#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2014-11-15

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00:00:01 raptor but you have to hack it to play OSX images
00:00:16 raptor i'll get you the patch..
00:01:28 raptor ok, if you use the vmware player, you have to unlock osx support with the file 'unlock-all-v130.zip' that i just put in my home dir on your server
00:01:50 sam686 ok
00:44:09 BFLogBot Commit: da20ec70de | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Update Window Icon to not be as horrible on Windows 7
00:56:08 raptor getting sleepy - sam686 are you making any progress?
00:57:24 sam686 not exactly any progress, i might think about continuing more tomorrow
00:58:22 raptor did you try the vmware player?
00:58:43 sam686 not yet
00:59:29 sam686 another problem is if running both virtualbox and vm player they will conflict with each other over the use of vt-x hardware virtualization (i think)
01:00:14 raptor ok
01:00:24 raptor i recommend the player - it's really good and does x86_64
01:00:55 raptor it should work if you use the unaltered vm i gave you
01:01:07 raptor but I need to sleep now.  good night!
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01:01:30 sam686 ok, i may think about it tomorrow
01:01:40 raptor ok, night!
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14:10:39 raptor good day!
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14:13:05 sam686 so this have fixed my problem on 10.6 compiling to target 10.4:  switching from gcc-4.2 to gcc-4.0 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1165361/setting-gcc-4-2-as-the-default-compiler-on-mac-os-x-leopard
14:13:26 sam686 http://sam6.25u.com/upload/bf_running_mac10_6.png   the directories doesn't quite look right though
14:14:01 raptor hi sam686
14:14:20 raptor yeah that's an OSX hack that will get you into trouble down the road
14:14:30 raptor the directories look almost OK - missing is the leveldir
14:14:54 raptor oh wait..
14:15:01 raptor they're missing the 'Bitfighter' subdir
14:15:04 raptor yeah, that's bad
14:15:41 sam686 that what im thinking, its throwing everything to Application support and not to its own bitfighter folder
14:15:54 raptor it used to work OK...  i wonder what happened..
14:15:57 raptor this is 019d?
14:16:05 sam686 yes
14:16:32 sam686 also needs to fix level folder for new installs
14:16:52 raptor yeah, that's odd
14:17:39 sam686 in fact, there is nothing there in application folder, just bitfighter.ini bitfighter.log, theres no screenshow/scripts/robots/music
14:18:00 raptor i'll look at the missing Bitfighter dir
14:18:19 raptor maybe something else is broke - Windows 7 doesn't seem to save my login at the start
14:18:58 sam686 i usually do standalone bitfighter on windows so i didn't notice that
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14:25:12 sam686 I have managed to install mac os x 10.8 and 10.9 into virtualbox, i just needed to add something to config to make it work (VBoxInternal2/SmcDeviceKey) without it all I get is a spinning rainbow ball
14:25:30 sam686 they both does really say its on x86-64
14:26:45 sam686 i kindof will just give up trying to make 10.6 use 64 bit kernel
14:27:01 raptor ok
14:27:23 raptor it may be good to work on 10.8 - Apple dropped 10.4 support a couple years ago and it's really old
14:27:49 raptor if you work on 10.8, that way we'll know Bitfighter will run on the newer systems
14:28:55 sam686 on 10.9 it ran without problems up to 4 cpus,  on 10.8 I had severe freezing with more then 1 CPU, but then that slowdown is fixed by deleting some intel cpu power management kext
14:29:05 raptor or 01.9
14:29:07 raptor 10.9
14:29:19 raptor anything 10.8 and above should be good
14:31:13 sam686 unfortunately i do have some other problems on 10.9:  flickering web page while scrolling, and clicking on "More info" from about this mac goes black screen for 3 seconds (finder crash?)
