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| 04:19:00 | raptor | I need thoughts: |
| 04:20:00 | raptor | what would be a good way to generate a string based on key + modifier? |
| 04:20:00 | raptor | and then reparse it |
| 04:20:00 | raptor | good way = format |
| 04:20:00 | raptor | CTRL + a |
| 04:21:00 | raptor | detect the '+' then try and grab the modifier from the text in front of it? |
| 04:21:00 | sam686 | not sure, i guess CTRL + a, but apple computers may have have "APP" buttin instead of "CTRL", that function the same.. |
| 04:21:00 | raptor | that won't matter - SDL will spit out the name as META |
| 04:22:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 04:22:00 | raptor | and SDL will spit out the the same string per keyboard code on all platforms |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | I think i have most new input methods written now - i just need to plug them into the rest of the classes |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | starting with config.cpp - but it is a beast |
| 04:24:00 | sam686 | anyone have a mac powerpc to test? i have heard someome having trouble with mac ppc. I did put in the forum.. http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=779 |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | ahh... I do have an old ppc Tiger computer at work |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | I'll have to rehook it up |
| 04:25:00 | sam686 | ok good, but that means waiting? |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | yep |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | can't test until tomorrow |
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| 04:46:00 | watusimoto | I'm ready to start taking bug reports on the editor for everything not involving polywalls |
| 04:46:00 | watusimoto | and everything not involving ctrl not working or keys not repeating or anything sdl related |
| 04:47:00 | raptor | ahh.. repeating keys |
| 04:47:00 | watusimoto | @raptor -- can I (try to) make a quick fix to get getState() working? |
| 04:47:00 | raptor | rats |
| 04:47:00 | watusimoto | not a problem -- implementing a key repeat function is pretty easy |
| 04:47:00 | raptor | what is getState? |
| 04:47:00 | watusimoto | it's not critical right now |
| 04:47:00 | watusimoto | returns true if a key is down, false if not |
| 04:48:00 | raptor | i didn't kn ow that was broken - |
| 04:48:00 | watusimoto | it's the way we check for ctrl-blah combos |
| 04:48:00 | watusimoto | it is |
| 04:48:00 | watusimoto | so you can't zoom in and out in the editor, for example |
| 04:48:00 | raptor | sure, make your change |
| 04:49:00 | watusimoto | I'm not actually sure it's easy... just hoping |
| 04:50:00 | raptor | the new system actually doesn't really work that way... |
| 04:51:00 | raptor | i still set/detect the keydown state similarly |
| 04:51:00 | sam686 | i did find that initalizing colors into cpp instead of .h saves about 7 KB of compiled binary size.. |
| 04:51:00 | sam686 | 2,787,840 bytes const color red(1,0,0) in Colors.h |
| 04:51:00 | sam686 | 2,780,160 bytes extern const color red in Colors.h |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | the new system has a set of predefined KeyCode names |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | then when you press a key it tries to match what you press against what is predefined |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | that way we don't have to define every combo |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | the predefined KeyCodes are adjustable of course, but they all have a specific identifier |
| 04:54:00 | watusimoto | @sam - interesting |
| 04:54:00 | watusimoto | @r - yes, but there must be a way to detect whether a particular key is down |
| 04:54:00 | raptor | yes, that is still there |
| 04:54:00 | raptor | or will be still there |
| 04:54:00 | watusimoto | it's broken, probably an easy fix |
| 04:55:00 | watusimoto | to detect ctrl-r, we get the event for the r down, then check the status of ctrl |
