#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-03-18

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00:05:12 Watusimoto_ I really like islamic art
00:05:33 raptor i couldn't help but wonder what europe was doing for a thousand years...
00:05:44 Watusimoto_ enjoying the plague
00:06:11 Watusimoto_ dark ages indeed
00:06:15 raptor i mean, the mathematics, the detail, the metalwork of the Muslims from the 8th century to the 19th is absolutely amazing
00:06:23 Watusimoto_ yes
00:06:35 Watusimoto_ I saw a lot of that in the middle east
00:07:09 Watusimoto_ for instance, a wonderful collection of korans in kuwait that somehow survived the iraq invasion
00:07:37 raptor yes, there were lots of pieces on exhibit from kuwait
00:08:05 raptor this was the exhibit:  http://beautyandbelief.byu.edu/
00:09:08 Watusimoto_ looks like some good stuff
00:10:00 raptor oh yeah - i can't believe how intricately they did some of the metal work as early as the 11th century
00:10:27 raptor why do they teach us about squabling european tribes in school instead?
00:13:28 raptor anyways, it was pretty neat
00:24:29 Watusimoto_ well, sounds fun.  I'm off to bed
00:24:31 Watusimoto_ good night!
00:24:33 raptor night
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01:38:09 raptor i got sdl2 working
01:38:12 raptor in linux...
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03:15:57 raptor it works in mac!
03:16:05 raptor and the window problems are fixed
03:16:09 raptor hooray!
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04:22:31 raptor so it looks like using SDL2 for Mac is the way to go - although I have to figure out how to build the menu
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05:01:35 raptor good night
05:01:54 zoomber_mbp hi raptor
05:02:01 raptor oh hello
05:02:51 raptor good night
05:02:57 zoomber_mbp just wanted to acknowledge and appriciate
05:03:01 zoomber_mbp your good sdl fixes!
05:03:25 raptor ha!  not done yet...  but soon...
05:04:55 zoomber_mbp okj
05:05:06 zoomber_mbp well, no use not sleeping to keep me company, get some well deserved rest!
05:05:11 zoomber_mbp oooh, rain in los angeles!
05:05:18 zoomber_mbp sooo cozy
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05:37:57 BFLogBot - Commit 54a1d2eee054 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix compile warnings
05:58:00 BFLogBot - Commit 4b37999aac76 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: SDL header changes, preparing for the future.  Sorry you'll have to do a full recompile
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13:44:07 raptor good morning!
13:45:03 raptor FYI, looks like SDL2 has SDL_GetClipboardText() / SDL_SetClipboardText()
13:52:27 raptor we can easily move to SDL2 on windows / Mac, but not on linux...  no distribution has it compiled as a shared library
13:53:42 BFLogBot - Commit fc2944a1b5c5 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix Xcode project
14:09:22 raptor I can cleanly commit all my SDL2 changes without any adverse effects with building for SDL 1.2 on all platforms (i used lots of #if )
14:38:47 BFLogBot - Commit b6f2d40243fa | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix header licenses
14:43:49 BFLogBot - Commit 6324702512ae | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Swapping buffers already calls glFlush()
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15:57:08 raptor ok Watusimoto, i'm going to do it
15:57:14 raptor commit SDL2 code
15:57:52 raptor it won't mess anyone's compiling up unless explicitely enabled in the includes
16:10:17 raptor the deed is done...
16:13:58 BFLogBot - Commit 41df7ce200a2 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Add in SDL 2.0 headers and notes
16:13:59 BFLogBot - Commit 5782b35ca102 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Port Bitfighter to SDL 2.0!  It compiles and runs with same capability as SDL 1.2.  Note: all systems are still using SDL 1.2 for now
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16:32:28 Watusimoto and... how does it work?
16:32:40 raptor works great!
16:32:44 Watusimoto excellent!
16:32:54 raptor haven't testing on windows because i need to compile and link it...
16:32:56 raptor but on Mac
16:32:57 Watusimoto any improvements that are apparent?
16:33:01 raptor very nice
16:33:09 Watusimoto game work in 3D or anything?
16:33:15 raptor ?
