#bitfighter IRC Log

IRC Log for 2012-08-14

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00:00:52 Watusimoto if I can just fix this link error, I might get to bed before too late!
00:01:06 Watusimoto hacky fix does the trick!!
00:01:39 Watusimoto it works!!!!
00:03:42 Watusimoto first try!!
00:04:03 Watusimoto well, almost works
00:08:32 raptor brazil?
00:10:12 Watusimoto the movie
00:10:36 Watusimoto surely you've seen it?
00:11:04 raptor honestly, i don't think so..
00:11:28 raptor maybe my mom had it around the house...
00:13:06 Watusimoto it's great
00:13:26 raptor the one from 1985?
00:13:52 Watusimoto yes
00:15:50 raptor so i can't tell if the movie is in color or black and white
00:18:32 raptor ok, i'm running in circles
00:19:10 raptor i'm trying to fix #31:
00:19:12 raptor http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List
00:20:39 raptor but i cannot seem to figure out how to appropriately update the badge for a player on all RemoteClientInfos when a player has earned it..
00:21:38 raptor i.e.  right now, you gain a badge, but it isn't reflected in the scoreboard (or anyone elses) unless you leave and rejoin the server
00:21:52 raptor so that needs to be solved, somehow
00:22:12 raptor but i'm going in circles with setAuthenticated() in ClientInfo
00:26:52 Watusimoto color
00:27:48 Watusimoto i.e. earn a badge, it doesn't show up
00:27:54 raptor yes
00:27:59 raptor unless you rejoin
00:28:54 Watusimoto what's the issue?
00:29:01 raptor jus tthat
00:29:03 Watusimoto why are you going in circles
00:29:05 raptor oh
00:29:20 raptor i'm trying to fix that, so i found the setAuthenticated method in ClientInfo
00:29:45 raptor thinking that would be what i'd need to recall upon earning a badge
00:30:02 Watusimoto seems logical
00:30:09 raptor but really, i'm open to any path to get that info updated
00:31:27 Watusimoto that's probably what I'd try, since it;s already written, not sure why it wouldn't work
00:31:39 raptor however, i'm having difficulty figuring out how setAuthenticated is called server side
00:31:43 Watusimoto what happens?
00:31:50 Watusimoto oh, just can't call it
00:31:53 raptor yeah...
00:32:48 Watusimoto gameConnection->s2cSetAuthenticated ??
00:33:16 Watusimoto void FullClientInfo::setAuthenticated(bool isAuthenticated, Int<BADGE_COUNT> badges)
00:33:28 raptor that's what i thought, too, but that is called from setAuthenticated() itself
00:33:39 raptor that's why it looks circley to me
00:33:58 Watusimoto I'd call setAuthenticated
00:34:18 Watusimoto from the server's fullCleintInfo on the player who got the badge
00:34:26 raptor ok
00:34:44 Watusimoto that shoudl update all the players
00:34:44 raptor ah ok
00:35:37 raptor i think i get it FCI:sA() -> s2c -> RCI:sA()
00:35:43 raptor if that's not cryptic..
00:41:15 Watusimoto yes
00:41:26 Watusimoto exactly that
00:41:35 Watusimoto this better work -- I need to get to bed
00:42:05 raptor oh man
00:42:07 raptor it's late!
00:44:34 Watusimoto indeed
00:46:02 Watusimoto ok, checking in.  lua console works, though output is not displayed
00:46:16 Watusimoto so you can generate errors or run (some) things silently
00:46:19 Watusimoto not much fun yet
00:46:27 Watusimoto night
00:46:30 raptor night
00:49:55 BFLogBot - Commit 3c1c5577cd17 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Added checks for failed malloc in oglconsole (untested)
00:49:56 BFLogBot - Commit 161fc7086bc1 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Lua console works!!!  But can't see output yet.
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01:07:26 raptor it works!
