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00:00:04kaenmy girlfriend made me get a face book :P


00:00:43kaenI do tons of emailing for work now


00:00:47Nothing_MuchCrazyLinuxNerd: I used Thunderbird for a small while


00:00:53Invisible Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)


00:00:53kaenI did too


00:01:07Nothing_MuchThen I stopped because Gmail and GMX have decent webapps


00:01:09kaeneventually I just switched to a little mail notifier applet and work in gmail


00:01:25CrazyLinuxNerdRemember pop3? oh I was so glad when IMAP was invented :-P no more folder issues...


00:01:43kaenthat is old skool :)


00:02:09CrazyLinuxNerdHaving to make folders in each email client.. not fun


00:03:02Nothing_MuchThat's just crazy


00:03:14CrazyLinuxNerdI run my own email server which uses Zimbra, has a nice webapp, but to be honest, I still prefer a good old fashioned email client


00:04:00CrazyLinuxNerd(To the extent, I even put one on my android..)


00:04:13Nothing_MuchI have no idea how to get an email server running.


00:04:29CrazyLinuxNerdnot that hard tbh


00:04:55CrazyLinuxNerdonly tricky part: Staying out of blacklists, and avoiding breach attempts


00:05:05Nothing_Muchblacklists


00:05:06Nothing_Much?


00:05:37CrazyLinuxNerdhttps://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=https%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FDNSBL


00:05:43CrazyLinuxNerdhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DNSBL *


00:05:50CrazyLinuxNerd(I really should wait for the page to load..)


00:06:12kaennice search engine :)


00:06:14Nothing_Muchlol


00:06:24Nothing_Muchduckduckgo is okay


00:06:30Nothing_Muchit still needs more refinements


00:06:32kaenit's awesome if you're a programmer


00:06:43Nothing_Muchwell, that explains that then :P


00:07:57CrazyLinuxNerdI find it's easier to find results..


00:08:23CrazyLinuxNerdgoogle & friends show too much unrelated information and send you around in circles..


00:09:17Nothing_Muchmaybe I should try it out when searching for wordpress related stuff


00:09:56Watusimotogood night


00:10:02CrazyLinuxNerdcya Watusimoto


00:10:04Nothing_Muchg'night


00:10:37CrazyLinuxNerdNothing_Much: one thing to remember though, if you can't find it it DDG, just type "!g your query" - next thing you know, you're searching google..


00:10:52Nothing_Muchyep


00:11:17Nothing_Muchwhat's that acronym when it's the user keyboard error and not the program's fault?


00:11:45CrazyLinuxNerdhttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=+what%27s+that+acronym+when+it%27s+the+user+keyboard+error+and+not+the+program%27s+fault%3F


00:11:46CrazyLinuxNerd:-P


00:12:13Nothing_Muchpebcak


00:12:19Nothing_Muchthanks :D


00:12:37Nothing_MuchI feel like a dumbass since I've been trying to get wordpress to work on a localhost


00:12:45CrazyLinuxNerdjust never, ever, type "!b your query" - it'll take you to, that, that, "bing"


00:12:47Nothing_Muchand I've been rushing myself


00:12:52Nothing_Muchew


00:12:53Nothing_Muchmicrosoft


00:12:55Nothing_Muchbleh


00:13:14CrazyLinuxNerdwhat's the error on wp?


00:13:18SkybaxHahahahahahahahaha


00:13:32Nothing_MuchJust the fact that I couldn't install a theme through the wordpress thing


00:13:39Nothing_Muchapparently I skipped over quite a few steps


00:13:48Nothing_Muchbut now I need to reinstall apache and well


00:13:56Nothing_Muchapache2: Syntax error on line 140 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/suphp.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_suphp.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_suphp.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory


00:13:58Nothing_MuchAction 'configtest' failed.


00:14:08Watusimoto Quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)


00:14:22CrazyLinuxNerdthe heck, missing libs? what did you delete? how did you try installing?


00:14:29Nothing_Muchapt-get


00:14:41CrazyLinuxNerddeb or bunt?


00:14:43Nothing_Muchubuntu


00:14:45Nothing_Much:D


00:14:54CrazyLinuxNerdyuck, don't like bunt :-P


00:15:14CrazyLinuxNerdall my servers run CentOS..


