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| 01:38:00 | Little_Apple | um, raptor? U there? |
| 01:38:00 | raptor | hi |
| 01:38:00 | raptor | Little_Apple |
| 01:38:00 | raptor | i'm here |
| 01:39:00 | Little_Apple | i have an even bigger problem |
| 01:39:00 | raptor | bigger? |
| 01:40:00 | Little_Apple | ugh, brb |
| 01:40:00 | raptor | k |
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| 01:42:00 | Little_Apple_ | I can't install tiger. Krud. |
| 01:44:00 | Little_Apple_ | Hello? |
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| 01:44:00 | raptor | hyi |
| 01:45:00 | raptor | Little_Apple_: |
| 01:45:00 | raptor | how come? |
| 01:46:00 | raptor | did find a CD? |
| 01:46:00 | Little_Apple_ | Tiger is on a DVD and the g3 has no DVD drive. I'm peeved |
| 01:46:00 | raptor | ahhh.... |
| 01:46:00 | raptor | yeah that stinks |
| 01:46:00 | raptor | can you open up the box and swap out the DVD? |
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| 01:47:00 | Little_Apple_ | What box? And all I got is the DVD |
| 01:47:00 | raptor | i mean, can you swap out the CD drive for the DVD drive from the other computer? |
| 01:48:00 | raptor | or better if you have an external DVD drive |
| 01:48:00 | Little_Apple_ | Not without destroying the computer no. |
| 01:48:00 | raptor | ah that's right - you have an iMac |
| 01:49:00 | raptor | mine at work opens up and let's take out components |
| 01:49:00 | raptor | but it's a tower |
| 01:49:00 | Little_Apple_ | The DVD drive I have is too new. |
| 01:50:00 | raptor | let me put some effort into trying to build on panther for you |
| 01:50:00 | Little_Apple_ | One minute, I'm gonna try to find another irc thingy. This is not exatly mobile frindly |
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| 04:33:00 | raptor | that zemmer.. |
| 04:33:00 | raptor | stealing my nexus flags at the last second |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | watusimoto: there are two types of input "keys" |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | bindable ones, and hardcoded ones |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | so question: do you want editor keys to be bindable? |
| 04:35:00 | raptor | because I hope no :) |
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| 04:39:00 | raptor | come back! |
| 04:44:00 | raptor | teams look like they were mixed up plenty tonight |
| 04:44:00 | raptor | although team games were constantly off balance by head count |
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| 05:24:00 | karamazovapy | early results posted |
| 05:25:00 | karamazovapy | raptor: I'd agree with the team mixing, although we had lots of 6v5 games and some others that were unbalanced by idlers |
| 05:26:00 | karamazovapy | still a fun night, although I missed having the big 10v10 type game |
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| 05:27:00 | zoomber | hey raptor, did you see a server up called mashzone? |
| 05:28:00 | raptor | let me look |
| 05:28:00 | zoomber | that one has the burst bot in it, but i cant find it for me |
| 05:28:00 | zoomber | aaaaah i just broke a glass |
| 05:28:00 | raptor | i can't find it either |
| 05:28:00 | karamazovapy | mashzone is down |
| 05:29:00 | zoomber | hmm |
| 05:29:00 | zoomber | my computer must have lost interent connectivity |
| 05:29:00 | zoomber | i shall check |
| 05:29:00 | raptor | i took a stab at compiling bitfighter for panther... no go |
| 05:29:00 | raptor | several thousand errors |
| 05:30:00 | | zoomber has an extremely complicated airport setup |
| 05:30:00 | zoomber | oooh |
| 05:30:00 | zoomber | you did? |
| 05:30:00 | zoomber | :] |
| 05:30:00 | raptor | yeah, i got ahold of the 10.3 SDK |
| 05:30:00 | zoomber | ahha i have it too |
| 05:30:00 | karamazovapy | so BBB size... 3B1 < 3B2 < 3B4 < 3B5 < 3B3 |
| 05:30:00 | raptor | oh - you want that VM? |
| 05:30:00 | zoomber | you can build old .xcode (not .xcodeproj) files using X11 |
| 05:31:00 | raptor | wait, actually I can't get you the vm yet... |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | np |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | wait |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | wait wait |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | if you have macos 10.3 sdk |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | do you have older gcc compiler too?/ |
