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| 00:06:00 | | Zoomberrr has joined |
| 00:06:00 | Zoomberrr | hey sam686, raptor, or karamazovapy, you on? |
| 00:06:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 00:07:00 | karamazovapy | cholla |
| 00:07:00 | Zoomberrr | hey sam, can you tell the [r] people that I can't participate in the tournament? i am having issues connecting to bitfighter, and it seems the network hostpot im on is blocking udb connections or firewalled |
| 00:08:00 | Zoomberrr | i cant connect to the master server, im not sure if /connect will work thoguh. i dont know the ip addresses of any servers... |
| 00:08:00 | karamazovapy | the tourney server isn't up and kiddeath10k hasn't shown up either |
| 00:09:00 | Zoomberrr | oh |
| 00:09:00 | karamazovapy | but if/when we get a server up, I can give you the ip |
| 00:09:00 | Zoomberrr | ok |
| 00:09:00 | Zoomberrr | can you give me the ip of <gibbed> or kserv? I want to see if i can even use /connect |
| 00:10:00 | karamazovapy | kServ is 206.217.217.165:28000 |
| 00:10:00 | sam686 | 74.122.199.250:28000 (or 28003 for bitfighter sam686) |
| 00:12:00 | Zoomberrr | nope, cant connect |
| 00:12:00 | sam686 | if you are connected to master, and server list is blank, make sure you have bitfighter version 015a, that where most server is at. |
| 00:12:00 | Zoomberrr | i am not connected to master |
| 00:13:00 | raptor | i'll be back later tonight |
| 00:13:00 | Zoomberrr | i think the network i am on is blocking UDP connections completley |
| 00:14:00 | sam686 | does game lobby says "Can't connect to master - Using server list from last successful connect" at the very top? |
| 00:14:00 | Zoomberrr | Yes |
| 00:14:00 | Zoomberrr | but there is no server list showing |
| 00:14:00 | Zoomberrr | just says "Unable to connect" where server list should be |
| 00:14:00 | sam686 | there is |
| 00:14:00 | sam686 | [RecentForeignServers] in INI file.. |
| 00:14:00 | Zoomberrr | yes but then why can't i use /connect? |
| 00:15:00 | raptor | wow, look at that player list.. |
| 00:15:00 | Zoomberrr | raptor: boy do i wish i coulld get on bitfighter right now and experience that list |
| 00:15:00 | sam686 | zoomber, does this page load? http://208.107.52.15/ |
| 00:15:00 | Zoomberrr | loads |
| 00:15:00 | Zoomberrr | yep |
| 00:15:00 | Zoomberrr | i told you, i think the wifi network is blocking UDP connections, |
| 00:16:00 | raptor | can you do tnlping against a server? |
| 00:16:00 | Zoomberrr | oh |
| 00:16:00 | Zoomberrr | good diea |
| 00:16:00 | Zoomberrr | idea* |
| 00:16:00 | sam686 | most likely, what ever you connected to, don't allow UDP |
| 00:17:00 | Zoomberrr | told ya |
| 00:17:00 | sam686 | tnlping will probably fail, as master and servers all use UDP |
| 00:17:00 | Zoomberrr | being a public network, i dont know how to get around this |
| 00:17:00 | sam686 | TCP can be slow for real-time gaming, especially for dropped packets being handled internally in TCP protocol.. |
| 00:18:00 | Zoomberrr | why do we still use TCP for web sites? |
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| 00:25:00 | raptor | 21 players |
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| 01:01:00 | karamazovapy | lol...that was a disaster of sorts. |
| 01:01:00 | karamazovapy | also a wild success |
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| 03:21:00 | Zoomber | so whooooos on? |
| 03:30:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 03:30:00 | | raptor has joined |
| 03:30:00 | | ChanServ sets mode +o raptor |
| 03:31:00 | raptor | hi |
| 03:31:00 | raptor | a wild success disaster? |
| 03:34:00 | raptor | Zoomber: your forum graphic is trippy |
| 03:34:00 | sam686 | earliear in a "Reddit backup" there was a very long periods (15 minutes and longer) of goofing around of about 15 players, but then evertually got in one or 2 games.. |
| 03:34:00 | Zoomber | right? |
| 03:34:00 | raptor | do you think them reddit folk still had fun? |
