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| 03:31:30 | raptor | FYI: some really crazy code here (for fun): http://www.ioccc.org/years.html |
| 03:55:19 | Zoomber | FALSE APPLE: tri-tone ringtone is NOT a tri-tone |
| 03:55:34 | Zoomber | its a simple octave with a 5th arpegiated within the middle of it |
| 03:55:51 | Zoomber | so technically you can call it an *Augmented* tri-tone |
| 03:55:54 | Zoomber | but NO, your wrong |
| 03:56:47 | raptor | ummm |
| 03:56:49 | raptor | rant? |
| 03:57:39 | Zoomber | you know i love to |
| 04:03:49 | sam686 | i think intel have some opengl graphics hardware decellerator... because of very slow readPixels, and now i find glCopyTexSubImage (to copy backbuffer to texture) even slower, thats on my intel 945, and that makes my video recording on opengl games slow... (thats for my small laptop) |
| 04:04:04 | sam686 | My desktop with Radeon 9200 have a fast readPixels, and super fast glCopyTexSubImage |
| 04:04:13 | raptor | yeah the 945 always had opengl bugs... |
| 04:04:37 | raptor | could it be the drivers? |
| 04:05:06 | Zoomber | its well |
| 04:05:23 | Zoomber | sorry, super-sneeze |
| 04:05:24 | sam686 | things might be different, on SDL 2.0 (then before where some might have complain about pressing enter while holding down alt) |
| 04:05:44 | raptor | are we talking about 3 different topics here? |
| 04:05:45 | Zoomber | raptor: that's just the 945's personality. nobody's gonna change him |
| 04:05:59 | sam686 | how that appear? i might hape pressed up arrow on accident |
| 04:06:24 | raptor | haha |
| 04:07:24 | sam686 | linux seems to have slower graphice (for intel 945) then windows |
| 04:07:35 | raptor | must be the drivers, then |
| 04:07:49 | sam686 | probably the drivers |
| 04:08:31 | sam686 | but, its an old intel 945 (though my radeon 9200 is older) i don't think i will find any latest drivers (i probably have the latest) |
| 04:10:13 | raptor | what distribution are you runnign again? (version?) |
| 04:10:33 | Zoomber | as in.. sam windows xp? me mac |
| 04:10:40 | sam686 | for linux, ubuntu, but i haven't test on linux, only windows |
| 04:10:42 | raptor | sam686's linux |
| 04:10:51 | Zoomber | i thought sam's desktop was windows |
| 04:11:05 | sam686 | i mostly use windows, its faster for my old computers.. |
| 04:11:24 | sam686 | mostly, faster hardware graphics |
| 04:11:37 | Zoomber | should upgrade to windows 7 then...better designed for weaker computers than xp |
| 04:12:21 | raptor | i've found that windows xp is still about 25% faster than windows 7 on weaker computers |
| 04:12:24 | sam686 | i might as well get a new computer, instead of upgrading... upgrading does not speed up the CPU (which makes a difference on compiling speed) |
| 04:13:11 | Zoomber | nonono raptor, my almost imbootable acer netbook runs much more cleanly and faster with 7 |
| 04:13:11 | raptor | yep |
| 04:13:28 | raptor | really? |
| 04:13:30 | raptor | huh |
| 04:13:39 | Zoomber | mac was even faster though...so maybe it was a fluke |
| 04:13:39 | raptor | i'm thinking about older 32bit desktops |
| 04:13:44 | Zoomber | it is.. |
| 04:13:48 | Zoomber | oh |
| 04:13:53 | Zoomber | well, an old 32 bit netbook |
| 04:13:57 | Zoomber | with that intel card |
| 04:14:04 | Zoomber | or some sort of intel GMA |
| 04:14:08 | Zoomber | my macbook had the 950 gma |
| 04:14:22 | sam686 | also, in order to use windows 7 on my old computer (with fancy aero graphics) i would need to upgrade to a newer graphics card, if there is some newer AGP cards out there (my old computer don't have PCI express) |
| 04:15:19 | sam686 | but... My radeon 9200 AGP and radeon 9250 PCI is good enough, and windows XP appears good enough for my old omputers... |
| 04:16:19 | Zoomber | could disable aero graphics? |
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| 04:16:41 | sam686 | yes, but then windows 7 wouldn't look as good when off.. |
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| 04:17:25 | Zoomber | would be faster though |
| 04:17:35 | Zoomber | but, can still switch to old classic theme, even on 7 |
| 04:18:00 | sam686 | i guess DirectX 10 requires windows vista or 7 (and direct3D 10 graphics card) to work |
| 04:19:18 | raptor | i think you can hack dx10 on windows xp - i saw an article on it once |
| 04:19:37 | Zoomber | oh im sure |
| 04:19:41 | sam686 | my desktop have an old TV capture card (480i resolution), i will likely keep using my desktop as long as it still works.. |
| 04:19:44 | Zoomber | all it takes is a google |
| 04:20:03 | Zoomber | tv capture? like you can capture cable on it or export signal? |
| 04:20:28 | sam686 | yes, it can receive tv channels and record |
