#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-05-03

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00:01:00 sam686 no, gridDatabase is to hold all those objects in a game
00:01:48 sam686 MoveObject::move  (loveObject.cpp line 267) is the moving object function that does some of physics calculation
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01:44:18 sam686 hi
01:44:33 Heyub|2 Hello
01:45:11 Opti_ hmm
01:45:22 Opti_ mollie_girl is supposed to be here
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02:43:19 IAmBeard alright, i'm heading to bed
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02:49:32 Heyub|2 The cake is a lie.
02:56:36 raptor mmmm  cake
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04:08:39 raptor sam686: do you have any experience with openVPN?
04:10:34 sam686 i have no idea what openVPN is  (maybe a little)  and never used it..
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05:02:34 raptor ok, i should do something...
05:02:48 raptor actually it's already 11..
05:02:55 sam686 you can do this: sleep
05:03:00 raptor haha, ok
05:03:03 raptor good night!
05:03:06 sam686 night
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15:16:32 raptor good day!
15:42:18 IAmBeard g'morning
15:42:25 IAmBeard well, almost noon now I guess
16:28:21 IAmBeard raptor / watusimoto http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1469
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16:38:24 Heyub Reminds me of maps on the Q3 engine.
16:39:09 raptor IAmBeard: it isn't impossible to add anything we want to the level format
16:39:40 IAmBeard but, scripting would be awkward, and adding image/sounds would be nearly impossible
16:39:45 IAmBeard at least in plaintext
16:39:53 raptor yes, media resources are impossible
16:40:00 raptor but other settings - no problem
16:40:50 IAmBeard other settings could definitely be added in, like defining textures, and possibly some sound effect stuff
16:40:59 raptor we don't use textures
16:41:04 raptor vector graphics!
16:41:19 raptor sound stuff, though...
16:41:27 raptor let me find the old thread that you should read...
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16:46:28 raptor argh i can't find the old threads that talked about level packs
16:50:15 Heyub Whats the advantage of vector graphics?  Less memory?  Or is it jost a novelty thing :)
16:50:34 raptor it's the chosen flavor
16:50:38 raptor (novelty)
16:50:56 raptor probably has memory advantages
16:51:24 Heyub Yeah, some pictures I make can be up to 5mb
16:52:23 raptor ok, i'm re-indexing the search...
16:52:56 raptor because i hate the 'too common words' setting
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16:54:35 raptor yay, better searching
16:54:56 raptor IAmBeard: here is one of them:   http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=369&p=2668
16:55:04 raptor wait
16:55:08 raptor no it's not...
16:55:20 raptor bah!
16:56:48 IAmBeard http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=438&p=3191&hilit=pack#p3187
16:57:01 raptor i am so blind
16:57:15 raptor yes, that's it
16:57:54 IAmBeard :P
16:59:05 IAmBeard the levelpack directive would be a super good idea
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17:08:50 raptor i need a knew online pseudonym...
17:08:59 raptor 'raptor'  is already taken in most things
17:09:09 raptor and on most websites
17:10:21 Watusimoto hi
17:10:41 raptor if we want level packs:  we'd have to do client-side level caching as per wontfix issue:  http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=32
17:10:48 raptor hi Watusimoto
17:10:52 Watusimoto tonight we will learn if luaWrapper inheritance works as desired
17:11:14 raptor oh boy oh boy
17:11:36 Watusimoto I'm pretty sure it does, which will make the code clearer and more maintainable
17:11:55 Watusimoto why would ne need caching with level packs?
17:12:30 raptor if level packs were to contain resources like music/soundeffects
17:12:47 raptor we'd need a way for the server to transmit the resources and have the client cache them
17:12:55 Watusimoto If we go that route, we lose the "modularity" of having one script usable in several levels
17:13:01 raptor yep
17:13:12 IAmBeard well, not necessarily
17:13:22 raptor just continuing a topic that IAmBeard brought up
17:13:32 Watusimoto yes
17:13:38 Watusimoto it started lastnight at bedtime
17:13:38 IAmBeard level packs could reference "default" scripts
17:13:53 IAmBeard that thus wouldn't even have to be included in the pack
17:13:58 Watusimoto or maybe scripts that aren't in the levelpack
17:14:22 raptor sooo...  is it sad that preprocessor macros work better than templates?
