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IRC Log for 2012-06-11

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00:07:49BFLogBot - Commit 776e342df764 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Better method name for error logging
00:07:50BFLogBot - Commit 7a90788ceca9 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix luaW multiple inheritance registration issue
00:07:52BFLogBot - Commit 8e41e5bd09ce | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Modify Lua to return slightly less cryptic error message
00:07:53BFLogBot - Commit 0ad13019d827 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Add logprint command to console
00:07:55BFLogBot - Commit a9c528c70bea | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix bug with null string plaguing Eliza bot
00:07:56BFLogBot - Commit 95e588b78a64 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Eliza bot now working; s_bot appears to be working. Better error handling. Subscribe/unsubscribe now working.
00:07:58BFLogBot - Commit 290bd108ae57 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge
00:07:59BFLogBot - Commit d886514fb71c | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Revert wrapper to only supporting a single parent... read this to understand why: http://www.lua.org/notes/ltn008.html
00:08:01BFLogBot - Commit 5631403e7410 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clean up stack trace a little
00:08:02BFLogBot - Commit 9fc9e8738919 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Clean up stack trace a little more
00:08:04BFLogBot - Commit 2e16aad194e3 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove dead code
00:08:05BFLogBot - Commit 712fa48d37ce | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Levelgens can subscribe to events, almost; not quite working. But be sure to update your lua scripts folder with the latest copies
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14:26:14raptorgood day
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15:09:50raptorthis is hilarious: https://twitter.com/#!/stealthmountain
15:20:00watusimotowow
15:20:01watusimotohi
15:20:05raptorhi
15:20:12watusimotohow about one for "looses"?
15:20:33raptorhaha - i know i've committed that mistake... but not on twitter
15:20:52watusimotoI have a foolproof way for avoiding mistakes on twitter
15:20:56raptorme too!
15:21:03raptori bet it's the same one...
15:21:09watusimotoI'll bet it is
15:21:14watusimotothe only way to win is not to play
15:21:19raptorexactly!
15:22:29watusimotoI'm 98% sure I'll have (very basic) events working tonight
15:22:43raptorgreat
15:22:50raptorfor levelgens, you mean?
15:22:54watusimotoyes
15:23:01watusimotoexcept they're really more than levelgens now
15:23:09watusimotoif they stick around and do stuff during the game
15:23:37watusimotoI'm thinking of calling them LevelPals
15:23:41raptorsupervisor script... activate!
15:23:44raptorha
15:23:56watusimotomaybe LevelBuddies
15:24:04raptorLevelViruses
15:24:34watusimotoI think we should allow multiple LevelBuddies per level
15:24:52watusimototo make them more modular; you could write one that carries out a particluar behavior
15:25:01watusimotoand match it with another that does a different behavior
15:25:57watusimotoMaybe even find a way to embed them into level files, associated with particular objects to create tweakable asteroid spawns and such
15:26:03watusimotonot sure how it would work though
15:26:45raptorextending the .level file seems to be a topic we keep coming back to..
15:27:40watusimotoTestItem 1 3 code='function onShot(object, shooter) object:expolde() end'
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15:27:58raptorhaha
15:28:12watusimotolooks kind of clumsy
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15:28:19Little_Applehelloo
15:28:26raptorguten
15:28:26watusimotohi
15:28:35Little_Applei have a donut
15:29:15raptori bet you look like this: http://imgur.com/gallery/4mQsv
15:30:18Little_Applewith a little more hair… but yep.
15:31:54Little_Appledonut all gone. :c
15:38:48Little_Applei cant believe they think we think its butter!
15:50:29raptorwatusimoto: well, contest is over...
15:50:35raptori'm glad i didn't win :)
15:52:50raptorI suppose I should release the map-maker names
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15:54:27raptormaybe we should have a contest winner badge?
16:01:45Little_Appleeveryone loved my maps :D
16:01:55Little_Apple is sarcastic
16:02:38raptoryou were the top contributor...
16:03:21Little_Applelol
16:08:03raptorall right, should i post?
16:08:12raptorthe results
16:08:33Little_Applesure
16:09:21raptorthe deed is done
16:09:54Little_Apple:P
16:10:10raptornow you know who did 'green eggs and ham'
16:10:25Little_AppleYOU MADE BASTION
16:10:28raptor:)
16:10:44raptori'm glad i didn't win...
