rosamond-Wolff-Purcell/dp/0811815684
13:08:48 Watusimoto it's hard to see from the photo, but the skeleton is doing a sort of bow
13:09:52 Watusimoto another was shrugging, yet another was bent over as if peering into the skull shown here
13:31:41 Watusimoto raptor: ok, I can buy the robots menu concept.  We need to find a better way to explain what each option does, as it seems a bit confusing.  it may be that we need to expand the information available in the help message for these options (longer text capactiy?  text that changes as the selection changes?)
13:32:08 Watusimoto also, I think it should be higher up in the list of options -- perhaps second after start hosting> ?
13:32:15 Watusimoto just my first reactions
13:32:24 Watusimoto but I think it is definitley on the right track
13:38:35 bobdaduck kaen you around?
13:39:37 bobdaduck for the whip, you use this line to make it start in front of the ship: local base = ship:getLoc() + (50 * point.new(math.cos(ang), math.sin(ang)))
13:39:51 bobdaduck how would I get it to start to the side of the ship?
13:48:25 kaen add or subtract PI/2 to `ang`
13:48:32 kaen ish
13:48:43 kaen maybe 3*PI/4
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13:52:01 raptor what the heck is wrong with that skeleton
13:52:07 bobdaduck lol
13:52:31 raptor Watusimoto: for the robots menu
13:52:53 raptor I know that more clarity is needed
13:53:21 raptor I'm open to changing the stuff - i tried to add good descriptions, but rarely do I find my good descriptions work for normal people..
13:54:41 raptor putting the robot menu right after hosting seemed a little weird to me..  but maybe I just need to get used to it
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14:21:38 Watusimoto that skeleton is from a baby with hydroencephelitis (spelled wrong, no doubt), a disease caused by water in the skull
14:22:05 Watusimoto obviously a fatal syndrom
14:22:06 Watusimoto e
14:31:30 bobdaduck so subtracting Pi/2 to ang
14:31:37 bobdaduck is having weird behaviors.
14:32:04 bobdaduck like the whip only moving along a diagnal.
14:32:42 bobdaduck nowait
14:32:43 bobdaduck got it
14:35:23 bobdaduck I'm seeing this pattern where I wait to declare myself "stuck" until I'm only like a step away from solving a problem.
14:35:52 raptor sometimes a problem requires explaining it to someone before the answer comes clearly
14:36:35 bobdaduck I think its more like I'm a terrible judge of how close I am to solving a problem
14:37:01 bobdaduck That or fate conspires against me to make me look silly.
14:37:05 bobdaduck One of the two.
14:50:17 bobdaduck kaen is there any way to seperate the links in the whip slightly?
14:50:30 bobdaduck with the diamond shape we have now they overlap a bit
14:50:50 bobdaduck which isn't a big deal but I'm wondering.
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15:14:32 Tttt7858 hey
15:14:57 kaen hello
15:16:27 Tttt7858 how ya doing
15:16:49 bobdaduck sup
15:16:52 Tttt7858 I'm going golfing later, if it's not raining :D
15:16:57 bobdaduck cool
15:17:18 Tttt7858 I'm not that good at golf, but its fun.
15:19:48 Tttt7858 boba, do you have any old dnd maps
15:20:23 bobdaduck uhhhhh
15:20:35 bobdaduck "old DnD maps"?
15:20:39 bobdaduck DnD is pretty unique
15:21:20 bobdaduck I have a lot of silly scripted maps, but so far DnD is the only one of its kind.  The next closest would just be the swords demo which isn't nearly as cool.
15:22:12 Tttt7858 oh
15:22:27 Tttt7858 do you have any other cool maps?
15:22:32 bobdaduck lots
15:22:33 bobdaduck xD
15:22:54 bobdaduck I'll have to show you sometime, but probably not today
15:22:57 Tttt7858 lol
15:23:03 bobdaduck I've got lots of plans with friends and stuff after I get off work
15:23:29 Tttt7858 k
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15:27:10 bobdaduck FORDY
15:27:21 fordcars wassup
15:27:24 bobdaduck is the bot done?
15:27:37 fordcars yeh maybe I should work on it again,
15:27:39 bobdaduck If not I came up with this brilliant idea
15:27:45 fordcars what
15:27:46 bobdaduck to get it done faster
15:27:52 bobdaduck You just get lots of workers
15:28:00 bobdaduck and you teach them just a small portion of the code
15:28:14 bobdaduck and you have them send it to the next worker who writes the next section of the code
15:28:17 fordcars I will probably finish it tonight if you want!!!!
15:28:28 fordcars whoa mass production, but nah
15:28:30 bobdaduck So each of the workers just has to do their part
15:28:36 bobdaduck We'll call it the "assembly line"
15:28:39 bobdaduck it'll make us millions
15:28:40 fordcars :P
15:28:45 fordcars totally
15:30:23 bobdaduck We can use it to sell the bots for cheaper
15:30:36 bobdaduck and we'll outrace any and all competition
15:32:24 bobdaduck Actually my main thought is "do you know what you want for a custom weapon yet?"
