00:02:45 | bobdaduck | sorry couldn't help with map order and such xD |
00:04:01 | YoshiSmb | raptor |
00:04:06 | YoshiSmb | you're not in the server? |
00:08:09 | raptor | you admins will need to set level times/scores appropriately if you think it's needed |
00:08:54 | YoshiSmb | raptor, you did say something about a badge powers? |
00:09:01 | YoshiSmb | a few days ago? |
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00:22:27 | YoshiSmb | raptor? |
00:23:15 | Watusimoto | I think it is now |
00:24:42 | Watusimoto | it is now |
00:25:26 | YoshiSmb | Watusimoto, did raptor say something about badge powers? |
00:29:10 | raptor | YoshiSmb: I have the power to give badges |
00:29:15 | raptor | i will do so after the BBB |
00:29:18 | YoshiSmb | ah |
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01:16:00 | sam686 | raptor, getting some lag on current BBB server, everyone kindof complains.. |
01:16:15 | sam686 | just random lag spikes every few minutes though |
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01:16:38 | sam686 | just had another lag spike |
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01:22:36 | YoshiSmb | later |
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01:43:56 | raptor | sam686: think your server will be better? |
01:49:35 | sam686 | possibly, not sure about other players ping, but will probably fix annoying lag spikes.. |
01:51:05 | sam686 | but try ctrl+f6 and tell us packet drops |
01:51:28 | sam686 | mine says 140 send drops 3 recv drops, maybe my internet but not sure |
01:51:55 | raptor | i'm still playing fine |
01:51:56 | sam686 | thats out of 654000 packet sent |
01:51:58 | raptor | no real lag |
01:54:35 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1404/140404_20-53-55.txt there is 7 "Ping timed out" for me, pinging closest server (second one from traceroute) |
01:55:11 | sam686 | I have just saw everyone's ping shot up to more then 300 for one second.. |
01:58:09 | sam686 | 4 times I saw everyone's ping all go over 300 |
01:58:40 | sam686 | although my internet might have like 0.1% random dropped packet its not as bad.. |
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02:13:13 | kaen | I think it's missing |
02:13:20 | kaen | local sd = require("stardust") |
02:13:23 | raptor | subway.levelgen:216: attempt to index global 'sd' (a nil value) |
02:13:29 | raptor | ok, i'll add that |
02:14:13 | YoshiSmb | Hi everyone |
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02:59:36 | amgine123 | i lost connecrtion fo BBB |
02:59:41 | raptor | sam686: you around? |
03:00:03 | raptor | never mind server came back |
03:01:01 | amgine123 | BBB died |
03:01:12 | amgine123 | i cant fplay to much lag |
03:01:40 | sam686 | maybe my internet deside to have major problems now |
03:01:45 | sam686 | way too much packet liss |
03:01:47 | sam686 | loss |
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03:02:08 | raptor | ok back to other server? |
03:06:04 | sam686 | My internet had massive ping time out periods .http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1404/140404_22-05-34.txt |
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03:27:25 | YoshiSmb | a |
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04:07:16 | sam686 | raptor, we should get game recording from both servers BBB was on. |
04:07:33 | sam686 | its the end if BBB |
04:07:38 | sam686 | of *not if |
04:08:25 | raptor | yes |
04:08:31 | raptor | i will compress them from your server... |
04:08:37 | raptor | and thank you for being a backup sam686 |
04:10:47 | raptor | transferring from your server now... |
04:15:38 | amgine123 | backi |
04:15:42 | amgine123 | hod it go |
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04:17:56 | sam686 | found a problem on DnD, adding bot then kicking bot breaks levelgen of DnD (it doesn't crash but causes invisible weapons) |
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04:57:53 | amgine123 | gtg aridaverchi |
05:01:59 | raptor | good BBB everyone! |
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05:02:56 | sam686 | game recorder happens to record voice chat.. |
05:04:14 | vs73nx | i liked the BBB aswell |
05:04:24 | vs73nx | sam686: great fun it was... |
05:04:39 | raptor | sam686: it does! |
05:13:26 | raptor | sam686: was there a way to make the playback bar disappear? |
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05:14:47 | sam686 | move mouse to top edge to hide bottom bar during playback |
05:15:11 | sam686 | a little dumb, but at least it can be hidden for ctrl+q screenshot |
05:15:46 | sam686 | that is if raptor reads this eventually.. |
