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| 01:55:00 | raptor | sam686, watusimoto: the most recent checking crashes the game when trying to shoot the circles, does it give a segfault to you, too? |
| 02:16:00 | watusimoto | no |
| 02:16:00 | watusimoto | works for me |
| 02:16:00 | raptor | segfault - something about luavec |
| 02:16:00 | raptor | let me get stack trace again... |
| 02:16:00 | watusimoto | luavec??? |
| 02:16:00 | watusimoto | there's no lua involved |
| 02:16:00 | raptor | exactly... |
| 02:16:00 | watusimoto | well, no matter, these are probably just demo objects anyway |
| 02:17:00 | watusimoto | getting too many really bogs things down |
| 02:18:00 | raptor | were you seriously considering making bouncers do more damage to armor? |
| 02:19:00 | watusimoto | yes, why not? |
| 02:19:00 | watusimoto | it might help make bouncers more popular |
| 02:19:00 | raptor | ok |
| 02:19:00 | watusimoto | We could try it anyway, and see how it works |
| 02:20:00 | raptor | i was thinking 50% more effective; or 2/3 as many shots required to kill |
| 02:20:00 | watusimoto | sounds perfect; I want to find a way to do a swarming weapon/monster (like asteroids) without killing the network |
| 02:21:00 | raptor | maybe make it one monster with randomly moving parts? |
| 02:23:00 | watusimoto | that's what I was thinking -- maybe abstract the swarm somehow |
| 02:27:00 | raptor | i've been working on one issue a week, it seems |
| 02:27:00 | raptor | have you noticed the new sensor changes? |
| 02:30:00 | watusimoto | no -- what are they? |
| 02:30:00 | raptor | sensor is half-passive now |
| 02:31:00 | raptor | the sensor zoom is passive, but cloak/mine detection is active with an initial energy requirement |
| 02:34:00 | raptor | it was one of the issues... |
| 02:38:00 | watusimoto | ok, great |
| 02:38:00 | watusimoto | what do you think -- good change? |
| 02:38:00 | raptor | i think so - maybe the zoom is a little far out to be passive |
| 02:38:00 | raptor | not sure though |
| 02:39:00 | watusimoto | we could easily adjust that |
| 02:40:00 | raptor | you'd have to take a look |
| 03:00:00 | karamazovapy | the beer I just bought clearly got warm after it was chille |
| 03:00:00 | karamazovapy | d |
| 03:08:00 | watusimoto | looking at source for liquidwar (http://www.gnu.org/software/liquidwar6/), trying to see how they do swarms |
| 03:08:00 | raptor | ahhh... |
| 03:08:00 | raptor | i played liquidwar 5 wit my brother a lot |
| 03:08:00 | watusimoto | interesting game |
| 03:35:00 | raptor | any crash yet, sam686? |
| 03:36:00 | sam686 | i haven't seen any crash yet, other then making bitfighterd use too much memory and crash.. |
| 03:37:00 | raptor | oh! i was going to get a stack trace on the segfaul with watusimoto's latest commit... |
| 03:37:00 | sam686 | using /addbots 200 0 timer 1 (that 1 will send stats every 1 milliseconds) will slowly eat more and more memory because chat sending are buffering more and more, faster then it can send. |
| 03:38:00 | sam686 | but, that isn't the reason it crash before.. |
| 03:39:00 | raptor | yeah |
| 03:39:00 | raptor | ok watusimoto: here is your stack trace for segfault with shooting circles |
| 03:39:00 | raptor | http://pastie.org/2378651 |
| 03:41:00 | raptor | it looks like it is tryong to grab lua state, but it's null |
| 03:41:00 | sam686 | umm what shooting circles? |
| 03:42:00 | raptor | watusimoto made a commit to allow shooting the new Circle swarm enemy |
| 03:42:00 | raptor | but it crashes |
| 03:42:00 | raptor | you can add a circle-spawn in the editor |
| 03:42:00 | raptor | it spawns 10 circles every 20 seconds |
| 03:43:00 | sam686 | i see, it shows up several red circles.. |
| 03:43:00 | sam686 | no errors for me.. |
| 03:46:00 | raptor | so weird.. |
| 03:46:00 | raptor | i'll do a full recompile.. |
| 03:46:00 | raptor | again |
| 03:47:00 | sam686 | huh,, that stack trace don't make sence - how does it get to getLoc from inside the findFirstCollision? |
| 03:47:00 | raptor | exactly |
| 03:48:00 | sam686 | most likely, something wrone with your build.. |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | ok full clean again - crash |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | same issue |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | same trace |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | this time, circle didn't even appear |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | i just shot |
| 03:49:00 | raptor | here is detailed trace: http://pastie.org/2378685 |
| 03:49:00 | sam686 | does it crash if you join my 016? |
