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| 00:33:00 | sam686 | i found something that speeds up my youtube uploads and possibly all TCP downloads / uploads for old windows XP computer: SG TCP optimizer http://www.google.com/search?q=tcp+optimizer |
| 00:49:00 | raptor | yeah tcp easily needs optimization on newer systems |
| 00:49:00 | raptor | i'll need to look into how to do it with linux.. |
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| 01:33:00 | Zoomber | hey karamazovapy, you on? |
| 01:33:00 | karamazovapy | ja |
| 01:34:00 | Zoomber | i'm about to buy a vps server and looking around at some better lowend deals. I found a place : spotvps.com that claims theyll give you 256Mb of guarenteed ram and 2 core cpu with 1k GB bandwidth for only 3 dollars a month. does that seem a bit too good to be true? |
| 01:34:00 | karamazovapy | all my stupid video re-encodes come back with less vivid colors...dammit... |
| 01:35:00 | karamazovapy | spotvps...hmm |
| 01:35:00 | Zoomber | sam686 has videos of each game as well too on youtube |
| 01:35:00 | karamazovapy | I know |
| 01:36:00 | sam686 | i think i got all my videos uploaded, i just need to name them, and put then in BBB5 playlist.. |
| 01:37:00 | karamazovapy | http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=1062095 |
| 01:38:00 | Zoomber | oh, thanks _k |
| 01:38:00 | karamazovapy | webhostingtalk reviews all these vps jobs |
| 01:38:00 | karamazovapy | they keep sending me e-mails, too |
| 01:38:00 | Zoomber | right |
| 01:38:00 | karamazovapy | I think you can generally trust the vibe you get from there |
| 01:38:00 | watusimoto | @z: post a link to your vps offer |
| 01:39:00 | watusimoto | I agree with @k about webhostingtalk |
| 01:39:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 01:39:00 | karamazovapy | http://spotvps.com/ |
| 01:39:00 | Zoomber | the link is here: http://spotvps.com/ |
| 01:40:00 | raptor | Zoomber: you wanted that VM? |
| 01:40:00 | karamazovapy | kind of looks too good to be true, but for $15 it's not much of a gamble |
| 01:40:00 | Zoomber | oh YEs Pleeees |
| 01:40:00 | watusimoto | the $3 per month looks fine |
| 01:40:00 | watusimoto | even $15 per year might work |
| 01:40:00 | watusimoto | for a server or two |
| 01:41:00 | watusimoto | personally, I'd start with that |
| 01:41:00 | Zoomber | someone on the web hosting talk thread from conforthost.net said they were a division of comforthost |
| 01:41:00 | watusimoto | well, if they suck, what have you lost |
| 01:41:00 | watusimoto | ? |
| 01:41:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, that guy seemed pretty responsive |
| 01:41:00 | Zoomber | true |
| 01:41:00 | karamazovapy | but the thread was only a week old |
| 01:41:00 | watusimoto | you're not getting married |
| 01:41:00 | Zoomber | im looking at comforthost.net righ tnow.. |
| 01:42:00 | watusimoto | it's cheap, and it's not critical |
| 01:42:00 | karamazovapy | they might be gone in two months, but it's a small investment |
| 01:42:00 | watusimoto | how many servers do you want to host? |
| 01:42:00 | Zoomber | ik, i was hoping to pay annually, but maybe ill go quarterly or something |
| 01:42:00 | sam686 | k: what video recorder do you use? seems like you have problems with it.. |
| 01:43:00 | Zoomber | watusimoto: I've already got a few servers up right now from my home, and another location that are up 24/7 |
| 01:43:00 | raptor | ok Zoomber: |
| 01:43:00 | Zoomber | i might shut down a few, and migrate a few others to this vps |
| 01:43:00 | watusimoto | how many altogether? |
| 01:43:00 | karamazovapy | it's not so much the video recorder as rendering in different codecs with editors |
| 01:43:00 | Zoomber | meh, was thinking of maybe 3 servers on the vps |
| 01:43:00 | watusimoto | I detect a slight upward tick |
| 01:43:00 | watusimoto | http://bitfighter.org/gamereports/graphs/ |
| 01:44:00 | Zoomber | but i doubt they will all be used at once |
| 01:44:00 | watusimoto | 120 days |
| 01:44:00 | watusimoto | memory is your only constraint |
| 01:44:00 | Zoomber | WOW raptor, only 1 and a half hours ! |
| 01:44:00 | watusimoto | 1 cpu should be sufficient |
| 01:44:00 | watusimoto | and the bandwidth and such are fine |
| 01:44:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 01:44:00 | karamazovapy | are you planning on running a dozen bots at once? |