17:14:24 Watusimoto I would like to find a way to combine levels and levelgen code into a single file
17:14:27 raptor i think it's sad
17:14:35 Watusimoto is it true?
17:14:39 IAmBeard we could add a function like find_level_script( "scriptname.lua", "some author", "some.version" )
17:14:55 IAmBeard goes through default scripts, plus searches cached from the server
17:15:07 Watusimoto we already have a find function that works off of filename only
17:15:21 Watusimoto we'd need a way to tag resources
17:15:27 IAmBeard the only reason i suggest adding author and version is to avoid conflicts
17:15:32 Watusimoto of course
17:15:44 Watusimoto you could jam all that into a filename
17:16:03 Watusimoto mazegen_01_watusimoto.lua
17:16:08 Watusimoto or something
17:16:18 Watusimoto filenames are nice because you don't need to read the files themselves
17:16:21 IAmBeard it's true, but then we'd have to rely on the person making the script to know the file name format
17:16:31 IAmBeard but it's not a bad idea
17:16:46 Watusimoto they'd have to know the tagging format in any event
17:16:56 Watusimoto whether inside or outside the file
17:17:09 IAmBeard but we could force it through API in the script, where it's a little harder to police it in filenames
17:17:23 Watusimoto but the naming convention could just be convnetion, and all we care about is that the name is unique
17:18:32 IAmBeard so it may be worth-while to add some sort of lua script importer in the game and you give it the script name, author and version, and it automatically validates it
17:18:38 IAmBeard and renames it appropriately
17:18:59 Watusimoto that might work
17:19:19 raptor q
17:19:22 raptor oop
17:19:44 sam686 back to the "q" problem like back in the linux GLUT days?
17:20:16 sam686 as in, pressing shift types "q", a problem raptor had in GLUT
17:21:13 raptor oh yeah...  haha
17:21:36 raptor Watusimoto: combo:  http://pastie.org/3854869
17:21:45 raptor we'd just need to add another GOTO!  :)
17:22:20 raptor we keep getting closer and closer to creating our own markup language...
17:22:32 sam686 maybe combining level and scripts together in text file might allow /getmap and uploading level with scripts..
17:22:50 raptor yes - and allow instant crashing of Bitfighter sam686 server  :)
17:22:58 raptor oooo, exploits that would be possible...
17:24:52 sam686 as as for my "bitfighter sam686" i sort of need to take some time fixing that server (mostly moving to different server, one of zoomber's old server (and company) is gone)
17:26:37 sam686 i will need to go, see you later
17:27:39 raptor bye
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17:28:26 Watusimoto bye
17:28:31 Watusimoto we could do it with perl -x
17:28:37 Watusimoto if only lua had the option!
17:30:50 IAmBeard as a note, with the batch of my changes, I may write a lexer to deal with our map parsing, which may work out well for us down the road
17:31:01 IAmBeard anywho, my dog needs to poop
17:31:50 raptor Watusimoto: found the reverse:  http://lua-users.org/wiki/InlineCee
17:36:05 Watusimoto interesting.... throw in some pointers, and you're off and running on the user's machine!
18:00:42 Watusimoto first tests are positive
18:00:49 raptor i think amgine acurately pulled out all the problems with s_bot...
18:01:02 Watusimoto yes
18:01:02 raptor tests?
18:01:15 Watusimoto of luaw inheritance
18:01:24 Watusimoto I think this is going to work
18:01:59 Watusimoto so we'll have inheritance, and a partially automated proxy system that doesn't require extra classes
18:02:10 Watusimoto those are pretty close to my wish list
18:02:11 raptor yay!
18:02:39 raptor will we need to add the three macros for each class we want to Lua-ize?
18:02:53 raptor and that's it?
