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IRC Log for 2014-04-19

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00:00:38fordcars has joined


00:05:09fordcarsI think I'll try to work on s_bot


00:05:15amgine123hey theres a bug in BF if a test item pushes a soccer bal into a goal no points are scored


00:05:30raptorhi fordcars


00:05:36fordcarsHi


00:05:41amgine123hi carford


00:05:44raptorwhen you say 'work on s_bot', what did you have in mind?


00:05:52raptor(because I have great plans...)


00:06:09fordcarsTry to turn it from "stupid_bot" to "smart_bot"


00:06:14raptorhaha


00:06:24fordcarsWell, only the movement part


00:06:58fordcarsAre you going to humanize it?


00:07:19raptormy plans were to add personalities


00:07:25fordcarsAhh sweet


00:07:49raptorbut i have to design it first - we'll want to choose a number of traits


00:07:57fordcarsSure, I was just trying to figure out why it's so buggy sometimes, when it moves


00:08:01raptorlike defense/offense


00:08:05raptoroh yeah - bug fixes are good


00:08:19amgine123raptor i noticed somthing


00:08:38fordcarsraptor, looks good :)


00:08:45amgine123zone creation is "efficent" often it creates more zones then the minimal reducing this might make bots smarter


00:08:50amgine123isnt


00:09:10raptorzone creation is super efficient


00:09:23amgine123one thing that s_bot deffinetly needs fixed is the fact it doesnt return flags in NEXUS


00:09:31fordcarsraptor, a level without walls fails zone creation and crashes bots btw


00:09:43amgine123known issue


00:09:45raptorah...  now that...  hmm...


00:09:49fordcarsamgine, I thought I fixed that in 018?


00:09:55raptorbots need love


00:09:59fordcarsYes


00:10:02amgine123no they still dont return flags in Nexus


00:10:08fordcarsHeh


00:10:16raptoryeah, they return flags after they get 3 or 4, i think


00:10:22fordcarsYeah


00:11:59amgine123not that ive ever seen


00:12:12raptori wonder if that somehow broke again


00:12:26amgine123one thing i woulkd like to se is S_bot attacks e person who is in te lead more often


00:12:46amgine123person in first gets targeted most then 2nd then 3rd.....


00:13:55amgine123it does return flags if its path crosses the nexus when its targeting somone but thats preety much it


00:14:15fordcarsI think the bots want to return the flag, but they also want to go and get another flag at the same time


00:14:26raptorthat must be it...


00:14:26fordcarsSo they just bug and do nothing


00:14:35raptori bet that's similar to the movement problem


00:14:39fordcarsYes


00:14:53raptorthey constantly change their minds


00:15:11fordcars"Hey, there's a flag, let's get it", "Man there is a flag that is closer now, lets get it", "Hey, there's a flag, let's get it", "Man there is a flag that is closer now, lets get it", "Hey, there's a flag, let's get it", "Man there is a flag that is closer now, lets get it", "Hey, there's a flag, let's get it", "Man there is a flag that is closer now, lets get it", "Hey, there's a flag, let's get it", "Man there is a flag that


00:15:21fordcars...


00:15:25amgine123^_^


00:15:39amgine123raptor can i ask somthing


00:15:45fordcarsMaybe we should have a timeout


00:16:24amgine123Remember that BF teeshirt design I made could i post it on the forums for ppl to buy or would that break the Licencse agrement


00:18:06Nothing_Muchquick question, was bitfighter affected by Heartbleed?


00:18:13fordcarsProbably not


00:18:29fordcarsWell, maybe, I don't know


00:18:50fordcarsBut Bitfighter is not the target I think


00:19:04Nothing_MuchIt could've been anything that uses OpenSSL


00:19:33fordcarsIt was a glitch n the encryption right?


00:20:04fordcars*in


00:20:50sam686Theres a tester that tests https for this https://filippo.io/Heartbleed/


00:20:52Nothing_MuchNot necessarily the encryption, but when a heartbeat happens, it leaks out information.


00:21:06Nothing_MuchThus making the bug called "heartbleed"


00:21:23amgine123sam would that be a in violation of hte copyright ?