14:31:31 sam686 (the crash only happens about 50% of the time though)
14:31:58 raptor try disabling flash, sleep, hibernation
14:34:14 raptor apple dropped support for 10.4 5 years ago
14:37:20 sam686 my 10.6 have blinking mouse pointer when bitfighter is running (blinking stops when mouse pointer is away from bitfighter window)
14:37:33 raptor tha tmight happen because of opengl emulation
14:47:21 sam686 just noiced my 10.8 also have flickering scrollbar, not as bad as 10.9... my guess is the system is expecting to v-sync and render so fast, the flickering might not be seen if on real graphics hardware
14:55:16 sam686 booo http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19551298/app-cant-be-opened-because-it-is-from-an-unidentified-developer (happened when trying to install mercurial)
14:55:36 raptor you'r ekidding
14:56:19 sam686 it can be turned off, but it defaults to not allow
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15:55:02 amgine123 raptor are you here
15:56:17 sam686 no
15:59:10 BFLogBot Commit: 984c1f1956 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Fix Windows packaging of missing DLLs and extra updater files
15:59:21 raptor no
15:59:25 raptor hi
15:59:30 raptor i'm about to leave, though
15:59:39 raptor so i can answer a quick question
16:00:12 raptor sorry, have to go quicker...
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16:00:40 amgine123 sam what is the current bug log for teh current build
16:01:30 amgine123 of coure your afk ugh
16:01:42 amgine123 !bugs
16:01:42 BFLogBot To enter a bug: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewbug -- To view all bugs: http://tinyurl.com/bfbugs
16:03:31 sam686 hi
16:06:57 amgine123 sam what is the current url for the most curretn test build of bitfighter to report bugs
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16:07:37 amgine123 im testing bitfighter-019d-win32-f9ec116 and am not sure whre to post bugs
16:14:59 sam686 i guess maybe here http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List (you can edit there and add 109d-specific bugs that don't happen on 019c) but at the moment we kindof don't have a specific page
16:17:17 sam686 excuse me, 019d not 109d
16:35:34 amgine123 not yet anyways ^_^
16:39:30 amgine123 theres some werid bugs with forcefeilds
16:39:42 amgine123 on my build i cant place a forcefeild on a vertical poly wall
16:39:47 amgine123 horizontaly
16:42:55 sam686 at the main menu, check if it says 019d or 20, or 019c,  019d will soon come hopefully
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16:48:03 amgine123 can you check and see if it does it for you ?
16:53:35 sam686 it doesn't happen to me on 019d, or it might be the snapping to grid problem, hold down space might help?
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19:54:14 raptor found a bug, i think - it doesn't save your username unless you do 'save password' upon start-up
19:54:26 thread_ hey raptor
19:54:30 raptor do you have that problem, too, sam686?
19:54:34 raptor thread_!
19:54:36 raptor hello
19:56:11 thread_ So, I made a levelgen that allows building logic gates in the game. i put a demo level in the db
19:56:11 thread_ http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/331
19:56:32 raptor are you taking an ECEN course this semester?
19:56:43 thread_ no...
19:56:55 thread_ It just sounded like fun
19:57:16 raptor because I'm taking a course that is heavy into logic gates...
19:58:00 thread_ Anyway, I'm hoping taht people can use this to do basic level programming for levels inside the editor itself...
19:58:05 thread_ Ina manner of speaking
19:58:28 raptor in fact, I'll be having to design a 16 bit CPU soon...
19:58:37 raptor let me load that level on pleiades to take a look...
19:58:45 thread_ So far, it can only enable/disable turrets and forcefields
19:59:44 sam686 16 bit cpu? its either going backwards on technology, or it may be for some very low power cpu?
19:59:46 thread_ Oh, looks like I broke it already...
19:59:51 raptor sam686: it's for a class
19:59:59 sam686 ok
20:00:36 raptor so very backwards :)
20:01:22 thread_ the class or my levelgen?
20:01:53 raptor my class
20:02:29 raptor are you still at BYU?
20:02:33 thread_ yep
20:03:52 thread_ I'm going to have to go here pretty soon. Just wanted to show you logic gates in bit fighter
20:04:06 raptor great!
20:05:21 raptor ok, i loaded it onto pleiades
20:05:30 raptor now to test!
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20:15:19 raptor i think watusimoto has been stuck reading a good book
20:19:41 raptor ok both 32/64 bit windows compiled and installed OK
20:19:46 raptor now for OSX mess!
20:27:04 Raven67854 Booo! Booo! OSX! Booo!
20:28:27 amgine123 thread you go to byu ?