18:02:54 Watusimoto yes, i think so
18:03:08 Watusimoto lua code, and a list of methods
18:03:23 Watusimoto if the class uses only inherited methods (like testitem), that will be an empty list
18:03:34 Watusimoto maybe I can simplify that requirement a little
18:03:42 Watusimoto by providing a default empty list or something
18:04:22 Watusimoto still looking for ways to simplify the implementatino further
18:04:47 Watusimoto and we have a totally different use case yet to be tested that won't need proxies
18:05:03 Watusimoto we'll see if they interfere or are just a little overhead
18:05:47 raptor which use case?
18:05:59 Watusimoto I also want to go through s_bot and create c functionality for as many parts as we can
18:06:13 Watusimoto especially those that pass lots of objects back to lua
18:06:22 Watusimoto (like the find functions)
18:06:24 raptor yes - i recently went through s_bot - there is some hefty stuff in there
18:06:41 Watusimoto the lua case is the menu creation for editor plugins
18:07:15 Watusimoto well, and anything at all in the editor, really
18:07:46 Watusimoto also want to test luaW's constructor system -- would be nice to create new items from scratch using OO techniques in the editor
18:07:53 Watusimoto without creating levelcode
18:08:13 Watusimoto we'll probably want that with triggers and such
18:08:16 raptor explain 'new items'
18:08:23 raptor oh, spontaneous walls
18:08:35 raptor ok
18:08:37 Watusimoto I foresee replacing asteroid spawns with scripted objects
18:08:39 Watusimoto so yes
18:09:34 Watusimoto maaaybe the editor can create items with an associated blob of lua code
18:10:14 Watusimoto like you place an asteroid spawn, and it creates a marker and inserts an onTimer() event in the level file
18:10:23 Watusimoto that you can go tweak manually if you like
18:10:29 raptor interesting
18:10:36 raptor that's several layers deep...
18:10:40 Watusimoto yes
18:11:08 Watusimoto not doing that tonight!
18:11:41 Watusimoto but then we can add new items to the editor that are essentially prescripted event handlers
18:12:10 Watusimoto to spare the youngus the horrors of coding
18:12:29 raptor haha
18:12:57 Watusimoto but there are lots of bridges to cross before that one
18:13:22 Watusimoto if we fully convert to luaW and are rid of lunar, I'll be happy
18:13:29 raptor bridges to build
18:13:38 Watusimoto or burn
18:14:17 Watusimoto going to make dinner; I'll leave you with this (almost) working snippet:
18:14:18 Watusimoto //// Lua Interface
18:14:20 Watusimoto static S32 isInCaptureZoneWrapper(lua_State *L) { return luaW_doMethod<ResourceItem>(&ResourceItem::isInCaptureZone, L); }
18:14:20 Watusimoto static S32 isOnShipWrapper(lua_State *L)        { return luaW_doMethod<ResourceItem>(&ResourceItem::isOnShip,        L); }
18:14:20 Watusimoto static S32 getShipWrapper(lua_State *L)         { return luaW_doMethod<ResourceItem>(&ResourceItem::getShip,         L); }
18:14:20 Watusimoto / Inherits all MoveItem methods, and has a few of its own
18:14:20 Watusimoto const luaL_reg ResourceItem::luaMethods[] =
18:14:22 Watusimoto {
18:14:24 Watusimoto    { "isInCaptureZone", isInCaptureZoneWrapper },
18:14:26 Watusimoto    { "isOnShip",        isOnShipWrapper },
18:14:28 Watusimoto    { "getShip",         getShipWrapper },
18:14:31 Watusimoto    { NULL, NULL }
18:14:33 Watusimoto };
18:15:04 Watusimoto defines 3 resource item methods, and handles all proxying issues and returns the result of the appropriate method variable
18:15:32 Watusimoto may be able to prettify that a little more
18:15:42 raptor not a boolean?
18:15:48 Watusimoto ??
18:15:57 raptor S32  isInCapture...
18:16:13 Watusimoto it's a boolean, but returns the number of items placed on the stack for lua to read
18:16:22 Watusimoto in this case will put the boolean on the stack and return 1
18:16:45 raptor ohh...  ok
18:16:52 raptor so you'd call that from the script
18:16:55 raptor ok
18:16:56 Watusimoto just how lua works
18:16:57 raptor makes sense
18:17:07 raptor i was looking at it backwards..
