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| 00:00:00 | raptor | yeah actually... |
| 00:00:00 | karamazovapy | seems like it to me. not that we have so many people hosting dedicated servers, for the time being |
| 00:05:00 | | watusimoto has joined |
| 00:06:00 | raptor | i am going to properly create an easy way to build this, then check it in |
| 00:11:00 | sam686 | i join kserv.bot, then when i leave the server died , probably means one of a map is crashing the server.. |
| 00:17:00 | karamazovapy | very possible |
| 00:20:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: i need your server up so I can ping it again |
| 00:21:00 | | watusimoto1 has joined |
| 00:24:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: on your vps, type 'mail' and make sure there is a local mail program |
| 00:24:00 | karamazovapy | server is up (206.217.217.165) |
| 00:24:00 | raptor | it works! |
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| 00:25:00 | karamazovapy | hm. No mail for root |
| 00:25:00 | raptor | great! |
| 00:25:00 | raptor | then it's there |
| 00:25:00 | karamazovapy | uh...awesome! |
| 00:25:00 | karamazovapy | haha |
| 00:26:00 | sam686 | there still a map in kserv.bot causing a crash. |
| 00:27:00 | watusimoto1 | ok, got past my latest editor hurdle... finally impelemtng point items in editor |
| 00:28:00 | raptor | hooray! |
| 00:31:00 | sam686 | kserv.bots crash while loading catacombs.. maybe the bots are crashing the server? |
| 00:33:00 | karamazovapy | weird...I had a really basic level crashing my server for some reason |
| 00:35:00 | karamazovapy | UGH...my chat is missing in bitfighter again... |
| 00:35:00 | raptor | what |
| 00:35:00 | raptor | weird |
| 00:35:00 | karamazovapy | yeah. it's not like I've reinstalled it or anything |
| 00:35:00 | karamazovapy | maybe I've re-weirded my ini |
| 00:35:00 | raptor | i have the utility ready for you |
| 00:35:00 | raptor | http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=e1b97aec80982b5b651251f0e403012fc9af3d2d |
| 00:36:00 | karamazovapy | how do I acquire this from my vps? |
| 00:36:00 | karamazovapy | hg somethingsomething something |
| 00:37:00 | raptor | run 'hg pull -u' |
| 00:37:00 | raptor | then go into the tnlping/ directory |
| 00:37:00 | raptor | and run 'make' |
| 00:38:00 | karamazovapy | done |
| 00:38:00 | karamazovapy | now what do I actually have to run? |
| 00:38:00 | raptor | is there a file in there called 'tnlping' |
| 00:38:00 | raptor | ? |
| 00:38:00 | karamazovapy | tnlping.cpp, tnlping.o |
| 00:38:00 | karamazovapy | oh, and tnlping |
| 00:38:00 | karamazovapy | it was green |
| 00:38:00 | raptor | ok phoew |
| 00:39:00 | raptor | now run this: ./tnlping 206.217.217.165:28000 |
| 00:39:00 | raptor | works? |
| 00:39:00 | raptor | that should be your IP and port that the server runs on |
| 00:40:00 | karamazovapy | it works, for what it is |
| 00:40:00 | raptor | great |
| 00:40:00 | raptor | now to install the script |
| 00:40:00 | karamazovapy | TNL Service is UP (pingtime = 35) |
| 00:40:00 | raptor | excellent |
| 00:40:00 | raptor | ok, now copy 'tnlping' and 'check_bitfighter_server_status.sh' to /root/bin |
| 00:43:00 | raptor | good? |
| 00:43:00 | karamazovapy | okay. although curiously, I didn't have a /bin folder |
| 00:43:00 | raptor | oh |
| 00:43:00 | raptor | weird |
| 00:43:00 | raptor | ok |
| 00:44:00 | karamazovapy | didn't have anything "normal" in my /root directory |
| 00:44:00 | raptor | now you need to edit the /root/bin/check_bitfighter_server_status.sh |
| 00:44:00 | raptor | do you know how to edit files on linux command line? |
| 00:44:00 | raptor | (if that's what you are using) |
| 00:44:00 | karamazovapy | oh - wait - are you talking root root or "root" |
| 00:44:00 | raptor | the user root in folder '/root/bin' |
| 00:45:00 | karamazovapy | oh, okay |
| 00:45:00 | karamazovapy | because I have ~/root/bitfighter |
| 00:45:00 | karamazovapy | and ~/bin |
| 00:45:00 | raptor | yeah, not those |
| 00:45:00 | raptor | if you are user root, then '~/bin' means '/root/bin' |