00:15:25Nothing_Muchaw, well to each their own


00:15:26CrazyLinuxNerd(Including my desktop)


00:15:29Nothing_Muchlol


00:15:32Nothing_Muchwhy not use Fedora?


00:15:56CrazyLinuxNerdI did for a long time, but I found as I needed to get more work done, fixing it's issues was getting in the way


00:16:11Nothing_Muchoh my


00:16:19Nothing_Muchwell, why not debian?


00:16:20CrazyLinuxNerdas for the servers, I wouldn't even attempt FC on them.. it's not made for servers


00:16:31Nothing_Muchwell yeah there's that


00:16:40Nothing_MuchI meant specifically for the desktop


00:16:58Nothing_MuchI used Fedora on a VM, works well, but I don't think I'll ever leave Ubuntu


00:17:12CrazyLinuxNerdI tried debian, while it is okay, I just feel more comfortable in an RPM distro


00:17:22Nothing_Much'specially since their convergence strategy is something I've been interested in a long time


00:17:33Nothing_Muchdebian's pretty good too


00:17:36Nothing_Muchbut it's a bit outdated


00:17:40CrazyLinuxNerdthough I do use kali linux (based on debian) for testing security


00:17:52Nothing_Muchso I then tried Linux Mint Debian Edition


00:17:56CrazyLinuxNerd(in a vm)


00:18:16CrazyLinuxNerdI've heard mint is supposed to be quite user friendly


00:18:23CrazyLinuxNerdnot used it myself though


00:18:28Nothing_Muchit's basically a Windows 7 interface


00:18:30Nothing_Muchnot a big fan of it


00:18:50CrazyLinuxNerdI can't remember the last time I used windows..


00:18:51kaenit's pretty easy to do that sort of stuff on ubuntu


00:18:57Nothing_MuchUbuntu's interface is spot on, as well as Gnome 3


00:18:58kaenthere's a package for it, even


00:19:15Nothing_MuchGnome 3 and Unity imo are amazing desktops


00:19:17kaenand two wiki pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WordPress


00:19:18CrazyLinuxNerdgnome 3 :-/ meh


00:19:29CrazyLinuxNerdXFCE here..


00:19:34kaensame here!


00:19:37Nothing_Muchkaen: yeah I didn't read through the entire apachemysqlphp thing lol


00:19:47kaen:P


00:19:48Nothing_Muchxfce's outdated and fugly


00:19:57kaenit feels that way


00:20:12kaenbut my laptop's GPU shares memory with normal RAM


00:20:21CrazyLinuxNerdHey! it's an out of the way desktop, I prefer an environment that is there to get the job done, not perform all flashy tricks :-P


00:20:26kaenso when it starts paging... the entire system freezes


00:20:36Nothing_MuchCrazyLinuxNerd: pfft, Unity can get the job done


00:20:42Nothing_Muchand gnome 3


00:20:53Nothing_Muchit's just that people are too used to the Windows way of computing


00:21:04CrazyLinuxNerdyeah, but I bet I get better performance :-P


00:21:20kaenI definitely do compared to unity on this machine


00:21:23Nothing_Muchthat's the only upside to using fugly desktops


00:21:44Nothing_MuchUnity and Gnome 3 are so much better, they're just young and immature atm


00:22:07bobdaduckkaen, do pleiades tags work seperately, or conjoined?


00:22:16CrazyLinuxNerdyoung and immature is not a good idea for someone who needs a machine to be working 24/7, without problems :-) one of the reasons I dropped FC


00:22:24kaendefinitely one of those, bobdaduck


00:22:25bobdaducklike if I check "novelty" and "dungeon" is the map a "novel dungeon" or is it both seperately?


00:22:34kaenI think it's AND


00:22:43SkybaxFinished it! Hopefully I didn't break anything.. testing now..


00:22:59bobdaduckAnd what, exactly, is RTS?


00:23:12Nothing_Muchyeah, that's understandable


00:23:23Nothing_Muchbtw, Fedora Core doesn't exist anymore


00:23:25Nothing_Muchonly Fedora


00:23:39CrazyLinuxNerdwell, when I started using it, it was fedora core :-P


00:23:43Nothing_Muchnice


00:23:52kaennovelty right?