18:17:18 Watusimoto lua unwinds that and puts it in variables in the script as you would expect
18:19:18 raptor so what did you think of my sentinel bot?
18:19:25 raptor oh wait...  dinner, nevermind
18:19:38 raptor i thing we need to put orbiting code in c++
18:19:56 raptor Robot::orbit(Point point)
18:20:50 raptor and lunch for me!
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19:03:31 BlackBird_ helloooooo
19:03:40 raptor howdy
19:04:05 BlackBird_ greetings and felicitations
19:08:22 raptor oooo  big word
19:09:04 BlackBird_ hip-hip hoorah
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20:02:26 raptor Watusimoto: idea
20:02:45 raptor should we give dedicated servers the option to disallow 'punch-through' connections?
20:11:44 raptor or does a password protect against that enough?
20:18:22 Watusimoto what woudl the point of that be?
20:21:16 BFLogBot - Commit e81d28b699b0 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: One possible solution to reduce duplicate code
20:21:17 BFLogBot - Commit 1f45fbfb3ab8 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Inheritance working with LuaW, all classis in MoveObject are now wrapped
20:21:19 BFLogBot - Commit 1ea6b549f409 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: mmm... not sure exactly.
20:34:25 raptor exactly - i was just thinking that i'd want to keep me out of a private LAN game (because I just joined one)
20:34:31 raptor but that is what a password is for...
20:38:58 raptor well, it still compiles..
20:42:46 Watusimoto yes -- no reason
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21:06:15 Watusimoto ok, tried a couple of optimizations that didn't quite work
21:06:22 Watusimoto will press on in the morning
21:06:27 BFLogBot - Commit e4761773ef09 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Rename constants
21:06:28 BFLogBot - Commit 49e6a8b9e224 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: I know I made this change recently... here goes again... no script caching in test mode
21:06:47 Watusimoto good night
21:06:52 raptor night
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00:01:00	sam686	no, gridDatabase is to hold all those objects in a game
00:01:48	sam686	MoveObject::move (loveObject.cpp line 267) is the moving object function that does some of physics calculation
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01:44:14	Opti_	hello
01:44:18	sam686	hi
01:44:33	Heyub\|2	Hello
01:45:11	Opti_	hmm
01:45:22	Opti_	mollie_girl is supposed to be here
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02:43:19	IAmBeard	alright, i'm heading to bed
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02:49:32	Heyub\|2	The cake is a lie.
02:56:36	raptor	mmmm cake
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04:08:39	raptor	sam686: do you have any experience with openVPN?
04:10:34	sam686	i have no idea what openVPN is (maybe a little) and never used it..
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05:02:34	raptor	ok, i should do something...
05:02:48	raptor	actually it's already 11..
05:02:55	sam686	you can do this: sleep
05:03:00	raptor	haha, ok
05:03:03	raptor	good night!
05:03:06	sam686	night
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15:16:32	raptor	good day!
15:42:18	IAmBeard	g'morning
15:42:25	IAmBeard	well, almost noon now I guess
16:28:21	IAmBeard	raptor / watusimoto http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1469
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16:38:24	Heyub	Reminds me of maps on the Q3 engine.
16:39:09	raptor	IAmBeard: it isn't impossible to add anything we want to the level format
16:39:40	IAmBeard	but, scripting would be awkward, and adding image/sounds would be nearly impossible
16:39:45	IAmBeard	at least in plaintext
16:39:53	raptor	yes, media resources are impossible
16:40:00	raptor	but other settings - no problem
16:40:50	IAmBeard	other settings could definitely be added in, like defining textures, and possibly some sound effect stuff
16:40:59	raptor	we don't use textures
16:41:04	raptor	vector graphics!
16:41:19	raptor	sound stuff, though...
16:41:27	raptor	let me find the old thread that you should read...
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16:46:28	raptor	argh i can't find the old threads that talked about level packs
16:50:15	Heyub	Whats the advantage of vector graphics? Less memory? Or is it jost a novelty thing :)
16:50:34	raptor	it's the chosen flavor
16:50:38	raptor	(novelty)
16:50:56	raptor	probably has memory advantages
16:51:24	Heyub	Yeah, some pictures I make can be up to 5mb
16:52:23	raptor	ok, i'm re-indexing the search...
