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| 00:32:45 | kaen | raptor: any idea how I'd pull in a commit from the main "branch" ? |
| 00:33:03 | kaen | I need that commit where you initialized mStashFontId |
| 00:35:42 | kaen | merge tries to pull in all of the commits until the common ancestor |
| 00:37:17 | kaen | hg graft, thanks raptor! |
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| 01:41:46 | Nothing_Much | oh hey, players! |
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| 03:46:42 | raptor | hello |
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| 03:47:51 | raptor | you're welcome kaen :) |
| 03:53:13 | raptor | players! |
| 03:53:17 | raptor | and they're on bittown |
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| 16:01:25 | | BFLogBot Commit: 44efdeb3f7c8 | Author: kaen | Message: refactor debian/copyright |
| 16:01:27 | | BFLogBot Commit: 49b9d320a7c2 | Author: kaen | Message: use compat 9 for debian package. fixes CMake ignoring CPPFLAGS |
| 16:03:50 | kaen | never thought I would have to refactor a license file... |
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| 16:07:06 | raptor | good morning! |
| 16:08:21 | kaen | morning! |
| 16:08:31 | raptor | interesting license file work.. |
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| 16:22:25 | Nothing_Much | hey guys |
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| 16:24:48 | raptor | looks like a teach came into the room... |
| 16:24:51 | raptor | *teacher |
| 16:25:26 | Nothing_Much | a teacher? |
| 16:26:01 | raptor | kaen and I were just playing on a high school server |
| 16:26:26 | Nothing_Much | oh cool! |
| 16:26:42 | Nothing_Much | new school or familiar one? |
| 16:28:09 | raptor | it's been around for a little while |
| 16:28:18 | raptor | BDHS - some technical school |
| 16:28:25 | raptor | in canada (alberta?) |
| 16:28:28 | Nothing_Much | ohh, that's cool |
| 16:48:27 | raptor | more spelling errors? |
| 16:48:51 | raptor | can we see a full list of those from the debian lintian? |
| 16:59:32 | kaen | when I strings'd the binary, that wasn't in a human-readable string |
| 16:59:50 | kaen | I think that was introduced by fixing cmake to use the debian -fstack-protector flags |
| 16:59:56 | kaen | I think that's just a canary |
| 17:00:06 | kaen | which that flag adds |
| 17:01:55 | raptor | crazy |
| 17:02:14 | raptor | soo... does stack protection produce a workable binary? |
| 17:02:28 | raptor | i'm wondering if it'll break some inner magic of TNL |
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| 17:12:02 | kaen | works as far as I can tell |
| 17:12:38 | kaen | shouldn't break unless there's an intentional buffer overrun :P |
| 17:12:40 | raptor | ha: Severity: minor, Certainty: wild-guess |
| 17:12:53 | raptor | on that spelling lintian warning |
| 17:13:21 | kaen | an accurate description |
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| 18:16:37 | kaen | man these debian flags like doubled my compile time |
| 18:17:17 | raptor | which ones? |
| 18:17:42 | kaen | -g -O2 -fstack-protector --param=ssp-buffer-size=4 -Wformat -Werror=format-security -D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 |
| 18:18:47 | raptor | you added those specifically? |
| 18:18:53 | kaen | or maybe I've just hit the half-life of my patience :P |
| 18:19:04 | raptor | doesn't CMake add some of those already? |
| 18:19:08 | raptor | or are you overriding cmake? |
| 18:19:10 | kaen | no, debhelper puts those into cmake |
| 18:19:15 | raptor | ohhhh |
| 18:19:18 | raptor | interesting... |
| 18:19:18 | kaen | debhelper does that (after 9.0) |
| 18:19:39 | raptor | very interesting that -g is there with -O2 |
| 18:20:32 | kaen | I've seen that a lot, myself |
| 18:20:59 | kaen | optimizations don't really need to come at the cost of zero debug symbols |
| 18:21:20 | kaen | O2 will optimize a good chunk of them out, but the important ones will likely still be in place |
| 18:21:30 | raptor | huh... i did not know that |
| 18:22:00 | kaen | you get weird stack traces with stuff like 0xDEADBEEF <symbol optimized out> |
| 18:22:30 | kaen | oh, have you tested wat's backtrace on linux yet? |
| 18:22:46 | raptor | yeah - his stack trace code works |
| 18:22:51 | kaen | awesome! |
| 18:22:53 | raptor | but deadbeef |
| 18:23:00 | raptor | that's one of my favorites! |
| 18:23:05 | kaen | hehe |
| 18:23:11 | kaen | just the first one that came to mind :P |
| 18:23:36 | kaen | I remember reading Cult of the Dead Cow articles and they'd always use that address |
| 18:40:25 | Nothing_Much | hi everyone |
| 18:40:37 | raptor | hi |
| 18:40:47 | raptor | there are some interesting memory addresses here: http://www.rgagnon.com/varia/funny-1.html |
