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| 00:48:24 | raptor | good day! |
| 00:49:26 | raptor | man our backup bitfighter.org is a horrible server... |
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| 01:10:38 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 01:10:50 | raptor | hi |
| 01:11:01 | raptor | I almost think we should start over... |
| 01:11:07 | Watusimoto | it doesn't matter if the server is terrible... it is good enough for a backup machine, and cheap enough that I won't think twice about paying for it! |
| 01:11:17 | Watusimoto | start over how? |
| 01:11:22 | raptor | ok |
| 01:11:32 | raptor | not use drupal |
| 01:11:54 | raptor | just static |
| 01:11:54 | Watusimoto | have you seen my work? |
| 01:11:54 | raptor | no |
| 01:11:56 | Watusimoto | hold on, I'll find the url |
| 01:12:06 | Watusimoto | I emailed it to you a few hours ago |
| 01:12:15 | raptor | oh... oh at /recover ? |
| 01:12:28 | Watusimoto | http://bitfighter.org/recover/ |
| 01:13:00 | raptor | ah ha |
| 01:13:13 | raptor | ohh... are you changing the links to not use drupal? |
| 01:13:34 | raptor | honestly, the biggest loss I see is the level database |
| 01:13:53 | Watusimoto | I'm more worried about the wiki |
| 01:14:04 | Watusimoto | the levels exist out there somewhere |
| 01:14:06 | raptor | i have a dump of all databases from 23 Nov |
| 01:15:32 | Watusimoto | wiki probably hasn't changed too much since then |
| 01:15:32 | Watusimoto | maybe fordcars's raspberry pi article |
| 01:15:32 | Watusimoto | and probably some instructions for gci kids |
| 01:15:32 | raptor | yeah, so that's why i say the level database... |
| 01:15:32 | raptor | oh yeah... that gci page |
| 01:15:32 | raptor | hmm... i guess we'll ahve to see |
| 01:15:32 | raptor | do you remember what version of mediawiki? |
| 01:15:32 | Watusimoto | I'm not worrked about the levels so much, I think we'll get them back |
| 01:15:32 | Watusimoto | no idea about the version |
| 01:15:32 | Watusimoto | some old ancient version |
| 01:15:47 | Watusimoto | maybe it's in the db dump somewhere? |
| 01:16:42 | Watusimoto | probably not |
| 01:16:42 | raptor | oh... we should check google cache |
| 01:16:42 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 01:16:42 | Watusimoto | so the html is all static on that recover page |
| 01:16:42 | Watusimoto | pulled from wayback |
| 01:16:42 | Watusimoto | we can clean it up and go from there |
| 01:16:42 | raptor | excellent |
| 01:16:42 | Watusimoto | forget drupal |
| 01:17:53 | raptor | agreed |
| 01:17:53 | raptor | we could attempt to use totally new styles |
| 01:17:53 | Watusimoto | so before we go too much further on rebuilding the site, we need to figure out what chunks should be included |
| 01:17:53 | Watusimoto | so we don't keep editing the same headers over and over |
| 01:17:59 | Watusimoto | there are only two pages so far -- home page and screenshots |
| 01:18:09 | raptor | i figured we should at least guarantee the same file is the one edited for all portions |
| 01:18:29 | raptor | before i rmember having to edit a different one for wiki, and a different one for forums |
| 01:19:18 | Watusimoto | I don't understand that first sentence |
| 01:19:18 | raptor | so 3 places |
| 01:19:18 | Watusimoto | oh |
| 01:19:18 | Watusimoto | same stylesheet |
| 01:19:18 | raptor | i want it just one place |
| 01:19:18 | Watusimoto | not sure if we can do that, but maybe |
| 01:19:18 | Watusimoto | it would be good though |
| 01:19:31 | raptor | there's got to be a way |
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| 01:43:51 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 01:44:19 | raptor | ah ha! |