| 04:55:00 | watusimoto | if yes, it's ctrl-r. if not, it's r (or shift-r or alt-r or shift-alt-r or...) |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | so righ tnow, ctrl-r registers as a key + a mod |
| 04:56:00 | raptor | and the new system will check that combo against the KeyCode list; if it finds a match, it set's the action as keyCodeDown |
| 04:57:00 | watusimoto | currently, we're receiving events for the r being pressed |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | but we'll have to implement a separate system for detecting every key for the diagnostic screen |
| 04:57:00 | watusimoto | but when I check the status of ctrl, it's always returning false |
| 04:57:00 | watusimoto | regardless of the status of the ctrl key |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | yes - it is saying 'unknown key' |
| 04:57:00 | watusimoto | what is saying that? checkStatus? |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | probably because it needs to check the SDLMod state |
| 04:58:00 | watusimoto | probably |
| 04:58:00 | watusimoto | I'll look |
| 04:58:00 | raptor | the diagnostic |
| 04:58:00 | watusimoto | just didn't want to interfere with any master plan |
| 04:58:00 | raptor | the modifier keys actually might now be registered as an SDLKey |
| 04:58:00 | raptor | might *not |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | there are minor inconsistencies between systems: like on Mac, i think they were registered as an SDLKey, but not on linux/windows |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | but it is guaranteed that the event will detect it as a SDLMod (at least so far in my tests) |
| 05:00:00 | watusimoto | @karamazovapy |
| 05:00:00 | watusimoto | are you on? |
| 05:02:00 | watusimoto | nm |
| 05:05:00 | watusimoto | @r -- everything I wrote about getstate should have been getKeyState() |
| 05:05:00 | raptor | ok |
| 06:18:00 | raptor | in c++, is text within double quotes detected as a string or const char *? |
| 06:18:00 | sam686 | double quote is string, single quote is char.. |
| 06:18:00 | sam686 | or, it mist be const char * |
| 06:18:00 | sam686 | not string.. |
| 06:19:00 | raptor | i know you can pass text wihtin double quotes as a string |
| 06:19:00 | sam686 | but to make it a string, try string("hello") |
| 06:19:00 | raptor | but if it stands on it's own, does the compiler see a char array? |
| 06:20:00 | sam686 | i think it sees "hello" as char* |
| 06:20:00 | raptor | ok |
| 06:20:00 | sam686 | you can do char c = "hello"[1] and c will be 'e' |
| 06:20:00 | raptor | ok, just checking |
| 06:21:00 | raptor | i guess the new eclipse still needs work on it's new real-time code analysis plugin |
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| 06:23:00 | zoomber | sam686 |
| 06:23:00 | zoomber | here is the link of the bug |
| 06:23:00 | zoomber | http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/11/screenshot20110707at111.png |
| 06:24:00 | zoomber | see? whole area covered in spybug line of sight, yet your ship is hidden |
| 06:24:00 | sam686 | blue flag is hidden too.. |
| 06:24:00 | raptor | i think i hate 'const' |
| 06:24:00 | sam686 | spybug should be able to see the flag.. |
| 06:25:00 | zoomber | yeah |
| 06:26:00 | zoomber | but spybug see nothing |
| 06:26:00 | sam686 | no blue flag in screenshot, it is CTF.. |
| 06:26:00 | sam686 | spybug covers everything for blue team.. |
| 06:29:00 | sam686 | one problem with editor is saving the level might remove some parameters, like Teleporter delay=3.2 part.. |
| 06:30:00 | sam686 | another problem with editor is ctrl + C and ctrl + V don't work yet.. might be input problem... |
| 06:33:00 | raptor | yeah, watusimoto said any bugs that are not input related (that is my job :) |
| 06:48:00 | raptor | i'm struggling with enums |
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| 06:52:00 | sam686 | something strange is going on when loading level with polygon walls, it seems to create a copy of polygon walls (where forcefield attaches to) when moving poly walls.. |
| 06:55:00 | sam686 | that polygon problem is in editor... |
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| 07:04:00 | raptor | good night |
