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14:21:24BFLogBot Issue #637 opened by elementc | Title: Linux download link broken on website. | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637
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16:42:50BFDiscordBridge<raptor> that was clever
17:00:39BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: raptor | Comment: Thanks! Turns out I lost my notes/scripts on how to make a standalone build from RPMs *and* since 021 uses c++11 and ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711443795
17:02:07BFDiscordBridge<raptor> I just realized (again) that bitfighter.org was never updated with newer screenshots
17:02:12BFDiscordBridge<raptor> Also we should probably have a big fat, noticeable download button on the homepage
17:04:02BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: elementc | Comment: I'm literally working on a config file to make this a snap package right now, mostly because I want to learn snap and fl ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711444391
17:08:09BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: elementc | Comment: Oh, you're worried about dropping 32bit x86 support. The fact that I just *assumed* you were talking about ARM probably ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711445029
17:09:38BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: raptor | Comment: I've made several AppImage packages for other softwrae projects, but only for x86_64. The only barrier is my current kno ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711445255
17:13:32BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: elementc | Comment: I say let's plow forward with x64 for now! If 32bit is sorely missed, having a working x86_64 config is probably a bette ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711445975
17:22:32BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> bitfighter snap package when
17:29:42BFDiscordBridge<raptor> isn't SNAP pretty horrific? Like it requirs an ubuntu derivative and an extra system-level process to run them?
17:33:02BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> bruh
17:33:08BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> snap is designed to work on all distros
17:33:10BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> that's the point
17:34:32BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> you just create one snap package and it can be installed and run on any system with snapd installed
17:35:09BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> no worries about dependencies because they're all included in the package
17:39:52BFDiscordBridge<raptor> it's the 'with snapd installed' that is a problem
17:40:08BFDiscordBridge<raptor> AppImage will do all of that without snapd
17:41:26BFDiscordBridge<raptor> So if I wanted to distribute an easily run package to as many Linux distros as possible, what is the solution?
17:42:24BFDiscordBridge<raptor> Up until now, I made my own standalone package for a really old version of Linux and include the libs inside. But it's now broke and I'm considering alternatives
17:48:16BFDiscordBridge<raptor> flatpak is the other
17:49:32BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: raptor | Comment: Update: I just found my old scripts to do the standalone build and sure enough, they no longer work because of ABI chang ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711452317
18:22:23BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> but flatpak needs the flatpak software to be installed?
18:29:22BFDiscordBridge<raptor> yes
18:29:35BFDiscordBridge<raptor> which is why i find AppImage the most appealing
18:48:34BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> The biggest buttons on bitfighter.org should be the download button and the discord button haha
19:07:10BFDiscordBridge<raptor> we had someone redo the website once, named jimmythesquid
19:07:25BFDiscordBridge<raptor> i don't remember why we didn't roll with it
19:07:41BFDiscordBridge<raptor> it was fancy with big buttons and a clean UI
19:22:07BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> I used to be able to make really clean websites with WordPress
19:22:33BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> But now that I’m learning JavaScript and Python and Ruby I could eventually try to work on it hah
19:24:29BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> @raptor what about installing
19:24:29BFDiscordBridge<ChumpChange> Nice shooting @Lamp! You just ranked up to level 11 !
19:25:48BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> someone ppl might want to install it and have the .desktop thing in their menu while others may be fine or want a standalone app they have to double-click
19:26:09BFDiscordBridge<raptor> ah yes, wordpress - we were totally going to move to that, then realized we just wanted to write HTML instead of have a full blown management system
19:26:42BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> WordPress is super good for people who don’t know how to write code for websites but know how websites should work
19:26:53BFDiscordBridge<raptor> or actually, maybe that was when the whole website was taken over by a bot and we have to start from scratch
19:26:54BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> It takes like 30 minutes to make a clean Wordpress website
19:27:04BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> or ppl who do but can't be arsed
19:27:09BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Yeah
19:27:25BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Like if you know some HTML and CSS and use WordPress, oh man your websites can be beautiful
19:27:29BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> @raptor what how did that happen and when??
19:27:35BFDiscordBridge<raptor> ah the memories... we had to restore the website from archive.org because the backup script hadn't been running yet
19:27:44BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> h
19:27:52BFDiscordBridge<raptor> it was like 5-6 years ago
19:27:55BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> fof
19:28:01BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> wat bot howd bot get in
19:28:14BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> fokin chinese bots
19:28:50BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> there were 1,536 failed login attempts since the last successful login
19:28:51BFDiscordBridge<raptor> I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect it was SSH with some sort of privelege escalation exploit
19:28:58BFDiscordBridge<raptor> haha, yeah
19:29:29BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> can't have any ssh server on port 22 without it CONSTANTLY being attacked by bots from china
19:30:05BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> Goddamn China
19:30:11BFDiscordBridge<raptor> is china doing most of the attacks nowadays? I remember it being a lot from ukraine/russia
19:30:21BFDiscordBridge<raptor> also romania
19:30:51BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> i hope root has a good or no password https://ggh1.qonq.gq
19:30:55BFDiscordBridge<raptor> i mean, if you do geoip on the IPs
19:31:07BFDiscordBridge<raptor> ah yes, you can't ssh in as root 🙂
19:31:13BFDiscordBridge<raptor> never letting that happen again...
19:33:03BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> worth changing the port so logs don't inflate like a balloon
19:34:07BFDiscordBridge<raptor> yeah, i do that on most servers. I also run a blocking system that will block your connection if too many failed attempts
19:34:14BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> fail2ban?
19:37:44BFDiscordBridge<raptor> that or denyhosts
20:13:38BFDiscordBridge<raptor> who keeps chaning the MOTD? I like it, I just don't know who has the password to do it anymore...
20:15:03BFDiscordBridge<Skybax> not me
20:26:18BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> :thoonc:
20:26:19BFDiscordBridge<Lamp> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/325743140059480065/767589418265083944/thoonc.png
23:06:35BFLogBot Pull request #638 opened by elementc | Title: Support linux snap packages. | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/pull/638
23:10:07BFLogBot Comment on issue #637 | User: elementc | Comment: Didn't get to appimage tonight, but polished up snap if you guys want it: https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/pull/ ... | https://github.com/bitfighter/bitfighter/issues/637#issuecomment-711627608
23:36:46BFDiscordBridge<sky_lark> I've changed it each month so new players know we're still around lol. Not sure if anyone else has

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