| 01:44:24 | raptor | I found an obscure reference to 1.18.0 |
| 01:45:08 | Watusimoto | my guess would be in logging |
| 01:46:15 | Watusimoto | it seemed so promising... |
| 01:46:16 | Watusimoto | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Thread:Project:Support_desk/How_do_I_determine_the_version_of_MediaWiki_from_the_database%3F |
| 01:47:36 | Watusimoto | http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19074643/determining-mediawiki-version-from-the-database-only |
| 01:47:51 | Watusimoto | that last one suggests that mediawiki will just upgrade the db |
| 01:48:03 | raptor | ok |
| 01:48:09 | raptor | well we need a server first... |
| 01:48:17 | raptor | then i'll install, import and upgrade |
| 01:50:04 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 01:50:12 | Watusimoto | I'll reinstall the urpad version |
| 01:50:29 | Watusimoto | do you think we should try to script everything we're installing? |
| 01:50:32 | Watusimoto | probably not |
| 01:50:59 | raptor | nah |
| 01:51:35 | Watusimoto | 32 or 64 bit? |
| 01:51:39 | raptor | I have a plan to write an rsync command that will sync all the import directories/config files just as they are to the backup server |
| 01:51:43 | raptor | oh uh |
| 01:51:48 | raptor | hmm |
| 01:51:52 | raptor | what is the backup server? |
| 01:51:55 | Watusimoto | we had 64 before |
| 01:51:56 | Watusimoto | 32 |
| 01:52:13 | raptor | because rsyncing a compiled 64bit master won't really work.. |
| 01:52:25 | Watusimoto | though we could upgrade that to 64 when we're back up and running |
| 01:52:34 | raptor | yeah, that would be good |
| 01:52:39 | Watusimoto | so 64 then? |
| 01:52:51 | raptor | yes |
| 01:53:14 | Watusimoto | hey, they have suse now! |
| 01:53:18 | raptor | OOOOOOooooo |
| 01:53:21 | raptor | and the backup? |
| 01:53:25 | raptor | which SUSE? |
| 01:53:43 | Watusimoto | Suse-12.1-x86_64 |
| 01:53:47 | Watusimoto | and then these |
| 01:53:53 | Watusimoto | Susu-12.3-32 |
| 01:53:58 | Watusimoto | Susu-12.3-64 |
| 01:54:02 | Watusimoto | which I take to be a typo |
| 01:54:12 | raptor | hmmm.... |
| 01:54:28 | raptor | well, probably stick with centos, even though suse would be nice for me |
| 01:54:31 | Watusimoto | personlly I don;t really care, but I do know centos is everywhere |
| 01:54:41 | raptor | centos requires a little more hardening, too |
| 01:54:56 | Watusimoto | they also have debian |
| 01:55:06 | Watusimoto | and ubuntu |
| 01:55:10 | raptor | oh please no ubuntu |
| 01:55:19 | Watusimoto | and "scientific" |
| 01:55:27 | Watusimoto | and slackware and fedora |
| 01:55:43 | raptor | honestly the only desktop system that works really well as a server system (that I've seen) has been openSUSE |
| 01:56:06 | raptor | but we should keep them the same systems between the backup and primary |
| 02:01:51 | Watusimoto | backup has centos/scientific/slackware/debian/ubuntu |
| 02:02:03 | raptor | then i say centos |
| 02:02:11 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 02:02:18 | Watusimoto | somehow I put centos 5 on the backup |
| 02:02:21 | Watusimoto | will have to fix that |
| 02:09:24 | Watusimoto | ok, you have an account |
| 02:09:51 | Watusimoto | 209.148.88.166 |
| 02:10:24 | Watusimoto | name/pw in private window |
| 02:11:38 | sam686 | i think theres some kind of instability with the logbotbak and its master server... my server keeps losing connection and reconnecting to master multiple times in a past 24 hours, and logbotbck sometimes loses connection too |
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| 02:13:06 | raptor | ok, first order of business |