01:10:00 BFLogBot - Commit 66e117103b54 | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix badges not being updated in scoreboard when earned
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15:33:01 raptor good day!
16:27:08 watusimoto hi
16:27:12 raptor ahi
16:28:19 watusimoto did that update of award status thing work last night?
16:28:29 raptor yes
16:28:34 watusimoto excellent
16:38:27 raptor i think 99.9% of all players skip the instructions when trying the game
16:38:41 raptor because i just had to teach two people how to use loadouts
16:42:10 raptor and i do that all the time...
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19:50:44 Watusimoto oh boy
19:50:49 raptor hi
19:50:57 Watusimoto in editor console you can do this:
19:51:03 Watusimoto a = TestItem.new()
19:51:12 Watusimoto a:addToGame()
19:51:18 Watusimoto it doesn't work, but it should
19:51:23 Watusimoto let's pretend it does
19:51:27 Watusimoto item appears in editor
19:51:45 Watusimoto so now you test the level (or host a game)
19:51:53 Watusimoto open the in-game console
19:51:55 Watusimoto and tupe
19:51:58 Watusimoto type
19:52:03 Watusimoto a:addToGame()
19:52:07 raptor heh
19:52:07 Watusimoto what should happen?
19:52:12 raptor nothing!
19:52:16 Watusimoto why not?
19:52:28 raptor because you're in a different world
19:52:35 Watusimoto you are
19:52:44 Watusimoto but there is currently only one console instance
19:52:57 Watusimoto are you suggesting we have a different console for game and editor?
19:53:09 Watusimoto each hooked up to a different Lua environment?
19:53:31 Watusimoto anyway, what *does* happen is the game crashes
19:53:47 Watusimoto because the game sees that a was already added to a game, and our asserts fail
19:53:54 Watusimoto an object can only be in one game at a time
19:54:05 Watusimoto but now there is a way to add it to two games
19:54:21 Watusimoto though the editor is not really a game as such
19:54:27 Watusimoto but we treat it as if it were
19:55:16 Watusimoto and an obj can only be in one database
19:55:23 Watusimoto not both the editor db and the game db
19:55:56 Watusimoto independent consoles would actually fix the problem, as object a could only exist in one
19:56:06 Watusimoto but...
19:56:11 Watusimoto if you are in game and you do:
19:56:15 Watusimoto a:addToGame()
19:56:17 Watusimoto then
19:56:21 Watusimoto a:addToGame()
19:56:28 Watusimoto you'll probably get a crash there as well
19:56:37 Watusimoto by adding the object to the game twice
19:56:39 Watusimoto same issue
19:57:04 Watusimoto in *that* case, we could remove the object from the first game and add it to the second (thus nullifying the double add)
19:57:12 Watusimoto but we can;t do that with the editor
19:57:24 Watusimoto removing it from the editor to add it to a game is perverse
19:58:12 Watusimoto we could get rid of the console in the editor
20:00:35 Watusimoto I guess we could also check an object before we try to add it and prevent the double add
20:00:56 Watusimoto or clone the object and add the clone
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20:02:39 Watusimoto no clone won;t work
20:02:45 Watusimoto because you can currently do this
20:02:51 Watusimoto a:addToGame()
20:02:58 Watusimoto a:setVel(10,0)
20:03:02 Watusimoto and cloning would break that
20:03:06 Watusimoto which would be counterintuitive
20:07:19 raptor ok
20:07:29 raptor sorry was called into a mini-meeting...
20:07:34 raptor is reading the log
20:08:13 raptor diff Lua environment makes sense between editor and testing level
20:08:24 raptor a test should be self-contained
20:10:08 Watusimoto no worries
20:10:10 raptor so if you add an object in the editor via Lua, and it is visible, it should show up in the test
20:10:25 raptor but there should be no hooks to it in the Lua environment in the test
20:10:27 Watusimoto of course
20:10:43 Watusimoto so that implies a different console instance
20:11:10 Watusimoto because it wouldn't make sense to have your cmd history and screen scrollback have references to the object
20:11:18 raptor ah yes
20:11:20 raptor trye
20:11:21 raptor true
20:11:22 Watusimoto but your lua instance not having it
20:11:26 raptor different instance
20:12:03 Watusimoto so when we do logging, we currently write msgs to the console as well as the logfile
20:12:11 Watusimoto which console woudl they go to?
