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| 00:44:33 | raptor | good evening |
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| 00:48:13 | amgine123 | raptor is 10x^2 ok for exp to level ? |
| 00:48:19 | raptor | hi |
| 00:48:29 | raptor | might be |
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| 12:44:36 | raptor | Attempting to fix the forums' styles |
| 12:53:03 | raptor | getting closer! |
| 13:03:57 | raptor | oh wow, sam686 got the wiki hooked into phpbb, and using a better method than before (with a real plugin) |
| 13:08:42 | raptor | ha! |
| 13:08:49 | raptor | I just found a pleiades export from June 6 |
| 13:08:54 | raptor | not a database dump |
| 13:08:57 | raptor | a levels dump |
| 13:09:01 | raptor | from my export script |
| 13:50:32 | raptor | getting closer! |
| 14:15:43 | raptor | Watusimoto: I propose putting the header styles in the page_header.html include |
| 14:15:58 | raptor | and pulling them out from other CSS |
| 14:16:07 | raptor | because... look at the forums |
| 14:23:13 | raptor | nevermind... looks like i got it |
| 14:23:59 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 14:24:49 | Watusimoto | not sure where you ended up with the style question |
| 14:24:53 | Watusimoto | but |
| 14:25:43 | Watusimoto | I propose that we collapse all the styles into two stylesheets -- one for common styles that will be used across different elements (forums, wiki, etc.), and one that is just for the static web pages, that doesn't make sense to share |
| 14:25:52 | Watusimoto | and, at the same time, weeding out all the unused styles |
| 14:25:58 | raptor | we need a 3rd |
| 14:26:00 | raptor | for the header |
| 14:26:15 | Watusimoto | the header here is the menu bar/site logo/etc.? |
| 14:26:22 | raptor | yes |
| 14:26:25 | raptor | no other styles |
| 14:26:37 | Watusimoto | that wouldn't go in the common styles? |
| 14:26:56 | raptor | no, because the common styles includes conflicting things that are already set by the forums style |
| 14:27:03 | raptor | probably because it was drupal stuff |
| 14:27:49 | Watusimoto | so the forums would only use the header styles, and not common styles? |
| 14:27:57 | raptor | I just split out the header styles and it fixes in the forums |
| 14:28:10 | raptor | yes, because it has its own style scheme |
| 14:28:27 | Watusimoto | so, if I understand, we will have styles duplicaed between forums and what I am calling common |
| 14:28:51 | raptor | I was not proposing to do major style overhaul of the forums/wiki - just get the overall feel close, then use the site headers |
| 14:29:33 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 14:29:38 | Watusimoto | so I propose this |
| 14:29:48 | raptor | with my current stategy, I only had to include one line in one file for the forums |
| 14:29:52 | raptor | ok |
| 14:29:55 | Watusimoto | short term solution: 3 styles, with some duplication, but less work |
| 14:30:08 | Watusimoto | long term aspirational goal; 2 styles with less duplication |
| 14:30:43 | raptor | the issue with the 2 styles is that both the forums/wiki pull from their own theme engines |
| 14:31:00 | raptor | oh wait |
| 14:31:05 | raptor | maybe i'm misunderstanding |
| 14:31:15 | raptor | because right now, static pages are pulling styles from forums |
| 14:31:29 | Watusimoto | I didn't realize that |
| 14:31:50 | raptor | oh yeah - there is this ugly mix of drupal/forums styles |
| 14:31:58 | raptor | but there are direct includes to the forums |
| 14:32:32 | Watusimoto | my aspiration is to have a single set of styles that applies to wiki/html/forums |
| 14:32:38 | Watusimoto | that aspiration may never be met |
| 14:32:43 | raptor | ok wait |
| 14:32:58 | Watusimoto | maybe I should look at some page code! |
| 14:33:01 | raptor | i agree with that, but is the scope of the single-set? is it just for header/footer? |
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| 14:33:09 | raptor | *but what is |
| 14:33:30 | raptor | if the single-set of styles is just for page header/footer, then i think that's doable |
| 14:33:35 | Watusimoto | my thought was the scope would include things like the orange header color |
| 14:34:01 | Watusimoto | or the blue we use here and there |
| 14:34:04 | Watusimoto | and the fonts |
| 14:34:14 | Watusimoto | but not necessarily the structural layout stuff |
| 14:34:43 | raptor | i was thinking it'd just be header/headerlinks/online box/footer |