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05:17:50 | Tazinator | hi, how long are map recorded game downloads supposed to take? |
05:20:52 | sam686 | downloading through in-server download recorded game? I find it takes like 5 minutes, too long... |
05:21:24 | Tazinator | that about fits how long I'm waiting.. |
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05:21:38 | sam686 | Much better off downloading http://sam6.25u.com/bitfighter/bbb.master.record.7z and http://sam6.25u.com/bitfighter/bbb.master.record.7z contains all recorded games during BBB |
05:22:49 | sam686 | on windows, you may need 7-zip (or a non-free winRAR) |
05:32:13 | raptor | wait wait |
05:32:19 | raptor | i'm ordering them properly |
05:32:26 | raptor | and removing the bad ones |
05:32:33 | raptor | and I'll do a post about them |
05:33:27 | raptor | does in game map recording downloads not respect the NoDataConnections INI option? |
05:34:21 | sam686 | When I added the "Download recorded games" I had it only show up when server have game recording on. |
05:34:21 | Tazinator | how do I watch a recorded game? |
05:34:39 | Tazinator | oh nvm |
05:34:56 | sam686 | somethere in "host" menu |
05:34:58 | Tazinator | ... getting Error |
05:34:59 | raptor | ah ok |
05:35:05 | Tazinator | recorded gameplay not valid or not compatible |
05:35:07 | Tazinator | :( |
05:35:49 | sam686 | I might need to look at what causing problem with "Download recorded game" not returning correct data.. |
05:35:54 | Tazinator | oh man i had 1300 recorded games in my record folder |
05:36:35 | Tazinator | can you add like, some kind of failsafe against having so many recorded games buildup? |
05:38:02 | sam686 | opened in hex editor, what it downloaded is... JUNK/mostly zero data... |
05:38:19 | sam686 | I need to fix "Download recorded game" |
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05:38:32 | Tazinator | i downloaded from the server, not from you, sam |
05:38:40 | Tazinator | would have, but 200 mb is a lot |
05:39:00 | sam686 | it downloads the correct size, but not the correct data.. |
05:39:44 | raptor | i shutdown the server |
05:43:25 | Tazinator | wow the recorded game is 6.9 MB? |
05:43:32 | Tazinator | this seems excessive |
05:45:42 | sam686 | The client's saving game recording is broken (probably since its ever been added) |
05:46:09 | sam686 | GameConnection::ReceivedRecordedGameplay has: fwrite(f, 1, filedatasize, f); |
05:46:20 | Tazinator | ayway.. raptor, I tried SFXSet=Classic, it does nothing |
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05:46:48 | raptor | recorded deterministic data for 16 players for 8 minutes? |
05:46:53 | raptor | that's really good! |
05:47:11 | sam686 | What am I doing with fwrite(f, 1, filedatasize, f); saving a 4 byte pointer and junk memory after a pointer data? |
05:47:41 | raptor | not sure? |
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05:51:02 | sam686 | so I will say, downloading recorded game through in-game menus is basically broken on 019a/b/c |
05:51:09 | raptor | rats |
05:51:31 | sam686 | needs a client with a fix I just did to get it working right |
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06:17:35 | raptor | ok good night! I have all the replays filtered now and i'll compress them and post them to the forums tomorrow |
06:19:32 | | BFLogBot Commit: c0f434ce6f4d | Author: sam8641 | Message: Prevent broken clients from seeing "Download Recorded Games", Add GameRecordingDownload config option. |
06:19:34 | | BFLogBot Commit: 8977d86737f4 | Author: sam8641 | Message: Fix version going backwards. We are still at 019 when we keep the same CS_PROTOCOL_VERSION. |
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06:24:53 | Tazinator | question: can you make a player name the same as a team name? |
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11:42:18 | Watusimoto | back up |
11:42:41 | Watusimoto | Tazinator: when did you send that msg about bf being down? |
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11:58:59 | Tazinator | watusimoto > about 1 hour ago |
11:59:06 | Watusimoto | ok, thanks |
11:59:19 | Tazinator | i dont have exact date.. |
11:59:23 | Tazinator | but right before 1 hour ago |
12:00:20 | Tazinator | now 2:58.. I acesse and poste at 1:58 |
12:00:28 | Tazinator | :) |
12:01:10 | Watusimoto | what time did I post my question? |
12:01:26 | Tazinator | I mean I posted on the forum |
12:01:48 | Tazinator | this irc client has no date.. |
12:02:04 | Watusimoto | so it worked at 1:58, stopped working sometime after that, and was working again before 2:58 |
12:02:10 | Watusimoto | that's really all we know at this point |
12:02:19 | Tazinator | nono it wasnt working before 1:58 |