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| 16:05:00 | raptor | I am sad |
| 16:06:00 | raptor | http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/shuttle/main/index.html |
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| 16:55:00 | karamazovapy | I'm not really bummed about the final shuttle mission...but I want a moon base! |
| 16:55:00 | karamazovapy | we need to start terraforming that shite |
| 16:56:00 | raptor | mars would be the better location for terraforming, i think |
| 16:56:00 | raptor | but it takes months to get there... |
| 17:00:00 | karamazovapy | oh, it's definitely better for "real" terraforming |
| 17:01:00 | karamazovapy | but we need to practice before we start crash testing stuff on mars |
| 17:01:00 | karamazovapy | just a stable moon base would be a step in the right direction |
| 17:08:00 | karamazovapy | who would've guessed this guy was gay? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgq1g-2cQ54 |
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| 18:08:00 | raptor | does anyone understand AOP? (aspect-oriented programming) |
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| 19:47:00 | sam686 | does it work or not in mac ppc tiger? Don't forget to see if it does run... |
| 19:47:00 | raptor | oh y eah! |
| 19:47:00 | raptor | let's see if this old machine still boots up... |
| 19:51:00 | sam686 | one possible problem is the osxInput.cpp, |
| 19:52:00 | raptor | i hate that class |
| 19:55:00 | sam686 | it sometimes crashes in InitJoystick(), so it might be possible to stick a return right after gJoystickNames.clear();, compile, and give to blackbird / little_apple to see if it runs in in thrir older mac, or if thats not the problem. What ever the problem is, they just want it wo tork, preferably before BBB5 starts.. |
| 20:04:00 | raptor | argh - i can't get it to boot the macos system... it only boots a linux system |
| 20:07:00 | sam686 | i guess one option is some kind of team view to little_apple / BlackBird old mac computer... |
| 20:09:00 | sam686 | for information from BlackBird, they say the old ZAP demo works in old mac ppc but not bitfighter |
| 20:17:00 | raptor | i cross-compiled the package to ppc and it gave no error |
| 20:17:00 | raptor | I have to reinstall Tiger on this machine... |
| 20:17:00 | raptor | now i need a disc |
| 20:30:00 | sam686 | can you maybe compile mac ppc with this: http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/osxInput.cpp.txt (it disables joystick support with #defines, if that is where the error is) |
| 20:30:00 | raptor | sure - let me start up the VM.. |
| 20:31:00 | sam686 | be sure to compile it as 015a, with this osxInput.cpp |
| 20:31:00 | raptor | ok |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | ok compiling... |
| 20:37:00 | sam686 | once you done compiling, you can upload to my uploader, and i can tell (pm) little_apple or blackbird to test it and see if it works.. |
| 20:38:00 | raptor | yeah, that crashes |
| 20:40:00 | raptor | 0x929163d6 in std::string::compare () |
| 20:40:00 | raptor | #1 0x000b96f9 in Zap::autodetectJoystickType () at /Users/geeko/temp/hg/bitfighter/build/osx/xcode/../../../zap/input.cpp:838 |
| 20:40:00 | raptor | #2 0x000ce7d3 in setJoystick [inlined] () at /Users/geeko/temp/hg/bitfighter/zap/main.cpp:2116 |
| 20:40:00 | raptor | #3 0x000ce7d3 in main (argc=7, argv=0xbffff65c) at /Users/geeko/temp/hg/bitfighter/build/osx/xcode/../../../zap/main.cpp:2117 |
| 20:44:00 | sam686 | i think maybe try initJoystick () { gJoystickNames.clear(); gUseStickNumber = 0; } |
| 20:44:00 | raptor | which class is that in? |
| 20:44:00 | sam686 | osxInpout.cpp |
| 20:44:00 | sam686 | at the very bottom. |
| 20:45:00 | sam686 | if you are using my osxInput.cpp... |
| 20:45:00 | raptor | ah ok |
| 20:52:00 | sam686 | i have just realized there is getModifierState, probably want that to work... |
| 20:52:00 | sam686 | in osxinput.cpp |
| 20:53:00 | raptor | ah yes |
| 20:53:00 | raptor | can you make that change for me? I am reinstalling Tiger on the PPC right now... |
| 20:55:00 | raptor | actually i can do it - it is simple enough |
