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IRC Log for 2013-07-19

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09:11:46raptorgood day!


09:13:01raptorwe have 15 levels!


09:13:08bobdaducklol


09:13:18raptorwhich seems...  rather high


09:13:22raptorwhich is good!


09:14:33bobdaducklol


09:14:42bobdaduckAND THEY'RE ALL FROM FOOTLOOSE


09:15:08raptorno comment


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09:30:33Tttt7858Hi.


09:31:09bobdaduckttt


09:31:10bobdaduckttttt


09:31:11bobdaduckttttt


09:31:15bobdaduckjo


09:31:17bobdaduckhi


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10:16:42watusimoto1possible goal icon:


10:16:43watusimoto1http://cdn4.fontspace.com/preview/charmap/9febe0df3a54cc281969f4c53d4c6c88.png


10:16:55raptorhello


10:17:02watusimoto14th row, 7th from the left


10:17:08watusimoto14 hollow arrows pointing inwards


10:17:10watusimoto1and hellp


10:17:12watusimoto1hello


10:17:31raptorhmmm


10:18:18raptorI wish I had design ability...


10:18:19watusimoto1I don't love it myself... but getting desperate


10:19:13watusimoto1how about a heart?


10:19:19raptoroh please no


10:19:31raptorI was able to work a little in-game last night once you finally removed it..


10:21:45watusimoto1http://www.fontsquirrel.com/fonts/Rhomus-Omnilots


10:22:00raptorooooo


10:22:01raptorpretty


10:22:08watusimoto17th row, 6th char... 6 triangles pointing in


10:22:31raptorthat was similar to my idea


10:22:37raptorbut iwth 5 or 7


10:22:59raptorthat's a neat font..


10:23:04watusimoto1not sure we can use this font directly, but we can use the symbol


10:25:41bobdaduckuh


10:25:50bobdaduckyeah maybe


10:27:02raptordo we need a drawing session?:  http://www.twiddla.com/1247592


10:27:22watusimoto1Use one of these for the teleporter:


10:27:23watusimoto1http://www.dafont.com/fluid-spiral.font


10:27:34watusimoto1I have to go... no time to twiddla at the moment


10:27:53raptoroooo, i like A


10:28:01raptorthat's cool!


10:28:25watusimoto1Or these


10:28:25watusimoto1http://www.dafont.com/crop-circle-dingbat.font


10:28:45raptorhaha


10:29:39watusimoto1a goal here?


10:29:39watusimoto1http://www.dafont.com/square-things.font


10:31:30watusimoto1http://www.dafont.com/circle-things.font   <== letter "l" for goal?


10:31:47raptori'm thinking it should not be drawn with textures..


10:31:54watusimoto1maybe not


10:32:07raptorbut htese provide good design ideas


10:33:28watusimoto1ok, well I gotta go.


10:33:31watusimoto1see y'all laters!


10:38:53raptorbye


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11:02:37raptorWatusimoto: if that's you, you can join our twiddla session:  http://www.twiddla.com/1247592


11:02:44raptorto see some ideas


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11:08:44thread_I failed the captcha trying to get in... I must be a robot


11:09:04raptorno no - captcha is to guarantee that *only* robots can get in!


11:09:22thread_oh


11:09:24raptorthe internet is slowly becoming sentient..


11:10:22thread_that may or may not mean anything. sentient like the cores in Portal? then I'm not really worried


11:11:48bobdaducklol


11:17:41thread_So the fancy dessert level show is tonight right?


11:18:33raptoryep


11:18:36raptor9pm EST


11:18:41raptoris that 7, here, right?


11:19:16bobdaduckyeah


11:19:32thread_how long will it last?


11:21:02raptorat least until all levels are cycled through


11:21:32bobdaduckuntil three AM tomorrow


11:21:44bobdaduckgive or take a bit.


11:25:44bobdaduckughhh


11:26:15bobdaduckSTUPID SCRIPTS.


11:26:38raptorbobdaduck: I'm using that twiddla page for IDEAS not scribbling!


11:26:46bobdaduckthat is my idea


11:26:49bobdaduckwe should use that


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11:48:45bobdaduckLAUNCH.


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11:48:54Little_Applehello


11:49:03raptorhi


11:49:26Little_Applesomething about footloose's entry?


11:52:12raptorhas the server gone up earlier than the party before?


11:52:16Little_Appleyep


11:52:17raptorcontest server


11:52:19raptorreally?


11:52:21Little_Appleyes


11:52:25raptorhow much earlier?


11:52:27Little_Appleusually a few days before actually..