00:21:58fordcarsAhhh okokok


00:23:10sam686it depends mostly not though, but reading junk memory (through modding/hacking ssl) could see hidden information since server didn't check out of bound memory stuff..


00:24:25fordcarsamgine, I don't think there is a license for the Bitfighter logo


00:24:50fordcarsPosting it on forums would make it public domain I guess


00:43:27kaenI don't think anyone with the power to enforce a trademark on bitfighter (wat) has any interest in doing so.


00:45:40amgine123ok


00:47:58Nothing_Muchdoes that mean t-shirts are available now? :O


00:48:14amgine123not yet im not sure what to put on the back


00:48:59fordcarsBitfighter™


00:52:39Nothing_Muchlol


00:52:41Nothing_Much:D


00:53:09fordcarsHehehe


00:53:21fordcarsI would love a Bitfighter t-shirt tho


00:53:32Nothing_MuchI'd totally buy one for 50$


00:53:37fordcarsMe too


00:53:42Nothing_MuchAlso an Ubuntu t-shirt


00:53:48fordcarsHaha


00:53:54fordcarsTotally


00:54:07Nothing_MuchSpeaking of, they just released 14.04 yesterday!


00:54:08amgine123Sorry windows > unbuntu


00:54:13raptorhi again


00:54:19amgine123pc raptor


00:54:34raptoryes, bitfighter was affected by heartbleed...   but don't worry!  we don't use encryption anyways!  :)


00:54:40fordcarsWhoa sweet!


00:54:43Nothing_Muchraptor: oh goodie


00:54:50Nothing_Muchamgine123: well that's a darn shame


00:55:22fordcarsI'll put Ubuntu on our old eMac very soon (Well, when my mother is ok with me formatting the hard drive ^.^)


00:55:43fordcarsHaha raptor


00:55:43Nothing_Muchfordcars: Hmm.. I'm not sure if Ubuntu actually supports PowerPC anymore..


00:55:49raptoramgine123: the font is 'checkbook' i think


00:55:49fordcarsOh right


00:55:51amgine123raptor do you see my pc messages ?


00:55:52fordcarsLol


00:56:00Nothing_MuchLemme look it up


00:56:05amgine123um yes but it nots hollow like te BF logo is


00:56:07fordcarsYeah, I guess it'll be Debian


00:56:18fordcarsI'll put Ubuntu on my Pentium 4 though


00:56:41amgine1230 1 10 11 100 101 110 111 1000 1001 1010 1011 1100 1101 1110 1111......


00:56:51fordcarsPowerPC was an officially supported architecture for Ubuntu between versions 4.10 and 6.10. From 7.04 onwards it is a community supported port.


00:57:03Nothing_Muchhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads


00:57:08amgine123um checxkbok text isnt hollow ?


00:57:52fordcarsWhoa, 14.04 is on PPC?


00:58:14fordcarsOh wait


00:58:31fordcarsOh yeah it is I think, nice


00:58:33fordcarsMac (PowerPC) and IBM-PPC (POWER5) desktop image


00:58:34raptordid someone say PPC?:  http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/12.3/iso/


00:58:48Nothing_MuchLubuntu actually


00:58:59Nothing_MuchApparently Ubuntu isn't *officially* supported by Canonical


00:58:59amgine123raptor have you seem armageddon ? bruce willas ?


00:59:08raptorand beta version of openSUSE 13.1 for ppc:  http://download.opensuse.org/ports/ppc/distribution/13.1/iso/


00:59:15fordcarsHaha, the openSUSEr wants to convince me to go to openSUSE


00:59:30raptoryes...  i'm a chameleon at heart


00:59:36raptoramgine123: yes, a long time ago


00:59:47Nothing_MuchTry it out, it's like Kubuntu, but better (I'm on stock Ubuntu though).


