Timestamps are in GMT/BST.
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| 01:40:00 | raptor | good evening |
| 01:41:00 | sam686 | good night? |
| 01:41:00 | raptor | as in.. hello |
| 01:41:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 01:44:00 | raptor | i'm reading OpenAL tutorials to get ideas on creating a simpler and efficient sound system |
| 01:44:00 | raptor | that can incorporate sfx, music, and voice chat |
| 01:55:00 | sam686 | if the logbot is in GMT, then maybe the hours could be way off in the server where logbot is running.. Synchronize time may not work when it is more then a few hours off... |
| 01:56:00 | raptor | the server is STILL 13 min. behind, too |
| 01:56:00 | sam686 | logbot clock is still 13 minutes off, and possibly a few hours off.. |
| 01:56:00 | raptor | its on EDT |
| 01:56:00 | raptor | probably should be GMT |
| 01:57:00 | sam686 | maybe the time synchronizer attemps to synchronize in GMT.. |
| 01:57:00 | raptor | i see two problems - the 13 min, and the non-GMT time |
| 01:57:00 | raptor | i think i can fix the second |
| 01:59:00 | sam686 | my clock is GMT - 5 hours for central daylight time in (summer), and GMT - 6 hours for Central Standard Time (winter) |
| 01:59:00 | raptor | mine is -6 and -7 |
| 02:00:00 | sam686 | mine is in Daylight time , so for me, it is GMT - 5 hours. |
| 02:00:00 | sam686 | my current clock shows 12:13 PM |
| 02:01:00 | sam686 | The clock in this server http://www.worldtimeserver.com/current_time_in_UTC.aspx shows 5:13 AM. |
| 02:03:00 | sam686 | was the logbot not able to see my commit? Make team bitmatch negative socre when suicide / team kill, don't send c2sVoiceChat when sendBuffer |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | that's weird |
| 02:03:00 | sam686 | it shows here. http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/list |
| 02:03:00 | raptor | !bot |
| 02:03:00 | BitfighterLogBot | I'm a real boy! |
| 02:04:00 | raptor | yeah, it should have seen that... |
| 02:04:00 | raptor | maybe i'll se tup logging, too |
| 02:06:00 | sam686 | is the check google code intervals set to 60 minutes instead of 10? |
| 02:06:00 | raptor | no, it's there: http://code.google.com/feeds/p/bitfighter/hgchanges/basic |
| 02:06:00 | raptor | oh wrong answer to your question |
| 02:06:00 | raptor | it should be 10 min. |
| 02:07:00 | raptor | you can take a look a tthe source here: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/browse/?repo=tools#hg%2FBitfighterLogBot%2Fsrc%2Forg%2Fbitfighter%2Flogbot |
| 02:08:00 | raptor | it's not too pretty |
| 02:09:00 | raptor | i copied most of the code from a generic logbot from jibble.org |
| 02:09:00 | raptor | been slowly cleaning it up |
| 02:09:00 | sam686 | did logbot throw exception and points stack trace? |
| 02:10:00 | sam686 | did it print stack trace? |
| 02:10:00 | raptor | it might be doing that... |
| 02:10:00 | raptor | but i don't know since i didn't pipe the output into a log file |
| 02:10:00 | raptor | i'm going to add the GMT thing real quick, then adjust it to do that. |
| 02:10:00 | sam686 | you should make it log stack trace.. |
| 02:16:00 | raptor | yes, i will |
| 02:19:00 | raptor | ok got GMT working |
| 02:20:00 | sam686 | its still 13 minutes off in logbots.. |
| 02:20:00 | raptor | yeah... that's the game server server's fault |
| 02:20:00 | raptor | not sure hwo to fix yet.. |
| 02:20:00 | sam686 | change clock in server? |
| 02:21:00 | raptor | i can do that... |
| 02:21:00 | raptor | i think |
| 02:21:00 | raptor | but it may go back |
| 02:22:00 | sam686 | do you know weather the synchronize time failed for completed? |
| 02:22:00 | raptor | actually the clock is 47 min. ahead according to the NTP server |
| 02:30:00 | sam686 | in BitfighterLogBot, should properly indicate which time zone it is... Timestamps are (not?) in GMT/BST |
| 02:31:00 | raptor | ha! |
| 02:31:00 | raptor | didn't see that.. |
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| 06:41:00 | raptor | hooray its reallt GMT now |
| 06:41:00 | raptor | + 47 min |
| 06:41:00 | raptor | ok now to change the server date |
| 06:42:00 | sam686 | i got a simple php clock going in GMT, http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/clock.php source: http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/clock.php.txt |
| 06:43:00 | raptor | sweet! |
| 06:45:00 | raptor | test |
| 06:45:00 | raptor | rats still 13 min. off |