| 14:35:00 | raptor | anything else and we have to diagnose overrides with the forums/wiki/anyotherapp internal themes |
| 14:35:30 | Watusimoto | well, let's start with what you propose |
| 14:35:38 | Watusimoto | but I think for the font colors it may work ok |
| 14:35:41 | raptor | it looks like our original site used the forums styles hacked into drupal |
| 14:35:46 | Watusimoto | even if we have to resort to tstuff like: |
| 14:36:18 | Watusimoto | .phpthingie, .mediawikitextcolor, .favorite_blue { textcolor: blue } |
| 14:36:35 | raptor | ok |
| 14:36:46 | Watusimoto | but I want to be pragmatic |
| 14:36:52 | raptor | yes, most definitely |
| 14:37:03 | Watusimoto | and so I say let's worry about that tomorrow |
| 14:38:19 | raptor | ok here: https://beta.etherpad.org/bfsitedesign |
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| 14:44:59 | Watusimoto | so it appears you want to collapse the two headers I created into one (menu bar + frame starting stuff) |
| 14:45:02 | Watusimoto | is that right? |
| 14:45:07 | raptor | yes |
| 14:45:34 | raptor | we should have a large frame wrapper so that the forums don't look like they do now... :) |
| 14:45:54 | raptor | and that will go right up against the other header stuff |
| 14:47:10 | Watusimoto | oh, so all pages will go inside the set of 6 divs? |
| 14:47:21 | raptor | 6? |
| 14:47:24 | Watusimoto | 5? |
| 14:47:28 | raptor | one |
| 14:47:44 | Watusimoto | did you change that? |
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| 14:47:48 | raptor | maybe 2 or 3 if really needed? |
| 14:47:50 | raptor | no |
| 14:48:03 | Watusimoto | the existing code (last time I looked) had 6 |
| 14:48:20 | Watusimoto | not sure that all 6 are needed, but the page frame has a complex look |
| 14:48:22 | raptor | yeah - that was because of the hacked forums-on-drupal work |
| 14:48:26 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 14:48:33 | Watusimoto | ok, so you simplified it |
| 14:49:43 | raptor | basically, i think we need a single wrapper for any apps that we want to 'fit' in |
| 14:49:45 | Watusimoto | *updating local cache so I can see what things look like code-wise* |
| 14:49:57 | raptor | and therefor not conflict with the header as the forums do now |
| 14:50:11 | raptor | Watusimoto: you are pulling from bf.org, not pushing, right? |
| 14:50:28 | Watusimoto | uh.... |
| 14:50:39 | raptor | I haven't done the simplification work yet |
| 14:50:42 | Watusimoto | it was my intent to pull |
| 14:51:18 | Watusimoto | but now you've scared me |
| 14:51:33 | raptor | ha... you just pushed the changes back to bf.org |
| 14:51:38 | Watusimoto | crap! |
| 14:51:54 | Watusimoto | I'm using an unfamilliar tool to keep a synchronized copy locally |
| 14:52:07 | raptor | what exactly did you sync? |
| 14:52:13 | raptor | (before you go further) |
| 14:52:25 | Watusimoto | I thought that when it started it updated my local copy; maybe it starts by updating the remote copy |
| 14:52:37 | Watusimoto | /var/www/html |
| 14:52:45 | Watusimoto | not all of it |
| 14:52:46 | raptor | !! |
| 14:53:06 | Watusimoto | but the html and css stuff |
| 14:53:17 | Watusimoto | did I just wipe out your work?? |
| 14:53:31 | raptor | no... because i moved all styles to a single directory |
| 14:53:33 | raptor | :) |
| 14:53:52 | raptor | oh, haha, you adjusted the permissions on 'html' |
| 14:53:55 | Watusimoto | ok, well, before I start this thing in the future, I'll do a manual sync from remote to local |
| 14:53:55 | sam686 | at least it didn't erase the wiki phpbb plugin... |
| 14:54:02 | raptor | no wonder you were able to sync ... |
| 14:54:25 | raptor | ok, almost cleaned up remote |
| 14:54:32 | raptor | looks like you did something with screenshots.. |
| 14:54:35 | Watusimoto | man, really sorry for any distress |
| 14:54:40 | raptor | let me make sure my changes are still there |
| 14:55:00 | Watusimoto | at least "delete files" is unchecked :-) |
| 14:55:16 | raptor | ok |
| 14:55:18 | raptor | all cleaned up |
| 14:55:22 | Watusimoto | that was fast |
| 14:55:32 | raptor | i checked timestamps :) |
| 14:55:48 | raptor | so you'll find that there is no more an 'includes' or 'styles' directory |
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| 14:55:53 | raptor | everything is under 'inc' now |
| 14:56:47 | raptor | and i've given everyone write access to the files beneath |
| 14:56:51 | Watusimoto | ok, doing a manual sync now |
| 14:57:47 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/wiki/skins/ maybe someday you can download bitfighter.zip wiki skins when ready |