| 02:13:08 | raptor | denyhosts |
| 02:13:10 | raptor | and ssh config |
| 02:15:20 | raptor | i lied - first order of business is to install the extra repos |
| 02:18:55 | Watusimoto | denyhosts looks pretty sweet |
| 02:19:22 | raptor | yeah, it has saved us from getting taken over by a bot |
| 02:19:53 | Watusimoto | well, you can't know that |
| 02:20:27 | raptor | true... it has saved us from getting taken over in the same manner as the last bot took us over |
| 02:22:32 | fordcars | Hehe it's back :D |
| 02:32:20 | raptor | master user added |
| 02:32:30 | raptor | denyhosts is on |
| 02:33:28 | raptor | denied root ssh access |
| 02:36:01 | Watusimoto | luckily I already have my root ssh session running! |
| 02:36:21 | Watusimoto | I'll have to keep it open forever! |
| 02:36:24 | raptor | want me to rsync from the backup server the server resources? |
| 02:36:30 | Watusimoto | sure |
| 02:37:37 | raptor | that server is so slow... |
| 02:37:45 | raptor | rsync started |
| 02:37:57 | raptor | when it finishes, do you want to switch bitfighter.org back? |
| 02:38:02 | raptor | oh hey its done |
| 02:39:10 | Watusimoto | sure |
| 02:39:23 | Watusimoto | let me know when |
| 02:39:35 | raptor | done |
| 02:39:36 | raptor | when |
| 02:39:38 | raptor | full |
| 02:39:41 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 02:41:02 | Watusimoto | done |
| 02:41:11 | Watusimoto | bf.net still points at the backup |
| 02:41:21 | Watusimoto | for the moment at least |
| 02:49:45 | raptor | ok that's fine |
| 02:53:24 | raptor | i think the CPU resources on the backup are so low that initiating assymetric encryption is too much |
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| 02:55:15 | kaen | :< |
| 02:57:47 | raptor | hi kaen! |
| 02:58:26 | kaen | hi |
| 02:58:32 | raptor | ok, everything is off of the back onto the primary |
| 03:01:38 | Watusimoto | hi kaen |
| 03:03:27 | raptor | Watusimoto: still want the mailing list database? |
| 03:03:49 | Watusimoto | I don't know... I was still using it when we did updates |
| 03:04:04 | raptor | well i have one from november 23 |
| 03:04:05 | Watusimoto | so maybe yes? |
| 03:04:11 | Watusimoto | that should be fine enough |
| 03:04:59 | raptor | i was so hoping they could restore our server.. |
| 03:18:03 | raptor | installing mysql.. |
| 03:21:09 | raptor | ok, master is restarted, but not hooked into any databases |
| 03:30:06 | Watusimoto | no kidding |
| 03:30:43 | Watusimoto | ok, falling asleep... |
| 03:30:48 | raptor | ok |
| 03:30:58 | raptor | i hope to at least get forums up today... if ugly |
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| 04:14:01 | raptor | phpmyadmin is running! |
| 04:14:13 | raptor | but can't connect to mysql! |
| 04:14:18 | raptor | hmmm... |
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| 04:57:23 | raptor | the pleiades dump i have was from before we released 019 :( |
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| 10:21:06 | raptor | good morning! |
| 10:58:57 | raptor | forums are back! |
| 10:59:04 | raptor | styles are slightly different, of course |
| 11:09:43 | raptor | watusimoto: do you remember how you linked the wiki to phpbb? was it this?: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:PHPBB/Users_Integration or this?: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Phpbb_Single_Sign-On |
| 11:11:02 | raptor | both fo thos look more complication than they need to be.. |
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| 13:02:51 | raptor | ohhhhh |
| 13:02:53 | raptor | haha |
| 13:02:58 | raptor | i compiled master without mysql... |