00:24:00kaencertainly not a dungeon or competitive


00:24:09bobdaduckIts not really a novelty either


00:24:14bobdaduckand is played quite competitively


00:24:37kaenwell, there you go :)


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00:25:35Nothing_Muchoh I got the error fixed


00:25:37bobdaduckPropose three new tags:  Art, experimental, and "insane"


00:25:50SkybaxTa-da! http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/9


00:26:12Nothing_Muchteam nexus?


00:26:15Nothing_Mucho.o


00:26:20bobdaduckI feel like making the level walls red so that you get more hits is cheating...


00:26:38SkybaxI made my walls red because I prefer the color red over blue


00:26:54SkybaxI agree with your proposal of more tags


00:27:05Nothing_Muchthat nexus shouldn't be an out of place rectangle lol


00:27:14fordcarsbob, RTS is engineer mahem


00:27:18SkybaxWant me to make it asteroid shaped?


00:27:33bobdaduckexactly ford


00:27:35Nothing_Muchthat and maybe add a couple more nexus zones


00:27:48bobdaduckthe entire level was literally built to abuse the engineer mechanic


00:27:53bobdaduckAnd what do you call that?  xD


00:28:01fordcarsxD


00:29:48SkybaxWhich level?


00:29:49fordcarsRTS :)


00:29:49SkybaxLink?


00:29:49bobdaduckhttp://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/274


00:29:53SkybaxThx


00:30:09SkybaxWhoah nelly


00:30:25Nothing_MuchMy goodness


00:30:28Nothing_MuchThat's quite a big level


00:30:33SkybaxMinimum players = 40


00:30:38bobdaduckkaen, can I add the proposed new tags?


00:31:12Skybaxkaen! Can you make it so you can delete/edit your own comments and comments on your levels?


00:31:45Skybaxbob, you get a vote up for that epicly giant level simply because of how awesome it looks


00:31:58bobdaducklol


00:32:03bobdaduckit plays pretty well too


00:32:09bobdaduck...For what its built for, anyway.


00:32:09SkybaxWhat does the levelgen do?


00:32:38fordcarsAdds engineer items :)


00:32:49fordcarsWhen you go over zones


00:34:47SkybaxThat's neat


00:34:59SkybaxFixed it Nothing_Much http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/9 lol


00:35:33Skybaxbobdaduck, my asteroid level isn't nearly as "gross" as it was before, is it? x)


00:35:42bobdaduckThe gross part wasn't the looks


00:35:44bobdaduckits the gameplay


00:36:06SkybaxWhat's wrong with the gameplay?


00:36:47kaenbobdaduck: bitfighter.org/pleiades/tags


00:36:51bobdaducktakes the general problems with nexus (cloakers and luck) and excaberates them


00:36:56bobdaduckkaen does that mean you approve?


00:37:15kaenI didn't realize there were proposed new ones


00:37:35kaenbut go ahead, there are only three tags right now. just make sure they don't overlap


00:38:26kaenactually that's a terrible criteria


00:38:33Skybaxlol


00:38:33bobdaduckMake sure there's probable cause.


00:38:37kaenthat describes categories rather than tags


00:38:38bobdaduckaka "be responsible"


00:38:45kaenso... just make they aren't terrible


00:38:45kaenyes


00:39:01bobdaduckThere we go


00:39:13bobdaduckI think adding "art" and "experimental" covers all the bases I can think of


00:39:22kaenthose both sound good to me


00:39:33kaenI'm going to use one of them right now


00:39:44SkybaxI thought the whole fun part about Nexus was the cloakers and luck lol basically once you get a bunch of flags you hide from everyone until the Nexus opens..


00:40:33SkybaxWhaaat.. you can add tags..


00:40:54kaenadmin-only :P


00:41:07SkybaxI have a "New Tag" button..


00:41:12kaenwhoa


00:41:17Skybaxlol


00:41:19kaenwait are you a mod on the forums?


00:41:25SkybaxI don't believe so..