| 01:44:00 | watusimoto | $3 will definitley work |
| 01:45:00 | watusimoto | that's what I have on my vps |
| 01:45:00 | Zoomber | it is 128 mbs guarenteed memory |
| 01:45:00 | raptor | it's a fast FTP site |
| 01:45:00 | sam686 | bitfighter only use one CPU for one bitfighter server.. |
| 01:45:00 | raptor | bitfighter is not multthreaded |
| 01:46:00 | raptor | some day maybe... |
| 01:46:00 | raptor | when bitfighter is the UI for all the major OSes |
| 01:46:00 | Zoomber | you mean like Tron style bitfighter? |
| 01:46:00 | karamazovapy | lol |
| 01:47:00 | karamazovapy | I figure my vps is less for a year than a month of my cell bill, so I don't worry about it |
| 01:48:00 | raptor | watusimoto: i have a technical question for you |
| 01:49:00 | watusimoto | yes |
| 01:49:00 | raptor | there are two types of keys: those that can be custom bound and static ones |
| 01:49:00 | watusimoto | I'll be back in about 5 mins... ask away and I'll reply when I get back |
| 01:49:00 | raptor | ok |
| 01:49:00 | raptor | watusimoto: what type do you want the editor keys? |
| 01:49:00 | raptor | (I am hoping for a 'static' response... :) |
| 01:51:00 | Zoomber | hmm, i looked at fraghost a year ago and thats sstill around |
| 01:51:00 | Zoomber | oh but that ones a 5 dollar |
| 01:51:00 | karamazovapy | I think the typical concerns are: 1) is the company reliable 2) will they still exist after you pay them money 3) will they address support problems you might have |
| 01:51:00 | Zoomber | right |
| 01:53:00 | Zoomber | hmm, seems you could get two 15 dollar / year vps servers as a better deal for bitfighter |
| 01:53:00 | Zoomber | instead of one 3 dollar vps per month |
| 01:53:00 | Zoomber | which is 36 dollar/year |
| 01:53:00 | raptor | Zoomber: make sure you have root access |
| 01:53:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, but you'd have to do everything twice |
| 01:53:00 | Zoomber | thanks raptor, is hould note that |
| 01:53:00 | raptor | (if someone already didn't mention) |
| 01:54:00 | watusimoto | I don't understand >> what type do you want the editor keys |
| 01:54:00 | raptor | do you want them to be custom bindable |
| 01:54:00 | raptor | or static |
| 01:54:00 | watusimoto | oh, I see |
| 01:54:00 | raptor | please say static |
| 01:54:00 | watusimoto | long term I think they should be bindable... |
| 01:54:00 | karamazovapy | static! |
| 01:54:00 | watusimoto | but... |
| 01:54:00 | watusimoto | short term I think static is fine |
| 01:54:00 | Zoomber | _k, i could copy bitfighter from one vps, and push it onto other? |
| 01:55:00 | raptor | it should matter too much, i'm just trying to reduce the work i need to do before i can compile again :) |
| 01:55:00 | watusimoto | right |
| 01:55:00 | watusimoto | start with static |
| 01:55:00 | karamazovapy | @z I'm not sure how you would do that |
| 01:55:00 | watusimoto | when we figure out how we;re doing bindable in game, we can migrate the editor |
| 01:56:00 | karamazovapy | I mean, you could use your home computer as a bridge and ftp between the two |
| 01:56:00 | watusimoto | back in an hour or so... |
| 01:56:00 | Zoomber | well, id have to use my computer as a middle man |
| 01:56:00 | Zoomber | and that could take a few secondes |
| 01:56:00 | raptor | Zoomber: rsync is your friend |
| 01:56:00 | Zoomber | meaning, seconds = hours |
| 01:57:00 | raptor | just rsync any data over SSH |
| 01:57:00 | karamazovapy | if I paid you six dollars, would you do that for me for a year? |
| 01:57:00 | Zoomber | yeah, thats a better idea |
| 01:57:00 | Zoomber | use my computer as a middleman ? |
| 01:57:00 | karamazovapy | sync two servers every time I want to change or update something |
| 01:58:00 | raptor | that's easy - use rsync over SSH in a cron job |
| 01:58:00 | raptor | set it up to sync nightly from one to the other |
| 01:58:00 | raptor | and then only push changes to one |
| 01:58:00 | karamazovapy | presumably, he doesn't want them to be identical, though |
| 01:59:00 | Zoomber | use Mercurial! |
| 01:59:00 | karamazovapy | the bitfighter system files, yes |
| 01:59:00 | karamazovapy | syncing nightly seems like a good way to waste bandwidth |
| 01:59:00 | Zoomber | alright, lets give spotvps a chance |
| 02:00:00 | karamazovapy | I'M JUST RACIST AGAINST TWIN SERVERS |
| 02:00:00 | raptor | load balancing is probably overkill for bitfighter |