15:32:48 Tttt7858 me?
15:33:00 Tttt7858 oh whoops
15:33:08 Tttt7858 sorry i didn't read above lol
15:33:20 bobdaduck fordcar
15:33:25 Tttt7858 ford u shud have a car lol
15:33:32 fordcars lolololol
15:33:37 fordcars hmmmm
15:33:53 raptor I want claws
15:33:58 raptor to go with my namesake
15:34:01 Tttt7858 i want a lightsubr
15:34:06 fordcars hahaha
15:34:06 bobdaduck lol
15:34:11 Tttt7858 i want the force
15:34:15 fordcars bob wants duck
15:34:16 Tttt7858 i want my yoda1111
15:34:18 bobdaduck but raptor didn't do the whip for me...
15:34:24 bobdaduck Actually I just finished giving myself nunchucks
15:34:40 Tttt7858 ogm can i get a katana
15:34:42 fordcars did you use kaens physics website thing?
15:34:56 bobdaduck No I just used the existing code...
15:35:07 fordcars of
15:35:12 bobdaduck NOBODY GETS CUSTOM WEAPS NOONE DID ANYTHING FOR ME YET.
15:35:17 Tttt7858 ogm
15:35:35 bobdaduck kaen made the whip I wanted so bad and fordcars is making me a DnD bot
15:35:42 Tttt7858 ogm
15:35:49 fordcars ahhhh the whip is awesome
15:35:59 Tttt7858 it can be leik ok wat race r u gon go with skyrim name an raic
15:36:17 bobdaduck wut
15:36:18 bobdaduck xD
15:36:21 Tttt7858 if only there was bitfighter skyrim
15:36:23 Tttt7858 id be like
15:36:36 Tttt7858 DAAAAAAAANG IM A STORMCLOAK WOOSOOSSOSSHSHSHS
15:36:50 Tttt7858 Even though, I don't like the game.
15:36:55 bobdaduck If I had the slightest idea what that is
15:36:57 bobdaduck I could probably make it
15:37:04 Tttt7858 Skyrim?
15:37:19 fordcars I know skyrim never played it though
15:37:28 bobdaduck no a stormcloak
15:37:50 BFLogBot Commit: cc58b508f0ef | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Move some items around, show joystick buttons of currently selected profile in input options menu (debug builds only) to help me get the rest of the button renering working again 
15:37:51 BFLogBot Commit: ad877d6e8bcf | Author: watusimoto  | Message: Merge 
15:37:59 Tttt7858 um
15:38:17 bobdaduck lol
15:38:20 Watusimoto not fully baked, but harmless
15:38:50 bobdaduck harmless is good
15:38:55 bobdaduck You should teach me how to do that
15:39:17 raptor you still ahd to merge?
15:39:28 bobdaduck everything I've ever half-baked has been super dangerous
15:39:52 Tttt7858 LOL
15:40:26 Tttt7858 once i was makin myself breakfest, and i had cereal, and put buttermilk in by accident
15:40:31 Tttt7858 qq
15:42:11 fordcars yes FINALLy managed to change module
15:43:29 bobdaduck lol
15:43:30 bobdaduck graz
15:46:17 fordcars bob, bot only go to neutral loadouts right?
15:46:43 fordcars changing module stinks for 018
15:47:11 bobdaduck yeah
15:47:13 bobdaduck well
15:47:25 bobdaduck yeah if that makes it simpler for you
15:48:24 fordcars nah it doesn't change a thing
15:49:01 bobdaduck it is possible to go to the shop and buy deployable loadoutzones
15:49:05 bobdaduck which will be only on your team.
15:49:52 fordcars ok
15:50:41 fordcars oh and the most important question...
15:50:50 fordcars what is
15:50:55 fordcars the
15:51:02 fordcars b
15:51:05 fordcars o
15:51:07 fordcars t
15:51:10 fordcars '
15:51:12 fordcars s
15:51:23 fordcars ...............name
15:51:25 fordcars ?è
15:51:28 Tttt7858 bots
15:51:33 bobdaduck lol
15:51:41 Tttt7858 um?
15:51:50 fordcars bot's cus it's the bot's name, not plurial bots
15:51:58 bobdaduck I'm currently calling it swordBot or DnDBot
15:51:59 bobdaduck BUT
15:52:08 fordcars epic Dnd dude?
15:52:18 bobdaduck What if we named them like, randomly pulled from a list
15:52:29 fordcars wow nice!
15:52:32 fordcars sure
15:52:40 bobdaduck Want me to put a list together then?