00:41:28kaenhuh


00:41:31kaengive it a try


00:41:53SkybaxIt also says I can view edit or delete any existing tags


00:42:04kaentry making one


00:42:05bobdaducklol


00:42:12bobdaduckour tag database is oooopeeennnn


00:42:20SkybaxTotally added a tag


00:42:22SkybaxIt's totally awesome


00:42:32kaenlol


00:42:41kaenhmm


00:42:54kaenI don't think this is a great idea


00:42:56bobdaduckrofl


00:43:37SkybaxBam. Check dat tag http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/9


00:44:20SkybaxI like this


00:44:21SkybaxThis is good


00:44:30bobdaducklol


00:44:44bobdaduckhe's about to lock it down xD


00:44:49SkybaxI can tell


00:45:31SkybaxIt was fun while it lasted though


00:45:48SkybaxHey bob, who's gonna be the Forum moderator when you leave?


00:46:07bobdaduckall the devs are forum moderators


00:46:11bobdaduckthey just don't have green names


00:46:16SkybaxAh


00:46:19bobdaduckbecause they are more dev/admin than they are mods.


00:46:52SkybaxWell yeah. So although they have forum mod privs, that's not what they primarily do. You're THE mod lol


00:47:12bobdaduckMaybe _k will come back.


00:47:13sam686im kindof a lazy admin...


00:48:27SkybaxI wanna be a mod


00:48:45sam686Some random link: http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/users/view/12     as if [bot] can't make a level...


00:49:00SkybaxHeh


00:49:07koda Quit (Quit: koda)


00:50:27bobdaducklol


00:51:23kaenSkybax: can you try now?


00:52:27SkybaxJust added another one lol


00:52:43bobdaduckcontest winner should probably not be a tag...


00:52:56SkybaxYeahhh you're probably right


00:53:05SkybaxI deleted it


00:54:28SkybaxApparently I can also add tags to any level


00:54:37SkybaxThat's probably not a good thing


00:54:43SkybaxIf anyone can do that


00:55:30SkybaxHmmm


00:55:37SkybaxNo that doesn't seem to work


00:55:39SkybaxThat's good


00:56:26SkybaxI wish I knew the password to the duckpond..


00:57:29bobdaduckhey kaen


00:57:34kaenhi


00:57:38bobdaduckI'm getting a levelgen error


00:57:49kaenfire away


00:57:53bobdaduckCan not modify string.split. Protected by the sandbox


00:58:18kaenI didn't even know there was a string.split


00:58:20bobdaduckThis is code that either you or raptor wrote


00:58:20fordcarsstring.gmatch?


00:58:23bobdaduckfunction string:split(separator)


00:58:23bobdaducklocal separator, fields = separator or " ", {}


00:58:23bobdaducklocal pattern = string.format("([^%s]+)", separator)


00:58:23bobdaduckself:gsub(pattern, function(c) fields[#fields+1] = c end)


00:58:23bobdaduckreturn fields


00:58:24bobdaduckend


00:58:42kaeninteresting


00:58:47fordcarsLol are you trying to split a string by lines? I just did that here


00:58:55kaenjust do: function split( -- blah blah


00:59:24kaenand call it as split(s, str)


00:59:29kaener


00:59:34kaensplit(str, sep)


00:59:35bobdaducksame error


01:00:00kaen shrugs


01:00:08kaensame line? that doesn't make any sense


01:00:13bobdaducksec


01:00:20bobdaduckgotta modify how other functions call it


01:00:25kaenyes


01:01:58bobdaduckthat seems to have fixed it


01:02:18bobdaduckno wait


01:02:24bobdaducknow it can't index "self"


01:02:31kaenoh yeah


01:02:47kaenfunction split(self, separator)


01:03:22bobdaduckstill can't index self


01:04:55bobdaduckoh cool


01:05:08bobdaducknow its "invalid option '       ' to 'format'"


01:05:51bobdaduckI've never even seen that error before


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01:36:51SkybaxHey kaen, I've got some map suggestions for the 2v2 server


01:40:03raptor has joined


01:40:04ChanServ sets mode +o


01:40:06raptorCRY HAVOC


01:40:12Skybax?


01:42:06raptorit's christmas!  bobdaduck released levels!


01:42:10bobdaducklol


01:42:16Skybaxlol


01:42:32raptorand what is this about access restrictions?


01:44:40Nothing_Much Quit (Quit: Konversation terminated!)


01:51:07SkybaxHey raptor, are we gonna do a BBBxi.5? lol


01:53:47raptoroh yeah...  to play those 6 maps?