| 13:08:25 | watusimoto | hi |
| 13:08:34 | raptor | hi :) |
| 13:09:00 | watusimoto | probably the second |
| 13:09:10 | raptor | ? |
| 13:09:22 | watusimoto | >>watusimoto: do you remember how you linked the wiki to phpbb? |
| 13:09:30 | raptor | ohh... |
| 13:09:38 | watusimoto | sorry, that was hours ago |
| 13:09:51 | raptor | yeah, sorry, i'm really tired so it seems like a long time ago |
| 13:09:57 | watusimoto | no worries! |
| 13:13:47 | raptor | ok, so wiki user integration - do you remember having to change both wiki and phpbb code for it? |
| 13:14:51 | watusimoto | I am not sure |
| 13:14:59 | watusimoto | mostly the wiki, I think |
| 13:15:15 | watusimoto | I have to go, but I'll try to remember on my ride home |
| 13:15:17 | watusimoto | sometimes that helps |
| 13:15:37 | watusimoto | later |
| 13:16:31 | raptor | bye |
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| 13:24:47 | raptor | authentication is working! |
| 13:25:16 | raptor | Missing GameJolt secret key! |
| 13:26:13 | fordcars | "fordcars's raspberry pi article" Oh no! |
| 13:26:36 | raptor | i also found a backup of logs from may |
| 13:27:32 | fordcars | Oh cool |
| 13:28:08 | fordcars | So, you are thinking of dropping dupral for good?? |
| 13:28:32 | raptor | yes |
| 13:28:38 | raptor | static pages |
| 13:29:12 | fordcars | Wow |
| 13:38:12 | raptor | of course, we have to create them... |
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| 13:46:19 | fordcars | Yeah, hopefully not by hand |
| 13:47:37 | Watusimoto | hi, back |
| 13:48:49 | raptor | hi |
| 13:49:03 | raptor | if you didn't see, forums and authentication are back |
| 13:49:21 | Watusimoto | also I know I'm making a mess of ownership in the html folders... we'll clean it up when we get things stablized |
| 13:49:26 | raptor | but the forums are missing a lot of the bitfighter-y things like the graphics mods |
| 13:49:26 | Watusimoto | great!! |
| 13:49:47 | Watusimoto | wow! |
| 13:49:47 | raptor | i was wondering - would you happen to have a backup of stuff from the first time we moved bitfighter.org? |
| 13:49:51 | Watusimoto | signs of life! |
| 13:50:01 | Watusimoto | I was going to go through my stuff tonight |
| 13:50:07 | Watusimoto | and see what I have |
| 13:50:09 | Watusimoto | nothing recent |
| 13:50:14 | Watusimoto | but perhaps recent enough? |
| 13:50:57 | raptor | i think recent-enough for some of the resources might be even before I joined on |
| 13:51:24 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 13:51:47 | raptor | back in a couple minutes... |
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| 14:13:38 | raptor | who would have though converting an algorithm from C# to java would be so difficult... |
| 14:13:41 | raptor | *thought |
| 14:13:52 | raptor | specifically because there is no unsigned integer in java |
| 14:13:53 | Watusimoto | backup situation looking negative |
| 14:14:03 | Watusimoto | sadly I deleted an old backup a few weeks ago |
| 14:14:03 | raptor | ? |
| 14:15:25 | Watusimoto | found something!!!!! |
| 14:15:54 | Watusimoto | 2011-2012 vintage |
| 14:17:32 | Watusimoto | found some old db dumps as well |
| 14:17:36 | Watusimoto | probably same era |
| 14:19:28 | Watusimoto | downloading |
| 14:19:53 | raptor | oh interesting... I found a full partition dump of my laptop when the harddrive broke last August |
| 14:20:00 | raptor | i wonder if it has stuff.. |
| 14:20:29 | Watusimoto | it's amazing what you can find tucked away here and there |
| 14:21:17 | raptor | hmmm... except it's compressed in a .fsa file (fsarchiver) |
| 14:21:26 | raptor | so I need to make a partition somewhere... |