| 20:56:00 | sam686 | i hope this looks right: http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/osxInput.cpp1.txt |
| 20:56:00 | sam686 | if i am right, GetCurrentEventKeyModifiers needs carbon.h |
| 20:59:00 | raptor | ah much better - uploading now |
| 21:00:00 | raptor | http://96.2.123.136/upload/Bitfighter-015a.macosx-universal-noJoystick.dmg |
| 21:00:00 | sam686 | ok, good.. |
| 21:00:00 | raptor | there was another DMG uploaded that ends in joystick-disabled; that is a broken one |
| 21:00:00 | raptor | that link i just pasted is the correct one |
| 21:00:00 | sam686 | ok |
| 21:00:00 | raptor | wnding in noJoystick |
| 21:02:00 | raptor | reinstalling MacOS X on my PPC |
| 21:07:00 | sam686 | little_apple still have same problem with it won't start in his old mac.. |
| 21:07:00 | raptor | rats |
| 21:07:00 | raptor | i was hoping that was a quick fix |
| 21:08:00 | raptor | well, installation is almost done - and then I can test.. |
| 21:09:00 | raptor | how long until BBB starts? |
| 21:10:00 | raptor | and you are sure it is Mac OS Tiger? |
| 21:10:00 | sam686 | bbb5 starts in http://96.2.123.136/count/countdown.php?t=9-7-2011,0:00:00 |
| 21:11:00 | sam686 | i was told it was tiger mac ppc |
| 21:11:00 | raptor | ok |
| 21:11:00 | raptor | done installing... |
| 21:20:00 | sam686 | i will guess it fails for your mac tiger ppc, and are working to fix it... |
| 21:21:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 21:23:00 | raptor | hi |
| 21:24:00 | raptor | finally started up... |
| 21:24:00 | sam686 | i am switching back and forth between irc and bitfighter, and sometimes i chat at the wrong place.. |
| 21:24:00 | raptor | it works! |
| 21:25:00 | raptor | the base 015a download from google code works fine |
| 21:43:00 | karamazovapy | hey - I've found three levels that crash triangle |
| 21:43:00 | raptor | yes!! |
| 21:44:00 | karamazovapy | they're not even weird levels |
| 21:47:00 | raptor | the game doesn't crash, though, does it? |
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| 22:09:00 | Little_Apple | umm |
| 22:09:00 | Little_Apple | hi? |
| 22:09:00 | raptor | you m ade it! |
| 22:09:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:09:00 | raptor | hi |
| 22:09:00 | raptor | welcome |
| 22:09:00 | Little_Apple | brb. mom is yelling at me :| |
| 22:09:00 | raptor | ha |
| 22:10:00 | Little_Apple | back |
| 22:11:00 | Little_Apple | are you compileing? |
| 22:11:00 | Little_Apple | *compiling |
| 22:11:00 | raptor | can you give me the exact info string of your processor from the mac? |
| 22:12:00 | Little_Apple | um... ok? |
| 22:12:00 | Little_Apple | one sec |
| 22:13:00 | Little_Apple | new-host-4:Bitfighter.app/Contents/MacOS] cbarker% ./Bitfighter.sh |
| 22:13:00 | Little_Apple | oopz? |
| 22:13:00 | Little_Apple | um, its not working :| |
| 22:13:00 | raptor | that's ok |
| 22:13:00 | raptor | i think i found what i need to compile.. |
| 22:14:00 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 22:14:00 | raptor | i will have to give it to you in a zip file - can your G3 handle zip files? |
| 22:15:00 | Little_Apple | yes |
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| 22:15:00 | Reggie_ | hi I'm Reggie |
| 22:16:00 | Reggie_ | Teehee |
| 22:16:00 | raptor | Hi Reggie_ |
| 22:16:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 22:16:00 | Reggie_ | I'm just apple. I'm testing to see if the worked on mobile |
| 22:16:00 | Reggie_ | It apparently does |
| 22:17:00 | Little_Apple | \so..... |
| 22:17:00 | Little_Apple | now what? |
| 22:17:00 | Reggie_ | No idea |
| 22:17:00 | Little_Apple | hi reggie |
| 22:17:00 | Reggie_ | Hi apple dude |
| 22:17:00 | Little_Apple | im talking to myself |
| 22:17:00 | Reggie_ | Ur weird |
| 22:18:00 | Little_Apple | soo... any progress? |
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| 22:19:00 | raptor | ok, compiled and zipped: http://96.2.123.136/upload/bitfighter-G3.zip |
| 22:20:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: try that file ^^ |
| 22:20:00 | Little_Apple | k. im gonna have to go for a min. |
| 22:20:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 22:21:00 | Little_Apple | brbiab |