| 03:49:00 | raptor | ok, let me |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | i see no server |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | unable to connect to master |
| 03:50:00 | sam686 | use /connect 96.2.123.136 |
| 03:51:00 | sam686 | i take that as you crash... |
| 03:51:00 | raptor | same crash |
| 03:51:00 | raptor | haha |
| 03:51:00 | raptor | same trace |
| 03:53:00 | sam686 | i have just found one more bug: /suspend don't work right |
| 03:53:00 | watusimoto | there are no circles for 20 secs |
| 03:54:00 | raptor | this crash is crazy! |
| 03:54:00 | raptor | how on earth does it go from moveObject.cpp:334 to Zap::Projectile::getLoc() |
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| 03:56:00 | watusimoto | no clue! |
| 03:56:00 | sam686 | this might be the problem: MoveObject *otherShip = (MoveObject *) foundObject ... what if foundObject is not a MoveObject? |
| 03:57:00 | watusimoto | we could assert it |
| 03:57:00 | raptor | how would i do that? |
| 03:57:00 | watusimoto | change it to a dynamic cast : |
| 03:58:00 | sam686 | BulletTypeNumber is part of isMoveableType, but projectile may not be MoveObject |
| 03:58:00 | watusimoto | otherShip = dynamic_cast<MoveObject *>9foundObject) |
| 03:58:00 | watusimoto | TNLAssert(otherShip, "bogus!"); |
| 03:59:00 | raptor | i guess i don't understand dynamic_cast... |
| 04:00:00 | watusimoto | that's probably it, sam |
| 04:00:00 | sam686 | dynamic_cast<MoveObject *> will be null (zero) if it is not able to cast to MoveObject |
| 04:00:00 | watusimoto | cynamic_cast returns NULL if the type you're casting to doesn't make sense |
| 04:00:00 | watusimoto | circles are not moveobjects |
| 04:00:00 | raptor | interesting! |
| 04:01:00 | raptor | cool |
| 04:01:00 | watusimoto | but they are moveabletypes |
| 04:01:00 | watusimoto | (MoveObject *) blah |
| 04:01:00 | sam686 | using (MoveObject *) foundObject will not check if other class is MoveObject or not, and will crash when converting to something that is not part of MoveObject |
| 04:01:00 | watusimoto | just forces things to be wihtout any ... damn, beat me again |
| 04:02:00 | raptor | i threw the dynamic_cast on, and all of a sudden eclipse says that otherShip->getCollisionCircle() can't be resolved |
| 04:02:00 | watusimoto | well, the problem is that circles (probably) need to be moveobjects |
| 04:03:00 | watusimoto | unfortunately, I need to get to bed, so I won' be able to do that tonight |
| 04:03:00 | watusimoto | maybe circles will become heat seekers... I could find no info on how to design a network-efficient swarm entity |
| 04:04:00 | watusimoto | I have some ideas, but they're all hacky |
| 04:04:00 | raptor | pseudo compression |
| 04:04:00 | watusimoto | at a certain distance, all in the swarm will be moving the same direction and speed |
| 04:05:00 | sam686 | that CircleSpawn don't load into editor right.. |
| 04:05:00 | raptor | i wonder if we can filter our network data through gzip? |
| 04:05:00 | watusimoto | never actually tested that |
| 04:05:00 | watusimoto | (that for in response to Sam) |
| 04:06:00 | watusimoto | if none of you does it, I'll make circles be move objects, and that should fix raptor crash |
| 04:06:00 | sam686 | after using dynamic_cast, i easily ran into NULL problem, "Projectile" is not a "MoveObject". |
| 04:06:00 | watusimoto | maybe this is larger than just circles? |
| 04:07:00 | raptor | larger, yes |
| 04:07:00 | watusimoto | projectiles are not move objects |
| 04:07:00 | sam686 | Projectile is not MoveObject, but GrenadeProjectile is Item and is MoveObject |
| 04:08:00 | watusimoto | projectiles are moveabletypes though, or at least bullets are |
| 04:08:00 | watusimoto | maybe the same issue |
| 04:08:00 | raptor | yeah, i thought something was weird when i was doing the object mask -> type number conversion |
| 04:08:00 | raptor | with projectiles |
| 04:08:00 | watusimoto | maybe what constitutes a moveabletype changed during refactor? |
| 04:09:00 | watusimoto | obviously circles are on me |
| 04:09:00 | watusimoto | ok, checkling out for now (east coast time and all :-) |
| 04:09:00 | watusimoto | night |
| 04:09:00 | raptor | good night! |
| 04:10:00 | sam686 | ok, night.. |
| 04:11:00 | sam686 | that strange problem in segfault call stack was a cast problem after all... might not be a "MoveObject" |
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| 04:15:00 | raptor | yep |
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| 04:18:00 | zoomber_laptop | hi |
| 04:18:00 | raptor | hello |
| 04:19:00 | zoomber_laptop | hmm, anyone going to be on at 4 am? |
| 04:19:00 | raptor | haha, sorry |
| 04:19:00 | zoomber_laptop | aap. im so screwed then |