| 05:31:00 | raptor | no |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | dam |
| 05:31:00 | raptor | maybe that's the problem |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | and, that could be related too |
| 05:31:00 | zoomber | i was trying to get gcc 3.0 on my xcode 3.curretnversion |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | but try this |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | open utilies |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | and find X11 |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | utilities* |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | oh, this might now work |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | let me try it first |
| 05:32:00 | raptor | i see your post about installing tiger over firewire |
| 05:32:00 | raptor | good find |
| 05:32:00 | zoomber | thanks |
| 05:33:00 | zoomber | i remember doing all that stuff when i was 8 :] |
| 05:33:00 | zoomber | my parents gave me their ppc black computer and i firewire installed tiger on it |
| 05:33:00 | raptor | wow |
| 05:33:00 | karamazovapy | http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=780 |
| 05:33:00 | raptor | i had no idea you could do that.. |
| 05:33:00 | zoomber | then i restarted it and it made a really loud crash sound in the speakers |
| 05:33:00 | raptor | results! |
| 05:33:00 | karamazovapy | tentative, but results |
| 05:33:00 | zoomber | and i screamed / didnt go back in for a few days :] |
| 05:34:00 | raptor | hahaha |
| 05:34:00 | raptor | cool |
| 05:34:00 | karamazovapy | I think I need a beer |
| 05:35:00 | karamazovapy | oh - zoomber - congratulations |
| 05:35:00 | karamazovapy | I think you're the definitive winner for this BBB |
| 05:35:00 | zoomber | oh, thankyou |
| 05:35:00 | zoomber | ok raptor : i am trying something in x11 right now |
| 05:35:00 | raptor | ok |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | oh, |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | ok |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | that is interesting |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | thats real interesting |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | I think X11 has its own version of Xcode |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | but |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | its an older version |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | infact its so old, it cant build newer bitfighter.xcodeproj |
| 05:36:00 | raptor | i think the solution is for them to get tiger on that old mac |
| 05:36:00 | zoomber | but only bitfighter.xcode project |
| 05:37:00 | zoomber | yeah, i agree with you 100% |
| 05:37:00 | zoomber | back when ryan made bitfighter for only 10.5 and 10.6, i was successfull in getting it to 10.4, but i think you remember, how there were alll those bugs |
| 05:37:00 | zoomber | alut mainly |
| 05:37:00 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 05:38:00 | raptor | i bet 10.3 has lots of bugs |
| 05:38:00 | raptor | they did a HUGE clean-up of bugs in libraries for Tiger, and then again for snow leopard |
| 05:38:00 | zoomber | yeah |
| 05:38:00 | zoomber | ill say |
| 05:40:00 | zoomber | hmmm |
| 05:40:00 | zoomber | ok, i have a neat idea |
| 05:40:00 | zoomber | im going to try compiling Zap! |
| 05:40:00 | zoomber | zap uses old tnl.xcode project file, and gcc 3 or 2 |
| 05:40:00 | zoomber | i think x11 can work wit that |
| 05:41:00 | zoomber | hmm |
| 05:41:00 | zoomber | its working so far |
| 05:41:00 | zoomber | oh eww errors |
| 05:42:00 | zoomber | raptor: forgot to ask, some macs dont have x11 on them, does your vm have it? |
| 05:42:00 | raptor | yes |
| 05:42:00 | raptor | i always install it when installing xcode |
| 05:42:00 | zoomber | k |
| 05:43:00 | zoomber | if you want to take a shot at building zap too, the source code is still up here. you need cvs to download it, or you can just get the tarball http://sourceforge.net/projects/opentnl/ |
| 05:44:00 | raptor | i did that once - but i'm not too interested |