| 02:01:00 | karamazovapy | I'm uploading an HD video from 3B5 with a Kill/Death/Ratio counter |
| 02:03:00 | Zoomber | hey karamazovapy and watusimoto : just curious, what vps hosting companies do you use? |
| 02:03:00 | karamazovapy | quickweb |
| 02:04:00 | Zoomber | quickwebz.co.nz? |
| 02:04:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, but I use their us vps |
| 02:04:00 | Zoomber | oh kk |
| 02:06:00 | Zoomber | i guess CentOS would be the best os to use? |
| 02:07:00 | karamazovapy | doesn't really matter...it's what I've got right now, though |
| 02:07:00 | sam686 | perferably it may be best to have the server at the middle, center of United States.. |
| 02:08:00 | sam686 | or maybe close to you.. |
| 02:08:00 | sam686 | for lower ping.. |
| 02:08:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, sam's got a point about picking a vps with a favorable geographic location |
| 02:08:00 | Zoomber | raptor : i'm going to modify the wiki on this page a bit. a few lines are out of date |
| 02:08:00 | Zoomber | http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Building_Bitfighter#Source |
| 02:08:00 | raptor | best place in the US is utah for server locations, specifically up in salt lake |
| 02:09:00 | raptor | much of the internet backbone goes up through the university of utah |
| 02:09:00 | karamazovapy | even better if your server goes through lansing, michigan |
| 02:09:00 | karamazovapy | much of my backbone goes up through lansing |
| 02:09:00 | raptor | haha |
| 02:10:00 | karamazovapy | just trying to be helpful |
| 02:11:00 | Zoomber | Firstname: Bit Lastname: Fighter Company Name:Bf |
| 02:14:00 | karamazovapy | you might want to just use your own name |
| 02:14:00 | karamazovapy | or your invoices will get directed to Bit Fighter |
| 02:15:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 02:15:00 | karamazovapy | Also, I have the death sentence on twelve systems. |
| 02:15:00 | Zoomber | dang, its too late |
| 02:20:00 | Zoomber | done and done |
| 02:20:00 | Zoomber | vps is mine |
| 02:22:00 | Zoomber | curious, why do vps servers like mine hvae so many ipv6 adresses? |
| 02:23:00 | sam686 | IPv6 holds 128-bit address, IPv4 only holds 32-bit address.. |
| 02:24:00 | Zoomber | right, so the reason for having so many? |
| 02:24:00 | sam686 | i don't know.. |
| 02:25:00 | Zoomber | is there a way to connect to one of them, even though i only have an ipv4 adress? |
| 02:25:00 | sam686 | probably to allow another computer (or virtual machine) have their one IPv6 without Network Address Translation... |
| 02:26:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 02:33:00 | Zoomber | hey karamazovapy , when you installed mercurial on your centOS vps, did it tell you there was no package available |
| 02:33:00 | Zoomber | ? |
| 02:35:00 | sam686 | somehow my download speed at 23.65 Mbps, upload 4.89. My speed is usually should be at 20 Mbps / 2 Mbps. Maybe thats why my youtube uploading got done fast for the last half of video upload.. |
| 02:39:00 | Zoomber | ah i found it on rpmforge |
| 02:39:00 | Zoomber | done! |
| 02:43:00 | raptor | zoomber, try to get the RPMs from your distro system first |
| 02:43:00 | Zoomber | wwweeeow raptor its already done |
| 02:43:00 | raptor | if redhat/centos, use 'yum' |
| 02:44:00 | Zoomber | the download already finished! |
| 02:44:00 | raptor | yum install mercurial |
| 02:44:00 | Zoomber | oh, thats what i did already |
| 02:44:00 | Zoomber | but thanks |
| 02:44:00 | sam686 | why is it named "YUM"? |
| 02:45:00 | Zoomber | because it tastes devine |
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| 02:48:00 | Zoomber | building from sam's hg clone |
| 02:49:00 | raptor | i have no idea |
| 02:49:00 | Zoomber | hmmm |
| 02:49:00 | raptor | the one for opensuse is called 'zypper' |
| 02:49:00 | Zoomber | hey raptor, have you tried building sam's clone on linux yet? i am getting alure errors |
| 02:50:00 | raptor | oh yeah - there were minor string problems - but no alure errors |
| 02:50:00 | Zoomber | its telling me it cant find al/alc.h |
| 02:50:00 | raptor | oh zoomber |
| 02:50:00 | raptor | you need to install openal-devel |
| 02:50:00 | raptor | openal-dev |
| 02:50:00 | sam686 | try make dedicated or something... |
| 02:50:00 | Zoomber | *facepalm |
| 02:51:00 | raptor | one of thos package names with yum |
| 02:51:00 | raptor | yeah - the linux build requires certain system things... |
