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| 00:00:09 | Little_Apple | _K!! Y U NO COME BACK |
| 00:05:32 | raptor | yeah... somewhat anticlimactic |
| 00:06:34 | raptor | Zone object!! |
| 00:06:47 | raptor | i better hold off on my new robot methods... |
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| 00:12:36 | Little_Apple | how long is "a while"? |
| 00:12:49 | raptor | i thought it was for a few days at first.. |
| 00:13:52 | Little_Apple | .__. |
| 00:13:56 | Little_Apple | months? D: |
| 00:14:40 | raptor | i know he started a business |
| 00:14:53 | raptor | so he's probably trying to invest all his time into it |
| 00:23:26 | Little_Apple | :T |
| 00:30:38 | Little_Apple | watchin a moooovieeeee |
| 00:30:43 | | BFLogBot - Commit 18d9e0fd7891 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Update Makefile with Zone class |
| 00:30:44 | raptor | which? |
| 00:30:57 | raptor | I think i |
| 00:31:03 | raptor | i'll keep mac broken for a while... |
| 00:32:37 | Little_Apple | the finaal cooouunnntdooowwwwn |
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| 00:54:44 | Little_Apple | moo |
| 00:56:53 | Little_Apple | sham wow! |
| 01:00:51 | raptor | ? |
| 01:02:12 | Little_Apple | hi |
| 01:02:15 | Little_Apple | im bored. |
| 01:10:54 | Little_Apple | laters |
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| 03:23:05 | raptor | sam686: i found the commit that broke the chat in game lobby |
| 03:23:21 | raptor | a5516d3d147a |
| 03:24:31 | raptor | https://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/source/detail?r=a5516d3d147a |
| 03:24:39 | raptor | except, i can't figure out why that breaks it... |
| 03:31:34 | | BFLogBot - Commit ecb6964630b4 | Author: sam8641 | Log: Remove some outdated code. |
| 03:37:27 | sam686 | looks like it might be a few revisions before a5516d3d147a i guess? |
| 03:37:37 | raptor | nope |
| 03:37:45 | raptor | it works just fine the revision right before it |
| 03:37:49 | sam686 | or not.. |
| 03:37:54 | raptor | which makes no sense to me... |
| 03:41:27 | sam686 | but a fullscreen (F5) chat works... |
| 03:41:34 | raptor | what!? |
| 03:46:54 | sam686 | oh its not the version number revision that breaks it, "can't chat in lobby" only happens if the server list is empty.. |
| 03:47:46 | raptor | weird |
| 03:48:04 | raptor | then that bug probably existed farther back, too |
| 03:48:39 | sam686 | probably yes (and probably need to disable connecting to master server while testing) |
| 03:53:11 | sam686 | well problem sure doesn't happen at all on "4321 (4e6f8ff18b0b) (tag: fixes-017)" |
| 03:53:22 | raptor | hmmm |
| 03:53:44 | raptor | probably happened with teh SDL2 onKeyDown refactors I had to do |
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| 07:11:18 | raptor | what am i still doing up!? |
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| 15:13:50 | raptor | today i'll try and fix that really bonkers problem of no chat in game lobby when there is no server |
| 15:14:44 | raptor | and good day! |
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| 16:54:26 | raptor | i think we need an /idle timer |
| 16:54:41 | raptor | something that keeps you idle for at least 5 seconds |
| 16:54:46 | raptor | if you use it |
| 16:54:50 | raptor | so it wouldn't be abused |
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| 17:46:23 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 18:02:26 | Little_Apple | cake? |
| 18:02:36 | raptor | is a lie |
| 18:17:41 | Little_Apple | ok |
| 18:17:55 | raptor | need lunch nom nom |
| 18:19:40 | Little_Apple | whatcha eatin? |
| 18:20:44 | raptor | gorp |
| 18:20:57 | Little_Apple | gorp? ok |
| 18:39:06 | raptor | mmmm gorp |