16:33:31 Watusimoto you mean updating to SDL2 won't give us an extra dimension?
16:33:37 Watusimoto rats
16:33:37 raptor ha
16:33:47 raptor all the window stuff is nice now
16:33:54 Watusimoto well that's really cool
16:34:01 sam686 it can work as 3D (using opengl) if it is programmed to do so
16:34:07 raptor just a simple command to get or set any window info
16:34:20 Watusimoto in the meantime, I've been mired in reredoing the nexus timer stuff
16:34:20 raptor instead of accessing all the system-specific libraries...
16:34:23 Watusimoto blech
16:34:30 raptor yuk
16:34:39 Watusimoto I wonder if any of the unfixable windowing bugs are now fixable
16:34:52 raptor alt + enter works now
16:35:07 Watusimoto as in hold alt, press enter twice
16:35:12 raptor yep
16:35:19 Watusimoto !!!
16:35:30 raptor and i don't think fake fullscreen is needed anymroe
16:35:38 Watusimoto that would be very nice
16:36:06 raptor it automatically does that fast resolution switching if it can
16:36:30 Watusimoto almost as good as glut now!
16:36:33 raptor haha
16:36:57 raptor oh, there is clipboard support
16:37:09 Watusimoto yes; this will be great
16:37:22 Watusimoto copy an item in the editor, and put it on the system clipboard as levelcode
16:37:28 raptor but i expect that feature would be mac + windows only for a while...
16:37:43 Watusimoto paste, and reconstitiute the object9s)
16:37:49 raptor if i ever get it to link on windows...
16:37:56 raptor oh
16:38:02 Watusimoto well, even so; we won't break the existing functionality for linux
16:38:11 raptor sdl2 on windows can use directx
16:38:23 Watusimoto is that good? :-)
16:38:37 raptor it is good for better joystick and audio support
16:38:49 raptor actually maybe just joystick
16:38:54 raptor because we use openAL
16:39:03 Watusimoto our audio seems to work pretty well
16:39:23 sam686 heres an idea for clopboard, copy to text "SpeedZone 3 4" or similar, to be pasted into notepad, or paste in editor from clipboard text. text
16:39:42 raptor but the problem is this:  SDL2 may *require* directx on the system
16:39:57 Watusimoto sam -- exactly
16:40:00 raptor unless i explicitely tell it to not hook into directX with the SDL_config file
16:40:06 sam686 all windows xp and later already have directx
16:40:16 raptor sam686: ok, that was my next question
16:40:17 Watusimoto will make dealing with levelcode forums much easier
16:40:57 raptor can we release 017 first?  i keep telling myself not to feature creep
16:41:45 Watusimoto yes -- 017 will have just the final few issues I'm working on
16:42:06 Watusimoto we'll release that, then we can include sdl2 stuff in 018
16:42:09 Watusimoto rapid releases
16:42:34 Watusimoto hopefully some clipboard enhancements for 018
16:42:42 sam686 i think changing sdl version might be able to keep it compatible to existing version
16:42:51 Watusimoto we can include whatever sdl2 stuff makes sense with 017
16:42:56 sam686 so, maybe 017 for our old SDL, and 017a for new SDL...
16:43:02 Watusimoto sam -  you are probably right
16:43:09 Watusimoto but other features may break compatibility
16:43:16 Watusimoto we'll see what we decide on
16:44:10 raptor oh, i'm ripping out the video/window stuff from main.cpp into it's own class
16:44:16 raptor it's bugging me
16:44:24 Watusimoto good
16:44:30 raptor should i call it 'VideoSystem'?
16:44:33 raptor or something..
16:44:33 Watusimoto sure
16:44:35 raptor ok
16:44:45 Watusimoto what else do we have that's similar?
16:44:51 raptor SoundSystem
16:45:01 Watusimoto sure
16:45:05 Watusimoto that sounds fine
17:15:24 raptor ok pushed
17:16:23 raptor i hope your merge isn't too ugly
17:19:06 BFLogBot - Commit b969d9e929d7 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Create VideoSystem class and move all the video/window methods to it from main.cpp
17:19:27 raptor FYI your vc++ projects are updated, too
17:28:40 raptor oops, i may have broke something...