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| 02:51:00 | Zoomber | must it be openal-dev or can it be just openal? |
| 02:51:00 | raptor | you need the -dev package |
| 02:51:00 | Zoomber | aah |
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| 02:52:00 | raptor | it let's you compile against it |
| 02:52:00 | Zoomber | hi flynn |
| 02:52:00 | Zoomber | n |
| 02:53:00 | Zoomber | this is good, right? http://pkgs.org/centos-5-rhel-5/centos-rhel-i386/opal-devel-2.2.2-1.1.0.1.i386.rpm.html |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | no |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | not opal |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | openal |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | or openal-soft-dev |
| 02:54:00 | Zoomber | ooh right |
| 02:54:00 | raptor | sometimes it's called openal-soft |
| 02:55:00 | karamazovapy | I pretty much just followed the wiki with a couple minor tweaks and didn't have any trouble |
| 02:56:00 | karamazovapy | just for reference, you are using a shell client and not the web interface, right? |
| 02:56:00 | Zoomber | oh, NOW it finds the package |
| 02:56:00 | karamazovapy | (...that's what...she said...?) |
| 02:57:00 | Zoomber | maybee |
| 02:57:00 | raptor | this is neat: http://howto.wired.com/wiki/Make_Homemade_Playdough_Circuits?oldid=77217 |
| 02:59:00 | Zoomber | meh, now i forgot GL stuff |
| 03:00:00 | Zoomber | i guess this server of mine doesnt have much on it? |
| 03:00:00 | raptor | it's usually barebones |
| 03:00:00 | karamazovapy | yeah, it should be more or less clean |
| 03:00:00 | raptor | but you are doing 'make dedicated'? |
| 03:01:00 | Zoomber | yes.. |
| 03:01:00 | Zoomber | odd? |
| 03:01:00 | Zoomber | well its working anyways now |
| 03:02:00 | Zoomber | ok, i think i have a critical problem |
| 03:02:00 | Zoomber | cc1plus: out of memory allocating 1048568 bytes after a total of 45166592 bytes |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | haha |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | that's crazy |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | type in 'free -m' |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | to see the ram |
| 03:03:00 | sam686 | the compiler ran out of memory? |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | 45 MB to compile should be there... |
| 03:03:00 | raptor | haha, yeah |
| 03:03:00 | Zoomber | total 256, used 23, free 232 |
| 03:04:00 | raptor | you have plenty! |
| 03:04:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 03:04:00 | Zoomber | oh no! |
| 03:04:00 | Zoomber | i need 4064 more bytes! |
| 03:04:00 | karamazovapy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfS81ysumS0 |
| 03:05:00 | Zoomber | raptor: id id it a second time an di get cc1plus: out of memory allocating 4064 bytes after a total of 44797952 bytes |
| 03:05:00 | Zoomber | but free -m shows only 24 mbs used |
| 03:05:00 | raptor | that's so weird |
| 03:05:00 | Zoomber | maybe i should restart server? |
| 03:06:00 | karamazovapy | are you out of RAM? |
| 03:06:00 | karamazovapy | maybe it's caching data |
| 03:06:00 | Zoomber | it thinks i am but i have 231 MBs free |
| 03:06:00 | sam686 | maybe there is something in the bitfighter coding causing compiler to use a bunch of memory... try see how much is free WHILE compiling.. |
| 03:06:00 | karamazovapy | 231 MB of HD space, right? |
| 03:06:00 | raptor | do make -j2 dedicated... |
| 03:06:00 | Zoomber | j2? |
| 03:06:00 | sam686 | -2 will use more memory.. |
| 03:06:00 | raptor | use two CPUs :) |
| 03:06:00 | sam686 | g -j2 |
| 03:06:00 | raptor | just to make it break for sure... |
| 03:09:00 | Zoomber | oh yeah, while it compiles, it uses 135 Mbs |
| 03:09:00 | Zoomber | but it still has 120 freee! |
| 03:09:00 | Zoomber | oh, i think it does go up further, DURING make |
| 03:10:00 | sam686 | whats that static junk at the bottom right of video, seen in some _k's videos.. |
| 03:10:00 | Zoomber | oh, it does use all 256 MB of ram |
| 03:10:00 | raptor | swapping should handle the rest.. |
| 03:10:00 | karamazovapy | buyakasha! |
| 03:10:00 | Zoomber | 0 total swap 0 used swap 0 free swap |
| 03:10:00 | Zoomber | 1 sec |
| 03:11:00 | Zoomber | oh, i think im supposed to have 256 burstable max and 128 of guarenteed |
| 03:11:00 | raptor | yikes, that's bad |