| 04:22:38 | sam686 | crazy google home page looking like a zipper... |
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| 04:31:12 | raptor | well good night folks |
| 04:33:30 | sam686 | i can maybe even show you a screenshot of tv out (graphics) straight to tv in (capture) |
| 04:36:23 | sam686 | i am showing you that screenshot... |
| 04:36:40 | sam686 | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/tv_grab01567.jpg |
| 04:41:43 | sam686 | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/tv_720x480_grab04623.jpg |
| 04:44:44 | sam686 | one problem is interlaced signal will cause some horizontal lines when things are moving... http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/tv_720x480grab08885.jpg |
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| 05:25:12 | Zoomber | hmm |
| 05:25:14 | Zoomber | ok |
| 05:25:19 | Zoomber | well the picture is cool;\ |
| 05:28:07 | Zoomber | raptor: an idea of mine now is to just run windows xp through my second monitor, instead of using it for mac |
| 05:29:28 | Zoomber | oh i guess he's gone |
| 05:29:33 | Zoomber | not sure how to fix the lag it gives when i host it |
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| 15:32:15 | Heyub | I sometimes wonder if cleverbot replies before reading the entire post. lol |
| 15:32:24 | raptor | he totally does |
| 15:32:49 | raptor | his gift is in appearing clever at first glance |
| 15:33:05 | raptor | falls apart second glance... |
| 15:33:23 | Heyub | lol |
| 15:35:12 | raptor | time to slice the thread up... i guess |
| 15:44:35 | raptor | i ruthlessly deleted the 'meta' discussion posts |
| 15:44:47 | raptor | i should have put them in the trash bin... i keep forgetting we have one |
| 15:45:57 | Heyub | I've been to stricter forums, to be honest. |
| 15:46:55 | raptor | i've never actually given out punishments (like moderated posts <-- that's a fun one I hear) |
| 15:47:02 | raptor | i just delete and move on |
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| 15:48:15 | Heyub | Sorry, pressed the wrong hotkey. |
| 15:55:21 | raptor | I wonder if there is a way for me to crash the extra two 'Supernova' servers cluttering our server list... |
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| 17:43:17 | Heyub | Has it ever been considered to add more to the background? (nebulas, planets, suns, greater variety of stars) |
| 17:43:31 | raptor | interesting idea |
| 17:43:52 | raptor | i have thought of it, but not discussed it with anyone |
| 17:44:21 | raptor | most of my inspiration comes from the game naev (see: http://naev.org) |
| 17:44:36 | raptor | oooo |
| 17:44:56 | raptor | loads of high school players online |
| 17:45:15 | raptor | my favorite name this time: (_(crayola(_(> |
| 17:45:40 | Heyub | I've played naev, heard you and watu talking about it awhile ago. |
| 17:51:40 | raptor | it a very visually appealing game when flying around |
| 17:52:04 | raptor | not sure how that would fit with bitfighter though - we kind of like to stay with the vector graphics/retro feel |
| 17:52:27 | raptor | maybe a wireframe planet or sun in the background? :) |
| 17:52:28 | Heyub | Yeah, come to think of it, it would be kind of odd to see a realistic looking planet in zap. |
| 17:53:24 | Heyub | The wireframe planet could be cool |
| 17:55:01 | raptor | something here maybe?: https://www.google.com/search?q=wireframe+planet&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch |
| 17:56:39 | Heyub | Very possible, you might want it to be a different color than blue so it isnt mistaken for walls. |
| 18:03:57 | Heyub | Hmm... |
| 18:13:21 | raptor | did you know you can make the stars less parallaxy? |
| 18:13:28 | raptor | there's an option in the INI |
| 18:14:13 | Heyub | I didn't know that, good to know. |
| 18:27:50 | Heyub | What would you think of something like this for a sun? http://box.com/s/0ab641c04c99fb44a73d |
| 18:29:51 | raptor | are you thinking of the wireframe of that shape? something solid like that may seem out of place... |
| 18:35:23 | Heyub | I was thinking adding a little transparancy, but I could make it wireframe. |
| 18:35:45 | raptor | oh, you made it? |
| 18:35:47 | raptor | neat! |
| 18:37:21 | Heyub | lol Only took a minute to do |
| 18:38:06 | raptor | i think we should discuss the extra background objects with watusimoto before we actually do to much work |
| 18:38:15 | raptor | !watusimoto |
| 18:38:15 | BFLogBot | Supreme Overlord |
| 18:38:31 | Heyub | lol ok |
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| 21:58:54 | raptor | hi Renderwahn |
| 21:58:58 | raptor | welcome to #bitfighter |
| 21:59:54 | Heyub | Hello! |
| 22:08:15 | raptor | hi |
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