16:52:56	raptor	because i hate the 'too common words' setting
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16:54:35	raptor	yay, better searching
16:54:56	raptor	IAmBeard: here is one of them: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=369&p=2668
16:55:04	raptor	wait
16:55:08	raptor	no it's not...
16:55:20	raptor	bah!
16:56:48	IAmBeard	http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=438&p=3191&hilit=pack#p3187
16:57:01	raptor	i am so blind
16:57:15	raptor	yes, that's it
16:57:54	IAmBeard	:P
16:59:05	IAmBeard	the levelpack directive would be a super good idea
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17:08:50	raptor	i need a knew online pseudonym...
17:08:59	raptor	'raptor' is already taken in most things
17:09:09	raptor	and on most websites
17:10:21	Watusimoto	hi
17:10:41	raptor	if we want level packs: we'd have to do client-side level caching as per wontfix issue: http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/detail?id=32
17:10:48	raptor	hi Watusimoto
17:10:52	Watusimoto	tonight we will learn if luaWrapper inheritance works as desired
17:11:14	raptor	oh boy oh boy
17:11:36	Watusimoto	I'm pretty sure it does, which will make the code clearer and more maintainable
17:11:55	Watusimoto	why would ne need caching with level packs?
17:12:30	raptor	if level packs were to contain resources like music/soundeffects
17:12:47	raptor	we'd need a way for the server to transmit the resources and have the client cache them
17:12:55	Watusimoto	If we go that route, we lose the "modularity" of having one script usable in several levels
17:13:01	raptor	yep
17:13:12	IAmBeard	well, not necessarily
17:13:22	raptor	just continuing a topic that IAmBeard brought up
17:13:32	Watusimoto	yes
17:13:38	Watusimoto	it started lastnight at bedtime
17:13:38	IAmBeard	level packs could reference "default" scripts
17:13:53	IAmBeard	that thus wouldn't even have to be included in the pack
17:13:58	Watusimoto	or maybe scripts that aren't in the levelpack
17:14:22	raptor	sooo... is it sad that preprocessor macros work better than templates?
17:14:24	Watusimoto	I would like to find a way to combine levels and levelgen code into a single file
17:14:27	raptor	i think it's sad
17:14:35	Watusimoto	is it true?
17:14:39	IAmBeard	we could add a function like find_level_script( "scriptname.lua", "some author", "some.version" )
17:14:55	IAmBeard	goes through default scripts, plus searches cached from the server
17:15:07	Watusimoto	we already have a find function that works off of filename only
17:15:21	Watusimoto	we'd need a way to tag resources
17:15:27	IAmBeard	the only reason i suggest adding author and version is to avoid conflicts
17:15:32	Watusimoto	of course
17:15:44	Watusimoto	you could jam all that into a filename
17:16:03	Watusimoto	mazegen_01_watusimoto.lua
17:16:08	Watusimoto	or something
17:16:18	Watusimoto	filenames are nice because you don't need to read the files themselves
17:16:21	IAmBeard	it's true, but then we'd have to rely on the person making the script to know the file name format
17:16:31	IAmBeard	but it's not a bad idea
17:16:46	Watusimoto	they'd have to know the tagging format in any event
17:16:56	Watusimoto	whether inside or outside the file
17:17:09	IAmBeard	but we could force it through API in the script, where it's a little harder to police it in filenames
17:17:23	Watusimoto	but the naming convention could just be convnetion, and all we care about is that the name is unique
17:18:32	IAmBeard	so it may be worth-while to add some sort of lua script importer in the game and you give it the script name, author and version, and it automatically validates it
17:18:38	IAmBeard	and renames it appropriately
17:18:59	Watusimoto	that might work
17:19:19	raptor	q
17:19:22	raptor	oop
17:19:44	sam686	back to the "q" problem like back in the linux GLUT days?
17:20:16	sam686	as in, pressing shift types "q", a problem raptor had in GLUT
17:21:13	raptor	oh yeah... haha
17:21:36	raptor	Watusimoto: combo: http://pastie.org/3854869
17:21:45	raptor	we'd just need to add another GOTO! :)
17:22:20	raptor	we keep getting closer and closer to creating our own markup language...