| 04:19:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh welll.. |
| 04:19:00 | raptor | you think you'll get banned that fast? |
| 04:19:00 | raptor | again? |
| 04:19:00 | zoomber_laptop | i sure hope not |
| 04:20:00 | zoomber_laptop | but it will be at least 6, maybe 7 if im reaaaal grumpy in the morning |
| 04:21:00 | zoomber_laptop | at least they upgraded their panel, its all nice and shiny now |
| 04:21:00 | zoomber_laptop | while making the buttons that control the VPS virtually impossible to operate for the time being.. |
| 04:23:00 | zoomber_laptop | WOW raptor, somebody was using gdb with bitfighter on my VPS |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | hehe - it was sam686, i think |
| 04:23:00 | zoomber_laptop | yep |
| 04:23:00 | sam686 | yes |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | hw and i were trying to crash it for a while |
| 04:23:00 | zoomber_laptop | that was nice of him |
| 04:23:00 | zoomber_laptop | ooh lol |
| 04:24:00 | zoomber_laptop | when will sam go to sleep? |
| 04:24:00 | sam686 | maybe in 30 minutes or 1 hour is when i may go to sleep today.. |
| 04:24:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 04:25:00 | zoomber_laptop | nevermind then...seems my virtual server may be unsuspended about 4 hours 30 minutes from now.. |
| 04:28:00 | raptor | oh bgood |
| 04:28:00 | sam686 | i wonder, even with a "service sendmail stop" it will still auto-start on next reboot.. But still the best bet is in crontab's SENDTO="" to disable cron from mailing |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | you could also add at the end of the script line: '&> /dev/null' |
| 04:29:00 | raptor | that automatically pipes any output into the great void |
| 04:30:00 | zoomber_laptop | can we devise a script that will tick until 5 am and auto ssh to the server, delete all the mail there, and try buying us some time? |
| 04:31:00 | raptor | sure |
| 04:31:00 | zoomber_laptop | maybe an applescript.... |
| 04:31:00 | zoomber_laptop | LOL |
| 04:31:00 | raptor | NO |
| 04:31:00 | raptor | bash |
| 04:31:00 | raptor | :) |
| 04:31:00 | zoomber_laptop | deal |
| 04:31:00 | zoomber_laptop | time to go to the electronic books.. |
| 04:33:00 | sam686 | could make it so a program can keep trying to load http://74.122.199.250/ web page, and sound alarm when it did load that web page... |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | here is your script: http://pastie.org/2378823 |
| 04:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | might not be best for me to wake up in the middle of the night..I have things to do in the morning and a summer job at 2 |
| 04:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | oh wait, you have to set up automatice public-key authentication first |
| 04:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | what about password for the ssh server? |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | yes |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | are you on a mac? |
| 04:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | or a key |
| 04:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | i can use my other vps ... |
| 04:35:00 | zoomber_laptop | its CENTos |
| 04:35:00 | raptor | check to see if it has the command: ssh-copy-id |
| 04:35:00 | zoomber_laptop | yes |
| 04:35:00 | zoomber_laptop | usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found |
| 04:35:00 | raptor | great! |
| 04:35:00 | raptor | now check to see if there is a .pub file in ~/.ssh/ folder |
| 04:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | yes, in known_hosts? |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | no |
| 04:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | an actual file, called id_dsa.pub |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | or id_rsa.pub |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | in ~/.ssh/ |
| 04:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh, because i never connected to the server using VPS |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | nononono |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | this is different |
| 04:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | is it possible to ssh in ssh? |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | wait wait wait |
| 04:36:00 | raptor | i will show youw |
| 04:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 04:37:00 | raptor | does a file with one of those names exist in that folder? |
| 04:38:00 | zoomber_laptop | ssh-copy-id command isnt on my mac, but that command exists in 208 server. in 208 server, none of those names exist |