00:59:56fordcarsI'll take anything


01:00:49Nothing_MuchGo for OpenSUSE then, it's an RPM distro that does KDE fantastically


01:00:57raptorif take the green distro, i'd do the 12.3 iso


01:01:22raptorit's a bootable CD/DVD/USB whatever that'll download the packages from online during installation


01:01:30fordcarsAh sweet


01:01:43fordcarsBut it's not connected to the internet :O


01:01:54Nothing_MuchYou're gonna have to do that then fordcars


01:02:08fordcarsI have a USB WiFI receiver dongle though, but I don't know if it will work with the NetInstall


01:02:09Nothing_MuchUnless you have a spare USB/DVD to burn every app and desktop environment to it


01:02:19Nothing_MuchProbably not


01:02:29fordcarsHeh


01:02:46fordcarsOh wait


01:03:03fordcarsYeah I can make a wifi receiver with my old AirPort


01:03:07raptornetinstall will detect wireless...  but i'd always use a wire with a netinstall of any distro


01:03:13fordcarsWifi -> Ethernet


01:03:29fordcarsYeah, maybe I should just plug-it in


01:03:30Nothing_MuchWhat raptor


01:03:34Nothing_MuchYeah plug it in


01:03:34raptoryes


01:03:38Nothing_MuchOr experience nightmares for a month


01:03:42fordcarsHaha


01:03:48Nothing_MuchJust trying to get the wifi to work


01:04:00raptorit actually works will with openSUSE installer


01:04:13fordcarsI guess it would


01:04:21fordcarsIt works fine with wpa_supplicant


01:04:21raptor*works well


01:04:29raptorbut use a wire, please


01:04:36fordcarsBut, it'll be faster with ethernet


01:04:43raptorit's smart to avoid potential problems...


01:04:50fordcarsYeah I guess so


01:04:59fordcarsWe have an old router


01:07:41raptori was gifted a chromebook with a broken screen


01:08:06fordcarsWow


01:08:07raptorit'll cost 40-50 to fix it i think


01:08:15raptorbut i'm really cheap


01:08:27fordcarsDoes it have video output?


01:08:29raptorso i'm not sure it was a gift...


01:08:35fordcarsLol


01:08:38raptoroh hey!


01:08:41raptorit does!


01:08:45fordcarsNice :D


01:09:21raptori should flash a rogue ROM onto it and install openSUSE!


01:10:29fordcarsYes!


01:11:27Nothing_Muchchromebook with a celeron or ARM processor?


01:12:09raptornot sure - i bet celeron


01:12:17raptoracer c710


01:12:27raptor-2847


01:12:59raptorhere it is: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model-datasheet/NU.SH7AA.004


01:13:44Nothing_Muchyep, celeron


01:13:52Nothing_Muchso installing might not even require you to flash it


01:13:52amgine123https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BROWqjuTM0g


01:14:15amgine123http://www.customink.com/lab?cid=ngz0-0010-k9h8#loc-design-online


01:14:25amgine123te4ll me if this looks ok


01:14:48Nothing_Muchlooks awesome


01:14:51Nothing_Muchmake it glow in the dark!


01:14:52raptorwell...  i'm not sure if i'm willing to buy a new screen and put in the time to get it running yet - maybe when our other old clunky computers die


01:15:00Nothing_Muchvector graphics are pretty good with that stuff!


01:16:37fordcarsraptor, you can try your tv :D


01:16:48raptordon't have one...  :)


01:16:54fordcarsOh haha


01:17:25Nothing_Muchwhat types of packaging do chromebooks use?


01:17:28Nothing_Muchlike


01:17:36Nothing_Muchdpkg or rpm or apk's?


01:17:36raptorchromeOS?


01:17:39fordcarsWell, it does make a nice Frisbee I guess


01:17:39Nothing_Muchyeah


01:17:40raptorah


01:17:42raptorumm


01:17:43fordcarsWebApps


01:17:48raptorchrome apps


01:17:59Nothing_MuchI think ChromeOS also uses native apps or something


01:18:01Nothing_Muchyeah


01:18:03raptorthe whole thing is basically the chrome web browser with hardware drivers


01:18:15Nothing_Muchand ppapi flash... bleh


01:18:24raptoryep, all that good stuff


01:18:38raptorthey actually did quite an amazing job at getting to work seamlessly


01:18:39Nothing_Muchbut do chromebooks use GLES or GL?