17:30:09 raptor well, only for sdl2
17:52:48 raptor sadly there is an SDL2 bug - switching from fullscreen to windowed on linux doesn't always set the correct windowed resolution
17:55:57 raptor but that's ok, because we won't be going to sdl2 on linux for a while...
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22:01:13 BlackBird_ ello?
22:01:57 BlackBird_ Bitfighter has gotten wwaayy too quiet
22:03:19 BlackBird_ What happened to _k?
22:04:39 Watusimoto hi
22:04:48 Watusimoto not sure -- I think he's on haitus
22:06:16 BlackBird_ what?
22:06:19 BlackBird_ where?
22:07:18 BlackBird_ oh
22:07:40 BlackBird_ Its been very quiet without him
22:09:57 BlackBird_ SHAZAP!
22:10:01 BlackBird_ ...
22:10:06 BlackBird_ WAKE UPPP!!!!!
22:13:01 Watusimoto indeed it has
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22:42:56 raptor hello
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23:07:31 raptor so my question is:  do all windows-based platforms that can run bitfighter also have directx?
23:12:39 Watusimoto hi raptor
23:12:51 Watusimoto all you did in nexusgame.cpp was change the path to SDL, right?
23:13:00 raptor yes
23:13:10 Watusimoto ok, I tihnk the merge went well
23:13:32 Watusimoto I'm checking a few things in, and signing out for the evening
23:13:40 Watusimoto tomorrow we can review where we aer for the release
23:13:54 Watusimoto I haevn't looked at the list, but I have only one very minor issue left on my paper list
23:14:18 Watusimoto and if my memory serves, there are still a couple of items on the 017 wiki list that maybe we can skip
23:14:38 Watusimoto and there is nothing on the google list that we need for 017
23:14:40 BFLogBot - Commit b5706044b967 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Joining a game with unlimited time now shows "Unlim" properly
23:14:42 BFLogBot - Commit 6f8776b38225 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Change the way game times are sent to client to ensure unlim works always and foreverafter.  Also fixes nexus timing errors with unlim games.
23:14:42 raptor ok
23:14:43 BFLogBot - Commit d87ee6d2eaaa | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove dead code
23:14:45 BFLogBot - Commit 22532e1a9fcd | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix Nexus update time bug with unlimited time games
23:14:46 BFLogBot - Commit 538e60024504 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Didn't need to be U32 after all!
23:14:48 BFLogBot - Commit 90b6b86cefd1 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: If ship is sitting on nexus when flag drifts by, score it!
23:14:49 BFLogBot - Commit fbd2aa9a22ef | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix core rendering in instructions via hacky hack
23:14:51 BFLogBot - Commit 615a5fd4035f | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Make cores rotate same direction in instructions as in game
23:14:52 BFLogBot - Commit 6b5b8366e5e7 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Use mousewheel to select weapon
23:14:54 BFLogBot - Commit 6b6909ddb62a | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Comment
23:14:55 BFLogBot - Commit 965fd624598b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge
23:15:05 raptor WOW
23:15:09 raptor how much did you do
23:15:12 Watusimoto busy busy
23:15:48 Watusimoto the only paper list item has to do with a botched dialog when you can;t connect to the master
23:16:07 Watusimoto should take me only a short time, and if that slips, so be it
23:16:15 raptor a regression?
23:16:20 Watusimoto who knows
23:16:23 Watusimoto it's so rare
23:16:32 Watusimoto but it should be easy
23:17:03 Watusimoto I just need to identify the codepath and make sure that a message gets set
23:17:38 Watusimoto I'm going to do a full recompile now and make sure your stuff compiles for me
23:17:51 raptor ok
23:17:53 raptor me too
23:17:53 Watusimoto also... I don't know the answer to your question
23:18:08 raptor which one?