| 04:38:00 | raptor | ok, then do the following on the 208 server: |
| 04:38:00 | raptor | ssh-keygen |
| 04:38:00 | raptor | and keep all the defaults |
| 04:38:00 | raptor | tell me when done |
| 04:38:00 | zoomber_laptop | enter file in which to save the key: |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | just press <enter> to get through it all |
| 04:39:00 | zoomber_laptop | 66:66:74:5a:c3:72:bf:c2:1a:b1:a5:58:5e:f0:69:34 root@bitfighter |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | great! |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | now cd ~/.ssh |
| 04:39:00 | zoomber_laptop | for 208 server |
| 04:39:00 | zoomber_laptop | done |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | now is there a file with a .pub, there? |
| 04:39:00 | zoomber_laptop | id_rsa id_rsa.pub known_hosts |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | yes! |
| 04:39:00 | raptor | ok, now do the following: |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | ssh-copy-id -i id_rsa.pub root@otherserverIP |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | oh wait, except the other server is off... |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | argh my failed late night logic!! |
| 04:40:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok, what about the key stored on my mac? can i put that on the VPS? |
| 04:40:00 | raptor | yes |
| 04:41:00 | zoomber_laptop | can upload the keys to the .ssh folder? |
| 04:41:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok, lets see if i remember the path.. |
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| 04:41:00 | raptor | you actually have to put the key into the remote ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file |
| 04:41:00 | zoomber_laptop | mac has a lot of hidden folders..for all its junk apple doesnt want users to know anything about |
| 04:41:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 04:41:00 | zoomber_laptop | so mkdir? |
| 04:41:00 | raptor | nope |
| 04:41:00 | raptor | wait |
| 04:41:00 | | karamazovapy has joined |
| 04:41:00 | raptor | this won't work because the server isn't on |
| 04:42:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 04:42:00 | raptor | this will have had to been set up before it was taken down |
| 04:42:00 | zoomber_laptop | but it will in 300 minutes? |
| 04:42:00 | raptor | sadly |
| 04:42:00 | raptor | well, it will still require user-input for a password |
| 04:42:00 | zoomber_laptop | cant do anything with a key i have already? |
| 04:42:00 | raptor | not until it is up again |
| 04:43:00 | zoomber_laptop | too bad you cant do ssh root@ip&pass=PASSWORD |
| 04:43:00 | raptor | haha, that was explicitly disallowed |
| 04:43:00 | zoomber_laptop | i think you can do it for mac... |
| 04:44:00 | raptor | i have never been able to do that on any linux system |
| 04:45:00 | raptor | actually there may be a hacky way... let me test something.. |
| 04:46:00 | zoomber_laptop | can you try to constantly send the password after sending the ssh command for a minute? |
| 04:46:00 | sam686 | i am testing ssh in ssh.. i connect to 208.. then i have 208.. screen ssh connect to my linux at 96.2.123.136 |
| 04:47:00 | zoomber_laptop | that is interesting sam.. |
| 04:47:00 | sam686 | it seems to work ok, with a little text output lat.. |
| 04:47:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 04:47:00 | sam686 | amall lag..lag.. |
| 04:47:00 | sam686 | small |
| 04:47:00 | raptor | i regularly do triple ssh in ssh in ssh at work because of VPN and virtual machines |
| 04:48:00 | zoomber_laptop | i guess it helps to have super duper fast connection.. |
| 04:48:00 | zoomber_laptop | i have mild connection right now...maybe 0.5 mbits/second |
| 04:48:00 | zoomber_laptop | and its alot alot alot more expensive at this area....less competition in doorcounty wisconsion |
| 04:49:00 | raptor | ssh is low bandwidth - but it takes time because each hop has to encrypt the traffic |
| 04:49:00 | sam686 | seems rather strange compiling, pressing ctrl+z, bg, then top.. it randomly writes compiling on top of a TOP text area |
| 04:50:00 | raptor | yeah background process still send output to the same shell |
| 04:50:00 | zoomber_laptop | hmm |
| 04:50:00 | zoomber_laptop | ooooh thats neat raptor |
| 04:50:00 | zoomber_laptop | so its kind of like real windows, but theyre all stuck in one place and transparent? |
| 04:51:00 | raptor | can be noisy |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | zoomber_laptop: is it lowercase or uppercase 'password:' prompt when you ssh? |
| 04:52:00 | zoomber_laptop | when ssh'ing from 208 server? |
| 04:52:00 | raptor | to it |