15:52:45 fordcars ok
15:52:49 fordcars :P
15:53:33 Tttt7858 no i mean why did ya um say letter by letter
15:53:35 bobdaduck We should concatinate [BOT] onto the beginning of it though
15:53:54 bobdaduck he was just being ecclectic TTTTT.
15:54:01 Tttt7858 John's pizza was crappy, but i needed to be nice so I could continue to be john's friend.
15:54:14 Tttt7858 example of that part of grammar
15:54:20 fordcars oh I have no idea ;)
15:54:23 bobdaduck [BOT]Dergald the Destroyer
15:54:46 fordcars sure
15:54:46 Tttt7858 {BOT} ANNOYINGARSEBOTWHOWILLBEATYERARSEATANYTHING
15:55:35 bobdaduck [BOT]Shazbot
15:55:45 bobdaduck [BOT]raptorBane
15:55:58 fordcars is that the list?
15:56:02 bobdaduck no
15:56:07 fordcars :PPPPPP kkk
15:56:09 bobdaduck I'll get you an actual list tomorrow
15:56:17 bobdaduck You can program in the random logic in advance though
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15:56:38 bobdaduck local nameRoll = math.random(20) and then have it pull from a list of names that way
15:56:48 raptor too much!
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15:57:22 bobdaduck xD
15:57:47 bobdaduck aight
15:57:51 bobdaduck works off, I'm heading out
15:57:53 fordcars yeah ok
15:57:53 bobdaduck seeya boys
15:57:58 fordcars later
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15:58:21 fordcars what is neutral loadout index in lua
15:58:26 fordcars -1?
15:59:16 fordcars man I won't be here friday
16:00:00 fordcars anyway me to got to go later guys
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16:04:31 Tttt7858 lol
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18:25:23 Nothing_Much kaen, how many devs are there for bitfighter right now?
18:26:08 kaen there's me, wat, raptor, and sam on occasion
18:26:35 kaen so 3.5-4.0
18:26:43 Nothing_Much aw man
18:26:57 kaen what?
18:27:03 Nothing_Much if I had the time and dedication to coding, I'd contribute to this and desurium
18:27:11 Nothing_Much sadly I'm just a tester
18:27:12 Nothing_Much :(
18:27:21 kaen testing is cool too
18:27:30 Nothing_Much oh that reminds me
18:27:34 Nothing_Much how do you get code from google?
18:27:58 kaen you mean from our google code repo?
18:28:02 kaen you use mercurial
18:28:03 Nothing_Much yeah
18:28:21 kaen and run `hg clone https://code.google.com/p/bitighter`
18:28:44 kaen but if you're not coding you should be able to use the testing builds I set up
18:28:51 Nothing_Much oh
18:28:56 Nothing_Much where would those be?
18:29:04 kaen uh, well they're really beta right now...
18:29:22 Nothing_Much ubuntu can handle beta
18:29:27 kaen http://198.23.227.119:8010/dist/
18:29:43 Nothing_Much is that your personal server?
18:29:46 kaen the x86-64 package closest to the bottom is the latest
18:29:47 kaen yeah
18:30:08 kaen same one kaen test is on :P
18:30:23 Nothing_Much nice
18:35:09 Nothing_Much what was that one map where you had to capture points?
18:36:23 Nothing_Much oh
18:38:28 Nothing_Much which distros do you use to test, kaen?
18:40:35 kaen I run debian wheezy
18:40:39 kaen I think raptor is on suse
18:41:09 kaen that's all the testing it gets as far as I know :P
18:41:25 Nothing_Much Cool
18:41:33 Nothing_Much Did you know wheezy is stable now?
18:41:40 kaen yep :)
18:41:58 Nothing_Much nice
18:43:11 Nothing_Much Holy hell, there's bitfighter in the AUR (arch linux)!
18:44:48 kaen I think raptor might have packaged that
18:45:01 kaen I used arch once upon a time
18:45:14 kaen nope
18:45:17 kaen not raptor...
18:45:25 kaen never heard of this carstene1ns character...
18:45:34 Nothing_Much It's pretty intense as far as Linux distros go
18:45:47 Nothing_Much Gentoo I've heard is much more intense
18:46:16 kaen yeah
18:46:16 Nothing_Much Oh and I believe carstenelns was on IRC here once
18:46:25 kaen at least arch has binary packages
18:46:38 kaen I'm not certain but I think gentoo makes you build everything
18:46:57 Nothing_Much I think Gentoo has them too, in the form of portage or something
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19:36:11 fordcars hey kaen what is neutral team's index in lua again?
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20:00:20 raptor kaen: do you have the buildbot doing x86 and x86_64?
20:00:22 raptor for linux
20:00:40 kaen just 64 for now
20:00:47 kaen I could set up 32bit pretty quick
20:02:55 raptor probably not needed, i was just curious..
20:32:01 Nothing_Much raptor, are you familiar with the arch linux build of bf?