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20:50:31 raptor OSX BOOOO
20:51:40 fordcars BOOO
20:52:41 raptor fordcars: I'm testing the feasibility of Team:setScore for Lua bindings
20:52:49 raptor for 019d...  not sure it'll work
20:53:11 fordcars Aww
20:53:20 fordcars It's good, it wasn't urgent
20:54:22 fordcars I wish we had an addBot command though; with kaen's fancy hack making it capable of communicating between scripts would be awesome
20:54:32 fordcars For 020 though, not urgent
20:54:34 raptor do Robot.new()
20:54:37 raptor i think that works
20:54:38 fordcars WHAT?
20:54:40 fordcars Really?
20:54:44 raptor yeah...  kaen added that
20:54:44 fordcars Man I had no idea
20:54:47 fordcars Haha kaen
20:54:51 raptor at least, i hope it works in 019d
20:55:00 raptor if you'd like to try, that'd be great!
20:55:04 fordcars I really would like to ask him what his hack was though
20:55:07 fordcars Yeah I'll try
20:55:14 raptor oh, i'll find it for you
20:55:20 fordcars Thanks :)
20:55:31 raptor it's here:  https://github.com/bkconrad/bitfighter-campaign
20:55:35 fordcars WHoa
20:55:41 raptor look at messagebus.lua
20:55:56 raptor he somehow hijacked the global Lua table and allowed messages to be passed back and forth
20:55:57 fordcars Wow he really worked a lot on that
20:56:47 fordcars Btw raptor, when I have Little_Apple's script running at the same time as my global web app script, they do fuzzy stuff
20:57:01 fordcars Well, La's script crashes I believe
20:57:08 raptor what was his?
20:57:23 fordcars slo
20:57:29 raptor oh, haha
20:57:31 fordcars :)
20:57:43 fordcars Nothing big, just wandering
20:57:47 raptor i helped him with that one...  i told him there were no guarantees it didn't blow up his machine
21:00:28 fordcars Haha
21:00:44 raptor fuzzy things tend to happen when there are variables that are the same, or two methods trying to grab the same event
21:00:48 fordcars Anyway it was crashing trying to get the ships, because my script was doing that too
21:00:50 fordcars Oh okok
21:00:52 fordcars Yep
21:01:29 raptor global variables, that is
21:04:44 sam686 im not sure if the cmake's scripts for mac works for xcode 4.6.3, because everything is self contained into xcode.app (4 GB) http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1411/141115_19-57-20.txt
21:05:19 raptor oh yikes
21:05:57 sam686 it was a drag to app folder type of install which didn't really do anything but copy for the most part
21:06:38 sam686 same with cmake,  drag to app folder to install didn't auto add to path for terminal, but i did manage to add it to terminal's path to make cmake work
21:09:05 sam686 my PATH looks like this" (echo $PATH) /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/Applications/CMake.app/Contents/bin
21:09:13 sam686 i manually added the cmake path
21:10:15 raptor are you on 10.8?
21:10:36 sam686 yes
21:11:35 sam686 i can add paths by adding paths to /etc/paths.d/something then restarting terminal
21:13:30 sam686 i could try soft link from where its expecting to look for, but thats an extra step to get it to compile..
21:17:02 raptor there's got to be a less hacky way...
21:18:05 sam686 cmake does get a little farther when using -G "Xcode" compared to not using -G
21:25:01 raptor my guess is that the newer Xcode does not put the compilers on the path like the old ones used ot
21:25:03 raptor *to
21:26:01 sam686 thats not the only thing, the paths to sdk is also different, now inside the Xcode.app
21:26:25 sam686 cmake itself does seem to find gcc correctly when using -G "Xcode"
21:28:12 raptor this says to set up proper softlinks:  https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24045307/is-it-possible-to-install-ios-7-sdk-on-xcode-6
21:30:36 sam686 yes, it says ln -s something something could be used... but thats for ios or different versions
21:37:03 sam686 cmake bitfighter does get far enough it complete after doing this command:
21:37:05 sam686 ln -s /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer /Developer
21:37:14 raptor ah excellent
21:37:24 raptor sounds like we should support that new path, though
21:38:35 sam686 if not using -G "Xcode", the path to gcc/make would also need to be set
21:38:54 raptor yeah, that may be unavoidable
21:39:02 raptor we'll just have to adapt to newer OSX..
21:39:21 raptor i shoudl look at the hedgewars cmake system - they support OSX ok, it seems
21:41:01 raptor i'll be back in a little while...
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00:00:01	raptor	but you have to hack it to play OSX images
00:00:16	raptor	i'll get you the patch..
