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| 03:35:00 | Zoomber | hi |
| 03:35:00 | Zoomber | hey karamazovapy , are you there? |
| 03:43:00 | karamazovapy | I am here |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | guys - don't laugh |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | i need those stupid directx libraries again... |
| 05:50:00 | watusimoto | @r did you get those libs, or do you still need them? |
| 05:50:00 | raptor | i still need them, sorry |
| 05:50:00 | watusimoto | no worries |
| 05:51:00 | watusimoto | try bitfighter.org/win_include_do_not_distribute.zip |
| 05:52:00 | raptor | got it! |
| 05:52:00 | raptor | thanks |
| 05:52:00 | watusimoto | I'm totally exhausted. It was our first hot day of summer, and I spent the day drinking beer and rebuilding a brick patio we just had installed |
| 05:53:00 | raptor | rebuilding? |
| 05:53:00 | watusimoto | and another day of that tomorrow |
| 05:53:00 | watusimoto | yeah, the levels are all wrong; I need to pull out the bricks, add sand, recompact, and reinstall |
| 05:54:00 | watusimoto | but I'm trying to do it section by section |
| 05:54:00 | watusimoto | and am adding a cedar border |
| 05:54:00 | watusimoto | so lots of cutting and digging too |
| 05:55:00 | raptor | and you are moving to europe soon, too? |
| 06:08:00 | watusimoto | looks like August sometime |
| 06:08:00 | watusimoto | only two more weeks at work thought! |
| 06:34:00 | watusimoto | I'm baffled -- the geometric sort is broken |
| 06:34:00 | watusimoto | I look at the list before sorting |
| 06:34:00 | watusimoto | and again afterwards |
| 06:34:00 | watusimoto | the items are rearranged |
| 06:35:00 | watusimoto | but not properly sorted |
| 06:35:00 | raptor | for the editorobjects? |
| 06:35:00 | raptor | maybe sort is on the pointer? |
| 06:37:00 | watusimoto | no - ptrs aren't ordered |
| 06:37:00 | watusimoto | besides, the sort has a comparison function that we've been using forever |
| 06:40:00 | raptor | maybe your IDE just doesn't show them sorted? |
| 06:40:00 | raptor | (just trying to rule out possibilities..) |
| 06:40:00 | watusimoto | I don't think so... they're being drawn incorrectly as well |
| 06:43:00 | watusimoto | well, fixed it |
| 06:43:00 | raptor | what was th eproblem? |
| 06:44:00 | watusimoto | I think when we went to innervector, the sort changed |
| 06:44:00 | | Zoomber is hoping karamazovapy is still on after i went away without saying hi |
| 06:44:00 | watusimoto | whatever mecahnsim we used before depended on returning 1,0,-1 depending on results of a comparison |
| 06:44:00 | watusimoto | but stl sorts use a fucntion that returns a boolean |
| 06:45:00 | raptor | huh |
| 06:45:00 | watusimoto | so the previous fn compiled, but returned gargbage results |
| 06:45:00 | watusimoto | switching it to return a boolean seems to have fixed it |
| 06:45:00 | raptor | are you just calling .sort() on the Vector itself? |
| 06:45:00 | Zoomber | does anyone here get superstitious of having a computer run 24/7? if i can get this over it i'll put my server back up |
| 06:46:00 | raptor | Zoomber: only if you want a higher electric bill |
| 06:46:00 | watusimoto | sort(objects.getStlVector().begin(), objects.getStlVector().begin() + objects.size(), geometricSort); |
| 06:46:00 | Zoomber | electric smectric, i was just concerned about the computer itself :) |
| 06:46:00 | watusimoto | it's geometricSort that needed changing |
| 06:46:00 | watusimoto | @z: I like to turn things off when not in use |
| 06:46:00 | watusimoto | but that's my New England upbringing |
| 06:47:00 | Zoomber | right, i was just saying, i was thinking of hosting a server on bitfighter, like i used to on zap for 24/7 |
| 06:48:00 | Zoomber | but i was feeling superstitious about leaving a computer running all night long, like it would hurt it somehow. No logic true, but thats where the superstition part comes in right? |
| 06:48:00 | watusimoto | well, it consumes power |
| 06:48:00 | raptor | that's my NE upbringing, too |
