The S_Bot improvement thread

[raptor]

S_Bot

You love it. You hate it (more likely). You always lose dogfights with it (OK maybe just me).

Let's make S_Bot better.

Please post here any bugs you've found, as well as reasonable improvements you'd like to see implemented for our beloved standard bot.

1 .bots shoot there own teams spy bugs.

Prioritize s_bots to actually return their team's flag once the carrier has been destroyed. Too many times a bot will kill me while I have the flag, but not return it, so I can just fly back and pick it up again.

S_Bot

You love it. You hate it (more likely). You always lose dogfights with it (OK maybe just me).

Let's make S_Bot better.

Please post here any bugs you've found, as well as reasonable improvements you'd like to see implemented for our beloved standard bot.

1. Bots use shield even when team player shoots it (probably not possible to remove, though)
2. Make S_bot shoot closest force fields after they tried to move for 4 seconds, like a timeout (to make bots not be stuck behind force field when there is an enemy or flag behind it)

make s_bot return flags to the nexus only if it has the most flags if not target the person with the most flags.

See if you can encourage bots to shield themselves when an enemy fires burst from a distance. They do it with phasers but not burst. This isn't a priority but it would likely increase their life span.

1. bots don't shield themselves if the shots are friendly fire (same team.)
2. bots will intentionally take teles but only if it brings them closer to there goal.

[raptor]

amgine,

Please explain your #2 a little better. Thanks.

what i meant is for example in ctf if taking the tele would bring the bot closer to the flag (or in then going around it will take it.)

also a idea have S_bot target the person in 1st in Bitmatch and Nexus modes (or target the person with the most flags in Nexus mode.)

[watusimoto]

If the bot is going from A to B, and a teleporter will make that trip shorter, the bot should be smart enough to take it. It's been years since I actually tested that, though.

Yes it works say on mazerunner but not as much on other maps.....

[Little_Apple]

bots cant quite grasp the concept of teleporting into walls.

Here: I repaired most bugs of S_Bot: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=1902

[raptor]

OK, thanks to Fordcars the following has been fixed:

1. Bots shielding with friendly fire
2. Bots not returning the friendly flag if the enemy carrier nearby is killed

That leaves:

1. Forcefield problems (this may be tricky)
2. Nexus AI improvements?
3. Bots on walls issues (this will require codebase changes)
4. Other?

[Little_Apple]

bots shoot their own forcefields in one team bitmatch.

Force fields don't show up as obstacle in getFiringSolution(obj).
This causes the common "Bot stuck on Force Field" problem.

1 .bots shoot there own teams spy bugs.

Same with forceifelds (and turrets maybe)

[raptor]

More fixes are in:

- Bots don't shoot FFs/Turrets in single-team games
- Bots are a bit smarter with Nexus (we hope)

Thanks again Fordcars

I wonder if bots could begin using other weapons and modules? This might be too much for what you're looking for right now, but it'd be pretty cool to see bots begin utilizing bouncers and triple and cloak, even if slightly less effective than phaser and shield.

Maybe repair would be possible, or boost, or maybe even engeneer...

Perhaps, but I imagine those modules would require bots to have a "thought process" to determine the best locations for engineering or repairing items. Same would go for sensor. I think cloaking could work if the bots used it passively without any respect to using it strategically; that is, a cloaking bot would just cloak until it ran out of energy or died instead of cloaking at strategic times.

While a passively cloaking bot would not be as effective as a strategically cloaking player, I think they could still be damn terrifying to fight against.

yeah. For example: if the bot has more than 3/4 of energy and there is a repairable item close to it, repair item

Meh, I will see if I can make bots *********think********* to use modules