| 14:27:07 | raptor | does windows 7 have a built-in python interpreter? |
| 14:36:27 | raptor | i still think the greatest loss was pleiades database... :( |
| 14:36:41 | raptor | back soon.. |
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| 15:34:57 | Watusimoto | copying backup |
| 15:36:42 | Watusimoto | includes through bf_015 |
| 15:43:11 | Watusimoto | this is a big file |
| 15:43:15 | Watusimoto | lots of stuff here |
| 15:43:42 | Watusimoto | wiki is probably too old to be really useful, but I'll bet styles and such are here |
| 15:51:33 | sam686 | oh hey look at my bitfighter skin its still there http://sam6.25u.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bitfighter |
| 16:02:00 | Watusimoto | uploading backup to bf.org |
| 16:08:44 | sam686 | i haven't checked my sam6.25u.com forum in months, when i finally did check, I get hundreds of spam waiting for approval to become visible |
| 16:09:29 | Watusimoto | awesome! I love spam! |
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| 16:58:41 | Watusimoto | raptor: /tmp/bitfighter_backup.zip |
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| 17:10:05 | raptor | hello again |
| 17:16:03 | raptor | looking at the backup.. |
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| 17:17:26 | raptor | Watusimoto: where did you get this backup? |
| 17:18:31 | Watusimoto | eykamp.com server |
| 17:18:36 | raptor | oh perfect |
| 17:18:38 | Watusimoto | is it useful? |
| 17:18:40 | raptor | yes |
| 17:18:42 | Watusimoto | good |
| 17:18:47 | Watusimoto | it was the only thing I found |
| 17:19:07 | Watusimoto | and I only have it because i was lazy in turning off a test backup process that ran for years |
| 17:19:14 | Watusimoto | but never really worked |
| 17:19:18 | raptor | what was that process doing? |
| 17:19:30 | Watusimoto | made a zip file of everything on the server |
| 17:19:40 | Watusimoto | which I was planning to copy offsite, but never did |
| 17:19:50 | Watusimoto | I pulled out the bf.org related stuff and just uploaded that |
| 17:20:07 | Watusimoto | all major html pages are now on our server |
| 17:20:32 | Watusimoto | they've all been formatted, and use a standard include for styles and menu |
| 17:20:56 | Watusimoto | they're still pulling resources from archive.org, but we'll get those |
| 17:21:06 | Watusimoto | all stylesheets are local |
| 17:21:14 | Watusimoto | so... progress |
| 17:21:17 | raptor | ok |
| 17:22:03 | Watusimoto | I finally got a sane workflow for editing all these remote html files |
| 17:24:21 | raptor | i'm making a list of things know to be lost so far: https://beta.etherpad.org/bflostcode |
| 17:25:50 | Watusimoto | by killing drupal, we lose our rss feed |
| 17:26:31 | raptor | ok, we can write a quick php script that parses our News |
| 17:26:47 | Watusimoto | sure |
| 17:27:00 | Watusimoto | I'll keep the link then |
| 17:30:05 | raptor | ha |
| 17:30:16 | raptor | i found our old SVN repo before i converted it to google code |
| 17:30:40 | sam686 | Theres also recent files up to 019c http://sourceforge.net/projects/bitfighter.mirror/files/?source=navbar |
| 17:31:21 | raptor | oh good! i didn't know they had so many older versions.. |
| 17:31:53 | sam686 | i think the old svn rebo have soem really old 011 files... |
| 17:32:11 | raptor | actually Watusimoto, this page still exists: |
| 17:32:13 | raptor | !gci |
| 17:32:13 | BFLogBot | GCI Students Welcome! Please see: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/GCI_Student_Bootstrap for getting started. |
| 17:32:36 | raptor | and it looks complete |
| 17:32:44 | Watusimoto | great |
