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IRC Log for 2011-08-15

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02:31:00zoomber_laptopsam686 on?
02:32:00sam686hi
02:32:00zoomber_laptopsam686 on my VPS server recently?, saw you installed a package i wanted to install
02:32:00sam686yes, on 208 server..
02:32:00zoomber_laptopok
02:33:00zoomber_laptopdid you add ## (remove this line?) * * * * * root f Opyum Team?
02:33:00zoomber_laptopwas * * * * * root f Opyum Team there before?
02:33:00sam686i commented it out, and i removed f and i binaries
02:33:00zoomber_laptopnot good, i tried to delete that crontab a while ago, and it the virus must have put it back up, which you commented out after
02:34:00zoomber_laptopprobably best thing to do is reinstall VPS?
02:34:00sam686maybe... not usre how to fix huge junk in linux set command
02:35:00zoomber_laptopWOW sam, you did ALOT
02:35:00sam686this is kind of what i did in command lines: http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/208fixes.txt
02:35:00zoomber_laptopis user Aquata part of the virus?
02:35:00zoomber_laptopaquoata?
02:36:00sam686aquotata?
02:36:00zoomber_laptop[root@bitfighter ~]# user aquota
02:36:00zoomber_laptopfound this in bash-history
02:37:00zoomber_laptopalso saw it when i was using filezilla as my ssh client a while ago..
02:37:00sam686aquota is not part of virus (usually not)
02:37:00zoomber_laptopoh
02:37:00sam686something to do with quota
02:37:00zoomber_laptopany idea what it is?
02:38:00zoomber_laptopis there a -name command when running a dedicated server to specify processname?
02:40:00sam686process name?i don't think so
02:40:00sam686i think the only way to rename a process is to rename a binary file..
02:43:00zoomber_laptopwhat it shows in ps ax?
02:43:00zoomber_laptopthought it was possible
02:45:00sam686but, ps ax does show the command line parameters that was used to start a process
02:45:00zoomber_laptopok
02:45:00zoomber_laptopgood point
02:45:00zoomber_laptopim going to start a process, but in the event you go back on, i want you to know i started it, and not the virus, so i will see if i can use an -arg if i can...
02:46:00zoomber_laptopnot sure if app will let me use any arg though
02:46:00sam686ok..
02:47:00zoomber_laptopbut probably dont matter as i will reinstall OS to be on the safe side
02:47:00sam686ok..
02:47:00zoomber_laptopbut wow, i really appreciate your help there
02:48:00sam686though i think i stopped the problem from auto-starting up, but probably not all the problem is gone, like the set problem.
02:49:00zoomber_laptopoh
02:49:00zoomber_laptopyes, i saw that problem too
02:50:00sam686maybe that explain why bitfighter dedicated crash for a past few days or a past week, srever ran out of memory from thousands of "i" process
02:51:00zoomber_laptoppossibly..
02:51:00zoomber_laptopseems it was the server on 74... (bitfighter main;) that crashes the most
02:51:00sam686while the "i" and "f" is gone for good for now, not sure if it will stay that way for ever...
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02:52:00raptorhello hello
02:52:00zoomber_laptopwhy hello there sir
02:53:00raptorstill trying to clean up the server?
02:53:00sam686one of a current problem is set command outputs too much: http://96.2.123.136/bitfighter/set_big.txt
02:54:00raptorhow is that a problem?
02:55:00raptorthat looks pretty standard on most linux distros
02:55:00sam686not sure... 74 .122.199.250 server outputs only less then 30 lines
02:55:00sam686when using a command: set
02:56:00sam686208.115.198.220 server, the "set" outputs thousands of lines..
02:56:00raptorah, that is common for centos basic server setup
02:56:00raptorset | wc -l
02:56:00raptor4662
02:56:00raptoron my laptop
02:56:00raptor49 on watusimoto's server
02:57:00zoomber_laptophi raptor
02:57:00raptorhi
02:57:00sam686oh well, but i think that server at 208.115.198.220 is pretty much cleaned up, if the problem was only the "F" and "i" process was being run, now deleted....
02:57:00zoomber_laptopoh, i already said that, silly me
02:58:00raptordid you reinstall the sshd server?
02:58:00zoomber_laptopunfortunately, i sent a reinstall ticket to my vps before sam686 fixed it
02:58:00raptorforce a reinstall from centos repository
02:58:00raptorok good
02:58:00raptorthat'll get it
02:58:00raptorthat is probably best
02:59:00zoomber_laptopthey are taking a while to get to my server though, so sam probably didnt know..
02:59:00sam686at least i got to play around a bit and just fix some problems..
02:59:00zoomber_laptopalthough im impressed at what sam686 did with it
02:59:00raptordid you check the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file?