| 06:45:00 | raptor | sorry 47 |
| 06:46:00 | sam686 | also try putting simple clock .php in game server and check what it outputs as a clock.. |
| 06:46:00 | raptor | good idea |
| 06:47:00 | raptor | 6:46:55 |
| 06:47:00 | sam686 | my computer GMT is 5:59:33 |
| 06:47:00 | sam686 | so, 47 minutes apart.. |
| 06:49:00 | sam686 | how hard is it to change the system clock to correct 47 minutes ahead? should be easy? |
| 06:59:00 | sam686 | bye, will go to bed. |
| 06:59:00 | raptor | good night |
| 06:23:00 | raptor | i got it! |
| 06:23:00 | raptor | ha! |
| 06:24:00 | raptor | it was because it is a XEN virtual machine and the host was controlling the time |
| 06:27:00 | raptor | we just time traveled 17 minutes into the past.. |
| 06:29:00 | raptor | 47 |
| 06:31:00 | raptor | !bot |
| 06:31:00 | BitfighterLogBot | I'm a real boy! |
| 06:52:00 | raptor | good night |
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| 06:55:00 | watusimoto | are you thinking we will do another 015 release? |
| 06:55:00 | watusimoto | I think we're done, don't need to worry about compatibility |
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| 14:19:00 | raptor | sam686: what made you choose 1024 as a packet cutoff size? |
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| 16:11:00 | watusimoto | ok, got lineItems working... a minor item to be sure, but essentially the same as walls |
| 16:11:00 | watusimoto | and I fixed an annoying display bug with polygons |
| 16:11:00 | watusimoto | so... still progressing |
| 16:12:00 | raptor | yes! |
| 16:12:00 | watusimoto | and I have a new idea for resolving these chronic class conflicts I've been having |
| 16:12:00 | watusimoto | I may be able to separate the geometry from the other characteristics by creating a series of delegate geomtry classes |
| 16:12:00 | watusimoto | but I'm not going to try that until I've got things working enough to check in |
| 16:13:00 | watusimoto | because that will be another refactor |
| 16:13:00 | watusimoto | so... what's left? walls, turrets, forcefields, soccerballs (easy) and a little rote cleanup on goal zones and nexii |
| 16:14:00 | watusimoto | so... that's the current status |
| 16:14:00 | raptor | excellent |
| 16:14:00 | raptor | then the merge... |
| 16:14:00 | watusimoto | I'm hoping that most of the wall logic used in the previous version will still work, so I hope I can get it working without too much work |
| 16:14:00 | watusimoto | and that turrets and ffs will fall into place |
| 16:15:00 | watusimoto | we'll see. |
| 16:15:00 | watusimoto | off to work |
| 16:15:00 | raptor | bye |
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| 19:35:00 | karamazovapy | awfully warm today |
| 19:36:00 | Helmic | that it is |
| 19:37:00 | Helmic | had the first instance of testicles sticking to the side of my leg this year. means it's about summertime. |
| 19:37:00 | karamazovapy | that's a colorful depiction of heat |
| 19:39:00 | Helmic | I like being specific. |
| 19:39:00 | Helmic | Or intentionally vague. |
| 19:39:00 | karamazovapy | I guess we have practice before too long... |
| 19:40:00 | Helmic | Have work early in the morning tomorrow. |
| 19:40:00 | Helmic | Though Saturday evening past six I'm free. |
| 19:40:00 | karamazovapy | well practice is in an hour twenty |
| 19:40:00 | Helmic | which coincides perfectly for when I'm to show up at work. |
| 19:40:00 | karamazovapy | ah |
| 19:41:00 | Helmic | Who's going to that practice? |
| 19:41:00 | karamazovapy | no idea |
| 19:41:00 | Helmic | srsface |
| 19:41:00 | karamazovapy | I guess I'll show up if I'm not doing something else |
| 19:41:00 | Helmic | Did he pick that time for ShadowX? |
| 19:41:00 | karamazovapy | I taught highschool and middle school today, and I've already mowed the lawn |
| 19:41:00 | karamazovapy | not sure who he picked it for |
| 19:42:00 | karamazovapy | I catch a little info here, a little there, but never all of it |
| 19:42:00 | Helmic | You can't just pick 'em at random. Gotta pick times so that everyone has a chance to get practices in. |
| 19:42:00 | Helmic | feels like there's a huge communication hurdle. |
| 19:43:00 | karamazovapy | post in the subforum about it |
| 19:43:00 | karamazovapy | say you're frustrated |
| 19:43:00 | karamazovapy | furbuggy is on skype a fair amount - you could also catch him there |
| 19:47:00 | Helmic | can't get skype to work. |