| 03:11:00 | Zoomber | does bf really use more than 256 MB of memory to compile? |
| 03:11:00 | raptor | i't might - but if there is swap space, it should be intelligent enough to reduce its memory when needed |
| 03:12:00 | raptor | type 'swapon -a' |
| 03:12:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 03:12:00 | raptor | and then check the swap space |
| 03:12:00 | Zoomber | Mem; 256, swap: 0 |
| 03:13:00 | raptor | ok, you'll have to create temporary swap out of RAM... |
| 03:13:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 03:15:00 | raptor | watusimoto's server has 128 MB ram |
| 03:15:00 | raptor | but 192 swap |
| 03:15:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 03:16:00 | Zoomber | how do i make swap space out of ram? |
| 03:16:00 | sam686 | can anyone read the time limit in this screenshot? (from _k's video) http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/video_problem.gif |
| 03:16:00 | raptor | haha |
| 03:16:00 | karamazovapy | 5:07 |
| 03:16:00 | Zoomber | it looks like 5:1007 |
| 03:17:00 | Zoomber | the 0 ontop of 1, and 3 ontop of 4 |
| 03:17:00 | sam686 | it llooks like bottom half is 8:14 |
| 03:17:00 | raptor | Zoomber: i found directions to make swap from ram, but the bigger question is: why don't you have swap? do you have hard disk space? |
| 03:17:00 | Zoomber | i should have at LEAST 10 GB, |
| 03:18:00 | sam686 | is swap enabled? |
| 03:18:00 | raptor | if possible, i would try and partition the space you have to have at least 128 - 256 of swap |
| 03:18:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 03:18:00 | raptor | type 'swapon -s' |
| 03:18:00 | Zoomber | nothing |
| 03:18:00 | raptor | will list swap drives |
| 03:18:00 | raptor | yikes! |
| 03:18:00 | Zoomber | no drives |
| 03:18:00 | karamazovapy | bitfightervideo has over 5000 views! huzzah! |
| 03:18:00 | raptor | yeah, you need to partition off 256 MB of swap or so |
| 03:19:00 | raptor | somehow.. |
| 03:19:00 | karamazovapy | ...or bite the bullet and pay $3 a month |
| 03:19:00 | raptor | what VPS again zoomber? |
| 03:19:00 | karamazovapy | softvps.com |
| 03:19:00 | Zoomber | (spot VPS) |
| 03:20:00 | karamazovapy | SPOT |
| 03:20:00 | karamazovapy | vps |
| 03:20:00 | karamazovapy | you got it |
| 03:20:00 | karamazovapy | SPOT |
| 03:20:00 | Zoomber | on |
| 03:20:00 | karamazovapy | the irc channel has been hoppin lately |
| 03:21:00 | karamazovapy | (by hoppin, I mean 8 people idling) |
| 03:21:00 | raptor | !logbot |
| 03:21:00 | karamazovapy | (or 7 and a bot) |
| 03:21:00 | karamazovapy | !ninjavanish |
| 03:21:00 | raptor | !help |
| 03:21:00 | BitfighterLogBot | type !commands to see a list of commands |
| 03:21:00 | raptor | !bot |
| 03:21:00 | BitfighterLogBot | I'm a real boy! |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !watusimoto |
| 03:22:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Supreme Overlord |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !sam686 |
| 03:22:00 | raptor | haha, i forgot i put that there.. |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !Zoomber |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !ZOOOOOOOOOOOMBER |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !raptor |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !karamazovapy |
| 03:22:00 | sam686 | !wAtUsImOtO |
| 03:22:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Supreme Overlord |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !WATUSIMOTO |
| 03:22:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Supreme Overlord |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !BitfighterLogBot |
| 03:22:00 | Zoomber | !bot |
| 03:22:00 | BitfighterLogBot | I'm a real boy! |
| 03:22:00 | karamazovapy | !wantsomegoddamncatfish |
| 03:23:00 | sam686 | !bot !bot !bot |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !RAP tor |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | catfish? |
| 03:23:00 | karamazovapy | !NINJA |
| 03:23:00 | karamazovapy | !NINJA |
