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| 17:00:50 | raptor | good day |
| 17:34:08 | raptor | aww man... do i have to install Debian SID? |
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| 19:32:08 | Watusimoto | hi |
| 19:32:14 | raptor | hello |
| 19:32:18 | Watusimoto | today has been deal with rot day |
| 19:32:27 | Watusimoto | rot on my porch. rot under my porch |
| 19:32:29 | raptor | rot? like with wood? or... |
| 19:32:30 | raptor | ah |
| 19:32:33 | Watusimoto | rot on my balcony |
| 19:32:36 | raptor | fun! |
| 19:32:39 | raptor | (not) |
| 19:33:09 | raptor | i wonder... do those sealants they advertise actually work? |
| 19:33:59 | raptor | rotten wood was everywhere at the old house I grew up in |
| 19:34:00 | Watusimoto | I don't know... you have to keep the wood dry |
| 19:34:11 | Watusimoto | if the sealants do that, they might work |
| 19:34:29 | raptor | they're supposed to extend the life of the wood to 20/30/40/50 years! |
| 19:34:45 | raptor | but i've never dealt with porches |
| 19:34:53 | Watusimoto | if the wood is damp, I don't think anything will help |
| 19:34:59 | raptor | new wood helps |
| 19:35:09 | Watusimoto | actually, it doesn't |
| 19:35:14 | Watusimoto | at least not for long |
| 19:35:15 | raptor | yeah, if its already damp |
| 19:35:35 | Watusimoto | new wood tends to rot much faster than old oldgrowth stuff |
| 19:35:37 | raptor | that's why i asked about sealants... |
| 19:35:52 | raptor | when you say 'new wood', do you mean 'engineered' wood? |
| 19:35:56 | raptor | if so, then yes |
| 19:36:19 | Watusimoto | new wood = wood harvested from new growth forests |
| 19:36:35 | raptor | ah... that's a term i'm unfamiliar with |
| 19:36:38 | Watusimoto | which is most everything you would find at the lumber store |
| 19:36:50 | Watusimoto | i.e. not old-growth 500 year old trees |
| 19:36:55 | raptor | what constitutes 'new growth' ? |
| 19:36:59 | raptor | oh, just the age? |
| 19:37:03 | Watusimoto | something planted in the last 8o years |
| 19:37:04 | raptor | makes sense.. |
| 19:37:06 | Watusimoto | or so |
| 19:37:13 | raptor | ok, i see, yeah |
| 19:37:24 | Watusimoto | we are going to paint the new compoents with various boat sealants to try to keep it dry |
| 19:38:09 | raptor | my dad came over the summer and built us some bookshelves - we determined never to use sealing stain again |
| 19:38:16 | Watusimoto | i pulled off a facia board from my balcony, and it just disintegrated in my hand |
| 19:38:22 | raptor | oh yuk |
| 19:38:42 | Watusimoto | why no sealing stain? |
| 19:39:05 | Watusimoto | and by that what do you mean? a stain usually is an oil-based prodcut that soaks in to the wood |
| 19:39:18 | Watusimoto | and does not seal it |
| 19:39:45 | Watusimoto | then you would usually seal it with a clear coat -- there are various kinds |
| 19:40:53 | raptor | yes |
| 19:41:02 | raptor | but there is a product that is 2-in-1 |
| 19:41:35 | raptor | and... it seals before you can stain things properly |
| 19:41:41 | Watusimoto | that sounds bad |
| 19:42:06 | raptor | at least, it seals before 2 amateur stainers can stain something properly... |
| 19:42:22 | raptor | so the 2nd bookshelf i just used linseed oil |
| 19:43:39 | raptor | i'm on page 28 of the 86 page intro-to-building-debian-packages |
| 19:44:31 | raptor | maybe you can spread the polyurethane on really thick |
| 19:51:18 | Watusimoto | multiple thin coats is probably better |
| 19:51:39 | Watusimoto | sanding with a really fine sandpaper in between |