16:10:44Little_Applei liked that one :P
16:10:48Little_Applelol
16:11:29raptori tried to make it really a true 'storm the castle' in both the 'storm' and 'castle' senses
16:11:42raptorbecause with enough players.. it gets hard
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16:15:42Little_Applelagged out
16:17:09raptorso what did you think about the contest over all?
16:20:33Little_Appleit was pretty good
16:26:58watusimotothe contest!!!! I forgot to vote!
16:27:09raptorthat's ok, the winner won by two
16:27:17watusimotowhat won?
16:27:25raptor'Castle Fighters'
16:27:30watusimotoI see
16:27:32raptorresults: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1519
16:27:34watusimotoauthors have been revealed?
16:27:38raptoryes
16:27:50watusimotoyou did the italian fort one?
16:27:55raptor:)
16:28:00watusimotoand the arabic one?
16:28:03raptor:)
16:28:11watusimoto!
16:28:18watusimotobut no others
16:28:23raptornope
16:28:29watusimotoI voted for the fort
16:28:44raptori thought that one looked pretty good
16:28:48watusimotoit did
16:29:12raptorit played well (if you didn't hate engineer) and you had like 8 players
16:29:12watusimotowe've got to find a way to mianstream the svg tools -- all levels would look better
16:29:37Little_Applei knew it!
16:29:44Little_Applesam made picture frame :P
16:30:25raptorit's funny that I gave everyone my secret, and it's been downloaded only 3 times... 1 or 2 of them is me
16:30:39Little_Applewhat secret ._.
16:30:56raptorhttp://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=1177
16:31:05watusimotomaybe we can make it an editor plugin
16:31:13raptoralthough the arabic one was still difficult with the load-out zones
16:31:14Little_Appleoh that
16:31:23watusimotobut it's java...
16:31:30raptorevil, evil, jav
16:31:32raptora
16:31:33raptorjava
16:31:39watusimotobut maybe we could distribute the jar with bitfighter?
16:31:55watusimotoand somehow integrate it?
16:32:17raptorthe biggest request i've actually gotten was to allow the curvegen make more complex curves
16:33:50raptorif we implement that, i bet the next biggest request will be to have a preview window for the curves...
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16:34:09raptorand it'll never stop!
16:34:59raptorfor what it's worth, i haven't found an easy svg vector-to-path library in c++
16:35:08raptorwell, other than things like cairo
16:35:23Little_Apple wants a ship editor
16:35:38raptoror other enormously HUGE libraries with crazy dependencies
16:36:04Little_Apple wants a ship editor NAOU
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16:40:29watusimotowe could consider native curves...
16:40:38watusimotowell, anyway, heading home. back later
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16:42:13raptornative curves!
16:42:21raptorsomeone suggested that somewhere...
16:44:17Little_Apple still wants a ship editor
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16:53:49raptoractually, found a library!: http://www.levien.com/libart/
16:54:12raptorit's self-contained, written in C, and does all the math for curves to vectors, etc.
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18:18:52raptorWatusimoto: so now I should release the levels? I know one person already released a modified version of their level...
18:19:26raptoror should I let authors release if they wish
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18:42:22Little_Applehihihi
18:43:11raptorhi
18:44:25raptorLittle_Apple: did any of the map-makers suprise you?
18:44:42Little_Applei was surprised opti didnt make wub :P
18:45:53Little_Applei was kinda dissapointed with how unbalanced galactic parasites was
18:46:12raptordid you test it with bots?
18:46:16Little_Applealthough its kinda hard to test it by yourself :P
18:48:44Little_Appleim waiting for my unhealthy food tubes to cook.
18:48:45Watusimotorelease the kraken... er.. the levels
18:49:26Little_Applekraken level.
18:49:28raptorwould it be beneficial to allow map-makers to change them for the better? or maybe just release the levels as a downloadable zip?
18:49:40Little_Applenahhh
18:49:44raptorand let the designers release them separately in the levels forum
18:50:29Watusimotoyes
18:50:50Watusimotoyes, release them as is, and let the level designers release their mods
18:50:53Little_Applethats whay heyub did before the contest even ended .__.
18:50:59raptori gotta stop putting more than one idea in a line...