| 15:03:57 | sam686 | raptor said in forums "The biggest issue I see is possible conflicting database IDs.", easy, made the new level database ID start at ID=1000 |
| 15:05:15 | raptor | ok back, sorry - my 2 year old unraveled an entire TP roll |
| 15:05:31 | raptor | they make such nice fluffy piles! |
| 15:06:02 | raptor | ok, i did a quick static file backup to our backup server |
| 15:06:05 | raptor | hi sam686 |
| 15:06:35 | raptor | I actually found all levels up until june 6th in a local copy of the pleiades level server |
| 15:06:47 | raptor | so i just have to write a reimport... |
| 15:07:00 | raptor | after i get kaen to tell me how to redeploy pleiades... |
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| 15:09:18 | amgine123 | hey raptyor i think i found a good equation for exp needed to level |
| 15:09:39 | amgine123 | Y=(x(x+0)*10 |
| 15:11:09 | amgine123 | does that look good ? |
| 15:11:15 | raptor | Watusimoto: are you editing files from windows? |
| 15:11:25 | Watusimoto | no, or ever? |
| 15:11:29 | Watusimoto | *now* |
| 15:11:34 | raptor | now |
| 15:11:40 | Watusimoto | I'm not editing anything now |
| 15:11:45 | Watusimoto | I'm just downloading stuff |
| 15:11:48 | raptor | because if you are using linux, you can open remote files in any kde editor |
| 15:12:08 | Watusimoto | I do edit them in windows |
| 15:12:11 | raptor | if windows... i think there is a jedit plugin that'll do it, too |
| 15:12:13 | Watusimoto | but preserve line endings |
| 15:12:48 | Watusimoto | winscp has an option to keep a local folder synced with a remote one |
| 15:12:49 | amgine123 | @ raptor and wattsimo ive decided on exp need to level for a level system will be x(x+0)*10 is that good ? |
| 15:12:51 | raptor | ooo... and this: http://itekblog.com/ssh-with-notepad/ |
| 15:13:26 | Watusimoto | amgine123: I can look at that to compare, but I've been using a system that looks like this: |
| 15:13:38 | Watusimoto | 100, 200, 500, 1000, 2000, 5000, ... |
| 15:13:45 | sam686 | you can just open txt and himl files into visual studio or whatever you have it reads and probably keeps line endings there too. windows notepad can't read line endings |
| 15:13:52 | amgine123 | it gets to stteep later on |
| 15:13:55 | amgine123 | steep |
| 15:14:02 | amgine123 | level 100 is ridicolus |
| 15:14:21 | amgine123 | and thats if im correct x(x+1)*50 |
| 15:14:29 | Watusimoto | the idea was to make the first level trivial, and to have only 9 levels, and to make it so sam686 would still have at least one more level to go |
| 15:14:38 | raptor | haha |
| 15:14:48 | amgine123 | well im thinking of a higher level system |
| 15:15:11 | raptor | NppFTP looks cool! but you probably use sublime in windwos? |
| 15:15:19 | Watusimoto | this idea was coneived when we were thinking of having level badges next to player names. that required a limited number of levels |
| 15:15:26 | Watusimoto | that idea seems somewhat dead |
| 15:15:40 | Watusimoto | or at least it's pining for the fjords |
| 15:16:22 | Watusimoto | (if anyone gets that reference) |
| 15:17:05 | raptor | so i propose a single div so that everything is below the header |
| 15:17:33 | raptor | I have to find a non-conflicting id name |
| 15:17:47 | Watusimoto | (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npjOSLCR2hE) |
| 15:18:09 | Watusimoto | I'm not sure such a div will work |
| 15:18:15 | Watusimoto | but other than that, I like it! |
| 15:18:46 | amgine123 | not really you could have more levels but fewer badges |
| 15:19:25 | amgine123 | look at my equation its really mild and gives alot of flexibility |
| 15:19:37 | amgine123 | only 100000 exp for level 100 |
| 15:19:43 | amgine123 | 100k |
| 15:20:21 | Watusimoto | ok, good amgine123 |
| 15:22:58 | raptor | howabout: bfheader, bfpage, bffooter |
| 15:23:07 | raptor | as ids for our 3 section divs |
| 15:23:15 | raptor | on every page, including forums/wiki |
| 15:23:44 | raptor | because 'header' and 'page' and 'footer' are already taken in varying degrees by the web apps |
| 15:26:32 | Watusimoto | it compiles!!!! |
| 15:26:48 | Watusimoto | raptor: the ids sound good |
| 15:26:51 | raptor | Watusimoto: are you working on the website at all? |
| 15:26:58 | Watusimoto | bfheader or bf_header |
| 15:26:59 | raptor | if not, then i'd like to make some changes... |
| 15:27:00 | Watusimoto | no |
| 15:27:04 | Watusimoto | go for it |
| 15:27:04 | raptor | ok great |