12:02:32 | Tazinator | but at 1:58 it started working, and I posted |
12:03:06 | Tazinator | unless it was down AGAIN (while i did dish) |
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12:18:15 | Tazinator | test |
12:18:19 | Tazinator | dang it |
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13:36:28 | raptor | good morning! |
13:44:31 | kaen | morning! |
13:48:45 | raptor | the morning after... |
13:49:06 | raptor | the recording for lamp's flag dungeon is over 70MB |
13:50:56 | kaen | ahaha |
13:51:24 | kaen | the vps I just provisioned has a 1.48ms ping to google.com |
13:51:31 | raptor | whoa! |
13:51:56 | kaen | yeah, I did not expect that. |
13:54:59 | kaen | makes it to bitfighter.org in 74ms |
13:55:23 | kaen | not as great... maybe it's in or near a google data center. |
13:55:34 | kaen | the vps is in buffalo ny |
13:55:51 | raptor | ok |
13:56:04 | raptor | is it a xen or openvz machine? |
13:57:14 | kaen | umm, kvm |
13:57:37 | kaen | I have no idea what the difference is between the three |
13:58:25 | kaen | "standard" tier here: http://www.chicagovps.net/kvm.html |
13:59:38 | raptor | they're all para-virtualization options |
14:00:08 | raptor | kvm is good, probably better than openvz at network utilization, but much, much harder to set up |
14:01:25 | kaen | I drr |
14:01:29 | kaen | I see* |
14:09:36 | raptor | should i provide all the playbacks in one zip file or separately? |
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14:12:53 | kaen | separately I think |
14:16:26 | raptor | oh interesting... we played a few less levels because the maxplayers options was set, and we were too high |
14:20:49 | raptor | aww rats, my 'IA' level didn't get played |
14:21:39 | raptor | .. for the same reason |
14:32:07 | raptor | rats... we skipped 4 levels in total, 3 were Quartz' levels |
14:38:52 | kaen | whoa |
14:38:56 | kaen | happy problem though |
14:39:06 | kaen | I was impressed by the turnout |
14:39:12 | raptor | yeah, me too |
14:39:19 | raptor | i'm calculating the stats now... |
14:44:40 | raptor | what on earth |
14:44:51 | raptor | kaen: were you on the map 'silverstream' ? |
14:44:58 | raptor | it says it has 66 players |
14:47:40 | kaen | there was an incident involving bobdaduck and /addbots |
14:47:51 | raptor | what |
14:48:05 | raptor | ok, that explains it... i'll have to select the second-most level then |
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14:56:45 | raptor | soemthing is wrong with the winning stats... |
14:56:57 | raptor | did we play quite a few less team games?? |
14:57:13 | raptor | all the stats are a lot lower than i'd imagine |
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17:00:26 | raptor | BBB results are up |
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17:29:55 | raptor | BBB is almost over... |
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19:01:30 | raptor | BBB is over! |
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19:13:37 | amgine123 | yo |
19:37:23 | sam686 | Although a few maps got skipped from, maybe MaxPlayers in level, it might have went way past 4 hour if the level didn't skip.. |
19:37:44 | raptor | yes |
19:38:21 | amgine123 | i think yoou never playred my map |
19:38:37 | raptor | we played swarmed |
19:38:49 | amgine123 | ah musta been when i was gone |
19:39:00 | raptor | it was actually a really good game |
19:40:28 | amgine123 | did it play ok? |
19:40:39 | sam686 | There it goes my internet being poor today http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1404/140405_14-38-24.txt (Huge number of "timed out" pings) |
19:41:36 | sam686 | all pings stayed less then 12 ms, meaning it isn't the bandwidth being maxed out at all.. |
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19:52:35 | raptor | oh yeah, the it played very well - black has a slight advantage because of the color, but it was 7 on 6 with the 6 being on black |
20:06:47 | sam686 | My internert Expected Speeds: 30 Mbps downloads and 5 Mbps uploads, the test gaves me random numbers between 10-48 Mbps download and 0.4 to 6 Mbps upload but packet drops always test out as 1-18% |
20:10:46 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/upload/speed_problem.png my speed problem caused by heavy packet drops... |
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20:22:34 | amgine123 | uhoh theres the ini corruption bug again |
20:22:44 | amgine123 | i cant dedicate or host a server |
20:22:52 | amgine123 | and this ini is unchanged |
20:23:38 | amgine123 | Exception Code: 40000015 Exception Offset: 0029eaa7 |
20:24:37 | amgine123 | http://pastie.org/8997016 |