18:51:13Little_Applelol
18:51:23Watusimotowhat movie is that line from? "release the kraken!"
18:51:38Little_Applepirates of the carribean?
18:51:52Little_Appleits a pirate thing...
18:51:53raptor has no idea
18:51:56Little_Applelol
18:51:59Little_Appleill google it
18:52:27Little_Appleclash of the titans.
18:52:33Watusimotoyes, the 3D version
18:52:40Watusimotosaw the original
18:52:44Little_Apple:P
18:52:45Watusimotowon;'t be burned again
18:52:45raptornever saw it
18:52:54Little_Applesame
18:52:55raptor3d - better?
18:53:19Little_Applebetter than two d's
18:53:47Little_AppleMY FOOD TUBES!
18:53:48raptorserious question: was the 3D version better? because I've rarely found that the case with movies (even though I don't see them often...)
18:54:28Watusimotosurely not; though the bar was low
18:54:36Watusimotourban dictionary explains the term
18:56:39Watusimotohttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Release%20the%20Bird
18:56:42Watusimotosee def. 2
18:57:27raptorthat website...
18:57:47Little_Applethe first definition was interesting
18:58:11raptorsooo... zip file of all the levels, as is?
18:58:24Watusimotosure
18:58:29Watusimotosounds perfect
18:58:30Little_Appleyea, call them vintage levels.
19:00:31Little_Appleor noit.
19:00:36Little_AppleNOIT?
19:00:52Little_Apple is stupid. dont listen to him
19:02:29raptor is in the affirmative
19:06:16Little_Apple has finished his food tubes
19:07:31raptorwas this the first time we had a level that required robots?
19:07:37Little_AppleWatusimoto: did you get teh humble indie bundle V?
19:07:44Little_Applei think so raptor
19:07:45Watusimotono
19:07:52Little_Appleoh ok
19:08:27Little_Applethey're offering super meat boy now :o
19:09:27raptor says that all the levels are posted now
19:10:00raptor^^ he told me
19:10:31BFLogBot - Commit 19c6ad50d2b8 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Make to string a little mroe useful for vectors
19:10:32BFLogBot - Commit 739d5cb1ef39 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Formatting
19:10:34BFLogBot - Commit 6df179966af5 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Not sure why I did this... use local var to hold gServerGame
19:10:35BFLogBot - Commit f7b330288352 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: And again...
19:10:37BFLogBot - Commit 65403b4d80b7 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Chip away at remaining lunar classes; make levelgen event listeners work; move some code from Robot to ServerGame where it fits better
19:10:38BFLogBot - Commit 2dfdbf32a055 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Fix bug I reintroduced over the weekend during a bad merge
19:12:17raptorgoodbye contest server...
19:12:40Little_Appleawwww
19:15:51Little_Apple is bored.
19:16:05raptoryou think i should leave the contest server up?
19:17:02Little_Applenahhhhh
19:17:13Little_Appleits time has passed.
19:17:27Watusimototry the latest checkin with a levelgen with this code:
19:17:29Watusimotofunction main()
19:17:29Watusimoto subscribe(MsgReceivedEvent)
19:17:29Watusimotoend
19:17:29Watusimotofunction onMsgReceived(message, sender, global)
19:17:29Watusimoto local t = TestItem.new()
19:17:29Watusimoto t:setLoc(sender:getShip():getLoc())
19:17:32Watusimoto t:addToGame()
19:17:34Watusimotoend
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19:17:47raptorok
19:17:54Watusimotothe fire up the game and send a global chat msg
19:18:42Little_Applehuh?
19:19:51Little_Applewas ist das?
19:21:12Little_Apple dont get
19:22:13raptorok, compiled and now testing...
19:22:34raptorha!
19:22:53raptorinstant testItem creation in-game
19:23:08raptoroh the possibilities....