| 19:47:00 | Helmic | also haven't gotten anyone's IM's. This is where we end up talking the most. |
| 19:47:00 | raptor | FYI: you can always invent a chatroom on IRC |
| 19:47:00 | karamazovapy | I don't use aim |
| 19:47:00 | karamazovapy | or msn |
| 19:47:00 | raptor | like #crazyBitfighters |
| 19:48:00 | raptor | if you're the first there, it's your channel for time being |
| 19:48:00 | raptor | and you can invite anyone else there |
| 19:48:00 | Helmic | Yeah, but most people don't idle in the official IRC all day. |
| 19:48:00 | Helmic | issue is being able to get ahold of each other. |
| 19:48:00 | raptor | ah |
| 19:48:00 | raptor | true |
| 19:48:00 | karamazovapy | well we do have team PMs and a private subforum |
| 19:49:00 | karamazovapy | you're welcome to send a group message or start a thread |
| 19:49:00 | Helmic | Don't think anyone gets email notifications, though, and you're lucky if you get a response within 24 hours. |
| 19:49:00 | Helmic | Plus it seems dudesteve and cracatoa aren't really active forumgoers. |
| 19:50:00 | karamazovapy | dudesteve hasn't been much of an active anything |
| 19:50:00 | karamazovapy | cracatoa has been pretty active in the past |
| 19:50:00 | karamazovapy | but a lot of our members are young |
| 19:50:00 | karamazovapy | like...tweens young |
| 19:50:00 | Helmic | meaning they are usually free about the same times. |
| 19:50:00 | Helmic | after school hours. |
| 19:51:00 | karamazovapy | meaning they don't have control over their own lives |
| 19:51:00 | Helmic | No, but they generally have more free time. |
| 19:51:00 | karamazovapy | and they have after school activities and bus rides and parents who pick them up |
| 19:51:00 | karamazovapy | I think furbuggy's a college freshman |
| 19:51:00 | karamazovapy | just got furb on skype - he says he's going to talk to you about scheduling practices |
| 19:52:00 | Helmic | tell him to add me on AIM |
| 19:52:00 | karamazovapy | message delivered |
| 19:53:00 | Helmic | 364335198, it's an ICQ number, it works with AIM. |
| 19:55:00 | karamazovapy | oh god, ICQ...I haven't used that since forever |
| 19:55:00 | raptor | i remember using ICQ to open your buddies cdrom tray |
| 19:56:00 | karamazovapy | furbuggy is Holesomebovine on AIM |
| 19:56:00 | karamazovapy | he's never seen you on |
| 19:56:00 | Helmic | I'm not getting a friend request |
| 19:56:00 | Helmic | I'm always on when I log into IRC. I use Pidgin, logs me into everything. |
| 19:57:00 | karamazovapy | well try sending him a message right now |
| 19:58:00 | Helmic | no result. |
| 19:59:00 | Helmic | Is he adding @icq.com or whatever? |
| 19:59:00 | karamazovapy | I'm still relaying messages between the two of you, but you should see if you can get skype working...we'll probably try to use voice chat for games |
| 20:00:00 | karamazovapy | no idea |
| 20:00:00 | Helmic | I've tried many times. SKype won't work. |
| 20:00:00 | sam686 | helmic, are you in linux, mac, or windows? i am in windows XP. |
| 20:00:00 | karamazovapy | well I'm open minded, myself. if you can suggest another cross platform chat utility, we could use that for games |
| 20:00:00 | Helmic | Windows 7 |
| 20:01:00 | karamazovapy | I'm no windows 7, too |
| 20:01:00 | karamazovapy | *on |
| 20:01:00 | Helmic | if you're talking about using in-game voice chat, there's Mumble. |
| 20:01:00 | karamazovapy | mumble could work |
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| 20:06:00 | Helmic | could con someone already hosting bitfighter servers to host a mumble server, which is free since it's open source. then just have both teams use the same server but in different rooms. |
| 20:06:00 | karamazovapy | I could try a mumble server and see what the data use is |
| 20:08:00 | karamazovapy | helmic - I sent you a chat invite |
| 20:08:00 | karamazovapy | see if you can join |
| 20:08:00 | Helmic | chat invite on what? |
| 20:08:00 | karamazovapy | via IM |
| 20:09:00 | karamazovapy | I also sent you a regular message |
| 20:09:00 | Helmic | didn't get it. problem up on my end. |
| 20:09:00 | karamazovapy | well furbuggy's in the chat room at the moment |
| 20:09:00 | karamazovapy | just wanted to see if we could connect |
| 20:09:00 | Helmic | here's a neat little trick to fix that. |
| 20:10:00 | | karamazovapy grumbles |
| 20:11:00 | karamazovapy | fur just downloaded an irc client...we're going to crack this nut. |
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