| 04:52:00 | zoomber_laptop | from my mac to 208 serv? |
| 04:53:00 | raptor | yes |
| 04:53:00 | zoomber_laptop | root@208.115.198.220's password: |
| 04:53:00 | zoomber_laptop | no, lowercase |
| 04:54:00 | sam686 | the problem is more like, will it work for fail? could even fail with "Command not found" if missyped.. |
| 04:54:00 | zoomber_laptop | dang, |
| 04:54:00 | raptor | curious, do you have the 'expect' command on your mac? |
| 04:55:00 | zoomber_laptop | raptor: also worried about another thing, my mac is a macbook (Laptop), not a good idea to run it all night, and goes to sleep even when i set it not to.. |
| 04:55:00 | zoomber_laptop | no except command, |
| 04:55:00 | zoomber_laptop | actually |
| 04:55:00 | zoomber_laptop | there might be one.. |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | expect |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | no except |
| 04:55:00 | zoomber_laptop | lol |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | haha |
| 04:55:00 | zoomber_laptop | apple has alot of commands and software, except they disable stuff |
| 04:55:00 | raptor | it's command line only |
| 04:56:00 | zoomber_laptop | i know |
| 04:56:00 | zoomber_laptop | im talking software, like php |
| 04:56:00 | zoomber_laptop | all macs come installed with php software, but its disabled |
| 04:56:00 | raptor | wait!, i may have found a bash example |
| 04:57:00 | zoomber_laptop | i have to manually adjust some file or do some command to enable software |
| 04:57:00 | zoomber_laptop | i did that to create a php board |
| 04:57:00 | sam686 | another point of failure, trying to ssh too early and the suspend is not expired yet.. if it does not retry later, it won't work |
| 04:57:00 | zoomber_laptop | can have it retry later... |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | argh, doesn't work without 'expect' |
| 04:57:00 | zoomber_laptop | can do two sh scripts, one that sleep 300m, and one 400m? |
| 04:57:00 | raptor | sadly |
| 04:57:00 | zoomber_laptop | or have it be a crontab? |
| 04:58:00 | zoomber_laptop | cron it to start every hour? |
| 04:58:00 | raptor | we still have to solve the problem of connecting and supplying a password... |
| 04:58:00 | zoomber_laptop | raptor: cant do whatever your trying to do on my 208 vps,? |
| 04:58:00 | raptor | need the 'expect' command... |
| 04:58:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh, no except command on there either.. |
| 04:58:00 | raptor | expect! not except |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | :) |
| 04:59:00 | zoomber_laptop | probably a way to get it to work on mac, but when i type "except command mac" in google, directs me to pages that say, "Top 50 commands......can enable this except this" |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | expect expect expect expect expect |
| 04:59:00 | raptor | not except |
| 05:00:00 | sam686 | exPPPPPext not exCCCCCept? |
| 05:00:00 | raptor | hahaha, yes, exactly sam686 |
| 05:00:00 | zoomber_laptop | expext not except? |
| 05:00:00 | raptor | expect |
| 05:00:00 | zoomber_laptop | ooh, a c not an x |
| 05:01:00 | raptor | like, "i am expecting you to come for dinner" |
| 05:01:00 | sam686 | well, didn't know there are more spelling difference between expect except.. |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | well i wont accept a failure yet, im sure its possible somehow... |
| 05:01:00 | raptor | on your 208 server, run 'yum install expect' ? |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | i just did it.. |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | and i just did that too |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | ooooh |
| 05:01:00 | zoomber_laptop | wait |
| 05:02:00 | zoomber_laptop | wait |
| 05:02:00 | zoomber_laptop | yeah i have expect on both |
| 05:02:00 | zoomber_laptop | on mac* |
| 05:02:00 | raptor | oh good |
| 05:02:00 | zoomber_laptop | im currently installing it on 208 |
| 05:03:00 | zoomber_laptop | didnt realize you really wante dme to type in expect, was confused.. |
| 05:03:00 | zoomber_laptop | done |
| 05:03:00 | zoomber_laptop | both have it now |
| 05:03:00 | raptor | ok, i almost have something for you to test... |
| 05:03:00 | zoomber_laptop | so we're expecting an output from a program? |
| 05:05:00 | zoomber_laptop | For example, here are some things you can do: Start a game (e.g., rogue) and if the optimal configuration doesn't appear, restart it |
| 05:05:00 | zoomber_laptop | (again and again) until it does, then hand over control to you. |
| 05:08:00 | zoomber_laptop | raptor: |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | hi |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | almost got it working.. |