| 00:46:00 | karamazovapy | so I thought, but there was a folder called root, so I went with it |
| 00:46:00 | raptor | ready to edit the file? |
| 00:47:00 | karamazovapy | ready ready |
| 00:47:00 | raptor | what program do you use to edit it? |
| 00:47:00 | karamazovapy | I need to change server, to... |
| 00:48:00 | raptor | do you know how to use 'vi'? |
| 00:48:00 | raptor | because you might have to for this... |
| 00:49:00 | karamazovapy | I think I'm okay - the only remaining issue for me is whether I need to upload a notified.txt file |
| 00:49:00 | raptor | nope |
| 00:49:00 | raptor | it is a tricky truco.. |
| 00:49:00 | raptor | it creates it on the fly if there is a problem |
| 00:50:00 | karamazovapy | well then I think I'm good |
| 00:50:00 | raptor | then next time it checks the server, if it sees a notified.txt it won't notify again |
| 00:50:00 | raptor | ok |
| 00:50:00 | karamazovapy | server="IP:206.217.217.165:28000" |
| 00:50:00 | raptor | now to automatically run it |
| 00:50:00 | karamazovapy | sendoncefile="/root/bin/notified.txt" |
| 00:50:00 | raptor | good |
| 00:50:00 | raptor | do you know about the crontab? |
| 00:50:00 | karamazovapy | I do not |
| 00:51:00 | raptor | ok, this is a bit tricky: you can only add to the crontab on the server itself |
| 00:51:00 | raptor | as root type 'crontab -e' |
| 00:51:00 | raptor | it should open a blank file (let me know if it does) |
| 00:51:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, it did |
| 00:51:00 | karamazovapy | using an empty one |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | ok, press 'i' (the letter 'eye') |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | it shoud say 'insert' somewhere on the screen |
| 00:52:00 | karamazovapy | -- INSERT -- |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | excellent, now add on one line: |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | MAILTO="" |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | then below it on another line, add: |
| 00:52:00 | raptor | */10 * * * * /root/bin/check_bitfighter_server_status.sh |
| 00:53:00 | raptor | that checks the server every 10 minutes |
| 00:53:00 | sam686 | kserv.bot having problem with CATACOMBS map, it is blank with only a nexus zone |
| 00:53:00 | raptor | when you're done editing press 'ESC' |
| 00:53:00 | raptor | <escap> |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | the escape button - INSERT should go away |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | then press: ':wq' (colon-double-you-queue) |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | and press enter |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | it should save and quite |
| 00:54:00 | raptor | quit |
| 01:00:00 | karamazovapy | Error loading lua helper functions scripts/lua_helper_functions.lua: cannot open scripts/lua_helper_functions.lua: No such file or directory. Can't run levelgen script... |
| 01:00:00 | raptor | wait, what? does that have to do with the checker script? |
| 01:00:00 | raptor | oh - you areasnwering sam |
| 01:00:00 | karamazovapy | no - different problem |
| 01:02:00 | sam686 | you may need to copy /resource/scripts to /exe/scripts ... probably the update to HG might have delete that /exe/scripts |
| 01:04:00 | raptor | oh crud |
| 01:04:00 | raptor | yeah |
| 01:04:00 | raptor | it did |
| 01:04:00 | raptor | run 'hg up bitfighter-015a' to restore it |
| 01:05:00 | karamazovapy | fixed |
| 01:05:00 | karamazovapy | I hadn't even noticed, but yeah, it erased my bots and scripts directories |
| 01:29:00 | raptor | sorry about that - i should have given warning about that |
| 01:36:00 | sam686 | i will go, night... |
| 01:37:00 | raptor | night |
| 01:39:00 | watusimoto1 | good nigt |
| 01:39:00 | raptor | ok, i have some sound working and some not... |
| 01:39:00 | raptor | weird |
| 01:52:00 | raptor | so only the menu boop and the flag capture sound work |
| 01:52:00 | raptor | goofy |
| 02:00:00 | watusimoto1 | short v long? |
| 02:00:00 | | zoomber has joined |