20:32:34 raptor I little bit
20:32:53 raptor watusimoto and I registered on the arch system and contacted the guy to trigger a new build
20:33:06 Nothing_Much well it's in the AUR so it's somewhat a package :)
20:34:03 raptor oh actually...  the OBS can build for arch now
20:34:43 raptor oh hey, they updated to 018a finally..
20:36:33 raptor brb
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21:01:51 fordcars later guys, gtg
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00:12:32	raptor	kaen still up?
00:14:04	raptor	where in the HOST GAME menu order should the bots go? second? last?
00:14:10	raptor	middle-ish
00:39:03	raptor	ok, good night!
00:39:22		BFLogBot Commit: 9ac8b8f80ca9 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Message: Add robot menu to the 'HOST GAME' menu. This lets you set various robot options like auto-balancing
00:41:43	BFBuildBot	build containing revision(s) [9ac8b8f] on bitfighter-w32-cross is complete: Failure [failed shell_1] Build details are at http://198.23.227.119:8010/builders/bitfighter-w32-cross/builds/24 blamelist: buckyballreaction@gmail.com
00:42:00	raptor	haha, i'm to blame!
00:42:55	raptor	I'm not to blame!
00:43:00	raptor	"i586-mingw32msvc-g++: Internal error: Killed (program cc1plus)"
00:43:48	raptor	good BFBuildBot
00:43:59	raptor	forcing rebuild..
00:44:38	BFBuildBot	build containing revision(s) [9ac8b8f] on bitfighter-w32-cross is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://198.23.227.119:8010/builders/bitfighter-w32-cross/builds/25
00:45:28	raptor	final thoughts for the night: kaen, if possible is there a way to not have all three slaves do a 'make -j2' simultaneously?
00:45:32	raptor	and... night!
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08:52:58	bobdaduck	goodmrawrnin' gentleraptor'
08:53:13	raptor	ROOAAARRRR
08:57:22	bobdaduck	lol
09:02:58	bobdaduck	okay so
09:03:07	bobdaduck	where's that circle diagram again?
09:03:48	bobdaduck	For the loadoutZone code I'm gonna try to make it competely dependent on angle
09:04:23	bobdaduck	and how do I get that tangent line?
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09:49:57	amgine1234567890	lurk
09:51:40	bobdaduck	We're all lurking here.
10:07:36	amgine1234567890	^_^
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10:40:24	kaen	morning
10:41:49	raptor	morning!
10:45:31	amgine1234567890	morning!
10:46:33	kaen	robots menu looks good, raptor
10:46:39	raptor	yay
10:46:47	raptor	I hope it makes sense..
10:46:52	raptor	i think it'll be helpful
10:46:57	kaen	I agree
10:50:57	amgine1234567890	did you figure out the db problem yet?
10:51:49	kaen	uhhhh
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10:52:08	kaen	pheow
10:52:26	kaen	almost had to explain my laziness ^^;
10:52:41	raptor	haha
10:55:20	bobdaduck	xD
10:57:45	kaen	uhoh
10:57:51	kaen	it really does crash when uploading :<
10:58:01	kaen	now I have to figure out how to get a backtrace...
11:05:10	kaen	wonder if I can debug the nightlies from vc++
11:05:44	raptor	compiled with -g?
11:06:07	kaen	I... think so
11:06:17	kaen	now I'm doubting myself
11:07:43	raptor	with xcompile, you probably have to specify CMAKE_BUILD_TYPE=Debug
11:08:00	kaen	reasonably sure that I do
11:08:08	kaen	I remember specifically thinking about that
11:08:27	kaen	yep, confirmed
11:08:31	raptor	oh good
11:08:50	kaen	looks like vc++ was trying to debug the exe
11:08:57	kaen	but my VM is giving out of memory errors...
11:21:15	raptor	my XP VM has 1GB ram and 1GB swap
11:21:21	raptor	I think that is too low for windows 7
11:23:43	bobdaduck	Guys I'm making myself a custom sword for DnD
11:23:46	bobdaduck	that's okay, right?
11:28:54	raptor	sure it is
11:28:58	raptor	footloose has one..
11:29:03	raptor	and you hold the code
11:29:13	bobdaduck	I JUST FEEL SELFISH OKAY?
11:48:06	raptor	just keep your weapon fair-ish
11:48:46	bobdaduck	lol
11:48:54	bobdaduck	You weren't there for the old longsword
11:49:03	bobdaduck	...that had an extra zero on the length.
11:55:02	kaen	I feel like whip is so OP
11:55:28	kaen	I was playing with it in my little sandbox and you can totally make it spin around you 360 degrees
11:56:03	bobdaduck	its actually really hard to use
11:56:12	bobdaduck	If you can use it well then yeah its good
11:56:20	kaen	if made the distance from the ship a bit longer it would be easier to use
11:56:28	kaen	I think I set it at a ship's width
11:56:32	bobdaduck	nah because then it would be OP
11:57:08	kaen	wouldn't want to upset the delicate weapon balance
11:57:16	bobdaduck	xD
11:57:45	bobdaduck	I put so much effort into it. "lets at least have them all sort of the same size. And if they aren't a good weapon at least make sure they're cool."