| 05:08:00 | zoomber_laptop | something around this nature? |
| 05:08:00 | zoomber_laptop | http://pastebin.com/JfmKAD1v |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | yes |
| 05:09:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok.. |
| 05:09:00 | raptor | my script is a little different... |
| 05:12:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 05:12:00 | zoomber_laptop | then will use yours instead.. |
| 05:15:00 | raptor | here you go, it works!: http://pastie.org/2378954 |
| 05:15:00 | raptor | alter the three variables at the top |
| 05:15:00 | raptor | oh and add the sleep command somewhere, i guess |
| 05:15:00 | raptor | before the VAR= |
| 05:15:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 05:16:00 | zoomber_laptop | ill do it after PASS=myapssword |
| 05:17:00 | zoomber_laptop | wait sam686, what pass do you use to connect to 208 server? |
| 05:17:00 | zoomber_laptop | can you pm me it? |
| 05:17:00 | raptor | sounds fine |
| 05:17:00 | zoomber_laptop | i ask this because i switched pine and palm when having a password for 208, don tknow which is which |
| 05:17:00 | zoomber_laptop | nvm, ill try to find it |
| 05:17:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 05:17:00 | zoomber_laptop | i think its pine then palm |
| 05:18:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok, 74 must be palm then pine |
| 05:18:00 | zoomber_laptop | if the password is wrong, i deserve to get my server suspended again |
| 05:19:00 | zoomber_laptop | i think sam686 knows my servers better than i do... |
| 05:19:00 | raptor | haha |
| 05:19:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok, and this is indeed a shell script? |
| 05:20:00 | zoomber_laptop | i did nano and created shell.sh in ~ folder |
| 05:20:00 | zoomber_laptop | good for me to just do now, ./shell.sh? |
| 05:20:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh, chmod first |
| 05:21:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok, i think its working now |
| 05:21:00 | zoomber_laptop | now ctrl z and bg |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | and hope your server is alive in the morning? |
| 05:22:00 | zoomber_laptop | yessir |
| 05:22:00 | zoomber_laptop | now time to get a good nights rest |
| 05:22:00 | zoomber_laptop | hopefully it works |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | good night |
| 05:22:00 | zoomber_laptop | night |
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| 05:27:00 | raptor | still trying to find the appropriate place to adjust damage for bouncer against armor... |
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| 05:28:00 | raptor | think i found it.. |
| 05:33:00 | sam686 | i will be going to bed, night. |
| 05:33:00 | raptor | good night |
| 05:49:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 96a40b02d68c | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Bouncers do more damage to armor than other weapon types (3/4 damage as opposed to 1/2) |
| 05:59:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 9f00808ced9f | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Add in dedicated_debug make target |
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| 14:32:00 | zoomber_laptop | hi |
| 14:33:00 | zoomber_laptop | hmm |
| 14:33:00 | zoomber_laptop | odd |
| 14:33:00 | zoomber_laptop | looks like it is still suspended |
| 14:39:00 | zoomber_laptop | ill open a live chat if i can |
| 14:58:00 | sam686 | hi... my little thing about beep when http://74.122.199.250/ does load, is telling me it was down the whole time, was never up. it checks every 4 minutes. |
| 15:00:00 | sam686 | oh now it becomes alive.. |
| 15:22:00 | zoomber_laptop | yes... |
| 15:22:00 | zoomber_laptop | i opened a support ticket |
| 15:23:00 | zoomber_laptop | and got it back up... |
| 15:23:00 | zoomber_laptop | for now, i disabled the cron-tab until the mailing on that can be fixed |
| 15:23:00 | raptor | good morning! |
| 15:24:00 | zoomber_laptop | hi raptor |
| 15:24:00 | zoomber_laptop | it looks as if they detected 8000 mails from my server |
| 15:25:00 | sam686 | before i deleted all the mail, there was like hundreds of bounce mails, as if it tried to mail somewhere.. |
| 15:25:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh |
| 15:25:00 | zoomber_laptop | interesting |
| 15:26:00 | zoomber_laptop | let me check the cron script |
| 15:26:00 | sam686 | that MAILTO= was missing in crontab, maybe a missing MAILTO was screwing it up.. |
| 15:26:00 | zoomber_laptop | ok |
| 15:26:00 | sam686 | but i just added a MAILTO="" |