11:52:40raptorhmm


11:52:48raptorok, well, maybe i'll put it up when I get home


11:52:53raptorin a couple hours


11:53:00Little_Applealrighty


11:53:04Little_Appleill try to be there...


11:53:16Little_Applemight be a little late


11:53:17raptorand tell footloose to get her level to me ASAP


11:53:27Little_Appleshes not online on skype..


11:53:33Little_Appleand was off all day yesterday


11:53:41Little_Applethey might have lost internet


11:53:45Little_Applemy server is also down..


11:53:49raptori think she needs to shift her sleeping schedule about 6 hours in the reverse direction..


11:53:51Little_Appleno, its back


11:53:58Little_Applehaha


11:54:15Little_Appleshe was almost nocturnal at one point..


11:54:32Little_Applelike.. going to sleep at 7


11:54:34Little_Applein the morning


11:56:19raptorb;ah


11:56:29raptorthat's one way to drain brain power


11:57:00raptori mean, like seriously - research has just been done that shows bad sleep schedules growing up actually reduces your brain power for the rest of your life..


11:57:53Little_Applelovely


12:02:09Little_Applethis game is amazing..


12:02:15raptorwhich?


12:03:10Little_Appleworlds scariest police chases.


12:03:16raptorhaha


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12:27:07Little_Applebitfighter for ps1!


12:27:20raptorwhat is the SDK like?


12:27:25Little_Appleuhh


12:30:11Little_Applei have no idea..


12:39:51raptorheading out - back later..


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13:12:29Watusimotohello


13:16:15bobdaduckhello


13:16:19bobdaduckwhat can I do ya for?


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13:34:06bobdaduckFor the record, I'm *against* government testing on bitfighter ships.


13:34:35bobdaduckor "bips" as I've affectionately taken to call them.


13:36:16Little_Applenot blips?


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13:36:32bobdaduckNo.  Bips.


13:36:36bobdaduckThat is the official term.


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13:37:43Little_Appleraptor: footloose is MIA!


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13:38:00Watusimotohere is a proposal for ranks


13:38:08Watusimotowe have 9 tiers


13:38:11raptorMIA


13:38:37Little_Applethats one big cake


13:39:02Watusimoto>10, > 100. > 500, > 1000, >5000, >10,000, > 15,000, > 20,000


13:39:04bobdaduckSHE WAS ABDUCTED BY THE BOPS.


13:39:11Watusimotobelow 10 you have no rank


13:39:38Watusimotofirst 3 ranks get 1,2, or 3 red chevrons pointing up, in a stack like sgt stripes


13:39:45Watusimotonext 3 ranks are the same but blue


13:39:51Watusimototop 3 ranks are the same but yellow


13:39:56Watusimotothis way it will be compact


13:40:07Watusimotochevrons will be dispalyed before your name


13:40:10Little_Appleso like.. starfleet.. but bitfighter. bitfleet.


13:40:17Watusimotoby the ship and also in the scoreboard


13:40:22Watusimoto(maybe after your name?)


13:40:44Little_Applemaybe they could be displayed as a badge?


13:40:46Watusimotothis would be based on # games played (official or otherwise)


13:40:56bobdaduckCould you have like, one cheveron be green and the other two reds or something?


13:41:46Watusimotoaccording to this proposal, we'd have 1342 players > 10, 154 in tier 2, 46 in tier 3, 24 in tier 4, 3 in tier 5, and 0 in the top 3 tiers


13:42:05Watusimoto(top player has 8814 games)


13:42:30Little_Applewith the top rank you get unlimited access to nukes, correct?


13:42:54Watusimotowe could reduce the number of upper tiers and make the lower tiers more granular (adding a 50 and 200 category, for example)


13:43:08Watusimoto(maybe a 2000 category as well)


13:43:25Watusimotowe can continue to expand on the upper end by adding either new colors, or a brand new symbol > 10000


13:43:52Watusimotothoughts?


13:43:53bobdaduckI want all the cheverons to solidify into the almighty triangle


13:44:04Little_Appletri-force?


13:44:05Watusimotomaybe > 10000


13:44:09Little_Appleor trigon trifecta?


13:44:13Watusimotoyou get the triangle


13:44:13bobdaduckno not a triforce fool


13:44:19bobdaduckBips worship the triangle


13:44:23Little_Appleoh so the trigon trifecta then.


13:44:24bobdaduckyeah


13:44:24Little_Applegotcha.


13:45:35Watusimotoactually, I would definitely add a 200 and 2000 tier


13:45:37Little_Appleso all bips worship the triangle..?