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20:43:11 | fordcars | amgine, I might of had that problem too, just dlete the ini and let Bitfighter recreate it (You'll have to re-enter your settings and login info |
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21:18:13 | kaen | raptor: is there a way to stop the server from shuffling the teams between games? |
21:18:26 | raptor | kaen: hmmm |
21:18:33 | raptor | let me check the ini options.. |
21:18:55 | kaen | I'm looking... not very hopeful |
21:19:22 | raptor | AllowTeamChanging |
21:19:33 | raptor | nope |
21:19:43 | raptor | maybe we need a 'lock teams' option? |
21:20:20 | kaen | that would be very helpful |
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21:20:46 | raptor | i'll open an issie |
21:20:48 | raptor | *issue |
21:20:53 | kaen | thanks :) |
21:22:25 | raptor | done: https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=421 |
21:22:45 | fordcars | Maybe recordings should say what player you are currently looking at? |
21:23:02 | raptor | tada!: https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=420 |
21:23:32 | sam686 | maybe I should add that for recording playback.. |
21:23:49 | sam686 | well soon maybe.. |
21:30:38 | fordcars | Ah cool |
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21:33:44 | Watusimoto | how was the bbb? |
21:33:52 | raptor | ITS OVER |
21:35:48 | raptor | Watusimoto: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=2352 |
21:37:20 | Watusimoto | 21 players in one game?!? |
21:37:31 | Watusimoto | that has to be a record! |
21:38:03 | raptor | it was probably higher, that was just 21 at the end of a game |
21:38:16 | raptor | and we had lots of people for much of the time |
21:38:37 | Watusimoto | sam686 won again?!? |
21:38:53 | raptor | yeah... i'm starting to think he should yield or disqualify himself :) |
21:42:01 | raptor | oh boy... I forgot how much work the BBB is |
21:42:32 | raptor | i'm glad people got me most of the maps suggestions though, but the wrap-up is crazy... especially now with game recordings |
21:42:36 | sam686 | at least 3 of my wins are from non-team games (each non-team game only have 1 winner) |
21:43:04 | raptor | yeah, we had too high of a non-team to team game ratio |
21:43:13 | raptor | so all the winning numbers were low |
21:52:13 | fordcars | Later! |
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21:52:51 | amgine123 | I had 0 wins |
21:54:46 | amgine123 | on ffa maps |
21:57:40 | Watusimoto | I was just playing back some of the recordings (trying to figure out how late my kids were really up :-) |
21:57:50 | Watusimoto | I have some ideas for making playback better |
21:58:08 | Watusimoto | perhaps allow the camera to be fixed to a point rather than a ship |
21:58:19 | Watusimoto | or moved around independent of ships, with the arrow keys, for example |
21:58:31 | raptor | add them to here: https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=420 |
21:58:33 | Watusimoto | or perhaps attached to an object like the flag |
22:01:04 | Watusimoto | ok, added three more ideas to that topic |
22:01:49 | Watusimoto | though that case violates the rule of one case per issue |
22:01:57 | Watusimoto | or one issue per case |
22:02:18 | raptor | yes... and your ideas are a bit more radical |
22:02:36 | Watusimoto | only the one of attaching to a flag |
22:02:44 | Watusimoto | the rest are pretty obvious and incremental |
22:02:57 | raptor | #7 is already done |
22:02:57 | Watusimoto | and the flag one might not even be interesting |
22:03:04 | raptor | just move the mouse to the top |
22:03:12 | Watusimoto | I'll try it |
22:03:26 | Watusimoto | also, I think we should move playback from host to options |
22:03:27 | raptor | the idea of the screen not attached to a control object (ship) seems radical... |
22:03:41 | raptor | that would also pave the way for observer mode |
22:04:11 | sam686 | One of the problem I noticed, in Nexus the gray arrow pointing at where over 10 flags are dropped are pointing at often completely wrong location.. |
22:04:35 | Watusimoto | well... that would be a bug! |
22:04:48 | Watusimoto | also, I noteiced that sometimes objects were not rendered in playback |
22:05:07 | Watusimoto | I saw a red ship pick up a blue flag that was compeletely invisible before the pickup |
22:06:17 | sam686 | maybe the ship was sitting at the flag spawn? which game recording is it? at what time remaining? |
22:06:20 | raptor | could be because the outbound packet was dropped |
22:07:07 | Watusimoto | the recording was bbb11_21_Tower_of_Sherrizah, I'm playing back again to find the place... it happened a couple of times |