| 05:44:00 | zoomber | just for the heck, since the xcodebuild on x11 still builds only the older project files |
| 05:44:00 | zoomber | you dont have to convert the project |
| 05:44:00 | raptor | ah, interesting |
| 05:44:00 | raptor | hmmm |
| 05:44:00 | zoomber | ahh, i tried changing |
| 05:45:00 | zoomber | # elif __GNUC__ == 3 on tnltypes.h:296 |
| 05:45:00 | zoomber | just for the heck of it; that was getting in the way |
| 05:47:00 | zoomber | it seems i cant build it because it cant find libtomcrypt framework |
| 05:47:00 | zoomber | gets errors like yarrow_read undeclared. and thats in libtomcrypt |
| 05:47:00 | raptor | ugh |
| 05:49:00 | zoomber | i think your right' its not worth it |
| 05:56:00 | zoomber | hmm, it looks like my servers are connected locally, but not to the internet |
| 05:56:00 | raptor | well good night... |
| 05:56:00 | karamazovapy | firewall party? |
| 05:56:00 | zoomber | local ip shows up in game browser for one server, so it must be up |
| 05:56:00 | karamazovapy | night |
| 05:56:00 | zoomber | night raptor |
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| 05:56:00 | zoomber | i would guess... |
| 05:56:00 | zoomber | maybe |
| 05:57:00 | zoomber | i'm going to take a stab at it for five minutes, and go to bed weather i fix it or not after |
| 05:57:00 | karamazovapy | that's what led me to finally paying for a vps |
| 05:57:00 | sam686 | Did you edit "MasterServer= |
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| 05:57:00 | karamazovapy | I had some screwy router issue that wouldn't pass my servers through to the master |
| 05:57:00 | sam686 | in cbitfighter.ini? |
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| 05:57:00 | zoomber | yeah; i am going to get one soon |
| 05:57:00 | sam686 | then run server? |
| 05:58:00 | zoomber | sorry, i got disconnected |
| 05:58:00 | zoomber | @_k: didnt edit masterserver= |
| 05:59:00 | zoomber | they were running fine earielr |
| 05:59:00 | sam686 | try restarting server? |
| 06:00:00 | sam686 | what server is missing from yours? |
| 06:00:00 | zoomber | i need to make sure this computer can even connect to interent |
| 06:00:00 | zoomber | all servers hosted from my house internet are gone |
| 06:00:00 | zoomber | but a local ip adress of one of them is still up |
| 06:00:00 | karamazovapy | router |
| 06:00:00 | zoomber | exactly |
| 06:01:00 | zoomber | just; i have a complicated double NAT setup |
| 06:01:00 | sam686 | probably DMZ is cutting (or preventing) internet from one of the computer? |
| 06:01:00 | zoomber | and its a bit trickier with this |
| 06:01:00 | zoomber | 1 sec; im takng your advice and restarting them |
| 06:03:00 | zoomber | hmmmm |
| 06:03:00 | zoomber | internet connection is fine |
| 06:03:00 | zoomber | on that computer |
| 06:04:00 | karamazovapy | router |
| 06:04:00 | | karamazovapy is now known as _k|out |
| 06:04:00 | zoomber | (INTERNET) ----- (router) ----- (TimeCapsule which has wireless + DMZ assigned) ------ (Server set as host in time capsule) |
| 06:05:00 | zoomber | thats where my server is |
| 06:05:00 | zoomber | ok, so the router? |
| 06:06:00 | zoomber | brbupdateing |
| 06:06:00 | zoomber | settings |
| 06:06:00 | zoomber | oh nvm its not restarting |
| 06:08:00 | zoomber | oh well... i was planning on shutting a few of them down anyways. if i get vps, ill probably make one big server. Although I still like the idea of kserv.bots, which has /getmap disabled so you can only play those good maps if you go on that server |
| 06:27:00 | zoomber | oook, im off |
| 06:27:00 | zoomber | good night |
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| 17:03:00 | raptor | good day |
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| 18:30:00 | karamazovapy | anybody know the name of the in-game font? |
| 18:39:00 | raptor | yes |
| 18:39:00 | raptor | as soon as i find it... |
| 18:40:00 | raptor | Roman |
| 18:40:00 | raptor | specifically "freeglut Roman stroke font" |
| 18:40:00 | raptor | but freeglut is the software project i stole it from.. |
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| 19:22:00 | karamazovapy | cool...thanks |
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