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| 00:19:00 | sam686 | i think my linux decided to crash with flashing cyan an cray lines and rectangles, and fuzzy sound lasted for 2 seconds. no buttons work except holding down power button to turn off... |
| 00:19:00 | sam686 | it happened immediately when trying to start bitfighter 015a |
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| 00:20:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | sam686: Odd, that shouldn't happen |
| 00:21:00 | sam686 | well, flashing screeh keeps going forever until turned off... |
| 00:22:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | did you try ctrl alt backspace? or alt gr + sysrq + k to kill Xorg? |
| 00:22:00 | sam686 | i might think its my intel graphics (possibly driver) that caused it, because i had several x-server auto restarts with no more graphics acceleration... |
| 00:23:00 | sam686 | i tried ctrl + alt + backspace while in a broken crash state, nothing happens.. |
| 00:23:00 | BlackBird | Hallo Leute. |
| 00:23:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | sam686: Did you enable that key combo? that could be why nothing happens |
| 00:24:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | I believe some distros it's disabled by default |
| 00:24:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | due to a problem with emacs or something or other |
| 00:24:00 | BlackBird | Ich entschied mich, Deutsch zu sprechen heute. aber im im Betrügen. |
| 00:24:00 | sam686 | i even tried ctrl + alt + f1, nothing happens... |
| 00:24:00 | sam686 | until i got it working again... |
| 00:24:00 | BlackBird | google translate ftw |
| 00:25:00 | sam686 | it seems like a crash, as not even a wireless light will turn blue to orange when i slide the wireless switch... |
| 00:25:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | f1 won't, try F2, or F3, usually F1 is the default virtual console which X resides in |
| 00:26:00 | sam686 | for my linux, its F7 for graphical user interface, f1 -f6 is command line mode |
| 00:26:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ah, on mine the default graphical (or probably my modified at somepoint..) is on F1 :-) |
| 00:27:00 | BlackBird | Ich frage mich, warum du durch die Mühe ging nur um diesen Satz zu übersetzen. |
| 00:29:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | BlackBird: Speak english on IRC please. |
| 00:29:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | (only just noticed you..) |
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| 03:15:00 | raptor | good evening! |
| 03:15:00 | raptor | back to the issues list i guess... |
| 03:44:00 | sam686 | umm, i have another linux crash again with fuzzy blinking boxes display... |
| 03:44:00 | raptor | weird |
| 03:44:00 | raptor | did you do a recent linux update to the systeM? |
| 03:45:00 | sam686 | it only sometimes happens when starting bitfighter 015a... |
| 03:46:00 | sam686 | not sure how recently i updated... |
| 03:46:00 | sam686 | probably 7 days ago... |
| 03:46:00 | raptor | usually when i get a crash like that, i decide to run bitfighter in gdb continously until i duplicate it |
| 03:49:00 | sam686 | had another crash, though not as big (limited to gui restart to no graphics acceleration) as a whole system crash |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | ctrl + alt + backspace in X to restart - but sometimes you have to do it twice within 2 seconds |
| 03:50:00 | sam686 | it happens when i zoom in (window symbol + mouse wheel scroll), and start bitfighter at the same time |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | interesting, let me try.. |
| 03:50:00 | raptor | no problems here - but maybe that's because I'm using KDE |
| 03:51:00 | sam686 | its probably my intel integrated graphics fully sharing memory with system, and graphics writes to wrong location, or something... |
| 04:13:00 | sam686 | i have some graphics errors when it crash... http://208.107.52.15/upload/intel_gpu_error.txt |
| 04:13:00 | raptor | whoa |
| 04:13:00 | raptor | never seen that before.. |
| 04:14:00 | sam686 | it seems something wrong with a driver, probably... |
| 04:34:00 | raptor | i don't know what to work on.. |
| 04:35:00 | raptor | i think i'll just go to bed |