03:00:00raptoractually it doesn't matter if a reinstall is coming
03:00:00raptornevermind
03:00:00zoomber_laptopsam686, feel free to play around with my servers as much as you want, with anything you want, as long as there is enough memory for my bitfighter / armagetron servers, and you dont install minecraft :]
03:06:00sam686password can easily be guessed when using very weak password. If a passwork easily come up with more then thousands, it is probably not a safe password, like alpine: http://www.google.com/search?q=alpine
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03:07:00sam686alpine in google search: About 153,000,000 results
03:08:00raptorwell looks like that password can't be used anymore
03:08:00raptor:)
03:08:00zoomber_laptopapple uses it as its default password, and at the time, i was really only good at rembering 5 good letters
03:08:00zoomber_laptopnow mines 18 characters including 3 numbers
03:09:00raptorhaha
03:09:00sam686i have my 8 character password (numbers + letters) that comes up with zero google search results
03:12:00raptorwhat issue should I work on next?
03:13:00zoomber_laptop_k's issue
03:13:00raptorwhich one?
03:13:00zoomber_laptopmy pass has 0 results too
03:14:00zoomber_laptopthe one about people not voting on his contest! GO VOTE
03:14:00raptorhaha
03:14:00raptori was the first to vote
03:14:00zoomber_laptopi might have made the deciding vote
03:15:00zoomber_laptopoh
03:15:00zoomber_laptopnevermind
03:15:00zoomber_laptopit seems two more voters after me changed up the game a bit..
03:16:00raptorhey sam686 were we seriously considering making bouncers more effective against armor?
03:17:00raptorwas that one of your ideas, karamazovapy?
03:17:00sam686probably k's idea..
03:18:00sam686it wasn't my idea.
03:18:00raptordo you know if watusimoto approved it?
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03:21:00raptormaybe i'll just work on watusimoto's issues...
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03:56:00raptorthe problem is that the issue list isn't new and exciting stuff...
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05:01:00karamazovapywe talked about making bouncers more effective against armor, and watusimoto liked the idea
05:01:00karamazovapybut we never talked specifics
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14:49:00raptorgood morning!
15:12:00raptorso say bouncers are 50% more effective against armor? i.e. requiring only 2/3 the hits?
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15:20:00zoomber_laptopim in pain
15:20:00raptortake deep breaths
15:21:00zoomber_laptopall my servers are down, and my 74..vps is suspendd again
15:21:00zoomber_laptopSuspension Reason: Email limits exceeded. Temporary 24h suspension.
15:21:00zoomber_laptopi thought i shut down this mailing
15:22:00zoomber_laptopand i may just stop using servers on 208 if they keep crashing...both are gone.
15:25:00raptoryou have a reinstall request for both?
15:25:00zoomber_laptoponly for 208..but its been two days since I sent that
15:26:00zoomber_laptop74 i had to reinstall eariler this month, and have started off again with a very secure password, i dont think that needs a reinstall, unless its something idid..
15:26:00zoomber_laptopheres the worst part
15:26:00raptorwas it compromised since the reinstall?
15:27:00zoomber_laptopSuspension Reason: Email limits exceeded. Temporary 24h suspension.
15:27:00zoomber_laptopi can still log on to 208 server..
15:27:00zoomber_laptop74 server has been shutdown because of this stupid email thing^
15:27:00zoomber_laptopbut to the worst part:
15:27:00raptorso 74 server was not compromised since the reinstall
15:28:00zoomber_laptopno
15:28:00zoomber_laptopwe put in the crontab for bitfighter though
15:28:00zoomber_laptopa
15:28:00zoomber_laptopand i got all those emails which got me suspended again
15:28:00zoomber_laptopso i got it unsuspended and we tried to disable mailing
15:28:00zoomber_laptopnow, about 3 days later, it has shown me this suspension notice
15:29:00zoomber_laptopthats a 24 hour suspension that will release in the middle of the night,
15:29:00raptorahhh
15:29:00zoomber_laptopif it gets released when they say it will, i will have no way of fixing whatever is causing them to suspend this for another 4 hours or so..
15:29:00raptorcan you have them change th release time?
15:29:00zoomber_laptopthe release?
15:30:00zoomber_laptopo
15:30:00zoomber_laptopoh
15:30:00zoomber_laptopmaybe..
15:30:00raptorlike extend the suspension for another 8 hours
15:30:00raptorso you can get to it
15:30:00zoomber_laptopcould request them not to start up the server when they unsuspend it..
15:30:00raptorthat seems logical
15:31:00zoomber_laptopi dont know..im sick of it, ive been trying to fix this crontab for a whole week, and apparently, something is still wrong.
15:31:00raptorwelcome to the world of IT
15:31:00zoomber_laptopon the 208 server, i know it did not restart, but the bitfighter-server log says nothing about my server crashing
15:31:00zoomber_laptopnothing..
15:32:00zoomber_laptopLoading Heatsink [heatsink.level]... Done. [2011-08-14 Sun 05:22:09]
15:32:00zoomber_laptopat least i know when it stopped working..
15:36:00zoomber_laptopi have no way of de-doing anything of this situation
15:36:00zoomber_laptopraptor: does bitfighter log any crash? even if its just 'crash' if it cant find what happened?