01:58:55bobdaduck Quit (Remote host closed the connection)


02:11:05kaenback


02:11:12kaenSkybax: fire away


02:11:12raptorhi


02:11:14kaenhi


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02:13:02raptorare access restrictions difficult to set up in cakephp?


02:23:36kaenpretty easy. I've already done them a bit for admin-only level editing


02:23:46kaenediting someone else's levels, I mean


02:24:13kaenI tried making /tags admin-only but it doesn't seem to have taken effect


02:24:34kaenso I guess that means it's not so easy after all


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02:45:19Skybax_raptor: Yes, those six maps lol although most of them were Quartz' maps


02:46:48Skybax_kaen: http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/177


02:46:48Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/118


02:46:48Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/53


02:46:48Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/14


02:46:48Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/17


02:46:48Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/95


02:46:51Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/21


02:46:53Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/103


02:46:55Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/218


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02:46:57Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/200


02:46:59Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/94


02:47:02Skybax_http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/144


02:47:08Skybax_ is now known as Skybax


02:47:19kaengoodness


02:49:50SkybaxI went through all ten pages of Pleiades


02:50:18raptorwhat on earth..


02:50:24raptorSkybax: what are you doing?


02:50:48SkybaxGiving kaen map suggestions for his server.. lol it only has two maps on it


02:55:08SkybaxThese are all smallish two-team maps


02:55:23SkybaxPerfect for 2v2


02:56:23kaenI've narrowed that down to these five: http://pastie.org/9002356


02:56:45kaenI'm actually not that concerned with have a lot of maps.


02:56:50kaenhaving*


02:57:43kaenI'm more concerned about having a group of consistently high quality maps. but there does need to be more than two....


02:58:20raptori'm not sure about LED


02:58:31raptori like that map a lot, but it's a 4-flag retrieve


02:58:54raptorwhich are very, very difficult to accomplish


02:58:54SkybaxYes, quality over quantity is important, especially with a tournament server


02:59:59kaenI'm unsure about "who dat"


03:00:05kaenI think LED would be intense


03:00:10kaenalthough certainly tie prone


03:00:23raptori should get ahold of phantomime...  there were some really good 1v1 maps there


03:00:31raptoron that server 'Ghost'


03:00:44kaenmost definitely


03:00:50kaenphant is on another level


03:01:01raptoroh wait, that server is still running...


03:01:06Skybaxlol


03:01:13raptor88


03:01:35SkybaxLED would really bring out the most competition, I think, and Who Dat is good cause I don't think you have any other 2 team Bitmatches


03:02:15Skybaxlol Wat said he liked LED cause "it has diodes"


03:02:42fordcarsWow


03:02:45fordcarsSuch DIode


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03:03:58raptorthat was my first impression of LED, too...


03:04:10raptorbut i still think 4-flag retrieve is too hard


03:04:39raptorespecially for the short times that kaen has been considering for his server


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03:05:37kaenI'll give it a try and see if people complain


03:07:39Nothing_Much Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)


03:08:29SkybaxWhat's funny is I have no idea what a diode is or what it looks like


03:08:36raptorwhat?


03:08:48raptoryou mean you didn't draw that map with diodes in mind?


03:08:52SkybaxNope xD


03:08:55raptorwhat


03:08:59SkybaxYeah


03:09:03raptorhow did you come up with that design, then?


03:09:08SkybaxI just did


03:09:10SkybaxI just made it


03:09:15SkybaxI don't even know why I called it LED


03:09:18raptorwhat


03:09:22raptoryou're kidding


03:09:28SkybaxNot in the slightest


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03:10:27YoshiSmb_mlol


03:10:37SkybaxIt just happened


03:10:39raptora diode is a an electric component that only allows electricity to flow in one direction


03:10:46SkybaxOkay


03:10:59raptorthat's a simple definition


03:11:09SkybaxAnd how does LED have diodes?


03:11:12raptorbut LED means:  Light Emitting Diode


03:11:39Skybaxlol


03:11:50SkybaxYeah I didn't even know that


03:12:06SkybaxAll I knew was LED was a type of light


03:12:20Nothing_Muchlol


03:13:07SkybaxSo how does the level have diodes xD


03:13:22raptorand your level is built with diode-like behavior:  allowing movement along only one path for a specific team


03:13:51raptora diode allows electricity of only one charge (+ or -) to flow along a specific path


03:13:56SkybaxAhkay


03:13:57Skybaxlol


03:14:16raptorso like, we thought you had electrical engineering knowledge...