23:18:15 Watusimoto about activex
23:18:24 Watusimoto directx
23:18:26 Watusimoto sorry
23:18:28 raptor oh yeah
23:18:36 Watusimoto sam suggested the answer was yes
23:18:37 raptor well, i can compile sdl2 without directx
23:18:43 Watusimoto not worried about anything prior to xp
23:18:45 raptor but then it uses really old apis
23:18:50 raptor oh ok
23:19:05 Watusimoto so the question is does xp/vista/win7 have direct x
23:19:10 raptor which is yes
23:19:16 Watusimoto older machines can download it
23:19:21 Watusimoto if anyone still uses them
23:19:40 Watusimoto who games on win2000?
23:19:52 Watusimoto or windows ME?
23:19:58 Watusimoto no one, that's who
23:20:01 raptor cimpile fail:  http://pastie.org/3624531
23:20:11 raptor win2000 had a version of directx, too
23:21:27 Watusimoto that error looks like S32 v U32
23:22:55 Watusimoto checked in a possible fix
23:23:23 Watusimoto I'll try to check back in briefly in a few minutes to make sure everything is compiling for you
23:23:33 raptor ok
23:23:37 Watusimoto if you get further errors, post a pastie, and I'll try to look before bed
23:24:08 raptor fixed!
23:24:09 Watusimoto that looks a bit like a merge artifact...
23:24:17 Watusimoto ok, good
23:24:24 raptor th rest compiled cleanly
23:24:25 Watusimoto alright, well later!
23:24:27 raptor night
23:24:29 Watusimoto excellent!
23:24:57 BFLogBot - Commit 74c86ccf5424 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: speculative fix for raptor compile problem
23:27:11 Watusimoto compiled here
23:29:01 raptor yay
23:34:29 raptor Watusimoto: you forked yourself again somehow
23:34:40 raptor no wait
23:34:56 raptor you didn't - google code graph was funny
23:41:10 raptor maybe the unlim timer finally works?
23:41:22 raptor that would be amazing....
23:45:13 raptor good job on the mouse wheel

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00:04:36		Flynnn Quit (Quit: This computer has gone to sleep)
00:05:12	Watusimoto_	I really like islamic art
00:05:33	raptor	i couldn't help but wonder what europe was doing for a thousand years...
00:05:44	Watusimoto_	enjoying the plague
00:06:11	Watusimoto_	dark ages indeed
00:06:15	raptor	i mean, the mathematics, the detail, the metalwork of the Muslims from the 8th century to the 19th is absolutely amazing
00:06:23	Watusimoto_	yes
00:06:35	Watusimoto_	I saw a lot of that in the middle east
00:07:09	Watusimoto_	for instance, a wonderful collection of korans in kuwait that somehow survived the iraq invasion
00:07:37	raptor	yes, there were lots of pieces on exhibit from kuwait
00:08:05	raptor	this was the exhibit: http://beautyandbelief.byu.edu/
00:09:08	Watusimoto_	looks like some good stuff
00:10:00	raptor	oh yeah - i can't believe how intricately they did some of the metal work as early as the 11th century
00:10:27	raptor	why do they teach us about squabling european tribes in school instead?
00:13:28	raptor	anyways, it was pretty neat
00:24:29	Watusimoto_	well, sounds fun. I'm off to bed
00:24:31	Watusimoto_	good night!
00:24:33	raptor	night
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01:38:09	raptor	i got sdl2 working
01:38:12	raptor	in linux...
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03:15:57	raptor	it works in mac!
03:16:05	raptor	and the window problems are fixed
03:16:09	raptor	hooray!
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04:22:31	raptor	so it looks like using SDL2 for Mac is the way to go - although I have to figure out how to build the menu
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05:01:35	raptor	good night
05:01:54	zoomber_mbp	hi raptor
05:02:01	raptor	oh hello
05:02:51	raptor	good night
05:02:57	zoomber_mbp	just wanted to acknowledge and appriciate
05:03:01	zoomber_mbp	your good sdl fixes!
05:03:25	raptor	ha! not done yet... but soon...
05:04:55	zoomber_mbp	okj
05:05:06	zoomber_mbp	well, no use not sleeping to keep me company, get some well deserved rest!
05:05:11	zoomber_mbp	oooh, rain in los angeles!