| 06:49:00 | watusimoto | in CA that means its burning cola |
| 06:49:00 | watusimoto | coal |
| 06:49:00 | raptor | watusimoto: can I have you test an executable for me? |
| 06:49:00 | watusimoto | sure |
| 06:49:00 | raptor | here: http://96.2.123.136/upload/bitifghter_music.zip |
| 06:49:00 | raptor | it has a bitfighter exe with several dlls and a music folder |
| 06:50:00 | Zoomber | we might get a solar panel installation. I hear you can pay it off at the same rate you get your power bill, and it will be cheaper than the bill, so its a win win situation |
| 06:50:00 | watusimoto | what do you want me to test |
| 06:50:00 | watusimoto | @z, it sounds like a good deal |
| 06:50:00 | Zoomber | and your not paying a cent for solar power |
| 06:50:00 | raptor | when you start the game, tell me if you hear random weapon noises - that is the 'music' i put there |
| 06:50:00 | watusimoto | but doesn't change the fact that you're burning coal |
| 06:50:00 | Zoomber | at night it doesnt |
| 06:50:00 | raptor | oh and if it crashes... :] |
| 06:51:00 | watusimoto | sure it does |
| 06:51:00 | watusimoto | even during the day |
| 06:51:00 | Zoomber | @w sorry |
| 06:51:00 | Zoomber | i meant, at night it does |
| 06:51:00 | watusimoto | even with a solar install (which you don't have) |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | @r won't run |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | missing a dll |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | openal32 |
| 06:52:00 | Zoomber | why? |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | .dll |
| 06:52:00 | raptor | oops |
| 06:52:00 | raptor | can you copy that dll from your installation over? |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | well... during the day |
| 06:52:00 | raptor | under the /lib dir |
| 06:52:00 | raptor | i didn't alter that one.. |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | your power is coming from the grid |
| 06:52:00 | Zoomber | lets say noon |
| 06:52:00 | watusimoto | your solar is feeding the grid |
| 06:53:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 06:53:00 | watusimoto | so, theoretically, it balances out |
| 06:53:00 | watusimoto | but if you use less power, the grid has more available for other users |
| 06:53:00 | watusimoto | and less coal gets burned |
| 06:54:00 | watusimoto | so every watt you use still has a direct relation to the amount of coal burned |
| 06:54:00 | watusimoto | even at noon |
| 06:54:00 | watusimoto | the amount of solar you install does reduce coal consumption |
| 06:54:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 06:55:00 | raptor | did it crash? |
| 06:55:00 | Zoomber | but what if in some hypothetical utopia, we all switched to solar panels, but were still connected to the grid? |
| 06:55:00 | watusimoto | @r libspeex.dll missing |
| 06:55:00 | raptor | haha - copy that one from the same lib folder |
| 06:55:00 | raptor | sorry |
| 06:55:00 | raptor | i thought you would just paste it into an already flushed out folder with all the other libraries |
| 06:56:00 | watusimoto | if there were sufficient solar capacity to supply all the users, then increasing your usage wouldn't induce more coal to be burned |
| 06:56:00 | watusimoto | runs |
| 06:57:00 | raptor | hear my weapon medly? |
| 06:57:00 | Zoomber | ok well that all really helps; thanks |
| 06:57:00 | watusimoto | how do I trigger it? |
| 06:57:00 | raptor | it should start with the game starts |
| 06:57:00 | raptor | you you'd hear it on the log in screen |
| 06:58:00 | watusimoto | no |
| 06:58:00 | watusimoto | Failed to create music stream for: test.ogg |
| 06:58:00 | watusimoto | Failed to play music file: test.ogg |
| 06:58:00 | raptor | argh |
| 06:58:00 | watusimoto | @z the best way to "pay" for your server is to hang your laundry on the line |
| 06:58:00 | raptor | ok, well at least it detected the file... |
| 06:59:00 | watusimoto | that |
| 06:59:00 | watusimoto | 's far cheaper than a solar install and makes your clothes smell better |
| 06:59:00 | raptor | i'm going to crash the computer and go to bed... |