01:18:49raptoryes they do


01:18:53Nothing_Muchboth?


01:19:10raptoroh, uhh...  not sure, but i know the hardware drivers have a full GL implementation


01:19:19raptorbut i don't know what the OS actually uses


01:19:26Nothing_Muchohh


01:19:35Nothing_Muchlemme do some research


01:19:36raptori'm too much of a power user to not install a different OS...


01:20:23Nothing_Muchcan it be downloaded?


01:20:30raptorchromeOS?


01:20:36Nothing_Muchand be put on virtualbox?


01:20:37Nothing_Muchyeah


01:20:55raptorhmm...  i think so - like the opensource part is repackaged to play with somewhere


01:23:17Nothing_MuchI'm gonna check it out on virtualbox


01:23:24Nothing_Muchgo 16GB RAM :D


01:24:04raptorhere is a prebuilt image based on openSUSE :)  http://getchrome.eu/


01:26:00Nothing_Muchlook at that!


01:42:59Nothing_Muchoh


01:43:04Nothing_Muchthat's just the Cinnamon menu :(


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01:49:43Nothing_Muchsheesh, I can't find a Chrome OS download anywhere!


01:51:08amgine123XDX


01:53:35amgine123 is now known as amginea


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02:00:57fordcarsNothing, wasn't ChromeOs open-source?


02:02:07fordcarsI guess you'll have to build for your VirtualBOx :X


02:02:08fordcarshttp://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/how-tos-and-troubleshooting/portage-build-faq


02:03:08fordcarsBut I am pretty sure there is another way


02:05:34Nothing_Muchfordcars: Holy crap is that based off.. Gentoo?


02:06:11fordcarsUh I dunno :O


02:06:25fordcarsIt's on the official Chromium Website


02:11:00Nothing_MuchYeah it looks like I have to actually BUILD the OS myself


02:11:06Nothing_Muchno way that's happening


02:11:40Nothing_MuchI have the resources and all, it's just that I lack patience :(


02:21:14fordcarsHaha


02:42:27kaenNothing_Much: fordcars: you can just download a vm image: http://chromeos.hexxeh.net/


02:42:42kaenmy girlfriend has a chromebook


02:42:53kaenit's like you replaced your desktop with google chrome


02:43:04fordcarsHaha


02:43:13fordcarsYeah, try that Nothing


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02:49:36Nothing_Muchkaen: That's from 2013 :(


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03:56:20raptorgo python!


03:58:27fordcarsHey raptor, what if I get an BfObject (ie: HealthItem), store, and then use it later. If the object is gone, does the stored item become nil?


03:59:35raptoryou mean if someone picks up the health item


03:59:38raptor?


03:59:44raptorso it it used up and disappears?


03:59:45sam686HealthItem is one of those items that will not delete by itself, it may become hidden for a few seconds..


04:00:07raptorhonestly, I don't quite remember what happens in Lua...


04:00:26raptori think it does clean itself up, but it may take a fraction of a second


04:00:27sam686deleted items becomes nil i believe..


04:00:47amginea0


04:01:36fordcarsYeah


04:01:47fordcarsOk thanks :)


04:26:49raptornight!


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05:34:10fordcarsNight!


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08:17:38LoneWolfyYess


08:17:48LoneWolfyI got an android phone


08:17:56LoneWolfyNow I can idle in the IRC


08:18:08LoneWolfyAlthough I have no data


08:18:13LoneWolfyOnly WiFo


08:18:30LoneWolfyWiFi*


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08:38:03Nothing_MuchHi LoneWolfy


08:38:27LoneWolfyHullo


08:38:36Nothing_MuchWhat's up


08:38:36Nothing_Much?


08:38:38LoneWolfyHah


08:38:50LoneWolfyNothing much


08:38:59LoneWolfy: P


08:39:27Nothing_MuchLol


08:39:29LoneWolfyListening to music at like 1 am


08:39:32Nothing_Much1am?


08:39:39Nothing_MuchOh it's 4:30 am here :D


08:39:46LoneWolfyIn San Diego


08:40:07LoneWolfyIce Cap Zone music is pretty chill


08:40:16Nothing_MuchWhich Ice Cap zone?