17:22:32	sam686	maybe combining level and scripts together in text file might allow /getmap and uploading level with scripts..
17:22:50	raptor	yes - and allow instant crashing of Bitfighter sam686 server :)
17:22:58	raptor	oooo, exploits that would be possible...
17:24:52	sam686	as as for my "bitfighter sam686" i sort of need to take some time fixing that server (mostly moving to different server, one of zoomber's old server (and company) is gone)
17:26:37	sam686	i will need to go, see you later
17:27:39	raptor	bye
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17:28:26	Watusimoto	bye
17:28:31	Watusimoto	we could do it with perl -x
17:28:37	Watusimoto	if only lua had the option!
17:30:50	IAmBeard	as a note, with the batch of my changes, I may write a lexer to deal with our map parsing, which may work out well for us down the road
17:31:01	IAmBeard	anywho, my dog needs to poop
17:31:50	raptor	Watusimoto: found the reverse: http://lua-users.org/wiki/InlineCee
17:36:05	Watusimoto	interesting.... throw in some pointers, and you're off and running on the user's machine!
18:00:42	Watusimoto	first tests are positive
18:00:49	raptor	i think amgine acurately pulled out all the problems with s_bot...
18:01:02	Watusimoto	yes
18:01:02	raptor	tests?
18:01:15	Watusimoto	of luaw inheritance
18:01:24	Watusimoto	I think this is going to work
18:01:59	Watusimoto	so we'll have inheritance, and a partially automated proxy system that doesn't require extra classes
18:02:10	Watusimoto	those are pretty close to my wish list
18:02:11	raptor	yay!
18:02:39	raptor	will we need to add the three macros for each class we want to Lua-ize?
18:02:53	raptor	and that's it?
18:02:54	Watusimoto	yes, i think so
18:03:08	Watusimoto	lua code, and a list of methods
18:03:23	Watusimoto	if the class uses only inherited methods (like testitem), that will be an empty list
18:03:34	Watusimoto	maybe I can simplify that requirement a little
18:03:42	Watusimoto	by providing a default empty list or something
18:04:22	Watusimoto	still looking for ways to simplify the implementatino further
18:04:47	Watusimoto	and we have a totally different use case yet to be tested that won't need proxies
18:05:03	Watusimoto	we'll see if they interfere or are just a little overhead
18:05:47	raptor	which use case?
18:05:59	Watusimoto	I also want to go through s_bot and create c functionality for as many parts as we can
18:06:13	Watusimoto	especially those that pass lots of objects back to lua
18:06:22	Watusimoto	(like the find functions)
18:06:24	raptor	yes - i recently went through s_bot - there is some hefty stuff in there
18:06:41	Watusimoto	the lua case is the menu creation for editor plugins
18:07:15	Watusimoto	well, and anything at all in the editor, really
18:07:46	Watusimoto	also want to test luaW's constructor system -- would be nice to create new items from scratch using OO techniques in the editor
18:07:53	Watusimoto	without creating levelcode
18:08:13	Watusimoto	we'll probably want that with triggers and such
18:08:16	raptor	explain 'new items'
18:08:23	raptor	oh, spontaneous walls
18:08:35	raptor	ok
18:08:37	Watusimoto	I foresee replacing asteroid spawns with scripted objects
18:08:39	Watusimoto	so yes
18:09:34	Watusimoto	maaaybe the editor can create items with an associated blob of lua code
18:10:14	Watusimoto	like you place an asteroid spawn, and it creates a marker and inserts an onTimer() event in the level file
18:10:23	Watusimoto	that you can go tweak manually if you like
18:10:29	raptor	interesting
18:10:36	raptor	that's several layers deep...
18:10:40	Watusimoto	yes
18:11:08	Watusimoto	not doing that tonight!