| 03:23:00 | karamazovapy | !RAP |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | tor |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !HELP |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | type !commands to see a list of commands |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !COMMANDS |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Commands: airlock bbb bitfighter bot bug dedicated feature help hg log mercurial watusimoto |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !AIRLOCK |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | the bestest level EVAR!!1 |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !bbb |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Big Bitfighter Battle! |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !bitfighter |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Fast, Fun, Frenetic |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !dedicated |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | To run your own dedicated server in linux, see: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Hosting_multiple_servers_on_Linux and http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Updating_a_Linux_server_to_the_latest_code |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !feature |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | To make a feature request, post in the forums at http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=4 or open an issue at: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list |
| 03:23:00 | karamazovapy | you're not gonna do all of them, are you? |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | !mercurial |
| 03:23:00 | BitfighterLogBot | Distributed version control system used with Bitfighter. See: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=Contribute_using_Mercurial |
| 03:23:00 | Zoomber | oh |
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| 03:24:00 | | Topic is 'Latest release 015a http://bitfighter.org | Forums: http://bitfighter.org/forums/ | GC Project: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/' |
| 03:24:00 | | Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Sat Apr 30 22:51:58 PDT 2011 |
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| 03:24:00 | Zoomber | is it? |
| 03:24:00 | raptor | !ninja |
| 03:24:00 | BitfighterLogBot | ninjas die in space |
| 03:24:00 | Zoomber | !batman |
| 03:24:00 | Zoomber | !giraffe |
| 03:25:00 | raptor | ok, i need to go watch stargate with the wife.. |
| 03:25:00 | Zoomber | wait |
| 03:25:00 | Zoomber | it responds to ninja? |
| 03:25:00 | Zoomber | !NINJA |
| 03:25:00 | BitfighterLogBot | ninjas die in space |
| 03:25:00 | karamazovapy | raptor has cool wife. |
| 03:25:00 | raptor | thanks! |
| 03:25:00 | raptor | be back later.. |
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| 03:25:00 | karamazovapy | arright. I'm gonna go do something exciting |
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| 03:26:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | k|out? |
| 03:26:00 | sam686 | zOOOOOOOOOOmber woo many OOO? |
| 03:26:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | SAAAAAAAAM686 |
| 03:27:00 | | [sam686 PING] |
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| 03:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | interesting, i think comforthost just made a ui-update to their client area right as i was browsing it |
| 03:34:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | this is odd/interesting |
| 03:39:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | now its telling me i have 23.5 GB of ram, with 356.8 MB free, but i cant connect to it via ssh |
| 03:42:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | great, i cant connect to the server.. |
| 03:45:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | seems my server keeps crashing |
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| 04:28:00 | watusimoto | @raptor? |
| 04:28:00 | watusimoto | rats... looks like he left |
| 04:29:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | hey watusimoto you still there? |
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| 05:54:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit 5258044c2f64 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Restored functionality of ctrl, alt, and shift keys in the editor, and probably elsewhere in the game |
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| 06:33:00 | zoomber_ | Booooo segmentation faults |
| 06:36:00 | sam686 | segmentation fault aften means it crash.. |
| 06:36:00 | zoomber_ | yesh |
| 06:36:00 | zoomber_ | i get: |
| 06:36:00 | zoomber_ | root@bitfigher:~/bitfighter/exe# ./bitfighter -dedicated Welcome to Bitfighter! |