| 22:23:00 | raptor | well, Little_Apple, if this works I may need to upload a new binary to google code |
| 22:24:00 | Little_Apple | umm |
| 22:24:00 | Little_Apple | its not working :| |
| 22:24:00 | Little_Apple | brb. i try somthin |
| 22:24:00 | raptor | the phrase "it's not working" has never helped anyone solve the problem :) |
| 22:25:00 | Little_Apple | its crashing just like before :\ |
| 22:25:00 | raptor | you unzipped the file and replaced the old bitfighter? |
| 22:26:00 | Little_Apple | yes |
| 22:26:00 | Little_Apple | still not working. doing the exact same thing as before |
| 22:26:00 | raptor | segfault? |
| 22:26:00 | Little_Apple | um... |
| 22:26:00 | Little_Apple | im just trying to open it :| |
| 22:27:00 | raptor | OOPS |
| 22:27:00 | Little_Apple | what? |
| 22:27:00 | raptor | i gave you the wrong thing... |
| 22:27:00 | Little_Apple | >:| |
| 22:28:00 | Little_Apple | oopsie! :\ |
| 22:28:00 | Little_Apple | you made a boo boo |
| 22:28:00 | raptor | recompiling... |
| 22:29:00 | Little_Apple | do i delete everything again? and replace it with the new versoion? |
| 22:29:00 | raptor | yeah, delete everything |
| 22:29:00 | Little_Apple | k |
| 22:29:00 | raptor | i am getting a new version ready for you - it'll be a couple min. |
| 22:29:00 | Little_Apple | all gone! :D |
| 22:30:00 | Little_Apple | if this works, DONT tell footloose |
| 22:30:00 | Little_Apple | k? |
| 22:30:00 | sam686 | time is ticking till Big Bitfighter Battle 5 starts: http://96.2.123.136/count/countdown.php?t=9-7-2011,0:00:00 |
| 22:30:00 | sam686 | ok |
| 22:31:00 | Little_Apple | i know !!! |
| 22:31:00 | Little_Apple | 1 HOUR!!!! D: |
| 22:31:00 | Little_Apple | and 30 mins :| |
| 22:32:00 | Little_Apple | siiiiingin' in the raaaain...... |
| 22:32:00 | Little_Apple | narhg, brb' |
| 22:33:00 | raptor | ok Little_Apple, try this one: http://96.2.123.136/upload/bitfighter-G3-try2.zip |
| 22:33:00 | raptor | this is a Debug build with optimizations turned off and tuned specifically for a G3 |
| 22:33:00 | Little_Apple | back. ok |
| 22:34:00 | raptor | i'm getting a try3 ready in case this fails |
| 22:34:00 | raptor | but i have to leave soon.. |
| 22:34:00 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 22:34:00 | Little_Apple | :( |
| 22:35:00 | Little_Apple | not workin >:\ |
| 22:35:00 | sam686 | any message it says? |
| 22:35:00 | Little_Apple | um..... |
| 22:36:00 | Little_Apple | in what? terminal? |
| 22:36:00 | raptor | yes |
| 22:36:00 | sam686 | yes, usually terminal says more about what happened.. |
| 22:36:00 | Little_Apple | um... |
| 22:36:00 | raptor | if a program crashes, always run in terminal |
| 22:36:00 | Little_Apple | should i try opening it with terminal? |
| 22:36:00 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 22:36:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 22:37:00 | raptor | ok try3: http://96.2.123.136/upload/bitfighter-G3-try3.zip |
| 22:37:00 | Little_Apple | just said segmentation fault again :| |
| 22:37:00 | sam686 | did it say anything before segmentation fault? |
| 22:37:00 | Little_Apple | nope |
| 22:38:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: can you delete the bitfighter preferences directory? |
| 22:38:00 | Little_Apple | i dono |
| 22:38:00 | raptor | it is in your home directory under Library/Application Support |
| 22:38:00 | raptor | delete the directory 'Bitfighter' |
| 22:39:00 | Little_Apple | um... ok? |
| 22:39:00 | sam686 | i might be guessing it could be broken sound support, or broken hardware opengl, or something, not sure till we can find where it is erroring.. |
| 22:40:00 | Little_Apple | directory in what? application support? |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | home -> Library -> Application Support -> Bitfighter |
| 22:40:00 | Little_Apple | i did that |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | delete the Bitfighter directory |
| 22:40:00 | Little_Apple | i already did |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | oh good |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | now try the try3 zip file above |
| 22:41:00 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 22:41:00 | Little_Apple | bounce bounce bounce bounce CRASH!!!!! |