18:11:41	Watusimoto	but then we can add new items to the editor that are essentially prescripted event handlers
18:12:10	Watusimoto	to spare the youngus the horrors of coding
18:12:29	raptor	haha
18:12:57	Watusimoto	but there are lots of bridges to cross before that one
18:13:22	Watusimoto	if we fully convert to luaW and are rid of lunar, I'll be happy
18:13:29	raptor	bridges to build
18:13:38	Watusimoto	or burn
18:14:17	Watusimoto	going to make dinner; I'll leave you with this (almost) working snippet:
18:14:18	Watusimoto	//// Lua Interface
18:14:20	Watusimoto	static S32 isInCaptureZoneWrapper(lua_State *L) { return luaW_doMethod<ResourceItem>(&ResourceItem::isInCaptureZone, L); }
18:14:20	Watusimoto	static S32 isOnShipWrapper(lua_State *L) { return luaW_doMethod<ResourceItem>(&ResourceItem::isOnShip, L); }
18:14:20	Watusimoto	static S32 getShipWrapper(lua_State *L) { return luaW_doMethod<ResourceItem>(&ResourceItem::getShip, L); }
18:14:20	Watusimoto	/ Inherits all MoveItem methods, and has a few of its own
18:14:20	Watusimoto	const luaL_reg ResourceItem::luaMethods[] =
18:14:22	Watusimoto	{
18:14:24	Watusimoto	{ "isInCaptureZone", isInCaptureZoneWrapper },
18:14:26	Watusimoto	{ "isOnShip", isOnShipWrapper },
18:14:28	Watusimoto	{ "getShip", getShipWrapper },
18:14:31	Watusimoto	{ NULL, NULL }
18:14:33	Watusimoto	};
18:15:04	Watusimoto	defines 3 resource item methods, and handles all proxying issues and returns the result of the appropriate method variable
18:15:32	Watusimoto	may be able to prettify that a little more
18:15:42	raptor	not a boolean?
18:15:48	Watusimoto	??
18:15:57	raptor	S32 isInCapture...
18:16:13	Watusimoto	it's a boolean, but returns the number of items placed on the stack for lua to read
18:16:22	Watusimoto	in this case will put the boolean on the stack and return 1
18:16:45	raptor	ohh... ok
18:16:52	raptor	so you'd call that from the script
18:16:55	raptor	ok
18:16:56	Watusimoto	just how lua works
18:16:57	raptor	makes sense
18:17:07	raptor	i was looking at it backwards..
18:17:18	Watusimoto	lua unwinds that and puts it in variables in the script as you would expect
18:19:18	raptor	so what did you think of my sentinel bot?
18:19:25	raptor	oh wait... dinner, nevermind
18:19:38	raptor	i thing we need to put orbiting code in c++
18:19:56	raptor	Robot::orbit(Point point)
18:20:50	raptor	and lunch for me!
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19:03:31	BlackBird_	helloooooo
19:03:40	raptor	howdy
19:04:05	BlackBird_	greetings and felicitations
19:08:22	raptor	oooo big word
19:09:04	BlackBird_	hip-hip hoorah
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20:02:26	raptor	Watusimoto: idea
20:02:45	raptor	should we give dedicated servers the option to disallow 'punch-through' connections?
20:11:44	raptor	or does a password protect against that enough?
20:18:22	Watusimoto	what woudl the point of that be?
20:21:16		BFLogBot - Commit e81d28b699b0 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: One possible solution to reduce duplicate code
20:21:17		BFLogBot - Commit 1f45fbfb3ab8 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Inheritance working with LuaW, all classis in MoveObject are now wrapped
20:21:19		BFLogBot - Commit 1ea6b549f409 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: mmm... not sure exactly.
20:34:25	raptor	exactly - i was just thinking that i'd want to keep me out of a private LAN game (because I just joined one)
20:34:31	raptor	but that is what a password is for...
20:38:58	raptor	well, it still compiles..
20:42:46	Watusimoto	yes -- no reason
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21:06:15	Watusimoto	ok, tried a couple of optimizations that didn't quite work
21:06:22	Watusimoto	will press on in the morning
21:06:27		BFLogBot - Commit e4761773ef09 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Rename constants
21:06:28		BFLogBot - Commit 49e6a8b9e224 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: I know I made this change recently... here goes again... no script caching in test mode
21:06:47	Watusimoto	good night
21:06:52	raptor	night
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