13:45:41Little_AppleIS BITFIGHTER A CULT?


13:45:52bobdaduckNo.


13:45:56bobdaduckIts a cult-ure.


13:46:02Little_Appleooooooh


13:46:03bobdaduckthat last part is very important.


13:46:05Little_Appletotally different.


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13:48:24Little_Appleoh no! we killed him with out stupidity!


13:48:41bobdaduckWhat?  I find this to be a very intelligent conversation.


13:49:05Little_Applei think the almighty triangle did not favor him.


13:49:26bobdaduckHe hath angered the triangle.


13:50:37Little_Applethis should be the plot for the 5th indiana jones.


13:51:01Little_Appleindiana jones... IN SPACE


13:51:07bobdaduckIndiana jones and the Bips


13:51:19bobdaduckpart 1:  The bops of despair


13:51:27Little_Applecome on george lucas. you lost star wars so this is the only thing left to do.


13:51:29bobdaduck....  *starts making level*


13:51:47Little_Applethis is pure brilliance.


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13:52:24Little_Applewe werent talking about you when you left!


13:52:31bobdaduckNOT AT ALL.


13:52:43raptorrouter problems...


13:52:44bobdaduck...honestly I can't quite tell


13:54:55Little_Applemy cuts have healed! i can flip again!


13:56:36Watusimotoso I see you guys love the rank proposal!


13:56:58bobdaduckJust make sure the almighty triangle is the highest option


13:56:59raptorI have a natural tendency to tune out inane conversation...   ranks?


13:57:18bobdaduckpast that its just a aesthetic feature to please the masses.


13:57:22raptorconsensus from the channel - start the contest server??


13:57:23Little_Applethe almighty triangle should be like a highlander thing.


13:57:26Little_Applethere can be only one!


13:57:34bobdaduckNO RAPTOR.


13:57:38bobdaduckFOOTLOOSE IS STILL MIA.


13:57:48Little_Applelike the almighty triangle should be given to the player on top at the time


13:57:53bobdaduckyeah


13:58:28raptori got a badly mispelled message from her late last night saying she has a level and will submit it today...


13:58:30Little_Applei just spew out genius.


13:59:16bobdaduckI dunno if spew would be the right word.


13:59:19bobdaduckLeak, perhaps.


13:59:24Little_Applelol


14:00:37Little_Applewhen are penguins being added?!


14:01:09bobdaduckwhat would a penguin do?


14:01:35Little_Applea weapon... duh


14:02:03bobdaduckBut like what would its effects be


14:02:20Little_Appleit slides along a wall


14:02:39Little_Appleforever.


14:03:03bobdaduckdoes it hurt people?


14:03:13Little_Appleone hit kill.


14:03:21bobdaduckI can do that.


14:03:28raptorso am I waiting for footloose?


14:03:36bobdaduckpretty much.


14:03:42raptorbecause she still hasn't read my message for her from last night...


14:03:43bobdaduckIf she's not here by 5 go ahead and start it up


14:03:44Little_Appleawesome!


14:03:54bobdaduckare you sure you even sent it to her?


14:04:00raptorYES


14:04:08raptorthis one is in my outbox!


14:04:28Little_Applecould you add it later after the server is up- no wait. then everyone would know which is nevermind no one listen to me


14:04:33raptorwe have 15 levels!


14:04:35Watusimotoraptor: if you really don't know what I;m talking about see this:


14:04:37Watusimotohttp://pastie.org/8156590


14:04:44Watusimotoignore all the bobdaduck and Little_Apple junk


14:05:12Little_Applejunk??


14:05:15Little_Applewisdom!


14:05:21Watusimotothough I've kind of given up on getting any constructive feedback from this group today!


14:05:35bobdaduckIts an aesthetic feature.


14:05:40raptorranks based on games played?


14:05:53bobdaduckIt doesn't actually really DO anything.  There's not a whole lot to give feedback about.


14:06:03bobdaduckIts a good implementation, yes.


14:06:09raptorwould these be little indicators next to player's names?


14:06:12raptorin-game?


14:06:14raptoror elsewhere..


14:06:20bobdaduckbobdaduck ^


14:06:37bobdaduckOh.


14:06:38bobdaduckYeah um


14:06:40Little_Applewhy not badges?


14:06:43bobdaduckit might look weird when you stop to chat


14:06:50bobdaduck<<bobdaduck^>


14:06:56Watusimotoin game, in scoreboard


14:07:07Watusimotomaybe eventually in forums


14:08:15Little_Applewhyyyyy nooooot baaadgesssss


14:09:11bobdaduckLA has a point.  It is redundant.