| 22:41:00 | Little_Apple | >:\ |
| 22:41:00 | sam686 | a fourth try may be to insert logprintf("test1 pass") in multiple places in main.cpp |
| 22:41:00 | Little_Apple | :\ |
| 22:42:00 | sam686 | so it at least outputs what parts it have passed.. |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | ok Little_Apple |
| 22:42:00 | Little_Apple | raptor, do you have a g3 or a g4? |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | G4 |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | in terminal |
| 22:42:00 | Little_Apple | ok... it works fine on g4 :| |
| 22:42:00 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | go into the directory where i told you to run the script |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | but instaed |
| 22:42:00 | raptor | run this command: otool -L Bitfighter |
| 22:43:00 | Little_Apple | one min... |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | tell be if it ouputs anything 'not found' or 'missing' |
| 22:43:00 | Little_Apple | do i need to make a terminal and the do the cd thing? |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | yes |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | the terminal is your friend |
| 22:43:00 | Little_Apple | ok one min... |
| 22:43:00 | Little_Apple | :| |
| 22:44:00 | Little_Apple | space otool -L? |
| 22:44:00 | raptor | otool -L Bitfighter |
| 22:44:00 | Little_Apple | or just otool -L? |
| 22:44:00 | Little_Apple | ok? |
| 22:44:00 | raptor | is the only command |
| 22:45:00 | Little_Apple | command not found :\ |
| 22:45:00 | raptor | NOOOOO |
| 22:45:00 | Little_Apple | IKR? |
| 22:45:00 | raptor | you need developer tools installed |
| 22:46:00 | raptor | man |
| 22:46:00 | raptor | ok |
| 22:46:00 | sam686 | otool connand not found? |
| 22:46:00 | Little_Apple | i try that |
| 22:46:00 | Little_Apple | command not... i dont need to finish :| |
| 22:47:00 | Little_Apple | im starting to think this will never work :( |
| 22:48:00 | Little_Apple | raptor? |
| 22:50:00 | Little_Apple | RRAAPPTTOORR!!! |
| 22:50:00 | raptor | hold yoru horses |
| 22:50:00 | sam686 | just need that more-specific error to quickly fix, not just "Seg Fault" |
| 22:50:00 | raptor | i am getting you another build with debug info |
| 22:50:00 | Little_Apple | hold on horsey! |
| 22:50:00 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 22:52:00 | raptor | ok, you must run this on the commandline |
| 22:52:00 | Little_Apple | ok..... |
| 22:52:00 | raptor | http://96.2.123.136/upload/bitfighter-G3-try4.zip |
| 22:52:00 | Little_Apple | ............................................... |
| 22:52:00 | Little_Apple | run wut on command line? |
| 22:52:00 | raptor | it shoudl spit out lots of text like "before somefunction" |
| 22:53:00 | raptor | that link i just pasted: try4 |
| 22:53:00 | raptor | replace your old bitfighter under /Applications, and open terminal and cd to it |
| 22:53:00 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 22:53:00 | raptor | then run the script ./bitfighter.sh again |
| 22:54:00 | raptor | it should be noisy and spit out lots of text |
| 22:54:00 | Little_Apple | ok.... |
| 22:54:00 | raptor | i actually have to leave for home, be back in about 1/2 hour |
| 22:54:00 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 22:55:00 | Little_Apple | bai :( |
| 22:55:00 | | raptor Quit (Remote host closed the connection) |
| 22:55:00 | Little_Apple | ./bitfighter.sh: line 51: 843 Segmentation fault ./Bitfighter -rootDataDir "$userdatadir" -sfxdir "$sfxdir" -scriptsdir "$scriptsdir" "$@" |
| 22:55:00 | Little_Apple | ummm |
| 22:55:00 | Little_Apple | :( |
| 22:55:00 | sam686 | did it say anything before segfault? |
| 22:56:00 | Little_Apple | this is all it said :| |
| 22:56:00 | Little_Apple | ./bitfighter.sh: line 51: 843 Segmentation fault ./Bitfighter -rootDataDir "$userdatadir" -sfxdir "$sfxdir" -scriptsdir "$scriptsdir" "$@" |
| 22:57:00 | sam686 | not sure whats wrong.. |
| 22:57:00 | Little_Apple | im more cluless than you are :| |
| 22:58:00 | sam686 | g |
| 22:58:00 | Little_Apple | WHAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!! |