| 15:27:00 | zoomber_laptop | sam686, the file is in ~/sam/tnlping/check.sh |
| 15:28:00 | zoomber_laptop | i have it set to email me at the top when the server is down, and it does that correctly, but there are some echo commands down below, not sure about those... |
| 15:29:00 | sam686 | the output was something like: tnlPing usage: something... or TNLPING is down or similar... |
| 15:29:00 | sam686 | the cron was emailing output of it, disable it with MAILTO="" |
| 15:33:00 | sam686 | did you miss the instruction when looking in: nano check.sh for tnlPing? |
| 15:34:00 | sam686 | it says about MAILTO="" in crontab |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | i saw, |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | dont know how to put that in crontab though.. |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | i do crontab -e |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh wait |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | i figured it out |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | nano /etc/crontab |
| 15:34:00 | sam686 | I do nano /etc/crontab |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | oh you already did |
| 15:34:00 | zoomber_laptop | thanks |
| 15:35:00 | raptor | yay for nano |
| 15:35:00 | raptor | http://xkcd.com/378/ |
| 15:35:00 | zoomber_laptop | raptor! how do you think vim feels about it |
| 15:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | VImproved |
| 15:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | i am going to scurry out for a bit |
| 15:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | gonna take a pontoon boat out in a lake.. |
| 15:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | then work 6 hours |
| 15:36:00 | zoomber_laptop | later! |
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| 15:37:00 | raptor | bye |
| 15:39:00 | raptor | http://www.terminally-incoherent.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/curves.jpg |
| 15:39:00 | raptor | pico = nano |
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| 16:25:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 9f4d42757835 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Energy recharges at double the rate if the ship isn't moving. Fix for issue 81 |
| 16:34:00 | karamazovapy | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJfZTr8zMsc |
| 16:34:00 | karamazovapy | love ponies. |
| 16:46:00 | raptor | i hate to bypass the youtube filter for that one... |
| 16:46:00 | raptor | *had |
| 16:47:00 | raptor | now i need to scrub my brain |
| 16:47:00 | karamazovapy | I thought it was awesome. |
| 16:48:00 | raptor | i didn't know fluttercuss was a word... |
| 16:50:00 | karamazovapy | the character is named fluttershy. she normally has a quiet girly voice, but in that episode something embarassing happens to each pony and she gets a really deep man voice. |
| 16:51:00 | raptor | i'm obviously missing some sort of culture here... |
| 16:51:00 | karamazovapy | MLP:FIM has taken the internets by storm |
| 16:53:00 | karamazovapy | take this, as a sampler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Tjb14VoWjg |
| 16:55:00 | raptor | wow, what an intro... |
| 16:55:00 | karamazovapy | have you seen kanye west's POWER video? |
| 16:56:00 | raptor | i have not been sufficiently cultured... |
| 16:58:00 | karamazovapy | the intro is very much like the POWER video |
| 17:04:00 | raptor | ok i need to stop... |
| 17:04:00 | raptor | and focus at work again... |
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| 17:13:00 | karamazovapy | the ponies can drive one to madness |
| 17:20:00 | raptor | what do you think? energy recharge at twice the rate when ship isn't moving? |
| 17:20:00 | raptor | because that's what I committed... |
| 17:21:00 | karamazovapy | I'm skeptical of the idea in general, but we'll see |
| 17:21:00 | raptor | maybe it needs to be faster? |
| 17:21:00 | raptor | ok |
| 17:21:00 | karamazovapy | people who engineer and repair are always just sitting there anyway |
| 17:21:00 | karamazovapy | they're the annoying ones |
| 17:22:00 | raptor | maybe too fast... |
| 17:22:00 | karamazovapy | who knows |
| 17:23:00 | karamazovapy | I approve of the principle, but I have no idea how it will turn out |
| 17:23:00 | raptor | or maybe - only if engineer and repair aren't loaded |
| 17:23:00 | karamazovapy | eh...I think this one has to be across the board |
| 17:24:00 | raptor | yeah, i guess that's good - don't want to make things too complicated.. |
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| 20:11:00 | watusimoto | hey raptor -- great to see you are knocking off a few of the 016 cases; we may want to reassign some to 017, but we should probably start thinking about a cohesive, compelling, and achievable featureset for 016 and defer the rest to 017 |