| 17:33:01 | raptor | i can't tell who is who on that etherpad.. |
| 17:36:03 | sam686 | heres my wiki version MediaWiki 1.18.0 .. PHP 5.6.0RC1 (apache2handler) .. MySQL 5.5.37-1 |
| 17:36:19 | sam686 | heres bitfighter.org MediaWiki 1.23.1 .. PHP 5.3.3 (apache2handler) .. MySQL 5.1.73 |
| 17:36:30 | raptor | yes, i updated it last night |
| 17:36:49 | raptor | Watusimoto: did you have the wiki integration with the old bf.org? |
| 17:37:07 | sam686 | my php mysql got updated more, but i may have to manually update wikimedia |
| 17:37:44 | raptor | yeah, I first used php 5.4 and mysql 5.5, but I decided against it since it was using a messy 3rd-party repo |
| 17:37:54 | raptor | so I stuck with the older php/mysql |
| 17:42:53 | Watusimoto | thanks for the pw note |
| 17:43:09 | Watusimoto | that is an old one not much used except on forgotten accounts |
| 17:43:17 | raptor | I like to let people know I know their secrets... :) |
| 17:43:20 | Watusimoto | it's been removed |
| 17:46:02 | raptor | also, kaen may have something lying around, too |
| 17:46:19 | raptor | this is back: http://bitfighter.org/stats/gamereports.php |
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| 18:05:02 | Watusimoto | did you add this to the html files? |
| 18:05:02 | Watusimoto | <div class="block-header"> insertQuickChatMessage </div> |
| 18:05:06 | Watusimoto | ? |
| 18:07:21 | sam686 | which html files? |
| 18:07:52 | Watusimoto | on our "new" website |
| 18:07:59 | Watusimoto | it came from somewhere and i am not sure where |
| 18:08:05 | Watusimoto | maybe I did it |
| 18:13:11 | sam686 | I now have: MediaWiki 1.23.1 .. PHP 5.6.0RC1 (apache2handler) .. MySQL 5.5.37-1 bitfighter skin appears to continue to work just fine |
| 18:13:30 | sam686 | Its probably safe to put a bitfighter skin into wiki http://sam6.25u.com/wiki/skins/bitfighter.zip |
| 18:13:46 | sam686 | raptor might do that? |
| 18:13:50 | raptor | hi |
| 18:13:59 | raptor | ok, is that the original skin? |
| 18:14:19 | sam686 | its the skin that was on my old wiki, still works on newest wiki version |
| 18:14:50 | sam686 | I barely haven't made any changes afterwards i don't think... |
| 18:15:08 | sam686 | Most of my changes was done on my computers |
| 18:15:19 | Watusimoto | I think it was search/replace gone bad |
| 18:16:40 | raptor | where is you new wiki sam686? |
| 18:16:58 | raptor | I have a choice between using yours and using the one in Watusimoto's old site dump from 2011 |
| 18:17:20 | sam686 | same place http://sam6.25u.com/wiki/ basically replaced the old wiki, but transferring the phpbb and bitfighter skins along the way |
| 18:17:44 | Watusimoto | I don't see any skins there |
| 18:17:49 | raptor | me neither |
| 18:18:10 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/forums/styles/ it might depend on some files on http://sam6.25u.com/forums/styles/ |
| 18:18:53 | sam686 | well oops from double-paste |
| 18:19:22 | raptor | Watusimoto: you are using server-side includes? |
| 18:19:24 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bitfighter see bitfighter skin there? |
| 18:19:31 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 18:19:40 | Watusimoto | raptor: yes |
| 18:20:02 | Watusimoto | sam686: my eyes!!!!! the goggles... they do nothing!!! |
| 18:20:24 | | raptor is blind |
| 18:20:42 | Watusimoto | raptor: what about SSIs? |
| 18:20:49 | raptor | complete with a drive-by Lamp |
| 18:21:10 | raptor | i just wanted to understand your architecture |
| 18:21:17 | Watusimoto | old school |
| 18:21:20 | raptor | because I'll need to include it in the wiki/phpbb somehow |
| 18:21:27 | raptor | SSI is great |