00:01:28	raptor	ok, if you use the vmware player, you have to unlock osx support with the file 'unlock-all-v130.zip' that i just put in my home dir on your server
00:01:50	sam686	ok
00:44:09		BFLogBot Commit: da20ec70de \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Message: Update Window Icon to not be as horrible on Windows 7
00:56:08	raptor	getting sleepy - sam686 are you making any progress?
00:57:24	sam686	not exactly any progress, i might think about continuing more tomorrow
00:58:22	raptor	did you try the vmware player?
00:58:43	sam686	not yet
00:59:29	sam686	another problem is if running both virtualbox and vm player they will conflict with each other over the use of vt-x hardware virtualization (i think)
01:00:14	raptor	ok
01:00:24	raptor	i recommend the player - it's really good and does x86_64
01:00:55	raptor	it should work if you use the unaltered vm i gave you
01:01:07	raptor	but I need to sleep now. good night!
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01:01:30	sam686	ok, i may think about it tomorrow
01:01:40	raptor	ok, night!
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14:13:05	sam686	so this have fixed my problem on 10.6 compiling to target 10.4: switching from gcc-4.2 to gcc-4.0 http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1165361/setting-gcc-4-2-as-the-default-compiler-on-mac-os-x-leopard
14:13:26	sam686	http://sam6.25u.com/upload/bf_running_mac10_6.png the directories doesn't quite look right though
14:14:01	raptor	hi sam686
14:14:20	raptor	yeah that's an OSX hack that will get you into trouble down the road
14:14:30	raptor	the directories look almost OK - missing is the leveldir
14:14:54	raptor	oh wait..
14:15:01	raptor	they're missing the 'Bitfighter' subdir
14:15:04	raptor	yeah, that's bad
14:15:41	sam686	that what im thinking, its throwing everything to Application support and not to its own bitfighter folder
14:15:54	raptor	it used to work OK... i wonder what happened..
14:15:57	raptor	this is 019d?
14:16:05	sam686	yes
14:16:32	sam686	also needs to fix level folder for new installs
14:16:52	raptor	yeah, that's odd
14:17:39	sam686	in fact, there is nothing there in application folder, just bitfighter.ini bitfighter.log, theres no screenshow/scripts/robots/music
14:18:00	raptor	i'll look at the missing Bitfighter dir
14:18:19	raptor	maybe something else is broke - Windows 7 doesn't seem to save my login at the start
14:18:58	sam686	i usually do standalone bitfighter on windows so i didn't notice that
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14:25:12	sam686	I have managed to install mac os x 10.8 and 10.9 into virtualbox, i just needed to add something to config to make it work (VBoxInternal2/SmcDeviceKey) without it all I get is a spinning rainbow ball
14:25:30	sam686	they both does really say its on x86-64
14:26:45	sam686	i kindof will just give up trying to make 10.6 use 64 bit kernel
14:27:01	raptor	ok
14:27:23	raptor	it may be good to work on 10.8 - Apple dropped 10.4 support a couple years ago and it's really old
14:27:49	raptor	if you work on 10.8, that way we'll know Bitfighter will run on the newer systems
14:28:55	sam686	on 10.9 it ran without problems up to 4 cpus, on 10.8 I had severe freezing with more then 1 CPU, but then that slowdown is fixed by deleting some intel cpu power management kext
14:29:05	raptor	or 01.9
14:29:07	raptor	10.9
14:29:19	raptor	anything 10.8 and above should be good
14:31:13	sam686	unfortunately i do have some other problems on 10.9: flickering web page while scrolling, and clicking on "More info" from about this mac goes black screen for 3 seconds (finder crash?)
14:31:31	sam686	(the crash only happens about 50% of the time though)
14:31:58	raptor	try disabling flash, sleep, hibernation
14:34:14	raptor	apple dropped support for 10.4 5 years ago
14:37:20	sam686	my 10.6 have blinking mouse pointer when bitfighter is running (blinking stops when mouse pointer is away from bitfighter window)
14:37:33	raptor	tha tmight happen because of opengl emulation
14:47:21	sam686	just noiced my 10.8 also have flickering scrollbar, not as bad as 10.9... my guess is the system is expecting to v-sync and render so fast, the flickering might not be seen if on real graphics hardware
14:55:16	sam686	booo http://stackoverflow.com/questions/19551298/app-cant-be-opened-because-it-is-from-an-unidentified-developer (happened when trying to install mercurial)
14:55:36	raptor	you'r ekidding
14:56:19	sam686	it can be turned off, but it defaults to not allow
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15:55:02	amgine123	raptor are you here
15:56:17	sam686	no
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15:59:21	raptor	no
15:59:25	raptor	hi
15:59:30	raptor	i'm about to leave, though
15:59:39	raptor	so i can answer a quick question
16:00:12	raptor	sorry, have to go quicker...