12:03:49	bobdaduck	So uh
12:03:54	bobdaduck	on certain errors
12:04:14	bobdaduck	they show in game after the error happens, but when you go back into the editor it actually clears them from the console
12:05:02	kaen	interesting
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12:24:05	Watusimoto	hello
12:24:22	kaen	hello!
12:24:39	raptor	welcome back
12:24:40	Watusimoto	welcome back!
12:24:49	Watusimoto	:-)
12:24:50	kaen	wait, what?
12:24:52	kaen	lol
12:25:05	Watusimoto	just keeping you on your toes!
12:26:52	Watusimoto	any news? or are things just chugging along as usual
12:26:54	Watusimoto	?
12:27:00	kaen	pretty much
12:27:06	kaen	build bot supports OSX now
12:27:07	Watusimoto	chug chug
12:27:12	Watusimoto	great!
12:27:19	kaen	and raptor made a bot setup menu
12:27:22	raptor	yeah - that was the bulk of the weekend I think...
12:27:36	raptor	cmake works on OSX now, too, although it doesn't build the bundle yet
12:27:49	kaen	couldn't get the bundling working either, btw
12:27:55	raptor	yeah, it's messy
12:27:58	kaen	not on my first attack anyway
12:28:05	kaen	it looks so simple in the cmake guide...
12:28:08	Watusimoto	wait, can we build on on osx without ... that... mac osx build thing... (blanking on the name)
12:28:16	kaen	xcode
12:28:17	kaen	yes
12:28:20	raptor	yes
12:28:21	Watusimoto	good
12:28:22	kaen	well
12:28:24	raptor	well
12:28:29	Watusimoto	good ish
12:28:32	raptor	it compiles
12:28:39	kaen	you need it in order to install make and gcc afaik
12:28:43	raptor	but doesn't run yet... at least until we can figure out the bundling
12:29:24	raptor	oh kaen, did you see my parting late night question about the build bot?
12:29:28	kaen	yes
12:29:29	Watusimoto	but still... progress
12:29:52	kaen	I'm not how to make them bulid in serial
12:29:56	raptor	am i right in thinking that 3 2-threaded builds are b eing kicked off simultaneously?
12:30:22	kaen	yes
12:30:55	kaen	probably just need to dig through the docs
12:31:16	raptor	The BuildSlave constructor can also take an optional max_builds parameter to limit the number of builds that it will execute simultaneously:
12:31:25	raptor	(from the docs)
12:31:28	kaen	too fast for me :)
12:31:35	raptor	http://docs.buildbot.net/0.8.1/Buildslaves.html
12:31:38	raptor	at the bottom
12:31:43	raptor	maybe that's old, though..
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12:32:26	kaen	seems to have worked...
12:32:28	kaen	let's test
12:33:13	raptor	Watusimoto: I know you were wary of a bot menu under HOST GAME... but I think it's beneficial - and I'm open to criticism
12:33:42	Watusimoto	ok, great
12:34:20	Watusimoto	I think we really need something, and seeing your implementation will give us something concrete to respond to
12:34:38	raptor	yes, my thoughts exactly
12:34:46	raptor	start something and see..
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13:06:16	Watusimoto	I picked up this book some years ago, not sure where, perhaps at the Harvard bookstore
13:06:30	Watusimoto	I have always been somewhat haunted by the image on the front cover
13:07:11	Watusimoto	interestingly, on Monday, I came across this exact skeleton in a museum in Utrecht, still posed in the same whimsical pose
13:08:12	Watusimoto	amongst other diseased skeletons in a sort of ghoulish scene
13:08:17	Watusimoto	http://www.amazon.com/Special-Cases-Rosamond-Wolff-Purcell/dp/0811815684
13:08:48	Watusimoto	it's hard to see from the photo, but the skeleton is doing a sort of bow
13:09:52	Watusimoto	another was shrugging, yet another was bent over as if peering into the skull shown here
13:31:41	Watusimoto	raptor: ok, I can buy the robots menu concept. We need to find a better way to explain what each option does, as it seems a bit confusing. it may be that we need to expand the information available in the help message for these options (longer text capactiy? text that changes as the selection changes?)
13:32:08	Watusimoto	also, I think it should be higher up in the list of options -- perhaps second after start hosting> ?
13:32:15	Watusimoto	just my first reactions
13:32:24	Watusimoto	but I think it is definitley on the right track
13:38:35	bobdaduck	kaen you around?