| 18:21:32 | Watusimoto | I'm trying to find common blocks and insert them into the pages |
| 18:21:35 | raptor | if you get it working right, that is... |
| 18:21:39 | Watusimoto | it will work |
| 18:21:48 | Watusimoto | I'm pretty old school with this |
| 18:21:51 | Watusimoto | this shizzle |
| 18:22:05 | raptor | my work site (which is pretty large) uses 3 includes |
| 18:22:12 | raptor | one in the <head> |
| 18:22:28 | raptor | one first thing at the top of the <body> |
| 18:22:37 | raptor | and one right before for </body> (the footer) |
| 18:23:15 | raptor | and that's it for sitewide styles |
| 18:24:25 | raptor | so I'll need to merge sam686's wiki styles with your new architecture somehow... |
| 18:25:10 | sam686 | There is some links in bitfighter.php that might be of interest |
| 18:26:07 | sam686 | there is also plenty of .png links in bitfighter/main.css |
| 18:28:17 | raptor | sam686: where did you get that wiki style? |
| 18:28:26 | sam686 | Theres the main header and footer in wiki/skins/template/header.html |
| 18:29:07 | sam686 | very early I took the style from the very old wiki version and had to fix a bunch of thinks for newer version, doing it first on my local computer |
| 18:29:14 | raptor | ah ok |
| 18:29:39 | sam686 | which is why I still have that wiki skins on my computer.. nearly all changes done on my computer, i copy to bitfighter.org wiki |
| 18:30:13 | sam686 | in a process, i made it a separate skin, the very old bitfighter.org wiki only had one single skin |
| 18:31:51 | sam686 | for the most part in a past 1-2 years, i was probably the only one making major changes to wiki skin |
| 18:33:10 | sam686 | i look at the changes on other skins to see what I need to do to fix bitfighter skins |
| 18:33:37 | raptor | ah ok, so it is a drop-in skin now? |
| 18:33:46 | sam686 | yes |
| 18:34:00 | raptor | ok great |
| 18:35:10 | sam686 | The first step is to make http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bitfighter work as a bitfighter skin |
| 18:35:54 | sam686 | i might be back in 10 minutes |
| 18:52:34 | Watusimoto | to see the structure I'm using clearly, look at this document |
| 18:52:35 | Watusimoto | http://hastebin.com/catehoroqi.html |
| 18:52:43 | Watusimoto | it's our simpest page |
| 18:52:50 | Watusimoto | so you can see the 4 includes |
| 18:53:53 | raptor | ok, that seems simple enough |
| 18:54:14 | Watusimoto | there's 5 levels of divs in the header/footer |
| 18:54:16 | Watusimoto | yuck |
| 18:54:27 | raptor | blah |
| 18:54:28 | Watusimoto | we can clean that up later, but it works for now |
| 18:54:39 | Watusimoto | and it is at least hidden away |
| 18:54:53 | Watusimoto | so I'm done for the night with this |
| 18:55:00 | Watusimoto | this makes me hate life |
| 18:55:08 | raptor | ok, i'll only make minor cosmetic changes as I come across them |
| 18:55:11 | Watusimoto | but the structure of all the html pages is basically done |
| 18:55:14 | raptor | i won't alter structure much |
| 18:55:34 | Watusimoto | the next thing is to get all the resources local and stop using archive.org |
| 18:55:40 | Watusimoto | i'll work on that tomorrow |
| 18:55:43 | raptor | oh y eah, i can do that |
| 18:55:49 | Watusimoto | sure, whatever |
| 18:55:58 | Watusimoto | then as we feel motivated, we can simplify the styles |
| 18:56:06 | raptor | i don't mind taking some of the hate |
| 18:56:12 | Watusimoto | you already are! |
| 18:56:20 | raptor | because I hate this stuff, too... (CSS etc.) |
| 18:56:25 | Watusimoto | indeed |
| 18:56:37 | Watusimoto | well, chip away as you can, I will do the same |
| 18:56:41 | raptor | okey doke |