03:14:49raptorand to find out that you don't... make this whole situation feel...  serendipitous?


03:16:19SkybaxYeah that's really weird that I called it LED and I didn't even know any of that


03:16:57raptorso anyways, i still like the level..  and maybe more now that i know it comes from the twilight zone


03:17:06raptor:)


03:17:25SkybaxThat's how I make all my maps though... I seriously just type something random in the level thing and then start adding walls


03:17:36SkybaxI don't even change the level params until after the level is almost done


03:17:58Skybaxlol thanks


03:18:14raptoranyways...  now i have to fix the bug with red walls


03:18:22SkybaxThat's no bug!


03:18:46raptordid you play the BBB with red walls?


03:18:55SkybaxYes


03:18:59raptorwow


03:19:06SkybaxWhy wow?


03:19:22raptorit's just really different


03:19:28raptori suppose you found a good red color, though


03:19:29SkybaxYes, but I like it


03:19:32SkybaxI did!


03:19:44SkybaxI used the same algorithm as the normal blue walls use


03:19:50SkybaxJust in a different spectrum


03:20:28SkybaxOne could do the same with green


03:20:32SkybaxEasily


03:21:07raptorbut, i still think we need a consistent look-and-feel for the level database


03:21:35SkybaxI think it would be awesome if everyone had a different color wall and the level database was rainbow colored


03:22:13raptorkaen, if you're still around, i did this to luaIsPoint() to see if it would perform better (since it has one less branch):  http://pastie.org/8999377


03:22:25raptordo you think that would work?


03:22:33SkybaxBtw did you see my update to the AsteroidBelt level? I incorporated tazinator's polywalls into it


03:22:48raptoryeah!...  it looks much better in my opinion


03:22:56SkybaxThanks, I think so too


03:23:01SkybaxI think it plays better as well


03:23:47raptorand the ships can still make it between all the areas they need to?


03:24:03SkybaxYep! I checked. I even added an extra pathway


03:24:17SkybaxCause nobody likes dead-ends


03:26:21Skybaxkaen, do you know why my latest updated level didn't show up at the top of the list? Normally the database likes to say my level is updated even when I just add a tag, but now I actually changed something in the level and it didn't put it at the top of the list. Did you modify that?


03:28:38SkybaxWhoa. And then I just updated a level that was already on the list, and it removed it.


03:28:41SkybaxThat's naughty


03:28:54Skybaxkaen, did you break something when you were trying to change the permissions? lol


03:31:21raptoractually that code of mine is broken


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03:58:10Tazinatorskybax destroyed me in 1v1 :D


03:58:23SkybaxYes, I have that effect on people x)


04:01:16SkybaxSo what's up with Pleiades working backwards?


04:06:17Skybaxkaen, how do you kick someone from your team?


04:09:18Skybaxkaen it broke ._.


04:12:24kaenyou can't kick people yet


04:12:28kaenthey have to .leave


04:12:43kaenyou need to kick someone?


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04:30:31fordcarsSKybax, is it test2?


04:30:36fordcarsSkybax:


04:30:56SkybaxIt was lol but I figured out how to get rid of him


04:31:05fordcarsOhh mysterious


04:31:16fordcarsOh you logged in as him lol


04:31:19SkybaxJes


04:31:25fordcars^.^


04:31:30Skybaxkaen, was it on purpose that you made it not work unless everyone from the team was there?


04:31:46Tazinatorgoin to the bathroom


04:31:49Tazinatorsky


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04:31:55SkybaxOright


04:32:00fordcars:)


04:32:08SkybaxWELL FINE THEN


04:32:56TazinatorHA I WIN


04:33:04Tazinatorbut we never readied anyway


04:33:18Tazinatorkaen im in 2nd


04:33:21Tazinatorwith 5 losses


04:33:28Tazinatorcan you explain this to me


04:33:35fordcarsNight!


04:33:42Skybaxlol


04:33:49Tazinatoralso making a HTF map with a safe zone for enemy teams in your base


04:34:07SkybaxHey Ford, did you leave yet or are you still here?