22:07:17 | Watusimoto | maybe also depends on which player is centered on? |
22:07:21 | sam686 | there is no such packet drops for server side game recording.. |
22:08:11 | Watusimoto | Look at the red pickup at c. 7:51 |
22:08:30 | Watusimoto | Little apple does makes the grab |
22:09:13 | sam686 | looks like blue flag returned a second ealiear |
22:09:34 | Watusimoto | before |
22:09:35 | Watusimoto | http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/2739/qwut.png |
22:09:52 | sam686 | the problem is the blue flag returns SLOWLY |
22:10:00 | raptor | ah yes |
22:10:17 | raptor | client-side position merging |
22:10:24 | Watusimoto | an instant later |
22:10:25 | Watusimoto | http://img594.imageshack.us/img594/4280/bwgm.png |
22:10:27 | raptor | make the flag move across the map slowly |
22:10:44 | raptor | yes, that's because the flag was in transit client-side |
22:10:49 | sam686 | if you watch in commander map (full map) you see blue flag floating? |
22:10:58 | Watusimoto | but we're looking at server, no? |
22:11:04 | raptor | yes-ish |
22:11:15 | raptor | you are looking at server data filtered through a client |
22:11:27 | sam686 | mostly yes, but the client reads the game recording and does the prediction.. |
22:11:34 | sam686 | won't want jitter playback.. |
22:12:09 | raptor | Watusimoto: you gotta see the 'Eye of Disaster' |
22:12:20 | raptor | one of the highlights of the whole BBB |
22:12:25 | Watusimoto | just before pickup |
22:12:26 | Watusimoto | http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/8638/24kv.png |
22:12:30 | Watusimoto | I saw it last night |
22:12:35 | Watusimoto | craaazy level! |
22:12:44 | sam686 | thats just before blue flag drops |
22:14:15 | Watusimoto | http://img541.imageshack.us/img541/8195/huf2.png |
22:14:24 | Watusimoto | that is just an instant before the pickup |
22:14:45 | Watusimoto | it seems unlikely that l.a. would fly in the same instant the flag is dropped |
22:14:48 | Watusimoto | I don't see it in transit |
22:15:35 | Watusimoto | but it is cool to be able to make these precise screen shots |
22:18:11 | Watusimoto | btw, went to see the Harlem Globetrotters tongiht |
22:21:53 | raptor | oooo |
22:22:32 | Watusimoto | very weird to hear the program translated into luxembourgish |
22:22:57 | Watusimoto | the head guy tried to speak in french from time to time... my son said "funny... he sounds just like you!" |
22:23:08 | sam686 | So there is a flag return floating back too slowly, when returning the flag... http://sam6.25u.com/upload/2909_Highway_2.bf019 |
22:26:13 | sam686 | So my internet seem to have gotten much better, now, Though my speed went higher then it should (30 Mbps downloads and 5 Mbps uploads but my speed test says 65.21 Mbps down 6.58 Mbps up ) |
22:26:37 | raptor | really, what i need to do is find an unprotected server at work to use for BBBs... |
22:26:48 | raptor | but the firewall we have is pretty comprehensive |
22:28:07 | sam686 | one thing I notices is, _k server had been for the most part, lag-free nearly all the time, thats where BBB1-8? was ran at.. |
22:28:17 | raptor | yes |
22:28:25 | raptor | but he also forked out more money, i think |
22:28:26 | Watusimoto | sam686: yes, I see the flag, but not in the levels I was showing |
22:28:55 | sam686 | it shows the same problem with missing flag (missing until it slowly floats back) |
22:29:09 | sam686 | happens when returning flag |
22:30:40 | Watusimoto | it may be the problem, but I would expect in my cmdr map screenshot to be able to see the flag drifing back |
22:30:40 | sam686 | capturing the flag instantly returns flag, but returning flag appears to not return instantly (even though its returned server side, the server incorrectly tells client to float the flag back slowly) |
22:30:55 | Watusimoto | yes, but it should be visible on cmdrs map |
22:31:16 | Watusimoto | well, it is the most likely explanation for the problem, I will agree |
22:35:10 | sam686 | see this: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/screenshot_282.png red ship can get the flag even though it doesn't look like its there (its returned) |
22:45:10 | raptor | i'm building SDL2 on a glibc 2.11 system for a new Linux standalone build |
22:45:28 | raptor | and i've chosen... openSUSE! |
22:49:54 | Watusimoto | sam686: you are right! |
22:50:05 | Watusimoto | I even looked at that point and did not see the flag |
22:50:08 | Watusimoto | but it is there |
22:50:25 | Watusimoto | I thoroughly conceed the point |
22:51:11 | Watusimoto | and with that... I'm going to bed |
22:51:14 | Watusimoto | good night! |
22:51:16 | raptor | night! |
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