| 03:35:00 | Zoomber | raptor: i found a picture online and did the rest by hand (which we mean now days, manually with the computer) |
| 03:37:00 | raptor | by hand-on-the-keyboard |
| 03:38:00 | Zoomber | exactly! |
| 03:39:00 | raptor | karamazovapy, i like the server description for 'reddit backup' |
| 03:40:00 | sam686 | i think they have more fun if there wasn't such hassle of trying to set up raddit contests teams that happened earliear. |
| 03:40:00 | sam686 | 1. no spectator mode. 2. there no /pause command to set up teams right. |
| 03:41:00 | Zoomber | Knights of Cydonia |
| 03:41:00 | Zoomber | wow, we should totally make up a /pauser command |
| 03:41:00 | sam686 | maybe 3. there is no /reset team score or no way to keep the same teams with /restart |
| 03:41:00 | Zoomber | / pause pauses game time, freezes turrets, makes nothing destroyable |
| 03:42:00 | Zoomber | No ones going to take me alivvceeeeee, the time has come to make things riiiiiiiight, you and i must fight for our riiiiiights, you and i must fight to surviiiiiive |
| 03:48:00 | raptor | Zoomber: are you ok? |
| 03:48:00 | Zoomber | its a song, probably one of the greatest rock/alternative bands around right now |
| 03:48:00 | Zoomber | look up "Knights of Cydonia" |
| 03:52:00 | Zoomber | sam686, do you want me to put a backup of sam686 on the 96 server? |
| 03:56:00 | Zoomber | i got an email that one of my servers was going to go under maintenance for an hour, so I can keep a backup for you in case |
| 03:57:00 | Zoomber | I just say you placed a home folder in the server too, but aren't sure if you built / or intend for it to be debug |
| 04:04:00 | Zoomber | thats enough bitfighter-ing for me tonight.. |
| 04:05:00 | raptor | phoew too much bitmatch can mess up dreams... |
| 04:06:00 | Zoomber | oh yes, i can relate |
| 04:07:00 | raptor | sam686: can you compile with recent watusimoto changes? |
| 04:07:00 | raptor | i fail to link |
| 04:08:00 | Zoomber | this merge? http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=d7207ce339eaecab97b88f71f13856d7b383e235 |
| 04:08:00 | sam686 | i think watusimoto added .cpp file |
| 04:08:00 | raptor | yep |
| 04:09:00 | raptor | oh duh |
| 04:09:00 | raptor | i'm an id10t |
| 04:10:00 | sam686 | ok, zoomber, i got levels transferred to my computer.. |
| 04:11:00 | Zoomber | sam686: i also put your levels to my 96 server |
| 04:11:00 | Zoomber | who knows, most likely, nothing will happen and it will be an hour of downtime when nobody usually is on bitfighter, but I can put up a bitfighter sam686 2 up on 96 incase... |
| 04:14:00 | Zoomber | oh |
| 04:14:00 | Zoomber | i made a mistake |
| 04:15:00 | raptor | sam686: does your forum gif change? |
| 04:15:00 | sam686 | zoomber, your crontab is making it run /home/sam686/bf/hg015/exe/bitfighterd as a root.. |
| 04:15:00 | Zoomber | let me disable that... |
| 04:16:00 | sam686 | then, uploaded files have "root" owner.. |
| 04:16:00 | raptor | yikes! |
| 04:16:00 | raptor | that's bad |
| 04:16:00 | sam686 | had to use sudo chown sam686 * in levels directory |
| 04:17:00 | Zoomber | sam686: it looks like you had a clone of your server on my 96 server, so i ran that as a backup for tonight.. |
| 04:17:00 | sam686 | i know a global crontab /etc/crontab have run as user option.. |
| 04:17:00 | Zoomber | plus, you have your local server too |
| 04:17:00 | sam686 | yes, i was getting it set up there too, but then not run it.. |
| 04:18:00 | Zoomber | now to the cron scripts.. |
| 04:19:00 | Zoomber | Crontab disabled |
| 04:19:00 | sam686 | i think http://74.122.199.250/ went offline for 30 seconds - my ssh didn't respawn until jsut now.. |
| 04:20:00 | Zoomber | oi |
| 04:20:00 | Zoomber | ok |
| 04:20:00 | Zoomber | well i think it well be done by tomorrow morning, so i will re-enable the cron in the morning.. |
| 04:20:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 04:21:00 | Zoomber | almost forgot that i have the 208 server...what should we do with it? |