| 02:00:00 | raptor | yes |
| 02:01:00 | raptor | ah... |
| 02:01:00 | raptor | wait what? |
| 02:01:00 | zoomber | hey |
| 02:01:00 | raptor | hi zoomber |
| 02:01:00 | raptor | have you found an IRC client that does what you want? |
| 02:02:00 | zoomber | looks like when I had that virus a while ago, i got rid of the head, but the rest of it left my computer permanently damaged. Just tried running my computer and it cant start up even in safe mode |
| 02:02:00 | zoomber | cant pass windows logo, so it looks like i have to find an install cd |
| 02:02:00 | zoomber | oh, and yes, i have a great irc client |
| 02:02:00 | raptor | oh good |
| 02:02:00 | zoomber | only thing i miss is being able to click "yesterday" and seeing what everyone said |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | !help |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | !log |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | !commands |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | lol? |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | !airlock |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | !bbb |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | i programmed it last night... |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | !watusimoto |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | !zoomber |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | hehe |
| 02:03:00 | zoomber | i am undefined |
| 02:04:00 | raptor | sorry, didn't come up with one for you.. |
| 02:04:00 | zoomber | lol its fine |
| 02:04:00 | zoomber | i meant im undefined like 8 divided by 0 |
| 02:06:00 | watusimoto1 | I just placed a flag in th eeditor!!! |
| 02:06:00 | zoomber | lol..? |
| 02:06:00 | raptor | woo hoo! |
| 02:07:00 | zoomber | wait.. |
| 02:07:00 | zoomber | first time? |
| 02:07:00 | watusimoto1 | yes |
| 02:07:00 | zoomber | congradulations :p |
| 02:07:00 | watusimoto1 | still needs fixing, but it's proof the new object model can work |
| 02:13:00 | zoomber | kk |
| 02:19:00 | zoomber | anyone know a way to get something off my hard drive without running my o.s.? I cant take out the hard drive and put it in another computer b/c i have only 1 desktop |
| 02:19:00 | zoomber | if not..ill probably just try to retrieve my information |
| 02:20:00 | raptor | yes, use a rescue CD |
| 02:20:00 | raptor | sysresccd.org |
| 02:20:00 | zoomber | its an 8GB program |
| 02:20:00 | zoomber | i may just reinstall |
| 02:21:00 | raptor | is a really good one, although it is a linux rescue disk with many advanced programs |
| 02:21:00 | zoomber | i may just reinstall so i kill 100% chances of a virus being hidden in a corrupted executable |
| 02:21:00 | raptor | good idea |
| 02:23:00 | zoomber | hmmm, i bet installing bootcamp drivers on my computer may have messed up the partition identification |
| 02:23:00 | zoomber | the hard disk's name is now BOOTCAMP |
| 02:23:00 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 02:24:00 | raptor | you're in deep now... |
| 02:24:00 | zoomber | i did this, along with many other strides to try and get my apple wireless keyboard to work |
| 02:24:00 | zoomber | well....i got my wireless keyboard to work...:) |
| 02:25:00 | zoomber | however..i thought it wouldn't matter much, as most of the drivers in my IBM machiene are the same for my mac |
| 02:25:00 | zoomber | like an intel graphics media accelerator chipset and a marvel ethernet connection |
| 02:29:00 | zoomber | im so proud of my self. i finally got the guts to just delete and reformat the whole partition |
| 02:29:00 | raptor | hooray! |
| 02:32:00 | raptor | what would you name the property of something if it is affected by distance |
| 02:32:00 | zoomber | dang....windows loads so fast now...showed the windows logo for less than 2 seconds and already went to setup screen |
| 02:32:00 | zoomber | what would I name a quality of a *thing*, that is affected by the measurement of distance? |
| 02:33:00 | raptor | or its distance to something |
| 02:33:00 | raptor | yes |