| 15:27:13 | raptor | underscore looks cleaner |
| 15:27:16 | Watusimoto | I was planning on doing some of the grunt work of consilidating the styles |
| 15:27:24 | Watusimoto | but am not doing that now |
| 15:27:35 | Watusimoto | and will not do that unless I need some "down" time |
| 15:36:31 | raptor | ha |
| 15:50:16 | raptor | This is what I did with my down time the last 2 days: https://github.com/raptor/stars/blob/master/java/src/main/java/org/starsautohost/starsapi/encryption/Decryptor.java |
| 15:51:26 | raptor | rewrote the stars! file decryption algorithm in java |
| 16:02:55 | Watusimoto | great! |
| 16:03:02 | Watusimoto | why? |
| 16:03:53 | raptor | because I wanted to change a server flag in a game i was playing with my brother (forgot to let AIs ally with each other) |
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| 16:04:46 | amgine123 | whew just finished putting in a new faucet handle for my father |
| 16:05:08 | amgine123 | im soaked XD |
| 16:06:47 | raptor | and i discovered that everyone else was keeping the stars! decryption code secret |
| 16:06:56 | raptor | so i decompiled a .NET DLL i found |
| 16:07:02 | raptor | and posted it |
| 16:08:35 | amgine123 | stars ? |
| 16:09:41 | amgine123 | btw raptor the code is a bit messy why dont we do like professionals and have 2 files 1 with source code and 1 with a header |
| 16:10:05 | amgine123 | or jsut put all headers into a super header that only needs to be called once ..... |
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| 16:29:01 | fordcars | amgine123, the files are split like that like that it is waaaayyy easier to find the things you are looking for. It is more organized this way. |
| 16:29:25 | amgine123 | not really it takes me forever to find certin files |
| 16:29:52 | amgine123 | i mean if you need some individual headers you can keep them al but calling 1 header is easier no ? |
| 16:30:04 | amgine123 | you can call the individual one |
| 16:32:39 | fordcars | Well it's not very difficult. Say you want colors, you include "colors.h" |
| 16:33:22 | amgine123 | but what if oyu want more then one header owuldnt it be nice to jsut say one header instead of like 50 million ? |
| 16:33:57 | raptor | it's called modularization, and you'll almost never find a professional project that uses only 1 header |
| 16:34:09 | raptor | in fact, the only one i can think of is sqlite3 |
| 16:37:16 | fordcars | Modular programming is a software design technique that emphasizes separating the functionality of a program into independent, interchangeable modules, such that each contains everything necessary to execute only one aspect of the desired functionality. Conceptually, modules represent a separation of concerns, and improve maintainability by enforcing logical boundaries between components |
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| 16:52:08 | sam686 | No matter what I put on $server in stats db_functions.php it will not connect to the correct server... It turns out index.php was setting $server = ""; after including db_functions.php |
| 16:52:26 | raptor | oh wow |
| 16:52:37 | raptor | yeah, rename the variables in db_functions |
| 16:53:36 | sam686 | I just erase the $server = "" line and it now connects to correct server |
| 16:54:05 | sam686 | http://sam6.25u.com/bitfighter/gamereports/ using the replicated copy of database |
| 16:54:42 | sam686 | I end up using $server = ":/var/run/mysqld/mysqld2.sock"; for my second server, or it can also be localhost:3308 |
| 16:56:00 | sam686 | i think I have a slightly older version of stats then the one on bitfighter.org currently |
| 16:56:41 | sam686 | will update it eventually, probably after when kaen updates it |
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| 17:26:23 | amgine123 | hey sam |
| 17:26:46 | amgine123 | im thinking of X(x+0)*10 for exp needed for each level what do you think ? |
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| 17:53:50 | Watusimoto | wow... costa rica is tied with NL after the first 90 mins |
| 17:53:59 | Watusimoto | never expected that |
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| 18:52:48 | sam686 | I dare you try to load http://sam6.25u.com/bitfighter/gamereports/?days=30000 into your web brower... internet explorer hangs for a minute then crashes.. chrome goes blackout when scrolled all the way to the bottom after gaving it 20 minutes to load completely |
| 18:59:37 | raptor | sorry, playing with site styles |
| 18:59:42 | raptor | nobody panic! |