| 04:21:00 | Zoomber | we can put up raptor's crazy level server there.. |
| 04:22:00 | raptor | haha |
| 04:23:00 | raptor | i'm trying to think of some other levels |
| 04:23:00 | Zoomber | raptor: if you have any bitfighter client compatible radical code changes or mods you want to test, -->208..server<--- perfect place to put them! |
| 04:24:00 | raptor | nope - that's sam686's department... :] |
| 04:24:00 | Zoomber | aww |
| 04:24:00 | Zoomber | thats a bummer, i wanted to call it Zoomber and raptor's rediculous level playground |
| 04:24:00 | raptor | hahaha |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | i suppose i still can |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | but I can only do easy mods, not big stuff |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | maybe 'crazy soccer' should go there, too? |
| 04:25:00 | Zoomber | go for it! |
| 04:25:00 | raptor | i'm trying to think of really oddball levels |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | let me give you the credentials, ill point you to a working bitfighter hg directory |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | there you can uplaod the levels |
| 04:26:00 | raptor | well - i'm working on something at the moment.. |
| 04:26:00 | raptor | trying to stay focused... |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | whenever you're ready |
| 04:26:00 | raptor | been having a scatterbrained couple weeks |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | oh, I admire your abilities! |
| 04:26:00 | sam686 | maybe test the old way of trying to crash server, like soccer balls in non-soccer gametype, or not enough or too many parameters in some level lines |
| 04:26:00 | Zoomber | if only I could stay focused... |
| 04:27:00 | Zoomber | sam686: if you want to make any neat stuff too, you can put it in the server code as well |
| 04:28:00 | sam686 | i might mostly do that in 016, as 015a may be near the end of life, sort of.. |
| 04:28:00 | Zoomber | right |
| 04:29:00 | Zoomber | well, i'll clone a copy of 016 on the server and have it set up for us to do that stuff when-ever we're ready in that case |
| 04:33:00 | raptor | i don't really know how to vote on the soccer poll - i'm really not partial any way... |
| 04:33:00 | Zoomber | i dont like ball carrying, it lets you pass a ball through you! |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | would ball carry-handling improve if we reduced the search radius for the ball to jump on you? |
| 05:03:00 | Zoomber | i think it would improve if you could damage the ship even though it is wearing the protective ball, and shooting the ball was a bit more powerfull |
| 05:03:00 | Zoomber | blitzing by holding the ball in-front of you seems to outpower shooting sometimes |
| 05:04:00 | Zoomber | if that makes any sense at all |
| 05:07:00 | raptor | sam686: i'm having trouble finding where to place the check for a banned person |
| 05:08:00 | raptor | oh wait, i think i found it: ClientGame::onConnectTerminated |
| 05:09:00 | sam686 | look in GameConnection::readConnectRequest |
| 05:09:00 | sam686 | there is already a isAddressBanned(...) |
| 05:09:00 | sam686 | there is also a gServerGame->getNetInterface()->banHost(theClient->getNetAddress(), BanDuration); |
| 05:10:00 | sam686 | used for kicking players, thats a 30 second ban.. |
| 05:10:00 | Zoomber | sam, can you do something for me? i'll pm you |
| 05:10:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 05:13:00 | raptor | i see banned code for master server - is that even used? |
| 05:13:00 | sam686 | it is used for kicking players, but only lasting for 30 seconds in ban length |
| 05:14:00 | sam686 | note, 30 SECONDS in ban length for kicking players |
| 05:14:00 | raptor | yes, but in masterConnection.cpp:135 |
| 05:14:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 05:14:00 | Zoomber | maybe i can answer |
| 05:16:00 | Zoomber | actually, i cant |
| 05:17:00 | sam686 | thats another place for checking for ban, for "Punching through firewall" |