| 02:33:00 | zoomber | displacement? |
| 02:34:00 | zoomber | interesting...my irc client allows me to log on with this nickname, even if I havent responded to an identify notification |
| 02:34:00 | raptor | yeah, IRC servers default to that |
| 02:34:00 | watusimoto1 | what's an example of the thing you are talking about? |
| 02:34:00 | raptor | super open |
| 02:35:00 | zoomber | yeah |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | trying to come up with a variable name |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | when a sound is affected by the distance from it |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | perceived sound |
| 02:35:00 | watusimoto1 | is it a boolean? |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | is |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | yes |
| 02:35:00 | watusimoto1 | i.e. is the sound affected by dist? |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | yes |
| 02:35:00 | raptor | that |
| 02:36:00 | watusimoto1 | I see |
| 02:36:00 | zoomber | oh |
| 02:36:00 | zoomber | errr.now i have to get a wired mouse |
| 02:36:00 | watusimoto1 | there's always isQuieterWhenFurther |
| 02:36:00 | raptor | isDopplered ? |
| 02:36:00 | raptor | haha |
| 02:36:00 | raptor | i like it |
| 02:36:00 | zoomber | oh wait, my wireless mouse still works because its awireles usb |
| 02:36:00 | watusimoto1 | doppler is a fn of velocity |
| 02:36:00 | raptor | oh yeah, duh |
| 02:37:00 | watusimoto1 | well, I'm not coming up with any other great ones... clumsy as it my suggestion is, it is also crystal clear what it means |
| 02:37:00 | watusimoto1 | and there's something to be said for that |
| 02:37:00 | raptor | yep |
| 02:37:00 | zoomber | i have one for you |
| 02:37:00 | watusimoto1 | better than isDistancable |
| 02:37:00 | raptor | hhahaha |
| 02:37:00 | zoomber | what is orange, and sounds like a parrot |
| 02:37:00 | watusimoto1 | or somesuch |
| 02:38:00 | watusimoto1 | a parrot |
| 02:38:00 | zoomber | oh, i think i already said this one |
| 02:38:00 | watusimoto1 | you or somebody |
| 02:38:00 | watusimoto1 | heard it about a month ago |
| 02:38:00 | zoomber | yeah, i remember now. you replied with "your mother!" |
| 02:39:00 | watusimoto1 | oh yes |
| 02:39:00 | watusimoto1 | your mother |
| 02:40:00 | watusimoto1 | that one never gets old |
| 02:40:00 | zoomber | it was a carrot actually |
| 02:40:00 | watusimoto1 | an old Lemonheads song I really liked in high school talks about rabbits and carrots |
| 02:40:00 | watusimoto1 | it's called rabbit |
| 02:40:00 | zoomber | lol |
| 02:42:00 | raptor | ok how about the property of a sound to be the same at any distance? |
| 02:43:00 | raptor | isStaticMagnitude |
| 02:43:00 | zoomber | run magnets everywhere, throw down a blanket of copper wire |
| 02:43:00 | zoomber | and connect your ipod to the copper wire |
| 02:43:00 | zoomber | then you get sound everywhere, same volume |
| 02:45:00 | watusimoto1 | volumeVariesWithDistance() |
| 02:45:00 | watusimoto1 | volDependsOnDist() |
| 02:45:00 | raptor | excellent |
| 02:46:00 | watusimoto1 | of course isQuieterWhenFurther has the advantage of being an "is" name |
| 02:46:00 | raptor | hasAdjustableGain |
| 02:46:00 | watusimoto1 | isLouderWhenCloser |
| 02:46:00 | raptor | alwaysLoud |
| 02:46:00 | watusimoto1 | notAlwaysLoud |
| 02:46:00 | watusimoto1 | isSometimesLouderThanOtherTimes |
| 02:47:00 | raptor | stop making me laugh |
| 02:47:00 | raptor | :] |
| 02:47:00 | watusimoto1 | I was being serious! |
| 02:47:00 | watusimoto1 | well, not totally |
| 02:48:00 | zoomber | windows has absolutely no support for drivers ..sigh |
| 02:48:00 | zoomber | this means i have to go on ibm to search for a network driver. put it on a cd, burn it... |
| 02:48:00 | raptor | didn't i show you where to get that once? |
| 02:49:00 | zoomber | yeah. i know where to get it. |
| 02:50:00 | watusimoto1 | watch this one full screen: http://vimeo.com/9970489 |
| 02:50:00 | zoomber | my computer just has absolutely no drivers now, so ill have to burn a cd just to get it on my ibm computer |