05:05:18	zoomber_mbp	sooo cozy
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05:37:57		BFLogBot - Commit 54a1d2eee054 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Fix compile warnings
05:58:00		BFLogBot - Commit 4b37999aac76 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: SDL header changes, preparing for the future. Sorry you'll have to do a full recompile
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13:44:07	raptor	good morning!
13:45:03	raptor	FYI, looks like SDL2 has SDL_GetClipboardText() / SDL_SetClipboardText()
13:52:27	raptor	we can easily move to SDL2 on windows / Mac, but not on linux... no distribution has it compiled as a shared library
13:53:42		BFLogBot - Commit fc2944a1b5c5 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Fix Xcode project
14:09:22	raptor	I can cleanly commit all my SDL2 changes without any adverse effects with building for SDL 1.2 on all platforms (i used lots of #if )
14:38:47		BFLogBot - Commit b6f2d40243fa \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Fix header licenses
14:43:49		BFLogBot - Commit 6324702512ae \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Swapping buffers already calls glFlush()
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15:57:08	raptor	ok Watusimoto, i'm going to do it
15:57:14	raptor	commit SDL2 code
15:57:52	raptor	it won't mess anyone's compiling up unless explicitely enabled in the includes
16:10:17	raptor	the deed is done...
16:13:58		BFLogBot - Commit 41df7ce200a2 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Add in SDL 2.0 headers and notes
16:13:59		BFLogBot - Commit 5782b35ca102 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Port Bitfighter to SDL 2.0! It compiles and runs with same capability as SDL 1.2. Note: all systems are still using SDL 1.2 for now
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16:32:28	Watusimoto	and... how does it work?
16:32:40	raptor	works great!
16:32:44	Watusimoto	excellent!
16:32:54	raptor	haven't testing on windows because i need to compile and link it...
16:32:56	raptor	but on Mac
16:32:57	Watusimoto	any improvements that are apparent?
16:33:01	raptor	very nice
16:33:09	Watusimoto	game work in 3D or anything?
16:33:15	raptor	?
16:33:31	Watusimoto	you mean updating to SDL2 won't give us an extra dimension?
16:33:37	Watusimoto	rats
16:33:37	raptor	ha
16:33:47	raptor	all the window stuff is nice now
16:33:54	Watusimoto	well that's really cool
16:34:01	sam686	it can work as 3D (using opengl) if it is programmed to do so
16:34:07	raptor	just a simple command to get or set any window info
16:34:20	Watusimoto	in the meantime, I've been mired in reredoing the nexus timer stuff
16:34:20	raptor	instead of accessing all the system-specific libraries...
16:34:23	Watusimoto	blech
16:34:30	raptor	yuk
16:34:39	Watusimoto	I wonder if any of the unfixable windowing bugs are now fixable
16:34:52	raptor	alt + enter works now
16:35:07	Watusimoto	as in hold alt, press enter twice
16:35:12	raptor	yep
16:35:19	Watusimoto	!!!
16:35:30	raptor	and i don't think fake fullscreen is needed anymroe
16:35:38	Watusimoto	that would be very nice
16:36:06	raptor	it automatically does that fast resolution switching if it can
16:36:30	Watusimoto	almost as good as glut now!
16:36:33	raptor	haha
16:36:57	raptor	oh, there is clipboard support
16:37:09	Watusimoto	yes; this will be great
16:37:22	Watusimoto	copy an item in the editor, and put it on the system clipboard as levelcode
16:37:28	raptor	but i expect that feature would be mac + windows only for a while...
16:37:43	Watusimoto	paste, and reconstitiute the object9s)
16:37:49	raptor	if i ever get it to link on windows...
