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| 07:43:57 | YoshiSmb | Hello! |
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| 09:06:09 | raptor | good morning! |
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| 10:19:35 | raptor | buenos! |
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| 12:09:10 | bobdaduck | mornin' gents |
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| 12:26:05 | raptor | hi |
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| 12:51:45 | Little_Apple | hello |
| 12:51:52 | raptor | hi |
| 12:52:29 | Little_Apple | question! what is bitfighter's default aspect ratio? |
| 12:52:35 | raptor | 1:1 |
| 12:53:00 | raptor | but if you mean virtual resolution, then it is 800x600 |
| 12:53:01 | | Little_Apple has a dumb look on his face |
| 12:53:04 | Little_Apple | oh ok. |
| 12:53:53 | raptor | i may understand aspect ratios differently than you do: |
| 12:54:08 | raptor | I understand them as a ratio to apply to the original resolution |
| 12:54:39 | raptor | so if the original resolution was 600x600, and i applied a ratio of 4:3, then the output resolution is 800x600 |
| 12:55:20 | raptor | but our original is 800x600 and we apply a 1:1 scale, unless you do fullscreen stretched mode |
| 12:55:29 | raptor | in which case it's all funky |
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| 13:34:30 | bobdaduck | um |
| 13:34:36 | bobdaduck | I can't make slipzones via levelgen? |
| 13:36:39 | Little_Apple | bug! |
| 13:36:46 | Little_Apple | maybe! |
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| 15:51:42 | raptor | oh good! |
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| 16:15:46 | raptor | i'm downloading and installing 'openarena' to see how they do bots.. |
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| 18:49:58 | | BFLogBot Commit: f48bfe2aa451 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Joystick button rendering almost working again... you can see real progress on the Options>Input page. Buttons now have labels, but the special labels (like for PS) are not yet there. Spacing seems to be about right, and vertical centering has been fixed. Also, unused methods have been removed. |
| 18:50:03 | Watusimoto_ | good night |
| 18:50:07 | raptor | night! |
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| 19:28:52 | raptor | i like to hop i like to hop i like to hop on top of pop |
| 19:31:15 | raptor | stop! you must not hop on pop! |
| 19:38:33 | bobdaduck | wut |
| 19:38:35 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 19:40:11 | raptor | bobdaduck: would it make more sense to reduct the bot options to just 2: MIN PLAYERS and FORCE BALANCE ? |
| 19:40:32 | raptor | *reduce |
| 19:40:33 | bobdaduck | unless you're going to add an "advanced server options menu" |
| 19:40:58 | raptor | see... people keep telling me to make it simpler, but i don't know how |
| 19:41:26 | bobdaduck | in the hostgame menu: auto add bots |
| 19:41:30 | bobdaduck | that's the only option needed. |
| 19:41:47 | raptor | uh, what about how many? |
| 19:42:03 | bobdaduck | default auto balance teams, default enough bots to match players |
| 19:43:31 | raptor | yes but |
| 19:43:33 | raptor | how many? |
| 19:43:55 | bobdaduck | if there is only one player, make it so there are four players in-game. |
| 19:44:14 | bobdaduck | otherwise just add bots to balance teams. |
| 19:44:47 | raptor | hmm |
| 19:45:02 | raptor | so you don't think people will want to specify how many total players a game should have? |
| 19:45:19 | raptor | i've seen some games where the option is just: MIN PLAYERS |
| 19:45:30 | raptor | if greater than 0, then it adds bots up to that number |
| 19:47:54 | bobdaduck | could work |
| 19:48:24 | bobdaduck | But we should just have a auto-add bots yes no and then just rail people into one standard option. If they really care let them change it in the .ini |
| 19:51:01 | raptor | i'm having a hard time thinking that'll be enough for people - in all of my mutliplayer + bots gaming experience, I always wanted to edit the number of bots, and was glad it was easy to do so in the menus |
| 19:51:54 | bobdaduck | We can let people do that in an in-game menu. "add bots" |
| 19:52:34 | raptor | right now, adding or subtracting bots turns off the auto-balancing |
| 19:52:43 | raptor | because otherwise you'll be fighting the system |
| 19:56:08 | bobdaduck | not a big deal |
| 19:59:31 | raptor | kaen: do you have thoughts on this matter? |
| 19:59:46 | raptor | my honest opinion is that having a 'min players' option would be more useful than not |
| 20:00:12 | raptor | but i'm also a type of person who loves to have control over configuration.. |
| 20:00:41 | bobdaduck | we'll let people. |
| 20:00:43 | bobdaduck | In the ini. |
| 20:01:04 | bobdaduck | We want to make the game as easy as possible for new players, as I understand per watusio |
| 20:01:28 | bobdaduck | And even with descriptions it still adds a small layer of complexity |
| 20:18:10 | kaen | I think it's being over-thought. |
| 20:18:59 | kaen | change "robot balancing" to "robots balance teams" and drop the "force team balance" option if you really think it's too complicated. |
| 20:19:44 | kaen | the only source of confusion for me is the fact that there are two team-balance related options. other than that it's as simple as you could make it imo |
| 20:23:41 | bobdaduck | whats wrong with this: |
| 20:23:41 | bobdaduck | for a = 0, 5 do |
| 20:23:56 | bobdaduck | levelgen error: function arguments expected near 'for' |
| 20:25:20 | kaen | syntax error above it |
| 20:25:25 | bobdaduck | ahh |
| 20:25:26 | bobdaduck | thanks |
| 20:26:44 | bobdaduck | reporting error: I don't seem to be able to set a turret's heal rate via levelgen |
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| 21:27:33 | | BFLogBot Commit: d1f67a57f959 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Minor robot menu changes: move the menu up to near the top, minor text change |
| 21:27:35 | | BFLogBot Commit: 9fc3aa6ddda7 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Alpha blend the green menu editing instructions a little to make the yellow help text stand out more |
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| 22:26:37 | | BFLogBot Commit: 25c7ba214369 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Make MOTD a little fancier.. what do you think? |
| 22:45:12 | raptor | night! |
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| 23:18:05 | raptor | well i lied - noisy neighbors have decided that I shouldn't go to sleep yet.. |
| 23:45:25 | | BFLogBot Commit: 89062358bd30 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix bug with menu enum alignment |