14:09:41raptor<raptorʭ>


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14:10:29Watusimotowhy chevrons and not bades?  is that the question?


14:11:00Little_Appleyes.


14:11:18Little_Applelike, a badge with chevrons


14:11:40bobdaduckor just a badge with a number or something.


14:12:56Little_Appleor a portrait of general macarthur with a corncob pipe!


14:12:57bobdaduckfootloose has awoken.


14:13:21Little_Appleim on it.


14:13:31bobdaduckI already did


14:13:32bobdaduckxD


14:13:40Little_Applewoohoo


14:14:47Little_Applei wanna see dem fancy desserts!


14:14:51Watusimotoit *could* be a badge, but the idea is to provide recognition to dedicated players, and let others identifiy vetrans at site


14:14:52Watusimotosight


14:15:04Watusimotobadges are less suited for that


14:15:10bobdaducktrue.


14:15:26Little_Applethey would use existing stats, correct?


14:15:38raptori like the idea of insignia if it's small


14:16:03raptornothing blantant


14:16:10bobdaduckyeah.


14:16:11Little_Appleperhaps a slightly larger badge thats closest to the name?


14:17:16bobdaduckOr an earlier idea was to modify the ships slightly.


14:17:27bobdaduckWhat if... We changed the hull color?


14:17:32Little_Appleand if the player with the almighty triangle joins a server they get admin power and one shot kill phasers.


14:20:02raptorwhat about a 8x8 block next to the users name dedicated to a green insignia


14:20:14raptoror maybe gold


14:20:18raptorin-game


14:20:31Little_AppleSHE SENT IT


14:20:41bobdaduckshe sent it


14:21:20raptor16 levels!


14:21:29Little_Applewoohoo!


14:21:34raptorlet me do some testing...


14:21:36Watusimotoexcellent


14:21:50Watusimotozemmer and invisible will be getting up at 3Am to play


14:22:01Watusimotoblech


14:22:11raptorha!


14:22:13Little_Appleamazing


14:22:30bobdaducklol


14:22:47raptorlet me do some last minute sanity checks before I stand up the server...


14:22:58bobdaducklol


14:25:46Little_Applei guess i should make a post on the g+ page..


14:26:12bobdaduckyeah same.


14:26:13bobdaduckxD


14:26:17bobdaduckI'LL GET TO IT


14:26:26raptornot yet!


14:26:43raptorI have to make sure the server is kaen-looped


14:27:05raptorso when the scripted entries take down the server it'll resurrect


14:27:50bobdaducklol


14:30:51raptorhow do I allow all level change?


14:30:55raptorjust no password?


14:31:31Little_Applewith vote?


14:31:40raptornah...  no voting


14:31:47Little_Appleyes!


14:32:07raptor'yes!' for what?


14:32:15Little_Appleyes for chaos!


14:32:33raptorok...  what are people suggestions?


14:32:40raptoroh wait


14:32:43raptori always put on a password


14:32:45raptornevermind


14:32:50Little_Applegg!


14:34:00bobdaduck_K usually used dates


14:34:20bobdaducklike 0713


14:34:22Little_Applelike.. his ex?


14:34:27Little_Apple*badumtsh*


14:36:31raptoryeah, so...  in case anyone wants to know...   CONTEST SERVER UP


14:37:22bobdaducklol


15:10:41bobdaduckkaen around?


15:28:22raptorWatusimoto: you should see this one...


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15:34:26Watusimotoraptor: is that message current?


15:34:35raptoruh no


15:34:43Watusimotothat is an intersting mechanic


15:34:45Watusimotothose lines


15:35:59bobdaduckAttention, everyone.


15:36:07bobdaduckI have just written a fanfic.


15:36:09bobdaduckThat is all.


15:36:39raptorI have to say that one level with the bots is really crazy


15:37:55raptorman...  now I have to put up the post...


15:37:57raptorsigh


15:38:01Little_Applerepairbots should be illegal. like. federal law illegal.


15:38:14raptorthey're boogers


15:38:21raptorbut they don't shield!


15:38:25raptor:)


15:46:29Watusimotothey should not be used on levels with self-repairing items


15:48:53bobdaduckI'ma head home


15:48:59bobdaduckget on the contest server in like 10 min


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15:49:13raptor2 of every 5 street lights are broken in detroit...


15:51:44Little_Applethis fanfic is excellent.


15:56:03Little_Applethis should be in the history section of the wiki.