| 18:41:32 | Nothing_Much | what's going on? |
| 18:41:36 | Nothing_Much | or how is everyone? |
| 18:45:10 | raptor | doing good |
| 18:45:16 | raptor | not doing too much... |
| 18:45:25 | raptor | trying to support kaen in his debian efforts :) |
| 18:46:25 | Nothing_Much | words of.. everything? |
| 18:46:28 | Nothing_Much | go kaen! |
| 18:46:29 | Nothing_Much | woo!\ |
| 18:46:50 | kaen | we're really close now, boys |
| 18:47:33 | kaen | I'm splitting off bitfighter-data to kill the last persistent warning about large /usr/share |
| 18:47:41 | raptor | wait, what? |
| 18:47:43 | Nothing_Much | what's that mean? |
| 18:47:47 | raptor | you think that that is necessary? |
| 18:47:59 | raptor | looking at that warning - there are loads of projects with it |
| 18:48:11 | raptor | and bitfighter is small compared to something like supertuxkart |
| 18:48:31 | kaen | hmm, I didn't realize there were so many other projects with it |
| 18:48:36 | kaen | I was shooting for lintian-clean |
| 18:48:49 | kaen | anyway it's actually a trivial change |
| 18:48:53 | raptor | I just bring it up because of the complexity... |
| 18:49:01 | raptor | but maybe it's not so bad? |
| 18:49:08 | kaen | it's about five lines |
| 18:49:44 | raptor | there are things like 'network-manager' and 'nautilus' that have that warning |
| 18:50:02 | kaen | http://pastie.org/9182580 |
| 18:50:04 | raptor | and postgresql |
| 18:50:27 | raptor | ah, ok |
| 18:50:33 | raptor | with the relevant install file, too |
| 18:50:43 | kaen | see, just add a little file and an entry for it |
| 18:50:47 | kaen | cake |
| 18:51:02 | raptor | that's not so bad - but.. do we really need two packages? |
| 18:51:15 | kaen | I don't know, maybe not |
| 18:51:27 | kaen | in light of the evidence, *probably* not |
| 18:51:40 | raptor | samba is another... with 81% |
| 18:51:43 | kaen | I guess I got carried away :P |
| 18:51:51 | raptor | ha |
| 18:51:58 | raptor | even virtualbox triggered it with 10% |
| 18:53:20 | Nothing_Much | kaen: is it gonna be on jessie or wheezy? |
| 18:55:24 | kaen | it goes from sid -> testing |
| 18:55:27 | kaen | testing is jessie right? |
| 18:55:40 | raptor | i think jessie is the next distro |
| 18:55:44 | kaen | yeah, that one |
| 18:55:52 | kaen | we'll get pushed out with the next debian release |
| 18:56:06 | kaen | and the next ubuntu release (whatever version is in jessie in october) |
| 18:57:53 | Nothing_Much | sweet |
| 18:57:55 | Nothing_Much | oh |
| 18:57:56 | Nothing_Much | darn |
| 18:57:58 | Nothing_Much | so not 14.04? |
| 18:58:30 | raptor | i don't know much about the backport process |
| 18:58:32 | kaen | no, they don't draw in new packages until a release, I think |
| 18:58:54 | kaen | unless maybe someone backports it specifically? |
| 18:59:02 | Nothing_Much | oh nice |
| 18:59:02 | kaen | actually I have no idea what I'm talking about here |
| 18:59:08 | Nothing_Much | lol |
| 18:59:25 | Nothing_Much | don't worry about it, as long as it gets into the official repos for Debian and therefore Ubuntu :D |
| 18:59:40 | Nothing_Much | That means in the USC I can make a review of it! :D |
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| 19:07:42 | kaen | I opened the "intent to package" bug for bitfighter one year, one month, and four days ago |
| 19:07:44 | kaen | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=705303 |
| 19:07:52 | kaen | for version 018a |
| 19:08:48 | kaen | I sure like to take my time :P |
| 19:11:01 | Nothing_Much | kaen: no problem dude |
| 19:11:04 | Nothing_Much | :) |
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| 19:17:56 | kaen | 11:57 <kaen> Hi. I have about 3MB of platform-independent data. Is it a requirement that I split it out to a foo-data package? |
| 19:17:56 | kaen | 12:16 <Zhenech> kaen, there is no requirement, but it'd be nice |
| 19:18:01 | kaen | huh, well there you go. |
| 19:18:19 | raptor | haha |
| 19:18:29 | raptor | not very well argued... |
| 19:19:36 | kaen | it was more curiosity at that point |
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| 19:58:11 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4b312a6501fc | Author: kaen | Message: require debhelper 9 |
| 19:58:13 | | BFLogBot Commit: 62a313e2ae51 | Author: kaen | Message: split out bitfighter-data package |
| 20:02:50 | | BFLogBot Commit: 595651fde579 | Author: kaen | Message: add noisy lintian check to debian script |
| 20:03:28 | raptor | that last commit sparks my curiosity |
| 20:03:36 | raptor | is that an additional lint check? |
| 20:03:58 | kaen | yes, it's the tool that creates the warnings on mentors.debian.net |
| 20:04:16 | kaen | and I got tired of remembering the weird flags to get full output :P |