04:34:12fordcarsStill here :O


04:34:17fordcarsWas going to leave, wassup?


04:34:39SkybaxWas wondering how your zombie levelgen was coming, and also if you fixed Skybot so he doesn't crash xD


04:35:43fordcarsLol, yeah I did quite a few things in the levelgen, and Skybot, well I have no idea why it crashes! I think all I can do is make it not crash, but not actually repairing the problem since I think it's on Bitfighter's side (maybe)


04:36:16fordcarsIt sometimes fails getting other bot's positions (Thus, only crashing when there are bots)


04:36:23SkybaxHuh


04:36:29SkybaxSo do other bots crash too, then?


04:36:41fordcarsI don't know :O


04:36:48fordcarsI'll check it out tomorrow


04:36:57SkybaxCause Skybot crashed on my end when it was just him, me, and Taz


04:37:03fordcarsReally?


04:37:05SkybaxOnly one Skybot


04:37:07fordcarsOkkkk


04:37:27fordcarsUhm, I don't know then, the crash is only in one simple line


04:37:31SkybaxYeah, after zapping Taz like twice he just left. I felt abandoned.


04:37:31Tazinatorhow do i make an invincible forcefield?


04:37:37fordcarsHah


04:37:52SkybaxPut it in the wall so nobody can shoot it


04:37:56Tazinatorim making a HTF map more like real life


04:37:59SkybaxAnd give it a 1-second regen


04:38:06fordcarsTaz, if you put 2 over each other, you can only destroy it with burst


04:38:06SkybaxSo the team can't satotauge it


04:38:10fordcarsOr that ^^


04:38:18Tazinatorits suppose to be at opposite ends with blue tema and red team


04:38:22Tazinatorand you can steal the flag


04:38:27Tazinatorand hide it in the forcefield


04:38:35Tazinatorget it?


04:38:45SkybaxThat sounds naughty


04:38:49Tazinatorvery.


04:38:51fordcarsIndeed


04:38:57fordcarsAlrighty, night!


04:39:00SkybaxNight!


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04:39:06TazinatorNIGHT


04:39:11SkybaxToo late lol


04:39:19Tazinator6:40 pm


04:39:23Skybaxraptor, do you know why Pleiades is borked?


04:39:31raptorclear cache!


04:41:05raptorwhat is wrong with pleiades?


04:41:43SkybaxIt's listing things incorrectly. I updated a level and it took it off the list instead of bring it to the top


04:41:50raptorha


04:41:52raptorwhich level?


04:42:08SkybaxTutorial


04:42:18SkybaxAnd also Flip The Curves


04:42:41raptorthat soudns like a legit bug


04:42:52raptorsomewhat benign, but legit


04:43:03SkybaxNormally it brings the level to the top of "Recently Updated" whenver I do anything to it, even add a tag, but I actually edited part of the level and it removed it


04:43:30SkybaxTry updating a level, it won't do anything


04:43:53raptoryou can add the issue here: https://github.com/kaen/pleiades/issues


04:44:08raptori need to sleep now


04:44:12raptorgood night!


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04:45:24SkybaxI swear, someone is making accounts everywhere with my username specifically so that I CAN'T MAKE ONE


04:45:39SkybaxI've seen like a billion Skybax's everywhere with no activity at all


04:45:43SkybaxJust a placeholder


04:45:44SkybaxLook https://github.com/skybax


04:45:54SkybaxNOW I CAN'T MAKE AN ACCOUNT WITH MY USERNAME


04:51:06Tazinatorlevel is done


04:51:18Nothing_MuchSkybax: might you have a stalker on your hands? o.O


04:51:33SkybaxI think it's someone just being annoying


04:52:01SkybaxThere's a skybax on InstaGram too, with no posts, no followers, and following nobody


04:52:06SkybaxNo information, no picture, nothing


04:52:12SkybaxJust sitting there taking my username


04:52:17Tazinatorits not shwing up on recently updated


04:52:24SkybaxWhat isn't?