08:40:21Nothing_MuchThere's 2 that I know of. :P


08:41:02LoneWolfyAct 2


08:41:20LoneWolfyFrom Sonic 3


08:41:24Nothing_MuchAh


08:41:30Nothing_MuchThat version was meh


08:41:36Nothing_MuchI prefer the one from Sonic Adventure


08:41:59LoneWolfyThe intro part of it is pretty cool


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08:42:12Nothing_Muchhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZBZI0XB-T8


08:42:13LoneWolfyI keep rewinding for that part of it


08:42:15Nothing_MuchHi damndisconnect


08:42:19Nothing_MuchLol


08:43:00LoneWolfyAnd if I keep reconnecting it's because I'm on WiFi


08:43:08Nothing_MuchThat's no problem


08:43:14Nothing_MuchLoneWolfy: Who are ya btw?


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08:43:43LoneWolfyLine Wolf


08:43:53LoneWolfyLone*


08:43:58Nothing_MuchOn the forums too? o.o


08:44:02LoneWolfyYes


08:44:15Nothing_MuchAh


08:44:23Nothing_MuchSorry I don't frequent the forums as much as I should :(


08:44:45LoneWolfyIf autocorrect is going to keep screwing with me this much I'm gonna get mad so fast


08:45:11LoneWolfyLone is a word. Accept it, phone.


08:45:14damndisconnectsup guys


08:45:16Nothing_MuchHi damndisconnect


08:45:25Nothing_MuchYeah Lone is most certainly a word


08:45:31Nothing_MuchWhat type of Android phone is it though?


08:45:45LoneWolfyGalaxy A


08:45:47LoneWolfyA


08:46:01LoneWolfyS GOD DAMMIT


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08:46:30Nothing_Muchlol


08:46:33LoneWolfyYeah a Galaxy S. Just the original


08:46:38Nothing_MuchI'm waiting for an Ubuntu Phone :D


08:46:44LoneWolfyHeh


08:47:06LoneWolfyAndroid reminds me of Linux sometimea


08:47:32LoneWolfyOh and it didn't fix sometimea?


08:48:05Nothing_MuchAndroid is *technically* Linux


08:48:12Nothing_MuchUnfortunately it's extremely closed down


08:48:26Nothing_MuchAnd the mainstream media doesn't know it even IS Linux


08:48:38LoneWolfyOh


08:49:04Nothing_MuchBest to keep it that way somewhat


08:49:07LoneWolfyI thought it was in the covenants be open sources though? Isn't it owned by Google?


08:49:09Nothing_MuchMostly because Linux has a bad rep


08:49:20LoneWolfyLicense


08:49:30LoneWolfyCovenants?!?!


08:49:35LoneWolfyAre you seeioua


08:49:43Nothing_MuchIt is owned by Google, but by closed down, I mean mostly the apps that Google has on it


08:49:54Nothing_MuchNot to mention the fact that Google is a pretty scary company


08:49:55LoneWolfySerious*


08:50:11Nothing_MuchThey will sell you online, if you're silly enough to post your personal information online.


08:50:13LoneWolfyOk I'm going to bed before I smash this phone


08:50:16Nothing_MuchLol


08:50:19Nothing_MuchG'night dude


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21:46:30raptorgood day


21:46:42raptorwe just caught a stray dog


21:46:59raptorand handed it over to animal control


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22:10:06Watusimotohi


22:10:14raptorhi


22:10:17Watusimotosounds exciting


22:10:23raptorvery gentle dog


22:10:33Watusimotoin high school, we had a day where we shadowed one town official or another


22:10:36raptorlooked to be a lost pet - well trained, yet skinny


22:10:38WatusimotoI got the dog catcher


22:10:45raptoroooo


22:10:46WatusimotoI hope the dog was chipped


22:10:50raptorwas that fun?


22:11:02Watusimotohis truck smelled like dead critters


22:11:09raptorblech


22:11:15Watusimotothat's all I remember, to be honest


22:11:26Watusimotoso probably not


22:13:11raptori have to run


22:13:17raptorhave a good night!


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