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16:00:40	amgine123	sam what is the current bug log for teh current build
16:01:30	amgine123	of coure your afk ugh
16:01:42	amgine123	!bugs
16:01:42	BFLogBot	To enter a bug: http://tinyurl.com/bfnewbug -- To view all bugs: http://tinyurl.com/bfbugs
16:03:31	sam686	hi
16:06:57	amgine123	sam what is the current url for the most curretn test build of bitfighter to report bugs
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16:07:37	amgine123	im testing bitfighter-019d-win32-f9ec116 and am not sure whre to post bugs
16:14:59	sam686	i guess maybe here http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List (you can edit there and add 109d-specific bugs that don't happen on 019c) but at the moment we kindof don't have a specific page
16:17:17	sam686	excuse me, 019d not 109d
16:35:34	amgine123	not yet anyways ^_^
16:39:30	amgine123	theres some werid bugs with forcefeilds
16:39:42	amgine123	on my build i cant place a forcefeild on a vertical poly wall
16:39:47	amgine123	horizontaly
16:42:55	sam686	at the main menu, check if it says 019d or 20, or 019c, 019d will soon come hopefully
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16:48:03	amgine123	can you check and see if it does it for you ?
16:53:35	sam686	it doesn't happen to me on 019d, or it might be the snapping to grid problem, hold down space might help?
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19:54:14	raptor	found a bug, i think - it doesn't save your username unless you do 'save password' upon start-up
19:54:26	thread_	hey raptor
19:54:30	raptor	do you have that problem, too, sam686?
19:54:34	raptor	thread_!
19:54:36	raptor	hello
19:56:11	thread_	So, I made a levelgen that allows building logic gates in the game. i put a demo level in the db
19:56:11	thread_	http://bitfighter.org/pleiades/levels/view/331
19:56:32	raptor	are you taking an ECEN course this semester?
19:56:43	thread_	no...
19:56:55	thread_	It just sounded like fun
19:57:16	raptor	because I'm taking a course that is heavy into logic gates...
19:58:00	thread_	Anyway, I'm hoping taht people can use this to do basic level programming for levels inside the editor itself...
19:58:05	thread_	Ina manner of speaking
19:58:28	raptor	in fact, I'll be having to design a 16 bit CPU soon...
19:58:37	raptor	let me load that level on pleiades to take a look...
19:58:45	thread_	So far, it can only enable/disable turrets and forcefields
19:59:44	sam686	16 bit cpu? its either going backwards on technology, or it may be for some very low power cpu?
19:59:46	thread_	Oh, looks like I broke it already...
19:59:51	raptor	sam686: it's for a class
19:59:59	sam686	ok
20:00:36	raptor	so very backwards :)
20:01:22	thread_	the class or my levelgen?
20:01:53	raptor	my class
20:02:29	raptor	are you still at BYU?
20:02:33	thread_	yep
20:03:52	thread_	I'm going to have to go here pretty soon. Just wanted to show you logic gates in bit fighter
20:04:06	raptor	great!
20:05:21	raptor	ok, i loaded it onto pleiades
20:05:30	raptor	now to test!
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20:15:19	raptor	i think watusimoto has been stuck reading a good book
20:19:41	raptor	ok both 32/64 bit windows compiled and installed OK
20:19:46	raptor	now for OSX mess!
20:27:04	Raven67854	Booo! Booo! OSX! Booo!
20:28:27	amgine123	thread you go to byu ?
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20:50:31	raptor	OSX BOOOO
20:51:40	fordcars	BOOO
20:52:41	raptor	fordcars: I'm testing the feasibility of Team:setScore for Lua bindings
20:52:49	raptor	for 019d... not sure it'll work
20:53:11	fordcars	Aww
20:53:20	fordcars	It's good, it wasn't urgent
20:54:22	fordcars	I wish we had an addBot command though; with kaen's fancy hack making it capable of communicating between scripts would be awesome
20:54:32	fordcars	For 020 though, not urgent
20:54:34	raptor	do Robot.new()
20:54:37	raptor	i think that works
20:54:38	fordcars	WHAT?