15:37:00zoomber_laptopi know some things get logged when they fail, but its just disappeared, almost like it was just shutdown
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15:37:00raptorzoomber_laptop: not really, as far as i know
15:38:00raptorbest thing to do is compile with debugging symbols and somehow get a backtrace any time it crashes
15:38:00zoomber_laptopdoesn't it go much slower then? will my VPS be able to handle it?
15:38:00raptornot much really
15:38:00zoomber_laptopok
15:39:00raptorit is slower if it is run in a debugger, but just having the symbols in place isn't too bad
15:39:00raptorlike if you ran it in gdb
15:39:00raptorthen you would take a huge performance hit
15:39:00zoomber_laptopok
15:42:00zoomber_laptopto make matters, worse, i dont really have that much time to work on this right now anyways, i gotta go in 3 minutes
15:42:00raptor:(
15:42:00zoomber_laptopok, i read a page on it
15:42:00raptorit'll get sorted eventually
15:42:00zoomber_laptoptold me gcc -g is usually a flag..
15:42:00raptoryes
15:42:00zoomber_laptopok
15:43:00raptoradd the -g flag and remove the -O2 flag in the make file
15:43:00zoomber_laptopok
15:43:00zoomber_laptopfor every file?
15:43:00raptorjust the make file in zap/ folder
15:43:00zoomber_laptopok
15:43:00raptorit's only used in one place
15:43:00zoomber_laptopill do that when i get back
15:43:00zoomber_laptopg
15:43:00zoomber_laptopgotta run
15:43:00raptorlater
15:43:00zoomber_laptopbye
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18:33:00zoomber_laptophi sam686
18:34:00sam686hi
18:34:00zoomber_laptopsaw you launched a server for me
18:35:00sam686the problem was it wasn't updated to my latest 015a clone..
18:35:00zoomber_laptopah ok
18:35:00sam686there is problems with clone bot and level having a line "Ship"
18:36:00zoomber_laptopyou know, you can put bitfighter sam686 server on there for less lag or debugging if you want, i don't really mind.
18:36:00sam686i fixed my clone to stop the crash, but my clone bot will not work with levels having "Ship"
18:36:00zoomber_laptopok
18:37:00sam686ok... but for now, can't connect to http://74.122.199.250/
18:37:00zoomber_laptopprobably for me going to have only <gibbed> up now, for nostalgia, leaving lots of power on this vps if you want to..
18:37:00zoomber_laptop74..got suspended again, sadly
18:37:00zoomber_laptopthis time, a 24 hour suspension, for mail limit or something..
18:38:00sam686to stop crontab from mailing, try MAILTO=""
18:38:00zoomber_laptopthought i got mail turned off, so not sure
18:38:00zoomber_laptopyes
18:38:00zoomber_laptopand possibly to empty my mail also?
18:38:00zoomber_laptopill show you the suspension reason
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18:38:00zoomber_laptopSuspension Reason: Email limits exceeded. Temporary 24h suspension.
18:40:00raptorinstantly empty root mail: '> /var/mail/root'
18:42:00zoomber_laptopthanks
18:43:00zoomber_laptopbe back later
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19:45:00karamazovapyAWESOME.
19:45:00karamazovapyhttp://money.cnn.com/2011/08/15/technology/google_motorola/index.htm?hpt=hp_t2
19:48:00raptorinteresting move
19:48:00karamazovapyI'm just imagining the android devices they're going to make
19:48:00raptorhopefully it will do a lot of good in the stupid patent wars
19:49:00raptoroh yeah - bleeding edge to the customers all the time, i'm sure
19:49:00karamazovapyI think those will go back and forth no matter what
19:52:00karamazovapydoes it bother anyone else the way the media now considers a DDoS attack "hacking"?
19:52:00raptoryep
19:52:00raptorthere is no force like an uninformed public
19:53:00raptoror misinformed
19:53:00karamazovapyI'm sick of it
19:53:00karamazovapyit requires no knowlege or effort. it's not hacking.
19:53:00raptorback in the day, 'hacking' meant good guys 'cracking' meant bad guys
19:53:00raptorbut that has been distorted, too
19:54:00karamazovapythat one's been distorted for a long time, on the hack end
19:57:00karamazovapythis is hilarious - http://www.cnn.com/2011/TRAVEL/08/15/cathay.pacific.sex.scandal.ads/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
20:00:00karamazovapy"meet the team who go the extra mile to make you feel special."
20:06:00karamazovapyHTC is buying Beats Electronics
20:48:00sam686this may be a problem, when building in zap directory, can't do "Make debug dedicated" as it will not do both debug and dedicated...
20:52:00raptorsam686: yes, I should do a dedicated_debug
20:52:00raptorexcept there is no way dedicated compiles in trunk right now
20:53:00sam686i was trying it for older 015..
20:53:00raptori can get you a quick patch...
20:59:00raptorhttp://pastie.org/2377107
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22:08:00BFLogBot - Commit e6edab22286b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Rename emitAsteroid method, circles now shootable, are spawned in clusters
22:08:00BFLogBot - Commit 0e304b972834 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Better handling of circle/client/server stuff
22:09:00raptorooo shootable
22:09:00raptorhow is boston?
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23:09:00karamazovapycontest...6-6 tie
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