16:37:56	raptor	oh
16:38:02	Watusimoto	well, even so; we won't break the existing functionality for linux
16:38:11	raptor	sdl2 on windows can use directx
16:38:23	Watusimoto	is that good? :-)
16:38:37	raptor	it is good for better joystick and audio support
16:38:49	raptor	actually maybe just joystick
16:38:54	raptor	because we use openAL
16:39:03	Watusimoto	our audio seems to work pretty well
16:39:23	sam686	heres an idea for clopboard, copy to text "SpeedZone 3 4" or similar, to be pasted into notepad, or paste in editor from clipboard text. text
16:39:42	raptor	but the problem is this: SDL2 may require directx on the system
16:39:57	Watusimoto	sam -- exactly
16:40:00	raptor	unless i explicitely tell it to not hook into directX with the SDL_config file
16:40:06	sam686	all windows xp and later already have directx
16:40:16	raptor	sam686: ok, that was my next question
16:40:17	Watusimoto	will make dealing with levelcode forums much easier
16:40:57	raptor	can we release 017 first? i keep telling myself not to feature creep
16:41:45	Watusimoto	yes -- 017 will have just the final few issues I'm working on
16:42:06	Watusimoto	we'll release that, then we can include sdl2 stuff in 018
16:42:09	Watusimoto	rapid releases
16:42:34	Watusimoto	hopefully some clipboard enhancements for 018
16:42:42	sam686	i think changing sdl version might be able to keep it compatible to existing version
16:42:51	Watusimoto	we can include whatever sdl2 stuff makes sense with 017
16:42:56	sam686	so, maybe 017 for our old SDL, and 017a for new SDL...
16:43:02	Watusimoto	sam - you are probably right
16:43:09	Watusimoto	but other features may break compatibility
16:43:16	Watusimoto	we'll see what we decide on
16:44:10	raptor	oh, i'm ripping out the video/window stuff from main.cpp into it's own class
16:44:16	raptor	it's bugging me
16:44:24	Watusimoto	good
16:44:30	raptor	should i call it 'VideoSystem'?
16:44:33	raptor	or something..
16:44:33	Watusimoto	sure
16:44:35	raptor	ok
16:44:45	Watusimoto	what else do we have that's similar?
16:44:51	raptor	SoundSystem
16:45:01	Watusimoto	sure
16:45:05	Watusimoto	that sounds fine
17:15:24	raptor	ok pushed
17:16:23	raptor	i hope your merge isn't too ugly
17:19:06		BFLogBot - Commit b969d9e929d7 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Create VideoSystem class and move all the video/window methods to it from main.cpp
17:19:27	raptor	FYI your vc++ projects are updated, too
17:28:40	raptor	oops, i may have broke something...
17:30:09	raptor	well, only for sdl2
17:52:48	raptor	sadly there is an SDL2 bug - switching from fullscreen to windowed on linux doesn't always set the correct windowed resolution
17:55:57	raptor	but that's ok, because we won't be going to sdl2 on linux for a while...
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22:01:13	BlackBird_	ello?
22:01:57	BlackBird_	Bitfighter has gotten wwaayy too quiet
22:03:19	BlackBird_	What happened to _k?
22:04:39	Watusimoto	hi
22:04:48	Watusimoto	not sure -- I think he's on haitus
22:06:16	BlackBird_	what?
22:06:19	BlackBird_	where?
22:07:18	BlackBird_	oh
22:07:40	BlackBird_	Its been very quiet without him
22:09:57	BlackBird_	SHAZAP!
22:10:01	BlackBird_	...
22:10:06	BlackBird_	WAKE UPPP!!!!!
22:13:01	Watusimoto	indeed it has
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22:42:56	raptor	hello
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23:07:31	raptor	so my question is: do all windows-based platforms that can run bitfighter also have directx?
23:12:39	Watusimoto	hi raptor
23:12:51	Watusimoto	all you did in nexusgame.cpp was change the path to SDL, right?
23:13:00	raptor	yes
23:13:10	Watusimoto	ok, I tihnk the merge went well
23:13:32	Watusimoto	I'm checking a few things in, and signing out for the evening
23:13:40	Watusimoto	tomorrow we can review where we aer for the release
23:13:54	Watusimoto	I haevn't looked at the list, but I have only one very minor issue left on my paper list
23:14:18	Watusimoto	and if my memory serves, there are still a couple of items on the 017 wiki list that maybe we can skip
23:14:38	Watusimoto	and there is nothing on the google list that we need for 017
23:14:40		BFLogBot - Commit b5706044b967 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Joining a game with unlimited time now shows "Unlim" properly
23:14:42		BFLogBot - Commit 6f8776b38225 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Change the way game times are sent to client to ensure unlim works always and foreverafter. Also fixes nexus timing errors with unlim games.