| 04:35:00 | raptor | good night |
| 04:35:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 04:36:00 | sam686 | night... |
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| 13:50:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Hey guys |
| 13:50:00 | raptor | hi |
| 13:50:00 | raptor | i'm about to fall asleep again.. |
| 13:51:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Ah yes :-) I can be quite boring :-P |
| 13:51:00 | raptor | been up for a while already... |
| 13:51:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | what time is it where you are? |
| 13:51:00 | raptor | almost 7am, been up since 4 |
| 13:51:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Woah, you are up early |
| 13:52:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | It's 10 to 2 here :-) |
| 13:52:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | pm |
| 13:52:00 | raptor | so you are +7 from me |
| 13:53:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | yeah, but sadly it doesn't mean +7 hours sleep lol |
| 13:53:00 | raptor | ok, i'm gonna sign off for a bit - be back in a few hours.. |
| 13:53:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | alright, cya :-) |
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| 15:03:00 | iKoda | Release? |
| 15:04:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | Current release is 015a, the devs are hoping for a 016 release near christmas :-) |
| 15:25:00 | iKoda | I know, I'm just trolling |
| 15:25:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | ok lol |
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| 16:29:00 | raptor | hi sam686, should I do that transparent cursor? |
| 16:30:00 | sam686 | ok.. |
| 16:45:00 | raptor | I'll have a patch for y ou soon.. |
| 16:48:00 | raptor | ok sam686, try this: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/transparent_cursor.diff |
| 16:49:00 | raptor | gota go to another meeting - i'l be back in a bit... |
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| 19:04:00 | raptor | back for a bit |
| 19:04:00 | raptor | sam686: were you able to test that patch? |
| 19:05:00 | sam686 | i will start testing that patch now... |
| 19:08:00 | sam686 | ummm, which revision goes with this patch? |
| 19:08:00 | raptor | tip |
| 19:08:00 | raptor | 29119ace6ad3 |
| 19:09:00 | sam686 | i am getting rejected chunks errors... |
| 19:09:00 | raptor | do you have modified files? |
| 19:09:00 | sam686 | and i am at 29119ace6ad3 |
| 19:10:00 | raptor | i just cleaned and applied the patch no problem. |
| 19:14:00 | sam686 | Cursor.cpp where is static SDL_Cursor *mSpray = NULL;? in Cursor.cpp? |
| 19:14:00 | raptor | ummm... |
| 19:14:00 | sam686 | oh i see it.. |
| 19:14:00 | raptor | hg revert -a |
| 19:14:00 | raptor | then apply the patch |
| 19:14:00 | raptor | :) |
| 19:15:00 | sam686 | for some reason, the line numbers is a little off.... |
| 19:16:00 | raptor | ah.. |
| 19:16:00 | raptor | maybe i merged in different line ending? |
| 19:16:00 | sam686 | i wonder if line number got mixed up because of line ending problem |
| 19:16:00 | raptor | haha, yeah - now we know watusimoto is the culprit.. |
| 19:17:00 | raptor | yep |
| 19:17:00 | raptor | line ending problems |
| 19:17:00 | raptor | i'm sending him an e-mail |
| 19:18:00 | sam686 | could you maybe try a push -f http://208.107.52.15/hg.php/ |
| 19:19:00 | raptor | ok |
| 19:19:00 | raptor | you reverted? |
| 19:19:00 | sam686 | now i reverted... |
| 19:20:00 | raptor | oops, forgot to commit... |
| 19:22:00 | raptor | trying push again... |
| 19:22:00 | raptor | it seems to just stall... |
| 19:23:00 | raptor | does it show me connecting? |
| 19:24:00 | sam686 | can you try http://208.107.52.15:8000/hg.php/ instead? |
| 19:24:00 | raptor | that is what I'm doing... |
| 19:25:00 | raptor | wait! |
| 19:25:00 | raptor | it worked! |
| 19:25:00 | raptor | ok, you'll have a long compile, probably... |
| 19:25:00 | sam686 | good, looks like my web hg.php file may have problems... |
| 19:28:00 | sam686 | it works.. |
| 19:28:00 | raptor | yay! |
| 19:28:00 | raptor | no more mouse reset problem? |
| 19:28:00 | sam686 | no mouse resetting back to mdddle.. |
| 19:28:00 | raptor | great! |
| 19:29:00 | raptor | i'll push to google code |