| 20:04:40 | kaen | I run that script about once every three minutes |
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| 20:39:09 | kaen | ok, we need to figure out this fonts thing: http://picpaste.com/screenshot_0-YdJ4SoyR.png |
| 20:40:14 | Nothing_Much | kaen: Do you have something that needs to be tested? :D |
| 20:41:05 | kaen | not yet, still need to wrangle these fonts |
| 20:41:20 | raptor | kaen: is that using a system font? |
| 20:41:44 | kaen | yes, I think debian's play set is slightly different from ours |
| 20:41:51 | kaen | "play" I mean |
| 20:42:14 | raptor | huh |
| 20:42:27 | raptor | is the Play font the only one that is larger like that? |
| 20:42:34 | raptor | is the chat droid mono font larger, too? |
| 20:42:45 | kaen | not that I can tell |
| 20:43:06 | raptor | are you packaging any other font with bitfighter? |
| 20:43:24 | raptor | I wonder why it is different... |
| 20:43:45 | raptor | maybe watusimoto resized it? |
| 20:43:59 | kaen | or maybe debian resized it |
| 20:44:15 | kaen | I'm trying not to package any fonts |
| 20:44:19 | raptor | i wasn't expecting an issue like this... |
| 20:44:27 | kaen | me either... this is really weird |
| 20:51:57 | kaen | so... I'm thinking we should pull the debian one and resize at the call sites |
| 20:52:28 | kaen | I imagine the debian one is more canonical than ours, if they differ |
| 20:53:04 | kaen | did we get that one from the actual google fonts site? |
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| 21:32:27 | raptor | i'm not sure - we should ask watusimoto |
| 21:39:29 | kaen | ok |
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| 22:23:37 | amgine123 | this game is so fun ^_^ http://www.transformice.com/?id=1193054 |
| 22:37:21 | Nothing_Much | amgine123: yeah but it's flash player :( |
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| 22:43:40 | Nothing_Much | Out of every song I listen to in Bitfighter |
| 22:44:00 | Nothing_Much | I absolutely adore 2 to 3 of them |
| 22:45:02 | amgine123 | which ones ? |
| 22:46:22 | Nothing_Much | hold up |
| 22:46:33 | Nothing_Much | avktb.av |
| 22:46:35 | Nothing_Much | and |
| 22:46:50 | Nothing_Much | tsec-hot.xm |
| 22:47:12 | Nothing_Much | avktb.xm |
| 22:47:13 | Nothing_Much | my bad |
| 22:47:19 | Nothing_Much | Look in the music section |
| 22:49:15 | amgine123 | i still think my song makjes a better menu music but wattsimo and raptor are agisnt it |
| 22:49:22 | Nothing_Much | which music? |
| 22:49:41 | Nothing_Much | dreams3 is a decent track too |
| 22:49:48 | Nothing_Much | but it doesn't fit bitfighter too much |
| 22:49:54 | Nothing_Much | amgine123: link me all the songs you have |
| 22:50:30 | Nothing_Much | imo the best song is so close to tsec-hot.xm and av_ktb.xm |
| 22:50:43 | Nothing_Much | oh hell, it's av_ktb.xm |
| 22:52:03 | amgine123 | ah what was that modarchive file its been a whil;e |
| 22:54:01 | amgine123 | I cant remeber what it was :9 |
| 22:54:07 | amgine123 | i have said it here before |
| 22:55:31 | Nothing_Much | underwater? |
| 23:00:42 | amgine123 | I think this makes a better theme for bitfighters main menu but Raptor and wattismo disagree http://modarchive.org/index.php?request=view_by_moduleid&query=104355 |
| 23:01:57 | amgine123 | bet your probably disagree to everyone here is always on te oppisite side of my ideas |
| 23:04:52 | amgine123 | do you disagree ? |
| 23:05:10 | Nothing_Much | imo if the music was lowered a little bit, it could serve as the beginning of the menu screen, when the bitfighter logo shows up, then goes to loop the current one |
| 23:07:47 | amgine123 | io posted it above |
| 23:30:30 | Nothing_Much | amgine123: saw |
| 23:30:33 | Nothing_Much | it's good |
| 23:30:48 | amgine123 | they think that is worse then the current one |
| 23:31:21 | Nothing_Much | maybe because it doesn't necessarily fit bitfighter as a combat game, since it's not *technically* in space |
| 23:35:46 | Nothing_Much | honestly though |
| 23:35:51 | Nothing_Much | for a game as small as bitfighter |
| 23:36:47 | Nothing_Much | I don't think it can get any better than what we- erm.. the devs have currently in the main menu |
| 23:37:19 | amgine123 | well BF is fast paced high intenity action the the current menu is rather drab |
| 23:40:19 | Nothing_Much | I think it's more atmospheric over drab |
| 23:43:43 | Nothing_Much | Like |
| 23:44:03 | amgine123 | not really |
| 23:44:11 | Nothing_Much | "You're a spaceship, you're going to blast others, get ready!" |
| 23:44:22 | amgine123 | BF is supsoed to be fast past and actiony my song does that better i think |
| 23:44:33 | amgine123 | your comment supports mine song theme better then |