| 22:59:00 | sam686 | raptor said will be back in 30 minutes, hopefully before big battle starts.. |
| 22:59:00 | Little_Apple | ok..... :( |
| 23:01:00 | Little_Apple | me is sad :'( |
| 23:02:00 | Little_Apple | : |
| 23:02:00 | Little_Apple | :( |
| 23:02:00 | Little_Apple | 8 |
| 23:02:00 | Little_Apple | 8( |
| 23:10:00 | Little_Apple | guess ill have to wait till the bbb6 :( |
| 23:14:00 | | raptor has joined |
| 23:14:00 | | ChanServ sets mode +o raptor |
| 23:14:00 | sam686 | could you maybe try teamview, what that does is to allow seeing, and possibly control your computer, or your computer control mine.. http://www.teamviewer.com |
| 23:14:00 | raptor | howdy |
| 23:14:00 | raptor | any progress? |
| 23:14:00 | sam686 | coult try untraVNC, but i don't know about mac.. |
| 23:14:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: are you sure you are running the same application on the command line? |
| 23:15:00 | raptor | are you putting the try4 in your /Application directory? |
| 23:17:00 | | koda Quit (Quit: k thx bai) |
| 23:18:00 | sam686 | seeing that little_apple screen would really help.. |
| 23:19:00 | raptor | yes |
| 23:19:00 | raptor | actually mac has VNC built in |
| 23:19:00 | raptor | it's under their control panel -> network services or something |
| 23:19:00 | raptor | they just have t oenable it |
| 23:19:00 | sam686 | little_apple? is it in older mac? |
| 23:19:00 | raptor | mac 10.4 has it |
| 23:19:00 | raptor | which is tiger |
| 23:19:00 | sam686 | ok |
| 23:20:00 | raptor | but he may be behind a router |
| 23:21:00 | raptor | acutally, my work has remote control software that will go through routers.. |
| 23:22:00 | raptor | let me see if there is a mac client |
| 23:24:00 | karamazovapy | raptor: those triangle-incompatible levels crash the server |
| 23:24:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: if you are here I know how to get access to your screen |
| 23:24:00 | raptor | go here: https://bokai.provo.novell.com/ |
| 23:25:00 | raptor | karamazovapy: that is unfortunate, i thought we handled crashing with levels gracefully |
| 23:25:00 | karamazovapy | yeah...crashy crashy |
| 23:25:00 | karamazovapy | one's available on the forums... |
| 23:25:00 | sam686 | that triangle incompatible should be fixed, but might not be in 015a.. |
| 23:26:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, I don't have the most recent revision |
| 23:26:00 | karamazovapy | (on my server) |
| 23:26:00 | Little_Apple | ok, im back |
| 23:26:00 | raptor | you don't want it, trust me :) |
| 23:26:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: |
| 23:26:00 | karamazovapy | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=280&p=1794#p1794 |
| 23:26:00 | Little_Apple | yesh |
| 23:26:00 | karamazovapy | burrow crashes my linux server |
| 23:26:00 | raptor | are you willing to let me control your screen? |
| 23:26:00 | Little_Apple | um..... i dono |
| 23:27:00 | karamazovapy | I've hosted it successfully in the past, and I've seen it work on other servers |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | on the G3 |
| 23:27:00 | sam686 | oh that might be with the error of bot zones failuer... |
| 23:27:00 | Little_Apple | raptor |
| 23:27:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, it's bot zones |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | yes |
| 23:27:00 | Little_Apple | how would i take away ur control of the screen? |
| 23:27:00 | karamazovapy | same goes for the old zap version of galaxy crossover and drex's old "gone" |
| 23:27:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: with the click of a button |
| 23:27:00 | Little_Apple | ok... |
| 23:27:00 | Little_Apple | ok. ill do it :| |
| 23:28:00 | raptor | it is an application from my work that let's you let me or deny me at any time |
| 23:28:00 | raptor | ok |
| 23:28:00 | raptor | go here: https://bokai.provo.novell.com/ |
| 23:28:00 | raptor | enter in this key: 2122720 |
| 23:28:00 | karamazovapy | tell us what kind of porn he's been downloading! |
| 23:29:00 | Little_Apple | :| |