| 02:50:00 | zoomber | unless i get lucky with a flash drive |
| 02:51:00 | watusimoto1 | I think the best name proposed is isLouderWhenCloser() but that's just my opinion |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | wow, that was crazy |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | my brother used to do that |
| 02:57:00 | watusimoto1 | totally crazy |
| 02:58:00 | raptor | ok, all the sounds are working, but certain sounds are waaaay louder than others.. |
| 03:01:00 | raptor | i'm an idiot |
| 03:01:00 | raptor | i didn't realize each sound has a 'gain scale' and is loaded with it |
| 03:08:00 | watusimoto1 | can you query that instead of keeping a separate boolean? |
| 03:09:00 | zoomber | interesting. in the total of 12 hours spread over 3 days it took me to get my apple wireless keybaord to work, on a new install, i was able to get it to work in one try |
| 03:09:00 | raptor | that boolean is set up for each sound effect profile |
| 03:10:00 | raptor | i was just trying to make understanding the code easier for the future |
| 03:10:00 | watusimoto1 | always smart |
| 03:22:00 | zoomber | dont forget to take breaks :) |
| 03:22:00 | raptor | argh! |
| 03:22:00 | raptor | i can't figure out why the gain is being set so low on some files... |
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| 03:35:00 | raptor | solved it |
| 03:35:00 | raptor | alDistanceModel(AL_NONE); |
| 03:35:00 | raptor | i was missing that by accident |
| 03:35:00 | raptor | weird |
| 03:38:00 | watusimoto1 | good |
| 04:32:00 | raptor | night |
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| 17:15:00 | karamazovapy | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=697 |
| 17:15:00 | karamazovapy | ABFL Draft Begins! |
| 17:16:00 | raptor | neat |
| 17:20:00 | karamazovapy | <watusimoto1> watch this one full screen: http://vimeo.com/9970489 |
| 17:20:00 | karamazovapy | now that's a sport...the whole time I was just thinking 'fuckfuckfuck' |
| 17:21:00 | karamazovapy | I like when the tape leads him right into walls |
| 17:21:00 | karamazovapy | oh, and the dog that wanders into his path |
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| 20:04:00 | raptor | so is apple dropping PPC support? |
| 20:04:00 | raptor | because I just updated Xcode, and now all my products only compile for Intel |
| 20:05:00 | raptor | did you notice this koda? |
| 20:05:00 | koda | yes xcode4 doesn't support ppc |
| 20:05:00 | koda | neither does lion or the macappstore |
| 20:13:00 | raptor | i updated to 3.2.6 |
| 20:13:00 | raptor | punks |
| 20:23:00 | raptor | ok, back to 3.2.2 |
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| 20:39:00 | koda | :D |
| 20:39:00 | koda | 3.2.6 is fine |
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| 21:49:00 | raptor | what is a window system #define I can specify within code? |
| 21:49:00 | raptor | something that doesn't require tnl |
| 21:51:00 | sam686 | #ifdef win32 ? |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | is it WIN32 or __WIN32__ or _WIN32? |
| 21:51:00 | sam686 | #elif defined(__WIN32__) || defined(_WIN32) || defined(__CYGWIN__) |
| 21:51:00 | sam686 | # define TNL_OS_STRING "Win32" |
| 21:51:00 | sam686 | # define TNL_OS_WIN32 |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:51:00 | raptor | good |
| 21:52:00 | raptor | i'll do the OR statement |
| 22:01:00 | raptor | i am building ALURE on windows |
| 22:02:00 | raptor | what does 'definition of dllimport function not allowed' mean? |
| 22:07:00 | sam686 | i don't know much about DLL import stuff... |
| 22:07:00 | raptor | never created a DLL in windows before... |
| 22:12:00 | raptor | where in vc++ do you specify compile time switches? |
| 22:14:00 | raptor | i think i found it |
| 22:14:00 | sam686 | not sure, probably in Project, build, for any configuration.. |
| 22:14:00 | raptor | preprocessor definitions |
| 22:14:00 | sam686 | oh ok, specify #define switches... |
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| 23:52:00 | Helmic | Poke. |