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| 09:53:29 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> WHAT |
| 09:53:55 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> they're basically saying they want to go bleeding edge, rolling-ish, and if that bothers you, go buy from redhat |
| 12:03:23 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> yes centos stream is absolutely NOT what centos was about. They even cancelled all 8 years of maintenance support from centos 8; it was supposed to be supported until 2029 or so, but now all support ends in december 2021! While centos 7 will still have all its support until 2024, ironically longer than centos 8. ridiculous. |
| 12:08:56 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> so centos users are going to have to switch platforms. there's oracle linux, which is a free rhel clone just like centos. or maybe rocky linux will take control. |
| 12:09:50 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> i'd go to openSUSE or Arch |
| 12:12:47 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> arch for a production server? |
| 12:13:06 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> it's a rolling release, no better than centos stream |
| 12:13:32 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> oh, i mean if i had to do rolling release |
| 12:13:43 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> i do not like ubuntu server |
| 12:13:55 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> openSUSE Leap has two year maintenance |
| 12:13:59 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> not sure about fedora |
| 12:13:59 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> hmm why not |
| 12:14:26 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> never been a fan of .deb distros, but I can use them if needed |
| 12:16:32 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> fedora maintains releases for one year |
| 12:20:23 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> everyone could just go to Windows subsystem for Linux! |
| 12:54:45 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> bruh |
| 16:57:14 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> I love the first comment on that post: "This is dumb. The entire premise and the only reason anyone uses CentOS is because it's rebuilt RHEL. Congratulations on undermining that, nitwits." |
| 17:22:46 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> lol ya |
| 17:46:27 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> lol someone made a website https://centos.rip/ |
| 17:50:18 | BFDiscordBridge | <Skybax> That is awesome |
| 18:10:33 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> @raptor our objType enums are messed up and none of them match anything |
| 18:10:51 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> say what |
| 18:11:19 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> let me test a levelgen in 021 |
| 18:11:37 | BFDiscordBridge | <Skybax> how dare those enums |
| 18:12:18 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> Oh wait don't test @raptor |
| 18:12:22 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> I may have overstated |
| 18:13:01 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> kk |
| 18:13:11 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> maybe we added some new objTypes to the middle of the enum list bumping everything up a number |
| 18:14:32 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> To be clear I can still use them for what I'm trying to do and they're consistent |
| 18:15:00 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> Its just that I am having to use divination (logprints in a test environment) to determine which enum goes to which object |
| 18:16:29 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> i don't understand what your problem |
| 18:16:31 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> is |
| 18:16:52 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> If you always just use the ObjType.LineItem or whatever, then it should be fine |
| 18:17:20 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> oh I think last time I tried that (in 019?) it didn't work so I am using just the number |
| 18:17:34 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> WHT |
| 18:17:37 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> WHAT |
| 18:17:42 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> never use the number |
| 18:17:47 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> it can change from version to version |
| 18:17:54 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> I have to use the number |
| 18:18:02 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> :getObjType() returns a number |
| 18:19:07 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> technically it is a number, yes, but the proper way to use it is to check it against the enum: if weirdVar:getObjType() == ObjType.LineItem .... |
| 18:21:00 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> oh well that works |
| 18:21:37 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> I'm not backtracing my scripts though who knows how many I've done this in rofl |
| 18:21:46 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> guess that identifies the problem though rofl |
| 18:22:18 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> heh |
| 18:22:48 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> You've been using the Weapon enum, though, right? |
| 18:22:58 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> will be important as a new weapon is being developed... |
| 18:23:01 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> haha |
| 18:23:05 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> so the numbers will change |
| 18:23:19 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> I think I've actually had to |
| 18:23:27 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> you can't pass numbers in to setLoadout |
| 18:23:33 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> it crashes |
| 18:23:37 | BFDiscordBridge | <bobdaduck> or something |
| 18:23:55 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> ah yeah, it takes a list |
| 18:34:32 | BFDiscordBridge | <Skybax> ono all bobs scripts are gonna bork |
| 18:57:06 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> please tell me you didn't use numbers in DnD |
| 18:58:26 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> actually i don't want to know |
| 19:14:42 | BFDiscordBridge | <Skybax> This is the story of how the levelgen emperor was brought to his knees by integers |
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| 20:17:26 | raptor | BFLogBot_: you still talking? |
| 20:17:26 | BFLogBot | I don't need to compromise my principles, because they don't have the slightest bearing on what happens to me anyway. -- Calvin |
| 20:17:27 | BFDiscordBridge | <Skybax> hi raptor |
| 20:18:07 | raptor | who's hosting this bridge again? |
| 20:18:15 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> Not me |
| 20:18:18 | BFDiscordBridge | <Skybax> lamp is our bridge wizard |
| 20:18:35 | BFDiscordBridge | <raptor> great! |
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| 21:52:53 | BFDiscordBridge | <Lamp> it ignore bf log bot |