20:54:40	fordcars	Really?
20:54:44	raptor	yeah... kaen added that
20:54:44	fordcars	Man I had no idea
20:54:47	fordcars	Haha kaen
20:54:51	raptor	at least, i hope it works in 019d
20:55:00	raptor	if you'd like to try, that'd be great!
20:55:04	fordcars	I really would like to ask him what his hack was though
20:55:07	fordcars	Yeah I'll try
20:55:14	raptor	oh, i'll find it for you
20:55:20	fordcars	Thanks :)
20:55:31	raptor	it's here: https://github.com/bkconrad/bitfighter-campaign
20:55:35	fordcars	WHoa
20:55:41	raptor	look at messagebus.lua
20:55:56	raptor	he somehow hijacked the global Lua table and allowed messages to be passed back and forth
20:55:57	fordcars	Wow he really worked a lot on that
20:56:47	fordcars	Btw raptor, when I have Little_Apple's script running at the same time as my global web app script, they do fuzzy stuff
20:57:01	fordcars	Well, La's script crashes I believe
20:57:08	raptor	what was his?
20:57:23	fordcars	slo
20:57:29	raptor	oh, haha
20:57:31	fordcars	:)
20:57:43	fordcars	Nothing big, just wandering
20:57:47	raptor	i helped him with that one... i told him there were no guarantees it didn't blow up his machine
21:00:28	fordcars	Haha
21:00:44	raptor	fuzzy things tend to happen when there are variables that are the same, or two methods trying to grab the same event
21:00:48	fordcars	Anyway it was crashing trying to get the ships, because my script was doing that too
21:00:50	fordcars	Oh okok
21:00:52	fordcars	Yep
21:01:29	raptor	global variables, that is
21:04:44	sam686	im not sure if the cmake's scripts for mac works for xcode 4.6.3, because everything is self contained into xcode.app (4 GB) http://sam6.25u.com/upload/text1411/141115_19-57-20.txt
21:05:19	raptor	oh yikes
21:05:57	sam686	it was a drag to app folder type of install which didn't really do anything but copy for the most part
21:06:38	sam686	same with cmake, drag to app folder to install didn't auto add to path for terminal, but i did manage to add it to terminal's path to make cmake work
21:09:05	sam686	my PATH looks like this" (echo $PATH) /usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/Applications/CMake.app/Contents/bin
21:09:13	sam686	i manually added the cmake path
21:10:15	raptor	are you on 10.8?
21:10:36	sam686	yes
21:11:35	sam686	i can add paths by adding paths to /etc/paths.d/something then restarting terminal
21:13:30	sam686	i could try soft link from where its expecting to look for, but thats an extra step to get it to compile..
21:17:02	raptor	there's got to be a less hacky way...
21:18:05	sam686	cmake does get a little farther when using -G "Xcode" compared to not using -G
21:25:01	raptor	my guess is that the newer Xcode does not put the compilers on the path like the old ones used ot
21:25:03	raptor	*to
21:26:01	sam686	thats not the only thing, the paths to sdk is also different, now inside the Xcode.app
21:26:25	sam686	cmake itself does seem to find gcc correctly when using -G "Xcode"
21:28:12	raptor	this says to set up proper softlinks: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/24045307/is-it-possible-to-install-ios-7-sdk-on-xcode-6
21:30:36	sam686	yes, it says ln -s something something could be used... but thats for ios or different versions
21:37:03	sam686	cmake bitfighter does get far enough it complete after doing this command:
21:37:05	sam686	ln -s /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer /Developer
21:37:14	raptor	ah excellent
21:37:24	raptor	sounds like we should support that new path, though
21:38:35	sam686	if not using -G "Xcode", the path to gcc/make would also need to be set
21:38:54	raptor	yeah, that may be unavoidable
21:39:02	raptor	we'll just have to adapt to newer OSX..
21:39:21	raptor	i shoudl look at the hedgewars cmake system - they support OSX ok, it seems
21:41:01	raptor	i'll be back in a little while...
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