19:23:36raptorteam chat works, too - probably a bug
19:23:45Watusimotonot a bug
19:23:50raptoroh no wait
19:23:53raptori read the code wrong
19:23:53Watusimotofunction onMsgReceived(message, sender, global)
19:23:57raptoryeah
19:23:58raptorgok
19:24:00raptorgok
19:24:00Watusimotoyou can test global for that
19:24:01raptorok
19:24:05Watusimotook
19:24:41Watusimotoso not sure what all you can create yet
19:24:51Watusimotobut I want to create full on constructor methods for all game objects
19:25:02Watusimotoand destructors as well
19:25:11Watusimotoincluding being able to create and kick bots
19:25:42Watusimotoand of course, the traditional "levelcode method" still works
19:26:36Watusimotoso yeah... create more events, and things will just open up
19:26:52raptoroh man
19:27:04raptorthis has loads of potential!
19:27:13raptorespecially for dungeons...
19:27:23raptorwhich, come to think of it, i haven't seen around much lately
19:29:16raptorWatusimoto: i notice that trying to create two items very quickly (like within 1 sec) via the global chat doesn't work
19:29:54Watusimotohm
19:30:04Watusimotono reason it shouldn't
19:30:41raptorha
19:30:53raptorok, it only doesn't work if you type the same text each time
19:31:10raptorso i used 'g' as a message to my self
19:32:27raptori was just thinking... we could make a troll bot
19:33:00raptora hybrid of my sentinel bot that you sick on a specific player who is being really noisy
19:33:11raptorwhen they type, it comes and kills them
19:37:41Watusimotoa hint at the dark side
19:37:42Watusimotohttp://pastie.org/4069314
19:38:47raptorhahaha
19:39:03raptorif only i had reliable screen capture software on linux...
19:39:38Watusimotopoor little apple
19:40:32Little_Applewat?
19:40:47Watusimotocan't see all the craziness I've unleashed
19:40:55Little_Appleis there something i should know?
19:41:21Watusimotono -- just created a level that launches test items every second
19:41:39Little_Apple:O
19:41:49Little_Apple must see it.
19:42:31Watusimotonow I have them going 10x as fast, 10 times per second
19:42:37Watusimototrying to overflow the system
19:43:11Watusimotofps crawling downwards
19:43:40Little_AppleSTOP TORTURING MEEEEEEEE
19:45:51Watusimotobf is clearly not built for huge object sets
19:46:08Watusimotoless than 50 fps with fewer than 500 test items
19:46:35Little_Applelol
19:46:46Watusimoto14 fps at 1000 objects
19:47:07Little_Appleyou should see minecraft :P
19:47:49Watusimoto6.6 fps woth 1600 objects
19:48:07raptorlots of logprint with luaproxy
19:48:15raptorDeleting LuaProxy
19:48:25Watusimotowe can get rid of that, probably
19:49:06Watusimoto200o objects 3.9 fps
19:49:37Watusimotoenough of that
19:49:44Watusimotomoral of the story -- quality, not quantity
19:50:22raptorhaha
19:52:17Little_Applehey raptor , i heard you liked orchestrated music. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOUsbtUrXHk
19:52:51raptorhhahaha
19:53:05Little_Apple:D
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19:56:21Little_Appleraptor
19:56:28Little_Applehere you go! http://www.yourepeat.com/watch/?&v=sOUsbtUrXHk
20:40:25Little_Applelaaaaters
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21:29:14Watusimotohey sam686
21:29:25raptorohmygoodnessallthreeofusarehere
21:29:30sam686?
21:29:41Watusimotoin the latest build, levelgens can subscribe to events and respond during the game
21:29:52Watusimotocreating (and soon) deleting objects
21:29:57Watusimotoand whatnot
21:45:38sam686one bug, can't chat in game lobby in current latest version...;
21:55:22raptoraaach
21:55:25raptormust go...
21:55:32raptorcan't chat in game lobby either...
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23:40:27Topic is 'Bitfighter 017b released!: http://bitfighter.org/downloads'
23:40:27Set by raptor!~raptor@unaffiliated/greenmachine on Sat May 19 14:29:42 GMT 2012
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23:55:38BFLogBot - Commit 3084cd756f3b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Goal zone ported to luaW
23:56:36Little_Applehelloo?
23:56:53raptorso does random want the old account to be deleted?
23:57:20Little_Appleyou'd have to ask her
23:57:47Little_Applei looked at _k's last words...
23:57:54raptorin irc?
23:57:57raptorooo dinner!
23:58:00Little_Appleyep
23:58:05Little_Applehe said...
23:58:17Little_Apple"I'm going away for a while"
23:58:23Little_Applethats it.

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