13:39:37	bobdaduck	for the whip, you use this line to make it start in front of the ship: local base = ship:getLoc() + (50 * point.new(math.cos(ang), math.sin(ang)))
13:39:51	bobdaduck	how would I get it to start to the side of the ship?
13:48:25	kaen	add or subtract PI/2 to `ang`
13:48:32	kaen	ish
13:48:43	kaen	maybe 3*PI/4
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13:52:01	raptor	what the heck is wrong with that skeleton
13:52:07	bobdaduck	lol
13:52:31	raptor	Watusimoto: for the robots menu
13:52:53	raptor	I know that more clarity is needed
13:53:21	raptor	I'm open to changing the stuff - i tried to add good descriptions, but rarely do I find my good descriptions work for normal people..
13:54:41	raptor	putting the robot menu right after hosting seemed a little weird to me.. but maybe I just need to get used to it
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14:21:38	Watusimoto	that skeleton is from a baby with hydroencephelitis (spelled wrong, no doubt), a disease caused by water in the skull
14:22:05	Watusimoto	obviously a fatal syndrom
14:22:06	Watusimoto	e
14:31:30	bobdaduck	so subtracting Pi/2 to ang
14:31:37	bobdaduck	is having weird behaviors.
14:32:04	bobdaduck	like the whip only moving along a diagnal.
14:32:42	bobdaduck	nowait
14:32:43	bobdaduck	got it
14:35:23	bobdaduck	I'm seeing this pattern where I wait to declare myself "stuck" until I'm only like a step away from solving a problem.
14:35:52	raptor	sometimes a problem requires explaining it to someone before the answer comes clearly
14:36:35	bobdaduck	I think its more like I'm a terrible judge of how close I am to solving a problem
14:37:01	bobdaduck	That or fate conspires against me to make me look silly.
14:37:05	bobdaduck	One of the two.
14:50:17	bobdaduck	kaen is there any way to seperate the links in the whip slightly?
14:50:30	bobdaduck	with the diamond shape we have now they overlap a bit
14:50:50	bobdaduck	which isn't a big deal but I'm wondering.
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15:14:32	Tttt7858	hey
15:14:57	kaen	hello
15:16:27	Tttt7858	how ya doing
15:16:49	bobdaduck	sup
15:16:52	Tttt7858	I'm going golfing later, if it's not raining :D
15:16:57	bobdaduck	cool
15:17:18	Tttt7858	I'm not that good at golf, but its fun.
15:19:48	Tttt7858	boba, do you have any old dnd maps
15:20:23	bobdaduck	uhhhhh
15:20:35	bobdaduck	"old DnD maps"?
15:20:39	bobdaduck	DnD is pretty unique
15:21:20	bobdaduck	I have a lot of silly scripted maps, but so far DnD is the only one of its kind. The next closest would just be the swords demo which isn't nearly as cool.
15:22:12	Tttt7858	oh
15:22:27	Tttt7858	do you have any other cool maps?
15:22:32	bobdaduck	lots
15:22:33	bobdaduck	xD
15:22:54	bobdaduck	I'll have to show you sometime, but probably not today
15:22:57	Tttt7858	lol
15:23:03	bobdaduck	I've got lots of plans with friends and stuff after I get off work
15:23:29	Tttt7858	k
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15:27:10	bobdaduck	FORDY
15:27:21	fordcars	wassup
15:27:24	bobdaduck	is the bot done?
15:27:37	fordcars	yeh maybe I should work on it again,
15:27:39	bobdaduck	If not I came up with this brilliant idea
15:27:45	fordcars	what
15:27:46	bobdaduck	to get it done faster
15:27:52	bobdaduck	You just get lots of workers
15:28:00	bobdaduck	and you teach them just a small portion of the code
15:28:14	bobdaduck	and you have them send it to the next worker who writes the next section of the code
15:28:17	fordcars	I will probably finish it tonight if you want!!!!
15:28:28	fordcars	whoa mass production, but nah
15:28:30	bobdaduck	So each of the workers just has to do their part
15:28:36	bobdaduck	We'll call it the "assembly line"
15:28:39	bobdaduck	it'll make us millions
15:28:40	fordcars	:P
15:28:45	fordcars	totally
15:30:23	bobdaduck	We can use it to sell the bots for cheaper
15:30:36	bobdaduck	and we'll outrace any and all competition
15:32:24	bobdaduck	Actually my main thought is "do you know what you want for a custom weapon yet?"
15:32:48	Tttt7858	me?
15:33:00	Tttt7858	oh whoops
15:33:08	Tttt7858	sorry i didn't read above lol
15:33:20	bobdaduck	fordcar
15:33:25	Tttt7858	ford u shud have a car lol
15:33:32	fordcars	lolololol
15:33:37	fordcars	hmmmm
15:33:53	raptor	I want claws
15:33:58	raptor	to go with my namesake
15:34:01	Tttt7858	i want a lightsubr
15:34:06	fordcars	hahaha
15:34:06	bobdaduck	lol
15:34:11	Tttt7858	i want the force
15:34:15	fordcars	bob wants duck
15:34:16	Tttt7858	i want my yoda1111
15:34:18	bobdaduck	but raptor didn't do the whip for me...