| 19:04:54 | sam686 | game reports between 22 Nov 2013 06:19:46 PM and 03 Jul 2014 03:16:28 PM appers to be missing or lost |
| 19:09:42 | raptor | yes - all databases, except forums, date to 23 Nov |
| 19:10:18 | sam686 | forum files/avatars? |
| 19:10:55 | sam686 | There is a whole lot of broken avatar pictures, and that might also include the broken download attachments |
| 19:13:12 | sam686 | the "search" bar in the forum looks like it is way off to the right edge of the page |
| 19:21:08 | sam686 | after putting in bitfighter.php in skins, in wiki/localsettings.php, change $wgDefaultSkin = "bitfighter"; |
| 19:22:22 | sam686 | you don't need to change the DefaultSkin yet, until after verifying that http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&useskin=bitfighter is a bitfighter skin |
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| 19:36:22 | sam686|2 | is my other sam going to time out? |
| 19:39:32 | sam686|2 | or is my other sam going to net split away from here? |
| 19:40:49 | sam686|2 | my other sam was at adams freenode net, I switched to card freenode net |
| 19:41:45 | sam686|2 | either the ping time out changed to 480 seconds or more likely, the one of many freenode server died |
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| 19:42:34 | sam686|2 | and.. that was the adams freenode net server that I lost connection to.... |
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| 19:43:55 | fordcars | Hey raptor, you are a java developer, right? |
| 19:44:17 | raptor | yes |
| 19:44:34 | fordcars | Just wondering, when you create a new object, and you dereference it, does the object delete itself? |
| 19:45:02 | fordcars | Obj obj = new Obj(); |
| 19:45:05 | fordcars | obj = 0; |
| 19:45:32 | raptor | no |
| 19:45:34 | raptor | but |
| 19:45:46 | raptor | well sort of |
| 19:45:48 | raptor | ok |
| 19:45:53 | raptor | forget references |
| 19:46:01 | raptor | java has a garbage collector |
| 19:46:15 | raptor | so depending on the scope of the object, it will get cleaned up automatically |
| 19:46:26 | fordcars | That's like javascript |
| 19:46:32 | raptor | yes and Lua |
| 19:46:49 | fordcars | Lol, I never did any object oriented programming with Lua |
| 19:47:06 | raptor | heh, i've tried but failed miserably |
| 19:47:39 | fordcars | Ok, so if there aren't any variables that point to the object, then it gets thrown away (in the garbage) when the scope ends? |
| 19:47:49 | fordcars | Or somthing |
| 19:50:24 | sam686 | I think I partly kindof done something like oop on one level in lua? http://sam6.25u.com/43265784/2/ |
| 19:50:57 | sam686 | well that link is not so secret anymore... it was back in a level editing contest |
| 19:55:33 | sam686 | not found http://bitfighter.org/forums/images/smilies/zap_dance.gif |
| 19:56:03 | raptor | try searching for those resources in /root/temp/bitfighter |
| 19:56:12 | raptor | that's the old website dump from the previous move |
| 19:56:23 | sam686 | A bunch of post icons is also missing like http://bitfighter.org/forums/images/icons/day.png |
| 20:00:40 | sam686 | sudo find /root -name zap_dance nope nowhere to be found bit i did found day.png |
| 20:01:23 | amgine123 | trying to find missing server files ? |
| 20:09:24 | sam686 | theres the php warning [Sat Jul 05 19:40:08 2014] [error] PHP Warning: strtotime(): It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected 'America/New_York' |
| 20:12:15 | sam686 | anybody have this file? [Sat Jul 05 20:10:13 2014] [error] script '/var/www/html/stats/player.php' not found or unable to stat |
| 20:22:53 | Watusimoto | sam686: you can probably answer this the quickest: |
| 20:22:58 | Watusimoto | is this case feasible? |
| 20:22:59 | Watusimoto | https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=448&start=100 |
| 20:23:34 | Watusimoto | that is, can we scope objects on a per-player basis, and only send textItems to the players who should see them? |
| 20:24:03 | raptor | I hated having to debug that team/neutral/editor rendering logic |
| 20:29:36 | sam686 | the scoping stuff is done one gametype.cpp performScopeQuery |
| 20:30:10 | sam686 | TextItem::onAddedToGame have setScopeAlways |
| 20:32:40 | Watusimoto | Would it be feasible to create a setScopeTeam() or something? |
| 20:33:03 | Watusimoto | I think it should be |
| 20:34:43 | Watusimoto | ok, well, time for bed |
| 20:34:56 | Watusimoto | good night! |
| 20:35:00 | raptor | night! |
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