| 18:45:31 | Little_Apple | lol |
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| 19:53:27 | Little_Apple | helloo |
| 19:55:03 | raptor | h |
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| 20:01:00 | Little_Apple | yoyoyo whydoikeepdisconecting |
| 20:02:02 | | raptor must stop being distracted |
| 20:14:27 | Little_Apple | BE DISTRACTED |
| 20:14:32 | Little_Apple | I AM DISTRACTING YOU |
| 20:15:38 | raptor | go play stars! that'll occupy you for a while |
| 20:15:40 | raptor | :) |
| 20:26:01 | raptor | http://wiki.starsautohost.org/wiki/Get_Stars! |
| 20:43:43 | Little_Apple | you can buy real estate on the moon |
| 20:43:57 | raptor | i'm sure you can |
| 20:44:14 | raptor | i also have this bottle of snake oil i'd be willing to sell for the right price |
| 20:52:19 | Little_Apple | really? |
| 21:02:24 | Little_Apple | awesome |
| 21:06:02 | Little_Apple | will it cure bad breath? |
| 21:06:50 | raptor | it cures everything! |
| 21:18:34 | Watusimoto | so I have a recurring problem |
| 21:18:47 | raptor | you have to sleep every day? |
| 21:18:52 | Watusimoto | I occasionally need to communicate with someone who manages my bank accounts in the US |
| 21:18:53 | raptor | i have that, too |
| 21:18:58 | raptor | oh |
| 21:19:26 | Watusimoto | email is really the best way to do that except for the fact that it is totally unencrypted so I can't really discuss things |
| 21:19:43 | raptor | you can't force him to use your gpg key? :) |
| 21:19:57 | Watusimoto | she's a banker |
| 21:20:03 | raptor | *she |
| 21:20:15 | raptor | yeah, i guess i know the type |
| 21:20:17 | Watusimoto | the world needs an easy way to securely transmit messages |
| 21:20:25 | raptor | it's called OTR |
| 21:20:26 | Watusimoto | securely and conviently |
| 21:20:32 | Watusimoto | it's called fax |
| 21:20:43 | raptor | haha: security through obscurity |
| 21:21:07 | Watusimoto | yet it works |
| 21:21:12 | Watusimoto | otr wouldn't work for a bank |
| 21:21:22 | Watusimoto | they can't install stuff |
| 21:21:29 | raptor | i wonder if there is a public-key crypto protocol for fax... |
| 21:21:37 | Watusimoto | fax is secure |
| 21:21:51 | Watusimoto | ironically |
| 21:22:02 | Watusimoto | it's the only thing that's good about it |
| 21:22:17 | raptor | secure as in using cryptography? |
| 21:22:18 | Watusimoto | well, that and you can offload your scanning onto someone else :-) |
| 21:22:35 | Watusimoto | I think it's close to as secure |
| 21:22:43 | Watusimoto | if you consider key management issues |
| 21:23:10 | Watusimoto | unless your phone is tapped, it's as secure as a sealed letter |
| 21:23:10 | raptor | i'm pretty sure fax can be sniffed off the wire... |
| 21:23:20 | Watusimoto | if your phone is tapped. |
| 21:24:07 | raptor | i guess people don't run wireshark on the phone lines anymore... |
| 21:24:10 | raptor | :) |
| 21:25:10 | Watusimoto | for me, in this situation, key management is no problem. I wish there were a deployed way for me to send an encrypted message, that she could decrypt on her end. |
| 21:25:22 | raptor | yes, me too |
| 21:25:25 | raptor | e-mail is a joke |
| 21:25:42 | Watusimoto | pgp and all those systems fall apart at the key management level |
| 21:25:48 | Watusimoto | because that often is a problem |
| 21:25:54 | raptor | yep |
| 21:26:42 | Watusimoto | but I have a possible solution for that; I'm going to build a demo website soon to see if it really works. |
| 21:26:59 | Watusimoto | well, it will work, but to see if people think it is lame |
| 21:27:02 | raptor | there needs to be a way to in-real-time request the public key of the endpoint mail server |
| 21:27:04 | Watusimoto | or clever |