| 06:36:00 | zoomber_ | AL lib: oss.c:173: Could not open /dev/dsp: Permission denied |
| 06:36:00 | zoomber_ | Failed to intitialize OpenAL. |
| 06:36:00 | zoomber_ | Segmentation fault |
| 06:37:00 | zoomber_ | i accidentally made bitfighter as a client package, not bitfighterd as dedicated |
| 06:37:00 | sam686 | first, try "make dedicated -B" that -B will force recompile. |
| 06:37:00 | zoomber_ | can i still use the -dedicated function? shuoldn't it make no difference weather i use -dedciated or build it with only dedicated? |
| 06:37:00 | zoomber_ | ok |
| 06:38:00 | sam686 | if it is compiled as dedicated, you don;t have to use -dedicated when running binary.. |
| 06:38:00 | zoomber_ | right, but shuoldn't it also work if i just use -dedicated? even if the server doesnt support bitfighter without -dedicated? |
| 06:39:00 | zoomber_ | i.e. the game runs on my server too if i dont have -dedciated, but it will say, Failed to connect glut display.......etc |
| 06:39:00 | sam686 | it doesn't matter, it will run as dedicated, if the binary was compiled as dedicated "make dedicated" |
| 06:39:00 | zoomber_ | but then maybe the -dedicated is related to having no ini or levels maybe? |
| 06:40:00 | sam686 | it will not seg fault with no levels, but will not run with a message. |
| 06:40:00 | zoomber_ | i know, but i accidentally compiled the server before with just make |
| 06:40:00 | zoomber_ | and it made a client build, for a server |
| 06:40:00 | zoomber_ | so i just tried using -dedicated while running it |
| 06:40:00 | zoomber_ | and it got seg fault |
| 06:40:00 | zoomber_ | so I am trying what you said. i am using make dedicated -B |
| 06:40:00 | zoomber_ | ok its compiled now |
| 06:41:00 | zoomber_ | oh, now it works, awesome |
| 06:41:00 | zoomber_ | want to go on to test its speed? |
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| 13:09:00 | koda | hi |
| 13:09:00 | koda | i watched a video of bitfighter recently |
| 13:10:00 | koda | it's has some really nice improvements |
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| 20:24:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | hey sam686 |
| 20:24:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 20:24:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | do you ever compile windows on ubuntu? |
| 20:25:00 | sam686 | compile what? |
| 20:25:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | compile bitfighter* |
| 20:25:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | sorrry |
| 20:25:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 20:26:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | i get stuff like, "voiceCodec.cpp:(.text+0xc6): undefined reference to `speex_bits_read_from'" I know what to do to fix that in mac, but i dont know how to fix it in linux server.. |
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| 20:27:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | hi raptor |
| 20:27:00 | raptor | you need speex-dev package |
| 20:27:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | thanks |
| 20:27:00 | raptor | linux building requires more dependencies - because usually the system can provide them already (unlike windows/mac) |
| 20:28:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | right |
| 20:29:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | no package speex-dev, or speex-devel, maybe under different name? |
| 20:29:00 | raptor | oh, libspeex |
| 20:29:00 | raptor | libspeex-devf |
| 20:29:00 | raptor | -dev |
| 20:29:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | yeah, thats it |
| 20:30:00 | sam686 | zoomber, to keep bitfighter running when you start in terminal, 1. run bitfighter command adding a & at the end of command, or while running presss CTRL + Z and type a command bg. 2. type a command disown |
| 20:31:00 | sam686 | if you want to kill all bitfighter, use a command: killall bitfighter |
| 20:31:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | you mean to keep it running when i leave terminal? |
| 20:31:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 20:31:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | i usually just use screen |
| 20:31:00 | raptor | ah screen... |
| 20:32:00 | sam686 | thats the alternative without using 'screen" |
| 20:32:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | hey raptor, what do i do after i install that, how do I include that framework with make? |