23:14:42	raptor	ok
23:14:43		BFLogBot - Commit d87ee6d2eaaa \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Remove dead code
23:14:45		BFLogBot - Commit 22532e1a9fcd \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Fix Nexus update time bug with unlimited time games
23:14:46		BFLogBot - Commit 538e60024504 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Didn't need to be U32 after all!
23:14:48		BFLogBot - Commit 90b6b86cefd1 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: If ship is sitting on nexus when flag drifts by, score it!
23:14:49		BFLogBot - Commit fbd2aa9a22ef \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Fix core rendering in instructions via hacky hack
23:14:51		BFLogBot - Commit 615a5fd4035f \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Make cores rotate same direction in instructions as in game
23:14:52		BFLogBot - Commit 6b5b8366e5e7 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Use mousewheel to select weapon
23:14:54		BFLogBot - Commit 6b6909ddb62a \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Comment
23:14:55		BFLogBot - Commit 965fd624598b \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Merge
23:15:05	raptor	WOW
23:15:09	raptor	how much did you do
23:15:12	Watusimoto	busy busy
23:15:48	Watusimoto	the only paper list item has to do with a botched dialog when you can;t connect to the master
23:16:07	Watusimoto	should take me only a short time, and if that slips, so be it
23:16:15	raptor	a regression?
23:16:20	Watusimoto	who knows
23:16:23	Watusimoto	it's so rare
23:16:32	Watusimoto	but it should be easy
23:17:03	Watusimoto	I just need to identify the codepath and make sure that a message gets set
23:17:38	Watusimoto	I'm going to do a full recompile now and make sure your stuff compiles for me
23:17:51	raptor	ok
23:17:53	raptor	me too
23:17:53	Watusimoto	also... I don't know the answer to your question
23:18:08	raptor	which one?
23:18:15	Watusimoto	about activex
23:18:24	Watusimoto	directx
23:18:26	Watusimoto	sorry
23:18:28	raptor	oh yeah
23:18:36	Watusimoto	sam suggested the answer was yes
23:18:37	raptor	well, i can compile sdl2 without directx
23:18:43	Watusimoto	not worried about anything prior to xp
23:18:45	raptor	but then it uses really old apis
23:18:50	raptor	oh ok
23:19:05	Watusimoto	so the question is does xp/vista/win7 have direct x
23:19:10	raptor	which is yes
23:19:16	Watusimoto	older machines can download it
23:19:21	Watusimoto	if anyone still uses them
23:19:40	Watusimoto	who games on win2000?
23:19:52	Watusimoto	or windows ME?
23:19:58	Watusimoto	no one, that's who
23:20:01	raptor	cimpile fail: http://pastie.org/3624531
23:20:11	raptor	win2000 had a version of directx, too
23:21:27	Watusimoto	that error looks like S32 v U32
23:22:55	Watusimoto	checked in a possible fix
23:23:23	Watusimoto	I'll try to check back in briefly in a few minutes to make sure everything is compiling for you
23:23:33	raptor	ok
23:23:37	Watusimoto	if you get further errors, post a pastie, and I'll try to look before bed
23:24:08	raptor	fixed!
23:24:09	Watusimoto	that looks a bit like a merge artifact...
23:24:17	Watusimoto	ok, good
23:24:24	raptor	th rest compiled cleanly
23:24:25	Watusimoto	alright, well later!
23:24:27	raptor	night
23:24:29	Watusimoto	excellent!
23:24:57		BFLogBot - Commit 74c86ccf5424 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: speculative fix for raptor compile problem
23:27:11	Watusimoto	compiled here
23:29:01	raptor	yay
23:34:29	raptor	Watusimoto: you forked yourself again somehow
23:34:40	raptor	no wait
23:34:56	raptor	you didn't - google code graph was funny
23:41:10	raptor	maybe the unlim timer finally works?
23:41:22	raptor	that would be amazing....
23:45:13	raptor	good job on the mouse wheel