| 05:17:00 | raptor | ahh... interesting |
| 05:18:00 | Zoomber | if only there was a question i could answer... |
| 05:18:00 | raptor | the ultimate question to the ultimate answer |
| 05:18:00 | Zoomber | indee |
| 05:18:00 | Zoomber | indeed |
| 05:19:00 | Zoomber | i both despise and embellish apple keyboards |
| 05:20:00 | Zoomber | hey raptor, have you heard of Haiku OS? |
| 05:20:00 | raptor | yes - it is a continuation of BeOS |
| 05:20:00 | raptor | I installed BeOS once |
| 05:21:00 | raptor | was confused about it at the time - i wasn't a Linux junkie yet |
| 05:21:00 | Zoomber | i put it on virtualbox |
| 05:21:00 | Zoomber | im not really sure what to do with it yet... |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | haha |
| 05:22:00 | Zoomber | ooooh, idea |
| 05:22:00 | Zoomber | Bitfighter! |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | try and compile bitfighter on it? |
| 05:22:00 | raptor | :) |
| 05:22:00 | Zoomber | i finally beat raptor to an idea? |
| 05:23:00 | Zoomber | he always beats me to it! |
| 05:25:00 | raptor | sam686: is there a way to get nickname from NetConnection? |
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| 05:27:00 | sam686 | you may need to type case NetConnection to GameConnection |
| 05:27:00 | sam686 | to get player name |
| 05:31:00 | Zoomber | shoot! my virtual machine stopped starting up ok now. |
| 05:35:00 | Zoomber | uh oh, someone is doing something on my remote computer! |
| 05:37:00 | Zoomber | i am totally going to scare the living daylight out of them |
| 05:38:00 | sam686 | i have a crouded 3 monitor screens: http://208.107.52.15/bitfighter/crouded_3_monitors.png |
| 05:38:00 | raptor | lots of putty |
| 05:39:00 | sam686 | three for each of zoomber's servers, one more for my laptop computer running linux. |
| 05:39:00 | raptor | wow |
| 05:41:00 | sam686 | i ended up losing ssh connection of all three of of zoomber server... |
| 05:41:00 | Zoomber | you did? |
| 05:42:00 | sam686 | must have been my internet being bad, not sure.. |
| 05:43:00 | sam686 | or, since there is no TCP communications when idling in SSH, my router sometimes forget the connection is still connected.. |
| 05:44:00 | sam686 | most likely, my internet, as i lost connection after i lost irc connection.. |
| 05:45:00 | Zoomber | occasionally remote vps closes my connection sometimes, if i remain idle for too long |
| 05:47:00 | sam686 | my cable modem had about 5 days of connection problem, in a past 30 days, while my router had about 1 problem in a past 60 days.. |
| 05:48:00 | sam686 | i think when SSH idling, may be better running "top" to prevent losing connection. |
| 05:50:00 | raptor | you can set top refresh: top -d30 |
| 05:50:00 | raptor | for every 30 seconds |
| 05:50:00 | sam686 | whi is this a warning? warning: Spawn.h:215:7: warning: no newline at end of file |
| 05:50:00 | raptor | i have no idea |
| 05:50:00 | raptor | older gcc may require a newline at the end of every header/class file |
| 05:55:00 | Zoomber | Sam686, check out my new level |
| 05:56:00 | sam686 | i need to have my client use the same port number, so i can forward that port and have a more successful "Punch through firewall" |
| 05:58:00 | Zoomber | im on dmz at the moment, everything should be forward |
| 05:58:00 | raptor | punching punching... |
| 05:59:00 | raptor | punching punching... |
| 05:59:00 | Zoomber | see it at least? |
| 05:59:00 | raptor | i see a 69.237... |
| 05:59:00 | sam686 | i got through, when i forward my client's port (now my client using UDP 47323) |
| 06:00:00 | Zoomber | thats me |
| 06:00:00 | Zoomber | raptor: try restarting bitfighter client |
| 06:00:00 | raptor | already have |
| 06:00:00 | sam686 | zoomber, port forward your server 28000? |
| 06:00:00 | raptor | still no go |
| 06:00:00 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 06:00:00 | Zoomber | im on DMZ, AND port forwarded |
| 06:00:00 | Zoomber | so, port forwarded over-rides DMZ, |
