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IRC Log for 2015-06-20

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00:19:11raptoroh hey... mp3 patents may run out at the end of this year!
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17:04:25Watusimotohi there
17:04:30raptorhi
17:04:49WatusimotoI think I figured out the issue we discussed -- how to get the running script from the L
17:04:56raptorI tested playing mp3s if i just dropped in the right DLL... it doesn't work
17:05:02raptoroh?
17:05:26Watusimotothat will let me kill extra objects when the script ends; I'll track objects on a per-script basis
17:05:36Watusimotothat will be much cleaner
17:05:45Watusimototying objects to their creating scripts lifetimes
17:05:53WatusimotoI can probably (again) get rid of LuaObject
17:06:09raptorha
17:06:14WatusimotoI went to see a play last night where you biked between the scenes
17:06:23raptorso what will the console be considered? a single script?
17:06:29Watusimotoconsole is kind of other
17:06:33raptorok
17:06:38WatusimotoI don't thin kit has a script
17:06:40raptora mobile play?
17:06:47WatusimotoNor an end-of-life
17:06:53Watusimotosort of yes
17:07:02Watusimoto5 or 6 scenes, each in a different location
17:07:13raptorinteresting idea...
17:07:19Watusimotoit was about an evil segway rider going back in time to kill the invention of the bicycle
17:07:35raptorhahaha
17:07:42Watusimotoso each ride was a trip through time
17:07:59Watusimotopretty cheesy, but fun
17:08:21Watusimototoday I'm going on a bike tour of where the damage from the earthquake will be and how to be prepared
17:08:27Watusimotothen later on a ride about crows
17:08:53Watusimotothen finally, tonight, a bike tour of various rooftops around town that you can climb up on
17:08:58raptori'm still amazed at how entrenched the bicycle is in the culture there (that you explain)
17:09:16Watusimotothis is pedalpalooza... our 3 wk festival of bike fun.
17:09:22raptorohhhhh
17:09:22Watusimotohttp://www.shift2bikes.org/cal/
17:09:26Watusimotojust to give you an idea
17:09:41Watusimotosomething for everyone
17:09:59raptordo you get many tourists? or is it mostly local
17:10:06Watusimotoall locals
17:10:11Watusimoto(as far as I know)
17:10:18Watusimotoit's pretty low budget, so to speak
17:10:45Watusimotobut there were 50-60 at the play last night
17:10:53Watusimotoso turnout can be pretty good
17:11:32Watusimotothe bike prom was last night as well, so there were tons of people riding around in their prom gowns
17:12:02Watusimotothe pre-prom champaigne ride started at the same time/place as the bike play, so I got a good look at some of the people
17:16:21raptori'd want to do GET LOST
17:17:26Watusimotoyeah, that's a weird looking one
17:17:38Watusimotoheck, it's just fun riding around with 30 other people
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17:18:12raptorsorry, connection issues...
17:18:24raptorlooks like next saturday is naked rides all day!
17:19:16Watusimotoyeah... it's a big thing
17:19:28WatusimotoI'm not really into that, but, apparently, a lot of people are
17:19:34Watusimotothey get well over 1000 riders
17:19:38raptorwow
17:19:54Watusimotoit's one of the really big events
17:20:39raptori keep getting questions from players who want to play mp3s
17:20:48WatusimotoI saw them ride by one year, and a mother with two 8-10 yr old girls made them stand with their backs to the parade and cover their eyes
17:20:56WatusimotoI thoguht that was pretty funny
17:20:59raptorhaha
17:21:10Watusimotomy kids were there too, about the same age
17:21:26Watusimotowe where actually there to watch a bike race, when the naked parade came through
17:21:46Watusimotoand I'll tell you... I should have turned away myself
17:21:53raptorhow do the police handle that one? seems rather large and, uh, stark
17:21:54WatusimotoI'll never unsee it
17:22:03Watusimotoit's totally legal
17:22:09Watusimototo be naked anyway
17:22:18Watusimotoless sure about the logistics of the ride itself
17:22:33Watusimotoas it's impossible to obey all traffic laws with a group that big
17:22:41Watusimotothere might have been a police escort
17:23:16WatusimotoI mean... if you were a cop, would you want to grab a naked dude?
17:23:43raptorblech
17:23:43Watusimotoso they are probably issued a parade permit, which are pretty easy to get
17:24:13Watusimotothen you get a police escort, and you can pretty much not worry about traffic laws, so long as you are generally well behaved
17:24:15Watusimotowhich people are
17:24:33raptorthat's good
17:25:00raptori've been thinking about compiling alure with DYNLOAD, which will let people drop in an mp3 DLL and play mp3s
17:25:37Watusimoto<< http://pdxwnbr.org/ >>
17:25:47Watusimotothat would be great
17:25:56raptorthere is a downside
17:26:02raptorwow... lots of skin
17:26:14Watusimotomp3, while a terrible format overall, is really the format to have
17:26:18raptormp3s conflict with mods
17:26:24raptorbut only the .mod file type
17:26:36Watusimotothat's fine... do we have any .ods?
17:26:38Watusimoto.mods?
17:26:54Watusimotoif we were to take a vote of .mp3 vs .mod, it would be 100% to 0
17:26:55raptorbecause (and i had to talk to the alure developer about this) both mp3s and .mod have no container format and therefore no guaranteed file signature
17:27:31raptorso... having both capabilities basically amounts to a guess; and false positive distorted music
17:27:56raptorso i can explicitly disable .mod in favor of mp3 if you're OK with that
17:28:17raptorwe have no .mods - they have been superseded at least a decade ago by the many better tracker formats
17:28:43Watusimotoyes mp3 please
17:29:13Watusimoto(I was just watching a bit of the video about the naked ride, and there are cops all over blocking intersections and such)
17:32:46raptorok, and i did some checking - we'll need the mpg123 header, but that's not copyright infringement
17:33:25raptorand of course we can't actually distribute the DLL... but perhaps a sneaky anonymous poster could post a DLL to the forums...
17:39:42Watusimotoright, that could totally happen
17:39:49WatusimotoI got to skedaddle
17:39:58WatusimotoI'll be back after the crow ride :-)
17:40:13raptorlater!
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20:54:45raptorthis site is great!: http://sourceforge.net/p/predef/wiki/Home/
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