| 21:27:18 | raptor | but then that's at the server level instead of address level |
| 21:27:25 | Little_Apple | ppot |
| 21:27:30 | Little_Apple | wat. |
| 21:27:33 | Watusimoto | for banks, server level is probably good |
| 21:27:47 | raptor | you've heard of: https://crypto.cat/ |
| 21:27:54 | Watusimoto | if there is soemone else in the bank reading the email... well, then they can do plenty else. |
| 21:29:00 | Watusimoto | I've resorted to leaving files on an ftp server, but she can't get them from inside the bank's firewall |
| 21:29:17 | raptor | hahaha, ftp |
| 21:29:18 | raptor | bwahaha |
| 21:29:26 | Watusimoto | secure enough |
| 21:29:31 | raptor | use SSH |
| 21:29:34 | Watusimoto | I mean, totally insecure |
| 21:29:40 | raptor | and scp |
| 21:29:46 | Watusimoto | bankers |
| 21:29:49 | Watusimoto | I use those |
| 21:29:50 | raptor | that doesn't require port forwarding |
| 21:29:52 | raptor | ah |
| 21:29:54 | raptor | sigh |
| 21:30:22 | Watusimoto | and I use a .httpaccess password |
| 21:30:31 | raptor | heh |
| 21:30:35 | Watusimoto | which I transmit via email |
| 21:30:47 | Watusimoto | on the theory that no one is activley sniffing |
| 21:31:13 | raptor | the hope that it is obscure enough |
| 21:31:18 | Watusimoto | I'm mostly worried that a server holding my mail (or a copy) will be hacked someday and an account number will leak out |
| 21:31:33 | Watusimoto | obscurity works in the short term |
| 21:31:57 | Watusimoto | once the file has been retrieved, I can delete it, and the emailed details become worthless |
| 21:32:10 | Watusimoto | but this is all a huge pain in the butt |
| 21:33:01 | raptor | i still say use crypto.cat for real time communication... |
| 21:33:05 | raptor | you can send files, too |
| 21:33:09 | Watusimoto | that looks good |
| 21:33:12 | raptor | it's really neat |
| 21:33:20 | Watusimoto | I need to find out if she can access the site. Unlikely |
| 21:36:25 | Watusimoto | I guess cryptocat is secure in the sense that you can see if there is another party on the line |
| 21:36:34 | Watusimoto | though the URL itself is simply obsucre |
| 21:36:45 | raptor | yep |
| 21:39:30 | Watusimoto | where is .cat hosted? |
| 21:39:40 | Watusimoto | I mean what is that? |
| 21:39:46 | Little_Apple | in irleandland |
| 21:39:53 | raptor | http://www.iana.org/domains/root/db/ |
| 21:40:00 | Little_Apple | laterrrrssss |
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| 21:40:25 | Watusimoto | The. Cat, is a generic domain such as. Or the like. Org, but aimed specifically at the Catalan linguistic and cultural community on the Internet |
| 21:47:37 | raptor | for the record: i am against shoutboxes |
| 21:49:04 | raptor | it would be like taking the off-topic forum and making it real-time on the site |
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| 21:56:34 | Watusimoto | I think they're annoying too, but remember our audience :-) |
| 21:57:03 | Watusimoto | besides, a little less of the ot stuff archived might be good for the world! |
| 22:02:00 | raptor | we can wipe the off-topic forum with a click of a button :) |
| 22:02:20 | raptor | and i already turned off searchability for it, and posts to it don't count for post-count |
| 22:11:30 | raptor | wow, we're down to TWO servers and no-one online |
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| 22:42:02 | raptor | yay bugfix |
| 22:45:49 | | BFLogBot - Commit de90fbec7892 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix inability to type in game lobby if there are no servers |
| 23:33:52 | Watusimoto | things have been running lean lately |
| 23:34:29 | Watusimoto | with that, I bid you a good night |
| 23:35:05 | raptor | night |
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