RET - Mutiny - C. Bob - 6/10+ players - Asymmetrical

Fri Jun 11, 2010 6:47 am by C. Bob

Made in about five hours, for the last contest, to attempt to save it. Judging by the current forum layout, that obviously didn't work, so here it is. Its 'gametype twist' is not really original, but maybe you'll find it interesting. It's an asymmetrical map, so it isn't easily suitable for tournament play -- however, if you want to try anyway, you could play two games, with one team as the attacker and the other as the defender, then switch roles. The more successful team in both wins.

Code:: RetrieveGameType 10 8 LevelName Mutiny LevelDescription Capture or defend the goal zones LevelCredits Script GridSize 255 MinPlayers 6 MaxPlayers 10 Team Blue 0 0 1 Team Red 1 0 0 LoadoutZone 0 -1.4 6.6 -0.7 6.2 -0.7 8 -1.4 7.6 LoadoutZone 1 26 6.7 26.8 7.1 26.8 7.9 26 8.3 Spawn 0 -0.1 7.1 Spawn 0 -0.2 7.3 Spawn 0 -0.4 6.7 Spawn 0 -0.2 6.9 Spawn 0 -0.4 7.5 Spawn 1 25.9 7.9 Spawn 1 25.9 7.1 Spawn 1 25.9 8.3 Spawn 1 25.9 6.7 Spawn 1 25.9 7.5 RepairItem 22.5 15.5 20 RepairItem 22.5 -0.500001 20 BarrierMaker 50 6 21 12 21 16 17 23 17 23 14 16 14 15.5 7.5 16 1 23 1 23 -2 16 -2 12 -6 6 -6 0 0 0 5.6 -2.1 6.6 -2.1 7.6 0 8.6 0 15 6 21 BarrierMaker 50 13 14 16 14 BarrierMaker 50 12 1 16 1 BarrierMaker 50 7 10.5 7 10.5 BarrierMaker 50 7 3.5 7 3.5 BarrierMaker 1020 9 -1.1 9 16.1 BarrierMaker 50 3 10.5 7 10.5 BarrierMaker 50 4.5 -3.5 6.5 -1.5 BarrierMaker 50 3 3.5 7 3.5 BarrierMaker 50 24 6 24 6.8 25.6 7.5 24 8.2 24 9 25 9 27 8 27 7 25 6 24 6 BarrierMaker 50 4 2 4 1 5 0 6 0 BarrierMaker 50 4 12 4 13 5 14 6 14 BarrierMaker 50 11.5 12 13 9 13.5 8 13.5 6 12.5 4 11.5 3 BarrierMaker 50 12.5 6.5 11.5 6.5 11.5 7.5 12.5 7.5 BarrierMaker 1 12.5 6.9 12.3 6.9 12.3 7.1 12.5 7.1 BarrierMaker 50 6.5 9.1 5.5 9.1 4.5 8.1 4.5 6.1 5.5 5.1 6.5 5.1 BarrierMaker 50 5.5 6.6 6.5 6.6 6.5 7.6 5.5 7.6 BarrierMaker 1 5.5 7 5.7 7 5.7 7.2 5.5 7.2 BarrierMaker 255 21.5 15.5 14.5 15.5 BarrierMaker 50 12 15 13 15 13 16 12 16 BarrierMaker 1 12 15.4 12.2 15.4 12.2 15.6 12 15.6 BarrierMaker 50 12 -1 13 -1 13 -1.37091e-06 12 -1.37091e-06 BarrierMaker 1 12 -0.600001 12.2 -0.600001 12.2 -0.399999 12 -0.399999 BarrierMaker 50 12.5 -4 11.5 -5 6.5 -5 5.4 -3.9 BarrierMaker 255 21.5 -0.500001 14.5 -0.500001 BarrierMaker 50 12 13 13.5 11.5 14.5 8.5 14.5 7.5 BarrierMaker 50 12 2 13.5 3.5 14.5 6.5 14.5 7.5 BarrierMaker 50 13.5 14 15.5 8 BarrierMaker 50 13.5 1 15.5 7 BarrierMaker 50 12 -3 11 -4 7 -4 6 -3 BarrierMaker 50 9.5 -3 9.5 -2 8.5 -2 8.5 -3 BarrierMaker 1 9.1 -3 9.1 -2.8 8.9 -2.8 8.9 -3 BarrierMaker 50 11.5 -1.5 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Mon Jun 28, 2010 6:22 pm by C. Bob

Mutiny v3, with extra spybugs thrown in to help the defenders.

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Mon Jul 05, 2010 3:22 pm by ZoombeR

I love this map.
Is there any way to get that blue flag at the far right side of the map?

Tue Jul 06, 2010 5:00 pm by C. Bob

Nope.

Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:07 pm by karamazovapy

The fact that this map is unwinnable for one team ruins it for me. I don't see the point.

Tue Jul 13, 2010 7:18 am by C. Bob

Dear Bitfighter community,

I'm sorry to inform you that after playing my map, I discovered that _k may have had a point, and that it is impossible to win.

I'm sorry I never noticed this in the time that it took me to make the map, or the times that I play-tested it against sky_lark, bobdaduck, qui, and Furbuggy (did pretty well too, I think -- could beat most anyone I played against), or the time when I last edited it to make version 3 -- which incorporates spybugs.

The following pictures will show you the sad situation before us.

Both pictures here were graciously uploaded by ImageShack.us, my standard image hosting solution.

As you can see, these pictures show how technically impossible it is for one of the teams to win this map. I tried to find a way to do it, but it didn't work out.

It's all right, though, because it isn't a very good map anyway. Blue gets seven(!) zones at the very beginning of the map, but you can't even get their flags from them because they're behind invincible force fields...similarly, once red retrieves a flag, it's not possible to take it back. I don't know what I was thinking when I made this map and I don't recommend that any of you ever play it. If you already have it, get rid of it as soon as possible. I'll leave the text up here, as a memorial to incompetent mapmaking.

I know, it's a shame that we have another bad Retrieve map. All I can say is that I'm sorry; go play Law of Fives, because this one is awful and bugged.

[/sarcasm]

Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:39 am by sky_lark

Ahh... ah.

Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:11 pm by karamazovapy

I know you're proud of your map, but you know what I mean. One team plays the entire game with the goal of running down the clock. There's nothing they can do to end the game sooner, and the only way they can win is by delaying the entire game.

I didn't say it was a bad map, just that it doesn't do it for me.

Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:23 pm by C. Bob

Winning is more than just getting kills or scoring points. Defense plays a role in BF too -- it just happens that this map exclusively tests one particular team's defensive abilities, and the other team's offense, instead of allowing for a symmetric balance, as in other maps.

At the end of the game, if it says that a team won, they did; it doesn't matter if they did it by staying one point above the other team (like Blue) or by getting the max number of points (like Red).

It's well and fine to say that you personally don't like it, but to classify it as being "unwinnable" when it clearly is (and when you yourself can elaborate on the mechanism for victory) is misleading, unnecessary, and unfair to the map's reputation.

Tue Jul 13, 2010 12:51 pm by karamazovapy

After the first second of the game, there's nothing proactive the blue team can do. They're no longer playing to win, they're playing to not-lose.

C. Bob wrote:Winning is more than just getting kills or scoring points.
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At the end of the game, if it says that a team won, they did;

The team that's ahead at the end of the game wins; that's undeniable. As it stands, I think the first statement is more important. Winning is more than just getting kills or scoring points. Even if the scoreboard says blue wins this one, it was miserable.

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