04:52:38Tazinatorthe level i just uplodaed


04:52:41Skybaxhttps://github.com/kaen/pleiades/issues/38


04:52:46Tazinatorhttp://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/277


04:52:57Tazinatoreach team has two goals


04:52:59SkybaxIt's a bug


04:53:23Tazinatorso the idea is one player gaurds the goals, the other steals flags and hides them inside the forcefield


04:53:33Tazinatork


04:54:47Tazinatorplay on sam test?


04:55:19SkybaxTazinator, those forcefields are far from invincible


04:56:14Tazinator:/


04:56:28Tazinatorhow should i change it?


04:56:29SkybaxDid you not understand how I described it?


04:57:24Tazinatori did


04:57:28Tazinatormake them invincible?


04:57:35SkybaxThe forcefields in this level are invincible unless you're behind them http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/22


04:57:39SkybaxSee how it's done?


04:57:58SkybaxIf there was no way to get behind them, they would be completely invulnerable


04:58:10Tazinatorooh i had a better idea now


04:58:18Tazinatorwait i will update in a minute


04:59:10Tazinatorgrr everytime i change the level the forcefield moveds


05:00:19Tazinatorhttp://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/277


05:00:19Tazinatorok


05:00:39SkybaxUhhh


05:00:44SkybaxThat's just more forcefields lol


05:00:49TazinatorYes!


05:01:05SkybaxDo you want it like that or do you want them to be invincible?


05:01:12Tazinatorhmm not totally invincible


05:01:24Tazinatorbut a big hasle


05:01:32Tazinatorbut not too big


05:01:32SkybaxLike I thought you wanted a place that only a certain team could go


05:01:37Tazinatoryeha i did


05:01:46Tazinatorit's extremely biased towards the enemy team


05:01:48Tazinatoris the idea


05:01:50SkybaxUh huh


05:01:58SkybaxBut not a sure-fire method


05:02:14Tazinatorif i do surefire the bots break up


05:02:42Tazinatormaybe i should do both


05:02:47Tazinatorsee which is better


05:03:13SkybaxWhat do you mean the bots break up?


05:03:29Tazinatorif it was invincible


05:03:44Tazinatorthe bots would just shoot the forcefield forever trying to get any flag you put behind them


05:03:50Tazinatorbecause it's close to the goal zones


05:05:17SkybaxWell yeah, bots don't understand the concept of impenatrable lol


05:05:23SkybaxBut they would hunt you if you left


05:06:25Tazinatorooh the bot is broken anyway


05:06:39TazinatorI need to test this with players


05:06:42Tazinatorbots are too dumb


05:10:00SkybaxThis is what I meant http://pastie.org/9002542


05:11:47Tazinatorohhhh


05:14:33SkybaxYeah


05:22:38Tazinatori like it except for the clear abusing power


05:24:05SkybaxWell it's an interesting concept. If you made the safe zone farther away from the goal zone then it would be a risk, should I score or go hide the flag?


05:24:56Nothing_MuchSkybax: I'm curious, have you worked with suphp before?


05:25:05SkybaxWhat is that


05:25:17Nothing_MuchBasically the configuration for php for Apache


05:25:22Nothing_Muchan Apache server


05:25:27SkybaxI haven't used Apache


05:25:37Nothing_MuchOh, nvm then


05:25:59Skybaxphp sounds like web design, though


05:27:18Nothing_MuchProbably


05:37:46TazinatorI somehow made a soccer map from this


05:38:10Tazinatorhttp://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/278


05:38:39Tazinatorstill not sure what to do with the forcefields


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15:26:57raptorgood morning!


15:35:28YoshiSmb_mGood Morning Raptor


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18:17:36thread_quick, I need a good idea, a bad idea, and some way to incorporate the two


18:20:05thread_preferrably involving a fish and a broken piano


18:20:43raptordancing fish on the piano hammers!


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21:43:11raptor87%


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21:45:15raptorthat's a lot of percent


21:45:32raptorI agree, Vector is more modern than **


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22:29:33amgine123https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAISUDbjXj0


22:29:46amgine123its a cool video related to Bitfighter


22:31:20Nothing_Muchamgine123: teehee


22:44:14amgine123hey raptor is there a way toi make it so lowest score in a gmaetype wins ?


22:49:18raptornot in Lua


22:49:46amgine123im in c++ here


22:49:51amgine123im trying to make a gametype moe


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23:02:13amgine123http://nolife-radio.com/


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