| 06:59:00 | watusimoto | @r it's a start! |
| 07:00:00 | raptor | it plays the first file in the music folder on linux.. |
| 07:00:00 | raptor | i just need to get the windows libraries sorted, i think |
| 07:00:00 | raptor | wait, did you copy all the contents of the /lib folder to place where you put the executable? |
| 07:00:00 | raptor | because if so, you may have overwritten the ALURE32.dll |
| 07:01:00 | raptor | with the old, streaming-incapable one |
| 07:01:00 | Zoomber | does sam not have a repository clone? |
| 07:01:00 | Zoomber | on google? |
| 07:01:00 | raptor | he usually commits directly |
| 07:01:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 07:02:00 | Zoomber | i added some of the google clones to my list |
| 07:02:00 | Zoomber | anyone who has made a successfull push |
| 07:03:00 | watusimoto | allure32 is still there |
| 07:03:00 | watusimoto | I think I have the new copy |
| 07:03:00 | watusimoto | 149k |
| 07:03:00 | watusimoto | the old one is 158k |
| 07:03:00 | raptor | i spent two hours trying to get streaming vorbis support compiled into that library... |
| 07:03:00 | watusimoto | wait!! |
| 07:04:00 | raptor | i wait |
| 07:04:00 | watusimoto | rats |
| 07:04:00 | watusimoto | I hadn't coppied libogg, and thought maybe that was the problem |
| 07:04:00 | watusimoto | it wasn't |
| 07:05:00 | raptor | hmmm... the newer is smaller than the older - should be slightly bigger.. |
| 07:05:00 | raptor | ok, back to the drawing board |
| 07:07:00 | Zoomber | @r is compiling at the tip right now still broken for mac and (linux i guess?) |
| 07:07:00 | raptor | it's fixed for linux |
| 07:07:00 | watusimoto | no I need to rengineer undo in the editor |
| 07:07:00 | raptor | so that means a few class files just need to be added in Mac and it should work |
| 07:07:00 | Zoomber | only reason it seems |
| 07:08:00 | Zoomber | yes |
| 07:08:00 | Zoomber | thats what wanted to say :p |
| 07:08:00 | raptor | :] |
| 07:08:00 | watusimoto | I want to make undo make a copy of the entire object database |
| 07:08:00 | Zoomber | shared_ptr? |
| 07:08:00 | raptor | oh wow |
| 07:08:00 | watusimoto | rather than making snapshots of individual objects |
| 07:08:00 | watusimoto | that seems more intuitive |
| 07:08:00 | raptor | yeah, that header should be added somewhere |
| 07:08:00 | watusimoto | to undo, you just swap in an older database |
| 07:09:00 | watusimoto | but not sure how to copy |
| 07:09:00 | raptor | I purposefully neglect the Mac project so I can focus more on the code - maintaining two (sometimes three) build systems is a lot of overhead |
| 07:09:00 | watusimoto | you need to copy a list of pointers |
| 07:09:00 | watusimoto | but you need to make copies of the geometries |
| 07:09:00 | watusimoto | rather than copying the pointers |
| 07:10:00 | watusimoto | hmmmm |
| 07:10:00 | watusimoto | maybe I could serialize the entire database |
| 07:10:00 | watusimoto | save the seriaizliation, the deserialize on redo |
| 07:10:00 | watusimoto | or undo |
| 07:11:00 | watusimoto | it looks like the basic editor functionality is back |
| 07:11:00 | raptor | boost has a lot of serialization libraries |
| 07:24:00 | Zoomber | why cant xcode find boost under the normal #include </boost/config.hpp> but when i type in #include <../boost/boost/config.hpp> it finds it.. |
| 07:25:00 | raptor | do target info |
| 07:25:00 | raptor | find where it adds headers |
| 07:25:00 | raptor | liek ../glut |
| 07:25:00 | raptor | and add ../boost |
| 07:27:00 | Zoomber | oh, right, good idea |
| 07:27:00 | raptor | ok good night for real now... |
| 07:28:00 | watusimoto | good night |
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| 07:29:00 | Zoomber | ok well the boost issue is cleared up |
| 07:31:00 | Zoomber | alright |
| 07:31:00 | Zoomber | i think i fixed the speex directory too |
| 07:31:00 | Zoomber | pray this compiles |
| 07:36:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 07:36:00 | Zoomber | 1 error :D |