| 20:11:00 | raptor | ok |
| 20:11:00 | watusimoto | also... be sure to update the release notes with any "consumer level" changes you make so we have something to advertise when we release! |
| 20:11:00 | watusimoto | but I'm sure you've been doing that :-) |
| 20:11:00 | raptor | yes - i will go through my revisions when we get close to release and add them all at once in main.cpp |
| 20:12:00 | raptor | hg keeps track for me :) |
| 20:12:00 | watusimoto | sounds good... that way you won't forget any! |
| 20:12:00 | watusimoto | :-) |
| 20:12:00 | raptor | getting antsy to release? |
| 20:12:00 | raptor | or at least get something out to the community? |
| 20:12:00 | watusimoto | no, but it sounds like you and sam might be |
| 20:12:00 | watusimoto | it's been a while |
| 20:12:00 | raptor | i think we need to do a beta test for a bit |
| 20:13:00 | raptor | we refactored so much... |
| 20:13:00 | watusimoto | yes, with all the new changes that aren;t really changes |
| 20:13:00 | raptor | exactly |
| 20:13:00 | watusimoto | especially the editor! |
| 20:14:00 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 20:14:00 | raptor | i'm a little worried about SDL on mac |
| 20:14:00 | watusimoto | I actually know of one huge error |
| 20:14:00 | watusimoto | switching from windowed to full screen is still a problem |
| 20:14:00 | raptor | how so? |
| 20:15:00 | watusimoto | on windows, it takes a long time |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | really? |
| 20:15:00 | watusimoto | I think it might actaully change video modes |
| 20:15:00 | watusimoto | yes |
| 20:15:00 | watusimoto | it used to be instantaneious |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | i bet it has to do with trying to grab an opengl layer |
| 20:15:00 | raptor | oh! |
| 20:15:00 | watusimoto | if it is indeed switching video modes, we should try to figure out why and tell it to stop |
| 20:16:00 | raptor | when switching in and out of fullscreen with SDL, you have to reload all the opengl textures |
| 20:16:00 | watusimoto | we want full window coverage, but we should be able to work with whatever resolution the screen is already at |
| 20:16:00 | watusimoto | we shouldn't need too many textures... |
| 20:16:00 | raptor | yeah, i don't think it is switching resolutions |
| 20:16:00 | raptor | the code is identical on linux... |
| 20:17:00 | raptor | i think it has to do with windows opengl texture reloading |
| 20:17:00 | watusimoto | I haven't poked around too much; I need to experiment with it a bit to better understand the problem |
| 20:17:00 | watusimoto | maybe |
| 20:17:00 | watusimoto | I wonder if we can disable that somehow |
| 20:17:00 | raptor | if we disable texture reloading, then we can't switch from fullscreen to windowed |
| 20:17:00 | watusimoto | it really feels like a video mode switch, though |
| 20:17:00 | karamazovapy | will the 016 editor have the dilation machine built in? |
| 20:17:00 | watusimoto | well, let;s not worry about it now ; it's easy enough to confirm |
| 20:18:00 | watusimoto | @k -- remind me what that is |
| 20:18:00 | raptor | i should test on my windows 7 box... |
| 20:18:00 | watusimoto | arb itrary scaling of objects? |
| 20:18:00 | karamazovapy | yes |
| 20:18:00 | watusimoto | 015 has it |
| 20:18:00 | karamazovapy | really...? |
| 20:18:00 | watusimoto | so 016 should |
| 20:18:00 | watusimoto | really |
| 20:19:00 | watusimoto | look in the help screen |
| 20:19:00 | karamazovapy | I JUST FOUND IT |
| 20:19:00 | watusimoto | perhaps ctrl-shift-x? |
| 20:19:00 | karamazovapy | yep |
| 20:19:00 | watusimoto | or something lame |
| 20:19:00 | watusimoto | so, yes |
| 20:21:00 | watusimoto | no idea if it works in 016 |
| 20:21:00 | karamazovapy | it wasn't listed in the new features! |
| 20:21:00 | karamazovapy | http://bitfighter.org/downloads |
| 20:22:00 | raptor | i may have missed a few... |
| 20:23:00 | karamazovapy | I rarely read the help screens for the editor since I've been using it forever |
| 20:25:00 | watusimoto | it may be older than 015 |
| 20:25:00 | raptor | sadly i cannot resize a testitem 10 times larger |
| 20:25:00 | watusimoto | anyway, I'm getting booted off my machine by zemmer... so more later |
| 20:25:00 | raptor | later |
| 20:30:00 | karamazovapy | lol |
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| 22:28:00 | karamazovapy | http://www.happyplace.com/4286/brilliantly-sarcastic-responses-to-completely-well-meaning-signs |
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