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| 20:33:00 | raptor | the sources should auto detect it now |
| 20:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | hi karamazovapy |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | jus tinstall |
| 20:33:00 | karamazovapy | holler |
| 20:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | i did that, but the errors remain |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | really??? |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | hmmm... |
| 20:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | yep |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | are you doing a dedicated build? |
| 20:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | still same undefined references |
| 20:33:00 | karamazovapy | still trying to build on your vps? |
| 20:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | yeah |
| 20:33:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | maybe i can disinclude voice codecs? |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | what source are you building? |
| 20:34:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | what need is it for server? |
| 20:34:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | this source https://sam8641-bitfighter04.googlecode.com/hg/ |
| 20:34:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | sam686's |
| 20:35:00 | raptor | there's a change the makefile for dedicated isn't fully working.. |
| 20:35:00 | raptor | let me look |
| 20:35:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | ok |
| 20:35:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | note: i use his source for voting |
| 20:35:00 | karamazovapy | have you been able to build the regular stable version yet? |
| 20:35:00 | sam686 | are you sure speex-dev is installed? mine build without errors.. |
| 20:35:00 | raptor | can you paste the exact error? |
| 20:35:00 | raptor | and actually, it should build without need libspeex.. |
| 20:35:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | yes, i can build the reagular stable version |
| 20:35:00 | raptor | i included that in the repo |
| 20:36:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | speex-dev is installed |
| 20:36:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | ok |
| 20:36:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | i will paste the error |
| 20:37:00 | raptor | hmmm... it shouldn't need openal, either |
| 20:37:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | oh. NOW it compiels |
| 20:37:00 | raptor | hehe |
| 20:39:00 | karamazovapy | it's because I'm here |
| 20:39:00 | karamazovapy | I've got the touch |
| 20:39:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | exactly |
| 20:40:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | um, rotating speed pointer sam686? |
| 20:40:00 | sam686 | you can /getmap in my server.. |
| 20:42:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | wow i gotta take alook at how you did that in the level |
| 20:43:00 | sam686 | oh thats probably using a R=2.5 in SpeedZone line |
| 20:44:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | ah |
| 20:44:00 | sam686 | i will go, i may be back in 2 hours |
| 20:45:00 | ZOOOOOMBER | bye |
| 20:46:00 | raptor | watusimoto: i'm back for a bit if you wanted to ask something |
| 20:56:00 | watusimoto | @raptor: Figured it out |
| 20:56:00 | raptor | okey doke |
| 21:00:00 | watusimoto | modifier keys now working |
| 21:00:00 | watusimoto | I think the existing keycode system is working just fine |
| 21:00:00 | watusimoto | not sure we need an overhaul |
| 21:01:00 | raptor | i ask myself that every time i start on the code again.. |
| 21:01:00 | | BitfighterLogBot - Commit dc0e98663758 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Again restored functionality of ctrl, alt, and shift keys, this time without breaking stuff |
| 21:02:00 | watusimoto | for keyboard, everything is now working, afaik |
| 21:02:00 | watusimoto | and mouse |
| 21:03:00 | watusimoto | and probably joystick, but not really sure |
| 21:03:00 | watusimoto | I'd suggest focusing on rendering issues such as full screen mode |
| 21:04:00 | watusimoto | I've got to step out for a while... back later. |
| 21:06:00 | raptor | i'll beback alter, too |
| 21:06:00 | raptor | later |
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