| 23:29:00 | raptor | it should auto-start downloading a client that will let me connect to your compy |
| 23:29:00 | karamazovapy | lol |
| 23:29:00 | raptor | you can delete it when we're done |
| 23:29:00 | Little_Apple | k |
| 23:29:00 | sam686 | karamov: you can fix the map by adding a line to level: BotNavMeshZone 0 0 0 1 1 0, that will disable built-in bot zone generator |
| 23:29:00 | karamazovapy | oooh...I'll do that! thanks sam! |
| 23:29:00 | Little_Apple | all i have is random junk and games. none of what _k hinks |
| 23:29:00 | Little_Apple | *thinks |
| 23:30:00 | karamazovapy | oh...you have no IDEA what I hink! |
| 23:30:00 | Little_Apple | :| |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: were you able to enter in the key? |
| 23:30:00 | Little_Apple | yesh |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | did it start downloading a client? |
| 23:30:00 | raptor | or launch something? |
| 23:30:00 | Little_Apple | not yet |
| 23:31:00 | raptor | are there specific instructions you have to follow? |
| 23:31:00 | Little_Apple | no. i just open the app thingy? |
| 23:31:00 | raptor | yes |
| 23:31:00 | Little_Apple | there |
| 23:31:00 | raptor | it should launch something called 'bomgar client' or 'novell chat client' |
| 23:34:00 | karamazovapy | great fix sam - all levels now crash-free |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | ok |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | Little_Apple: does not run Tiger |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | so we can't even support his system |
| 23:39:00 | Little_Apple | hey, bb was the one that said it ran tiger :| |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | he'll need to upgrade to tiger |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | bb was incorrect :( |
| 23:39:00 | Little_Apple | i can look into it |
| 23:39:00 | raptor | if you have a tiger disc, i suggest upgrading |
| 23:39:00 | Little_Apple | can the g3 even run tiger? |
| 23:40:00 | raptor | yes |
| 23:40:00 | Little_Apple | 10.4? |
| 23:40:00 | raptor | tiger = 10.4, correct |
| 23:40:00 | Little_Apple | hmm... |
| 23:40:00 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 23:40:00 | Little_Apple | do you have a mac? |
| 23:40:00 | raptor | I have one at work I play with |
| 23:40:00 | Little_Apple | ok. cuz mac has ichat and ichat has screen sharing |
| 23:40:00 | raptor | you have 'Panther' |
| 23:41:00 | Little_Apple | meep |
| 23:41:00 | raptor | which is 10.3 |
| 23:41:00 | Little_Apple | krud |
| 23:41:00 | Little_Apple | gim pretty sure we have tiger |
| 23:41:00 | raptor | you'll have to upgrade |
| 23:41:00 | raptor | you can boot from the tiger disc by holding 'c' when the computer starts up |
| 23:42:00 | raptor | if you have that disc.. |
| 23:42:00 | Little_Apple | ok. i might have it upgraded in the near future |
| 23:42:00 | Little_Apple | glion is commin out soon! :D |
| 23:42:00 | Little_Apple | *lion |
| 23:43:00 | raptor | you cannot run anything past tiger on your machine.. |
| 23:43:00 | raptor | on that one old PPC, i mean |
| 23:43:00 | Little_Apple | i know dat :| |
| 23:43:00 | Little_Apple | how sad |
| 23:43:00 | Little_Apple | bitfighter works perfectly on the g4 |
| 23:44:00 | Little_Apple | no bugs that i know of... not including the voice chat issue |
| 23:44:00 | raptor | if you want perspective, tiger came out in 2005 |
| 23:44:00 | Little_Apple | k |
| 23:44:00 | Little_Apple | ill have to ask my dad if we still have tiger |
| 23:44:00 | Little_Apple | i think we do |
| 23:45:00 | Little_Apple | i think i shal leave now |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | ok |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | thanks for letting me diagnose |
| 23:45:00 | Little_Apple | g'bye |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | later |
| 23:45:00 | Little_Apple | ok. |
| 23:45:00 | Little_Apple | bai |
| 23:45:00 | | Little_Apple Quit (Quit: Page closed) |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | wow, after all that and it wasn't even tiger.. |
| 23:45:00 | raptor | i'm glad i have that remote control client.. |
| 23:58:00 | | karamazovapy Quit (Quit: Leaving) |