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| 19:29:00 | sam686 | at the same time, that can fix mouse stuck at top left corner (even without sdl.dll update) |
| 19:29:00 | BlackBird | Guten Tag |
| 19:29:00 | raptor | howdy BB |
| 19:30:00 | BlackBird | howdy yall |
| 19:30:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 19:31:00 | BlackBird | hi |
| 19:31:00 | raptor | hi |
| 19:31:00 | sam686 | hi |
| 19:31:00 | | CrazyLinuxNerd sits back thinking.. o.. kay.... |
| 19:32:00 | BlackBird | i know its been a long time, but has zoomber made any progress on trying to make bitfighter run on iOS? |
| 19:32:00 | raptor | I haven't seen zoomber in like 3 weeks |
| 19:32:00 | BlackBird | really? |
| 19:32:00 | sam686 | probably near zero progress, unless zoomber kepping his own progress a secret.... |
| 19:33:00 | BlackBird | awww |
| 19:34:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | yum install xerces* |
| 19:34:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | d'oh wrong window -.- sorry |
| 19:34:00 | BlackBird | if he was to make an iOS virsion of bitfighter, would it connect to the bitfighter servers, or would it be where a user would have to host his own server? |
| 19:35:00 | BlackBird | from his/her device |
| 19:35:00 | raptor | i would say it would connect to master |
| 19:35:00 | BlackBird | ok |
| 19:35:00 | sam686 | as long as it is the same "015a" version, they could connect to players like most desktop / laptop computer users... |
| 19:35:00 | raptor | i bet the first version of a mobile port would not have hosting ability (or it wouldn't work) |
| 19:35:00 | sam686 | or the same version (doesn't have to be 015a) |
| 19:36:00 | BlackBird | so mobile players would be playing up against desktop players? |
| 19:36:00 | sam686 | probably yes.. |
| 19:36:00 | BlackBird | ok |
| 19:36:00 | raptor | for sure |
| 19:36:00 | raptor | *hypothetically... or course |
| 19:36:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | that would be awesome, while iphone users struggle with their dumb touchscreen i can kick their buts using my ps3 joystick :-D |
| 19:37:00 | BlackBird | i bet i could make a control scheme to be able to play with the same capabillities as a desktop user would have |
| 19:37:00 | BlackBird | i would know |
| 19:37:00 | CrazyLinuxNerd | go ahead :-) |
| 19:37:00 | sam686 | does iphone have USB port for game controllers to connect? |
| 19:37:00 | BlackBird | i play on my iPod alot |
| 19:37:00 | BlackBird | there is the iControllpad... |
| 19:37:00 | raptor | keep adding ideas to that thread - i plan on studying it again if we ever get to the mobile stage... |
| 19:38:00 | BlackBird | i cant find that thread |
| 19:38:00 | sam686 | its best is controls is like a handheld video game... |
| 19:38:00 | BlackBird | did it get deleted? |
| 19:38:00 | raptor | shouldn't have.. |
| 19:38:00 | sam686 | this? http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=863 |
| 19:39:00 | BlackBird | ah hah! |
| 19:40:00 | BlackBird | thank you |
| 19:40:00 | BlackBird | i have ideas on ow to change loadout and weopons |
| 19:40:00 | BlackBird | *how |
| 19:40:00 | | BFLogBot - Commit 12f4c464a27c | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: No more SDL_ShowCursor(SDL_DISABLE). Use a transparent cursor instead. Fixes issues with enabling/disabling cursor resetting cursor position. |
| 19:41:00 | raptor | well that hack is now official |
| 19:41:00 | BlackBird | AND with my idea, you could be fully engaged in combat, firing phasers, and having shield on at the same time |
| 19:41:00 | sam686 | when i pull, nothing happens.... oh raptor pushed that same revision to me first... |
| 19:41:00 | BlackBird | and moving around |
| 19:41:00 | BlackBird | ?? |
| 19:42:00 | BlackBird | say wha? |
| 19:42:00 | raptor | great! |
| 19:42:00 | sam686 | its HG subversion... |
| 19:42:00 | raptor | i alwys wondered what would happen in that case |
| 19:42:00 | raptor | looks like it works cleanly |
| 19:43:00 | BlackBird | i need to make more of those "simulated screenshots" |
| 19:44:00 | BlackBird | does zoomber have an iDevice? |
| 19:45:00 | sam686 | from what i heard, some mobile apple device might need developer license? |
| 19:45:00 | raptor | yeah its $100 for apple dev license - but honesly it might be easier to port to android first... |