| 06:00:00 | Zoomber | and, it should show up anyways |
| 06:00:00 | raptor | oh well |
| 06:00:00 | sam686 | shows up at port 58981 as listed.. |
| 06:01:00 | Zoomber | wait |
| 06:01:00 | Zoomber | one more thin |
| 06:01:00 | Zoomber | thing i can try |
| 06:01:00 | sam686 | try port forward 58981 to private side 28000 |
| 06:01:00 | sam686 | for zoomber |
| 06:01:00 | Zoomber | thats what im doing |
| 06:02:00 | Zoomber | ok, done |
| 06:02:00 | Zoomber | oops, i made a typo |
| 06:02:00 | sam686 | doesn't appear to be forwarded right.. |
| 06:02:00 | sam686 | make sure it is UDP |
| 06:03:00 | Zoomber | yes, i made a typo |
| 06:03:00 | Zoomber | now i changed it, should work now |
| 06:03:00 | sam686 | i don't think its forwarded right.. |
| 06:04:00 | Zoomber | still nothing? |
| 06:04:00 | raptor | itg hates me |
| 06:04:00 | Zoomber | inboundport 58981 |
| 06:04:00 | Zoomber | private port 28000 |
| 06:04:00 | Zoomber | oh wait! |
| 06:04:00 | raptor | haha |
| 06:04:00 | Zoomber | why wont it let me use 28000 as a private port |
| 06:05:00 | Zoomber | ok, *lets hope it lets me do this |
| 06:05:00 | raptor | use 58981 as private |
| 06:05:00 | Zoomber | trying now |
| 06:05:00 | Zoomber | 58981 as private? i am using that as public |
| 06:05:00 | sam686 | is private UDP 28000 in used by other port forwarding" |
| 06:05:00 | Zoomber | i cleared everything, only one thing port forwarded right now |
| 06:05:00 | Zoomber | inbound 58981, private 28000, where lan server ip is |
| 06:05:00 | sam686 | use 28000 for private, 58981 for public, zoomber |
| 06:05:00 | Zoomber | thats what i have |
| 06:06:00 | sam686 | is it UDP, at the right private IP address? |
| 06:06:00 | sam686 | now i see it port forwarded right.. |
| 06:18:00 | raptor | honestly, i don't know how popular the 'ridiculous server' would be, but it might be fun to have it around for a little while.. |
| 06:24:00 | raptor | oh man - i'm falling asleep |
| 06:24:00 | raptor | good night guys |
| 06:27:00 | Zoomber | there, cleared it |
| 06:27:00 | Zoomber | ok, good night raptor |
| 06:27:00 | Zoomber | and goodnight sam, im going off too |
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| 06:56:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 6878f61d73fd | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix some compile warnings, update some projects |
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| 18:30:00 | raptor | there's roughly 526 thousand minutes in a year, so an S32 should be fine for ban duration? |
| 18:30:00 | raptor | so we'd need S64 if we wanted to ban people for 4 thousand years or more |
| 18:31:00 | raptor | roughly |
| 18:31:00 | raptor | with a resolution of one minute, of course... |
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| 18:58:00 | raptor | !bbb |
| 18:58:00 | BFLogBot | Big Bitfighter Battle! |
| 19:33:00 | raptor | what are the blockland forums exactly? |
| 19:35:00 | raptor | hey foudn it: http://forum.blockland.us/index.php?topic=169149.0 |
| 19:44:00 | karamazovapy | this isn't accurate: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php?title=History_of_Bitfighter |
| 19:44:00 | karamazovapy | I still have Zap! installers from december 2004 |
| 19:45:00 | karamazovapy | specifically, Zap-1.5.0-Installer.exe and Zap-1.5.0rc2-Installer.exe |
| 19:46:00 | raptor | you hsould update it |
| 19:46:00 | karamazovapy | there were likely public releases before I stumbled across the game |
| 19:46:00 | karamazovapy | and/or, installers I didn't archive |
| 19:47:00 | raptor | you should add: November 2010 - bitfighter development team increases at least three fold! :) |
| 19:50:00 | karamazovapy | I started hosting my "upgrade" server on Zap! in February 2009, and I was the only existing dedicated server...I think the master shut down in March |
| 19:52:00 | karamazovapy | man...that upgrade map wasn't bad! |
| 19:52:00 | karamazovapy | I'm hosting it from the editor right now |
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