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16:10:17Watusimotoraptor, quick question


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16:10:23Watusimotomaybe you don't knwo the answer


16:10:41WatusimotoI need to modify the master, and one of the m2s queries


16:11:04Watusimotojust writing this is suggestint the answer


16:11:05raptorok


16:11:11raptork


16:11:30WatusimotoI think Ill need to creaet a parallel method, and use versioning to determine which to use


16:12:15Watusimotoand give the new version a new version number in the protocol


16:12:37Watusimotodoes that seem right?


16:13:07Watusimotothat way master would still be able to communicate with older clients


16:13:29raptormaster is already using 019 code


16:13:34raptoryes


16:13:54Watusimotobut I will need to maintain 2 copies of my method


16:13:55raptori use the protocol version for logic changes


16:14:02Watusimotountil all the 018a clients are gone


16:14:21raptornot unless the signature is different..


16:14:22Watusimotoone without the new param for 018a, one with the new param for 019


16:14:42Watusimotothe signature is different


16:14:51WatusimotoI need to return an additional value in 019


16:15:43Watusimotocan I have 2 copies of the same method with different protocol numbers?


16:15:48Watusimotomaybe that will work


16:15:53Watusimotothat would be a tad cleaner


16:18:24raptori think we should at least support protocols for one version of bitfighter in the past


16:18:55raptorand at least some basic one for *all* clients telling them to upgrade...


16:23:05Watusimotoagreed


16:25:05raptori think I updated the master protocol number since 018a, so you shouldn't need to again...


16:25:08raptor(i'll check)


16:26:10raptornope!


16:26:11raptori didn't


16:26:17raptorso you'll probably need to update it..


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16:41:50WatusimotoI guess I cannot have two m2s methods side-by-side that differ only by signature and protocol


16:43:19raptornew method!


16:46:20Watusimotos2mRequestAuthentication and s2mRequestAuthentication2


16:46:22Watusimotoyuck!


16:46:42WatusimotoI *thought* there was a way to keep the names the same


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16:48:41Watusimotoif we have two different method names, what does the version do?


16:48:42raptorhmmm


16:49:05raptorthe version in the TNL_DECLARE_RPC... ?


16:49:10raptoror the protocol version?


16:49:20Watusimotoin the TNL_*


16:49:43WatusimotoI use protolc version like this:


16:49:45Watusimotoif(mCMProtocolVersion <= 6)      // 018a ==> 6, 019 ==> 7


16:49:45Watusimotom2sSetAuthenticated(id, walk->mPlayerOrServerName, status, walk->getBadges());


16:49:45Watusimotoelse


16:49:45Watusimotom2sSetAuthenticated(id, walk->mPlayerOrServerName, status, walk->getBadges(), walk->getGamesPlayed());


16:50:00Watusimotothat is straightforward


16:50:09raptorhmmm...


16:50:20Watusimotobut it appears I need to rename my m2sSetAuthenticated method for 019


16:50:21raptori'm trying to remember, but I'm watching the kids...


16:50:28Watusimotono worries


16:50:40WatusimotoI'll get it to work


16:51:33Watusimototomorrow, as I'm falling asleep...


16:51:49Watusimotogood level collection for the contest, btw


16:51:53raptorok


16:51:58raptoryes!


16:52:10WatusimotoI am certain of the authroship of 3 of them


16:52:25Watusimotoalways a fun game, the guessing


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16:53:38raptorare you now?  :)


16:53:43Watusimotoyes


16:53:45Watusimoto:-)


16:53:49raptorbecause...   it may suprise you...


16:53:51raptorok


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16:53:56Watusimoto(doesn't mean I'm right...)


16:54:07raptortwo hours and your kids get up!


16:54:17WatusimotoI;ll be interested to hear how the lines work in a game that is unlaggy


16:54:40raptoryeah...  very badly...  and because client-side prediction doesn't want to go through walls..


16:54:40Watusimotoif it is a good mechanism, we could add it in to the game properly, with client-side prediction


16:55:31Watusimotoit probably works well enough as-is to see if it is fun, or just a one-off novelty


16:56:06Watusimotobut I could see levels where you had to get on one of those to access an area, but that made you vulnerable to attack before you got there


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17:17:10raptorbats was better


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17:22:16bobdaduck_raptor where is contest discussion thread


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17:39:22tttt7858Hi.


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17:42:59tttt7858qq


17:44:31tttt7858Ugh.


17:44:46tttt78589 tiers?


17:45:09tttt78583 tiers 9 ranks much more reasonable


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18:50:04raptor17 levels!


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