| 18:56:43 | raptor | thanks! |
| 18:56:44 | Watusimoto | I made a lot of progress tonight, I think |
| 18:56:53 | Watusimoto | I'm going to try to get bf to compile, then hit the sack |
| 18:57:05 | raptor | hah ok |
| 18:57:10 | Watusimoto | I made the mistatke of making a couple of render methods const, and it spread like wildfire |
| 18:57:21 | Watusimoto | turns out we do a lot of non-const stuff in our render methods |
| 18:57:21 | raptor | oh no! |
| 18:57:23 | Watusimoto | which is bad |
| 18:57:25 | raptor | yes |
| 18:57:36 | Watusimoto | but most of that is removed now |
| 18:57:44 | Watusimoto | except for the really hard cases |
| 18:58:05 | Watusimoto | and maybe when this is all done, you'll be able to rejoin the editor after testing without a crash |
| 18:58:44 | raptor | ok |
| 18:58:56 | raptor | let me do an rsync to the backup right now... |
| 18:59:19 | Watusimoto | good |
| 18:59:26 | Watusimoto | I have a local backup of all the html stuff |
| 18:59:45 | Watusimoto | I learned how to use winscp to keep a working folder synced up with a server |
| 18:59:53 | Watusimoto | it means I can use sublime on a remote folder |
| 18:59:55 | raptor | excellent |
| 18:59:59 | Watusimoto | (effectively) |
| 19:00:02 | Watusimoto | and I keep a backup |
| 19:00:14 | Watusimoto | do we want to create a hg repo for the website? |
| 19:00:27 | raptor | hmm... |
| 19:00:38 | Watusimoto | well, think about it |
| 19:00:53 | Watusimoto | it might be an easy way to keep another backup |
| 19:01:13 | raptor | yeah |
| 19:01:32 | raptor | but we shoudl exclude the php apps |
| 19:02:35 | Watusimoto | rats I need to fix the getinvolved page |
| 19:02:43 | Watusimoto | though maybe we should get rid of that one |
| 19:03:12 | raptor | i don't mind reducing the number of pages |
| 19:03:18 | raptor | especially in the bar up top |
| 19:03:36 | Watusimoto | fixed |
| 19:03:44 | Watusimoto | we need to reduce the width of the bar, for sure |
| 19:03:57 | Watusimoto | get involved could go |
| 19:03:58 | raptor | we probably don't need the 'home' |
| 19:04:00 | Watusimoto | contact could go |
| 19:04:11 | raptor | we could create a simple menu, too |
| 19:04:11 | Watusimoto | you're right! |
| 19:04:25 | Watusimoto | if we need a menu, we've got too much |
| 19:04:41 | raptor | hah ok |
| 19:05:00 | raptor | maybe we can morph several pages into one, like contact/develop/involved |
| 19:05:08 | raptor | err 'project' |
| 19:05:24 | Watusimoto | looks better now! |
| 19:05:32 | raptor | and maybe screenshots can be removed and placed as a static box on the main page |
| 19:05:46 | Watusimoto | contact/live chat could be combined |
| 19:05:56 | raptor | or just 'media' and then on that page we do screenshots / videos |
| 19:05:59 | Watusimoto | live chat also sounds vaguely... pornographic |
| 19:06:08 | raptor | hahaha |
| 19:06:13 | raptor | so just 'IRC' |
| 19:06:28 | Watusimoto | bitfighter ladies in <Provo> are waiting to chat with you live! hot hott! |
| 19:06:41 | raptor | oh man |
| 19:06:56 | Watusimoto | that could be our funding model |
| 19:07:18 | Watusimoto | we could use it to pay for a backup |
| 19:08:00 | raptor | we'd have to get a geoip database hooked up... |
| 19:42:22 | raptor | now it's time to lay low and stay away from the festivities |
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| 21:37:34 | fordcars | Hi |
| 21:38:01 | raptor | hi |
| 21:38:07 | raptor | bitfighter.org is back... ish |
| 21:41:44 | fordcars | It's starting to look better! |
| 22:02:56 | raptor | notes so far: https://beta.etherpad.org/bflostcode |
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