15:34:24	bobdaduck	Actually I just finished giving myself nunchucks
15:34:40	Tttt7858	ogm can i get a katana
15:34:42	fordcars	did you use kaens physics website thing?
15:34:56	bobdaduck	No I just used the existing code...
15:35:07	fordcars	of
15:35:12	bobdaduck	NOBODY GETS CUSTOM WEAPS NOONE DID ANYTHING FOR ME YET.
15:35:17	Tttt7858	ogm
15:35:35	bobdaduck	kaen made the whip I wanted so bad and fordcars is making me a DnD bot
15:35:42	Tttt7858	ogm
15:35:49	fordcars	ahhhh the whip is awesome
15:35:59	Tttt7858	it can be leik ok wat race r u gon go with skyrim name an raic
15:36:17	bobdaduck	wut
15:36:18	bobdaduck	xD
15:36:21	Tttt7858	if only there was bitfighter skyrim
15:36:23	Tttt7858	id be like
15:36:36	Tttt7858	DAAAAAAAANG IM A STORMCLOAK WOOSOOSSOSSHSHSHS
15:36:50	Tttt7858	Even though, I don't like the game.
15:36:55	bobdaduck	If I had the slightest idea what that is
15:36:57	bobdaduck	I could probably make it
15:37:04	Tttt7858	Skyrim?
15:37:19	fordcars	I know skyrim never played it though
15:37:28	bobdaduck	no a stormcloak
15:37:50		BFLogBot Commit: cc58b508f0ef \| Author: watusimoto \| Message: Move some items around, show joystick buttons of currently selected profile in input options menu (debug builds only) to help me get the rest of the button renering working again
15:37:51		BFLogBot Commit: ad877d6e8bcf \| Author: watusimoto \| Message: Merge
15:37:59	Tttt7858	um
15:38:17	bobdaduck	lol
15:38:20	Watusimoto	not fully baked, but harmless
15:38:50	bobdaduck	harmless is good
15:38:55	bobdaduck	You should teach me how to do that
15:39:17	raptor	you still ahd to merge?
15:39:28	bobdaduck	everything I've ever half-baked has been super dangerous
15:39:52	Tttt7858	LOL
15:40:26	Tttt7858	once i was makin myself breakfest, and i had cereal, and put buttermilk in by accident
15:40:31	Tttt7858	qq
15:42:11	fordcars	yes FINALLy managed to change module
15:43:29	bobdaduck	lol
15:43:30	bobdaduck	graz
15:46:17	fordcars	bob, bot only go to neutral loadouts right?
15:46:43	fordcars	changing module stinks for 018
15:47:11	bobdaduck	yeah
15:47:13	bobdaduck	well
15:47:25	bobdaduck	yeah if that makes it simpler for you
15:48:24	fordcars	nah it doesn't change a thing
15:49:01	bobdaduck	it is possible to go to the shop and buy deployable loadoutzones
15:49:05	bobdaduck	which will be only on your team.
15:49:52	fordcars	ok
15:50:41	fordcars	oh and the most important question...
15:50:50	fordcars	what is
15:50:55	fordcars	the
15:51:02	fordcars	b
15:51:05	fordcars	o
15:51:07	fordcars	t
15:51:10	fordcars	'
15:51:12	fordcars	s
15:51:23	fordcars	...............name
15:51:25	fordcars	?è
15:51:28	Tttt7858	bots
15:51:33	bobdaduck	lol
15:51:41	Tttt7858	um?
15:51:50	fordcars	bot's cus it's the bot's name, not plurial bots
15:51:58	bobdaduck	I'm currently calling it swordBot or DnDBot
15:51:59	bobdaduck	BUT
15:52:08	fordcars	epic Dnd dude?
15:52:18	bobdaduck	What if we named them like, randomly pulled from a list
15:52:29	fordcars	wow nice!
15:52:32	fordcars	sure
15:52:40	bobdaduck	Want me to put a list together then?
15:52:45	fordcars	ok
15:52:49	fordcars	:P
15:53:33	Tttt7858	no i mean why did ya um say letter by letter
15:53:35	bobdaduck	We should concatinate [BOT] onto the beginning of it though
15:53:54	bobdaduck	he was just being ecclectic TTTTT.
15:54:01	Tttt7858	John's pizza was crappy, but i needed to be nice so I could continue to be john's friend.