| 07:44:00 | Zoomber | ok, one more build and whatever the results im going off for the night too |
| 07:44:00 | Zoomber | night |
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| 08:05:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 1f003122366c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Editor: Fixed flag-spawn crash, got rendering order problem fixed |
| 08:05:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 5fddea932849 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Editor: Mines & spybugs not render at correct location |
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| 16:21:00 | raptor | ok |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 918d914ec19d | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: add windows ogg/vorbis libraries |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit fceceadd69b3 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: add ogg/vorbis headers |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 31180ccd0121 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: add music dir and config options |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit f213d221fa27 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Move function to get file from a folder into stringUtils for more general use |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 41992935b5f2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Add music to options menu |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 8e58325daaa7 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Music plays from specified music folder; only the first song found plays right now |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit c51d69f605c0 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: remove ALut linking from vc2010 project |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 549ecb26ab3d | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: link against vorbis/vorbisfile in VC++ projects |
| 16:21:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit c132cce627a4 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Rebuild ALURE32 with linking against vorbisfile. Music works in windows now. |
| 16:21:00 | raptor | hooray! |
| 16:22:00 | raptor | music is working in-game now! however, quite rudimentary |
| 16:22:00 | raptor | just drop any ogg/vorbis file into the /music directory and it will play it all the way through (only once) upon game start-up |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | several things to do still: |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | 1. play more than one song in succession |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | 2. use the openal source pool |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | 3. integrate volume control properly |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | 4. build some sort of playlist browser (maybe?) |
| 16:24:00 | raptor | 5. Allow pausing of music |
| 16:25:00 | raptor | 6. many other things I can't think of right now |
| 16:25:00 | raptor | ok bye |
| 16:25:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 16:26:00 | raptor | you are welcome to try and get these things working |
| 16:26:00 | raptor | have to run! |
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| 19:55:00 | Zoomber | hi |
| 19:56:00 | sam686 | hi? |
| 20:01:00 | Zoomber | looks like im missing some files in my project |
| 20:04:00 | sam686 | latest check out or older version 015? |
| 20:04:00 | Zoomber | tip |
| 20:04:00 | Zoomber | as of yesterday |
| 20:05:00 | Zoomber | (if there was a change while i was asleep), |
| 20:05:00 | sam686 | what tip? |
| 20:06:00 | Zoomber | im at changeset 4b6a30cbb56... |
| 20:07:00 | Zoomber | simpleline |
| 20:08:00 | sam686 | thats 35 hours ago, maybe get the latest? |
| 20:08:00 | Zoomber | yes, maybe |
| 20:08:00 | Zoomber | oh ok adding that got rid of some errors |
| 20:08:00 | sam686 | keep in mind that the latest code is for 016. (not 015) |
| 20:09:00 | Zoomber | oh ok, thanks for telling me that |
| 20:09:00 | Zoomber | 11 changesets |