| 19:46:00 | raptor | also, BlackBird, I like your graphic mock-ups |
| 19:46:00 | raptor | they are helpful illustrations |
| 19:47:00 | BlackBird | thanks |
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| 19:47:00 | BlackBird | that last pic on the thread, is missing the movment stick |
| 19:48:00 | BlackBird | or you could turn the slider into the movmment stick |
| 19:50:00 | BlackBird | raptor: u know the notifacations bar you pull down from the top of the screen? what if, in bitfighter mobile, you pulled down the energy bar to open the loadout menu? |
| 19:51:00 | BlackBird | (the notifacatons bar from android/iOS) |
| 19:52:00 | BlackBird | bai people |
| 19:52:00 | raptor | i actually don't know... |
| 19:53:00 | BlackBird | ?? |
| 19:53:00 | raptor | i have little experience with mobile.. |
| 19:53:00 | BlackBird | do you have an iOS device? |
| 19:53:00 | raptor | nope |
| 19:53:00 | BlackBird | ok |
| 19:53:00 | raptor | i have no mobile device |
| 19:53:00 | BlackBird | then go to the apple store amd takke an iphone, and drag your finger from the top of the screen, downwards |
| 19:54:00 | BlackBird | i should go now |
| 19:54:00 | raptor | ok |
| 19:54:00 | raptor | good bye |
| 19:54:00 | BlackBird | bai |
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| 20:28:00 | raptor | so koda, do you have a new government yet? |
| 20:32:00 | koda | something like that, yeah |
| 20:33:00 | raptor | we don't get very good international news over here - so I'd thought I'd ask at the source (I'm sincerely curious) |
| 20:38:00 | raptor | but i understand if it is an issue of sensitive nature |
| 21:03:00 | koda | i've just haven't been following very closely, i don't want to say wrong things |
| 21:03:00 | raptor | ok no problem |
| 21:03:00 | raptor | our intl' news is so bad that I have to go to BBC to hear anything of value |
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| 21:55:00 | raptor | openSUSE 12.1 was released - time for some testing to see if I should upgrade |
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| 22:35:00 | BlackBird | wo hast alle gehen? |
| 22:35:00 | raptor | see |
| 22:35:00 | raptor | i can't read german |
| 22:35:00 | raptor | but i can understand half of it when i hear it |
| 22:35:00 | raptor | maybe only 1/4 |
| 22:35:00 | BlackBird | i use google translate :3 |
| 22:36:00 | BlackBird | i can kinda understand the context of a german conversation |
| 22:36:00 | BlackBird | sorta |
| 22:36:00 | raptor | are you learning it in school? |
| 22:36:00 | BlackBird | nope |
| 22:36:00 | BlackBird | but i reaeaaaalllly want to learn it |
| 22:37:00 | BlackBird | want to hear something compleatly out of the blue? |
| 22:39:00 | BlackBird | i guess not |
| 22:39:00 | raptor | hi |
| 22:39:00 | raptor | blue |
| 22:39:00 | raptor | ok |
| 22:39:00 | BlackBird | ... |
| 22:40:00 | BlackBird | Minecraft Pocket Edition for iOS is coming out tomarrow!!!!!!! |
| 22:40:00 | BlackBird | AAAAAAAHHHH |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | interesting - is is an official port of minecraft? |
| 22:40:00 | BlackBird | yup |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | do you have a link? |
| 22:40:00 | BlackBird | what wha? |
| 22:40:00 | raptor | i can look at it? |
| 22:41:00 | BlackBird | ummm |
| 22:41:00 | BlackBird | hold on.. |
| 22:41:00 | raptor | because I am having a hard time seeing how official minecraft can run on iOS |
| 22:41:00 | raptor | because it's java-based |
| 22:42:00 | BlackBird | i dont think they took the desktop minecraft and slapped strait onto iOS |
| 22:42:00 | BlackBird | http://www.anandtech.com/show/5121/minecraft-pocket-edition-comes-to-ios-tomorrow |
| 22:43:00 | BlackBird | here is a headline thingy |
| 22:43:00 | BlackBird | or do you want a wiki |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | that's fine |
| 22:43:00 | raptor | i'm just curious about the technical aspects of porting a java-based game to iOS |
| 22:45:00 | BlackBird | someone did make a 2D virsion of minecraft called "Crafted" |
| 22:46:00 | BlackBird | however they removed that from the appstore |
| 22:46:00 | BlackBird | im not sure why |
| 22:48:00 | raptor | i'm leaving - be back in a few hours |
| 22:48:00 | BlackBird | ok |
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