| 19:52:20 | Watusimoto | I did three coats on my kitchen table that way and it came out great -- it's held up beautifully for 15 years |
| 20:08:17 | raptor | so i wonder if something like that would work in a rot-prone part of an outdoor balcony |
| 20:24:10 | Watusimoto | improving the drainage is the first order of business |
| 20:24:29 | Watusimoto | without that, the wood will continue to be wet, and will rot |
| 20:24:32 | Watusimoto | one way or another |
| 20:24:52 | Watusimoto | I don't think it can be completely embalmed without going to extremes |
| 20:25:35 | Watusimoto | so I'm heading out shortly, but will be back later, and want to work on an easy task |
| 20:25:58 | raptor | I have a few 019d bugs left... |
| 20:26:05 | Watusimoto | I will either pick something off the to-do list, or, if three are still some items on that editor bug list you were putting together the other night, I can do something from there |
| 20:26:17 | Watusimoto | what bugs? |
| 20:26:38 | raptor | let me put a pastie together... |
| 20:29:12 | raptor | Watusimoto: http://pastie.org/pastes/9826461/text |
| 20:31:18 | Watusimoto | ok, cool |
| 20:31:29 | Watusimoto | wait, which ones did you do? |
| 20:31:35 | Watusimoto | (saw the did these note) |
| 20:31:56 | raptor | uh... commit made in the last 5 days by sam686 or myself |
| 20:32:02 | raptor | *any commit |
| 20:32:13 | raptor | like zone vertices not being marked |
| 20:32:20 | raptor | a server lobby crash |
| 20:32:36 | Watusimoto | ok, so none of the ones you pastied have been done |
| 20:32:37 | raptor | hover tooltips not showing for dock objects |
| 20:32:40 | raptor | correct |
| 20:32:42 | Watusimoto | ok |
| 20:32:45 | Watusimoto | that's fine then |
| 20:32:48 | raptor | oh, i see the confusion |
| 20:32:50 | raptor | sorry about that |
| 20:33:03 | raptor | so 1, 2, 8, 9, 10 still need to be done |
| 20:33:09 | raptor | err, everything there |
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| 22:15:59 | raptor | almost got debian building on an official debian distro! |
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| 22:16:52 | sky_lark | Watusimoto: or raptor online? |
| 22:17:07 | raptor | hi |
| 22:17:17 | sky_lark | Hey, can you check your inbox and tell me if BCC worked successfully? |
| 22:17:25 | raptor | ok |
| 22:17:33 | sky_lark | I'm a little paranoid... :) |
| 22:18:41 | raptor | Hi, I got a BCC PM in the forums |
| 22:18:46 | raptor | i didn't know you could do that... |
| 22:18:55 | raptor | i'm the only one on it |
| 22:20:49 | sky_lark | Sweet, thanks :) |
| 22:21:04 | sky_lark | It will be sent to all contest authors! |
| 22:21:20 | raptor | I'm going to increase that limit to 100 |
| 22:21:28 | raptor | 50 seems it may be low for management of a contest |
| 22:22:19 | raptor | ok, you should be bale to use 100 now :) |
| 22:23:31 | sky_lark | Granted I may have just revealed another author -____- but hey who reads irc amirite |
| 22:23:40 | raptor | heh, yes |
| 22:23:40 | sky_lark | Oh wow thanks raptor! That's super helpful :D |
| 22:24:41 | sky_lark | Seriously this just took unnecessary weight off my shoulders, I hate exporting PMs because they are super unreadable in .csv |
| 22:24:53 | raptor | glad I could help :) |
| 22:31:52 | raptor | JeffMB: are they going to make the ice levels go away soon? or, how can i change that evil theme? |
| 22:32:00 | raptor | (for marbleblast) |
| 22:39:28 | JeffMB | raptor: tonight at midnight they are supposedly gone |
| 22:47:53 | raptor | hooray! |
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