| 20:14:00 | karamazovapy | SNAP INTO A SLIM JIM! OHHHHHHHHH YEEEEEEEEEAH! |
| 20:14:00 | Zoomber | lolhi |
| 20:15:00 | karamazovapy | you been stalking me? |
| 20:16:00 | Zoomber | 481 errors |
| 20:16:00 | sam686 | what does the errors say? |
| 20:16:00 | karamazovapy | okay then - I'm off |
| 20:16:00 | karamazovapy | see y'all later |
| 20:16:00 | Zoomber | wait |
| 20:16:00 | Zoomber | actually |
| 20:17:00 | | karamazovapy is now known as _k|isbatman |
| 20:17:00 | Zoomber | i wanted to ask you if you think it was a good idea to make the afbl officers section visible to everyone? |
| 20:17:00 | Zoomber | lol |
| 20:17:00 | Zoomber | everyone, meaning onlyafbl members, not every person |
| 20:18:00 | _k|isbatman | if you want a section that's viewable to everyone, but postable to officers, it probably shouldn't be called "abfl officers" |
| 20:18:00 | _k|isbatman | and it's amateur bitfighter league, not amateur fightbiter league |
| 20:18:00 | sam686 | ABFL is somewhat like having 2 clans. |
| 20:19:00 | | _k|isbatman is now known as _k|istotallybatm |
| 20:19:00 | _k|istotallybatm | it's like having two clans because we don't have enough for more |
| 20:19:00 | | _k|istotallybatm is now known as _k|seriouslybatm |
| 20:19:00 | Zoomber | sorry, i meant readable to only normal abfl people, not all forum members |
| 20:20:00 | Zoomber | i just want the schedules and planned dates of everyone, to be readable by everyone, so we have better chances of getting a real game in |
| 20:20:00 | Zoomber | @sam it looks like these errors are from vorbisfile |
| 20:20:00 | Zoomber | or the alure stuff |
| 20:20:00 | Zoomber | and vorbisfile.h |
| 20:21:00 | sam686 | there are hundreds of non-abfl players, and on June 2, there was more non-abfl players then abfl players.. |
| 20:21:00 | Zoomber | oh, i should edit the targiet info for the framework |
| 20:23:00 | Zoomber | ok fixed that |
| 20:23:00 | Zoomber | now i need to find dumb.h |
| 20:23:00 | Zoomber | wait, |
| 20:23:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 20:25:00 | Zoomber | well i have to go |
| 20:25:00 | Zoomber | bye |
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| 20:26:00 | raptor | bah Zoomber |
| 20:27:00 | sam686 | haha, zoomber left this IRC in less then 60 second before raptor joins.. |
| 20:28:00 | raptor | so have you tried playing a music file upon game start up? right now it just plays the test.ogg file - which is a bunch of weapon sounds I strung together |
| 20:28:00 | sam686 | haven't test much... |
| 20:43:00 | sam686 | looks like the latest changes have a broken bot zones, robot don't work.. |
| 20:44:00 | raptor | maybe this broke it?: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=1f003122366c6e7cc320d26caebccc0855c9b9e8 |
| 20:44:00 | raptor | under gameObject.h |
| 20:46:00 | sam686 | in robot.cpp line 960, all the "zones" are zero pointers.. |
| 20:48:00 | raptor | was it working before all my sound system changes? |
| 20:48:00 | raptor | or was your last test before watusimoto's changes, as well |
| 20:49:00 | sam686 | i did an hg update for both watusimpto's changes and yours.. |
| 20:57:00 | sam686 | i am trying to fix... there is a problem with trying to use wrong database, as there is a seperate mDatabaseForBotZones (line 957 in robot.cpp) |
| 21:12:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit bcaeacf15338 | Author: sam8641 | Log: fix wrong database for Bot Zones, fix inconsistent line endings |
| 21:14:00 | sam686 | something strange is going on, when hosting, then changing level, it acks like it doesn't clear previouse level's objects, and it duplicates your ship.. |
| 21:25:00 | sam686 | i have a question about game.cpp line 496 (void Game::cleanUp()), why don't delete game objects? it will need to be deleted for game object to get removed form database.. |
| 22:07:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 0559d8455e57 | Author: sam8641 | Log: fix trying to stop NULL music, fix game object not being deleted for next level. |
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