15:54:14	Tttt7858	example of that part of grammar
15:54:20	fordcars	oh I have no idea ;)
15:54:23	bobdaduck	[BOT]Dergald the Destroyer
15:54:46	fordcars	sure
15:54:46	Tttt7858	{BOT} ANNOYINGARSEBOTWHOWILLBEATYERARSEATANYTHING
15:55:35	bobdaduck	[BOT]Shazbot
15:55:45	bobdaduck	[BOT]raptorBane
15:55:58	fordcars	is that the list?
15:56:02	bobdaduck	no
15:56:07	fordcars	:PPPPPP kkk
15:56:09	bobdaduck	I'll get you an actual list tomorrow
15:56:17	bobdaduck	You can program in the random logic in advance though
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15:56:38	bobdaduck	local nameRoll = math.random(20) and then have it pull from a list of names that way
15:56:48	raptor	too much!
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15:57:22	bobdaduck	xD
15:57:47	bobdaduck	aight
15:57:51	bobdaduck	works off, I'm heading out
15:57:53	fordcars	yeah ok
15:57:53	bobdaduck	seeya boys
15:57:58	fordcars	later
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15:58:21	fordcars	what is neutral loadout index in lua
15:58:26	fordcars	-1?
15:59:16	fordcars	man I won't be here friday
16:00:00	fordcars	anyway me to got to go later guys
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16:04:31	Tttt7858	lol
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18:25:23	Nothing_Much	kaen, how many devs are there for bitfighter right now?
18:26:08	kaen	there's me, wat, raptor, and sam on occasion
18:26:35	kaen	so 3.5-4.0
18:26:43	Nothing_Much	aw man
18:26:57	kaen	what?
18:27:03	Nothing_Much	if I had the time and dedication to coding, I'd contribute to this and desurium
18:27:11	Nothing_Much	sadly I'm just a tester
18:27:12	Nothing_Much	:(
18:27:21	kaen	testing is cool too
18:27:30	Nothing_Much	oh that reminds me
18:27:34	Nothing_Much	how do you get code from google?
18:27:58	kaen	you mean from our google code repo?
18:28:02	kaen	you use mercurial
18:28:03	Nothing_Much	yeah
18:28:21	kaen	and run `hg clone https://code.google.com/p/bitighter`
18:28:44	kaen	but if you're not coding you should be able to use the testing builds I set up
18:28:51	Nothing_Much	oh
18:28:56	Nothing_Much	where would those be?
18:29:04	kaen	uh, well they're really beta right now...
18:29:22	Nothing_Much	ubuntu can handle beta
18:29:27	kaen	http://198.23.227.119:8010/dist/
18:29:43	Nothing_Much	is that your personal server?
18:29:46	kaen	the x86-64 package closest to the bottom is the latest
18:29:47	kaen	yeah
18:30:08	kaen	same one kaen test is on :P
18:30:23	Nothing_Much	nice
18:35:09	Nothing_Much	what was that one map where you had to capture points?
18:36:23	Nothing_Much	oh
18:38:28	Nothing_Much	which distros do you use to test, kaen?
18:40:35	kaen	I run debian wheezy
18:40:39	kaen	I think raptor is on suse
18:41:09	kaen	that's all the testing it gets as far as I know :P
18:41:25	Nothing_Much	Cool
18:41:33	Nothing_Much	Did you know wheezy is stable now?
18:41:40	kaen	yep :)
18:41:58	Nothing_Much	nice
18:43:11	Nothing_Much	Holy hell, there's bitfighter in the AUR (arch linux)!
18:44:48	kaen	I think raptor might have packaged that
18:45:01	kaen	I used arch once upon a time
18:45:14	kaen	nope
18:45:17	kaen	not raptor...
18:45:25	kaen	never heard of this carstene1ns character...
18:45:34	Nothing_Much	It's pretty intense as far as Linux distros go
18:45:47	Nothing_Much	Gentoo I've heard is much more intense
18:46:16	kaen	yeah
18:46:16	Nothing_Much	Oh and I believe carstenelns was on IRC here once
18:46:25	kaen	at least arch has binary packages
18:46:38	kaen	I'm not certain but I think gentoo makes you build everything
18:46:57	Nothing_Much	I think Gentoo has them too, in the form of portage or something
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19:36:11	fordcars	hey kaen what is neutral team's index in lua again?
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20:00:20	raptor	kaen: do you have the buildbot doing x86 and x86_64?
20:00:22	raptor	for linux
20:00:40	kaen	just 64 for now
20:00:47	kaen	I could set up 32bit pretty quick
20:02:55	raptor	probably not needed, i was just curious..
20:32:01	Nothing_Much	raptor, are you familiar with the arch linux build of bf?
20:32:34	raptor	I little bit
20:32:53	raptor	watusimoto and I registered on the arch system and contacted the guy to trigger a new build
20:33:06	Nothing_Much	well it's in the AUR so it's somewhat a package :)
20:34:03	raptor	oh actually... the OBS can build for arch now
20:34:43	raptor	oh hey, they updated to 018a finally..
20:36:33	raptor	brb
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