20:12:27 raptor uhh
20:12:28 raptor yes
20:12:38 Watusimoto and we now have one console, the gConsole, which is a global static
20:12:43 Watusimoto that would need to be refactored
20:13:03 Watusimoto two consoles is problematic
20:13:10 raptor hmmm
20:13:11 Watusimoto I think the console is the console
20:13:33 raptor could you swap out the history and Lua env?
20:13:40 Watusimoto probably
20:14:00 Watusimoto so when you are in neither editor nor game, which console gets messages?
20:14:17 Watusimoto or are you proposing (effectively) both
20:14:45 Watusimoto one problem with one console is this:
20:14:47 raptor that would be the easy answer
20:14:53 Watusimoto a = testItem.new()
20:14:59 Watusimoto a.addToGame()
20:15:07 Watusimoto then test level and do
20:15:11 Watusimoto a.addToGame()
20:15:18 Watusimoto (assuming that somehow worked)
20:15:26 Watusimoto then a.setLoc(10,10)
20:15:42 Watusimoto that probably shouldn't move the item in the editor
20:15:58 raptor correct
20:16:07 Watusimoto so that does suggest that isolation is probably a good thing
20:16:11 raptor yes
20:16:35 Watusimoto well, we could have two consoles and swap them out and keep the global pointer to the current console
20:17:08 Watusimoto oglconsole does some ugly internal console tracking as well.  maybe we could somehow leverage that
20:17:14 Watusimoto or gut it completely and roll our own
20:17:40 raptor well, i'm not a huge fan of oglconsole...  but then again i'm not doing the work :)
20:17:58 Watusimoto do we need an editor console at all?
20:18:08 raptor that was going to be my next question
20:18:15 Watusimoto many item methods don;t make sense in editor
20:18:21 Watusimoto only those dealing with position
20:18:39 Watusimoto adding, deleting, moving
20:19:42 Watusimoto though it would be cool to provide access to advanced functions via the console
20:19:52 Watusimoto like...  uh.... .... set bg color?
20:20:20 raptor ways to make tools like the curvegen?
20:20:38 raptor maybe only loading lua scripts is useful?
20:20:44 Watusimoto yes, though the curvegen method would still be available
20:20:59 raptor brb..
20:21:33 Watusimoto now I question whether we need a console in the game either
20:24:32 raptor only for trolling the players if we're an admin :)
20:24:38 raptor (eventually)
20:30:13 raptor why did you originally put a console in?
20:30:19 raptor because quake had one?  :)
21:05:28 Watusimoto sleepy time
21:05:40 raptor already?
21:05:47 raptor man today went by fast..
21:10:25 Watusimoto bed
21:10:30 Watusimoto night
21:10:37 raptor night
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00:00:52	Watusimoto	if I can just fix this link error, I might get to bed before too late!
00:01:06	Watusimoto	hacky fix does the trick!!
00:01:39	Watusimoto	it works!!!!
00:03:42	Watusimoto	first try!!
00:04:03	Watusimoto	well, almost works
00:08:32	raptor	brazil?
00:10:12	Watusimoto	the movie
00:10:36	Watusimoto	surely you've seen it?
00:11:04	raptor	honestly, i don't think so..
00:11:28	raptor	maybe my mom had it around the house...
00:13:06	Watusimoto	it's great
00:13:26	raptor	the one from 1985?
00:13:52	Watusimoto	yes
00:15:50	raptor	so i can't tell if the movie is in color or black and white
00:18:32	raptor	ok, i'm running in circles
00:19:10	raptor	i'm trying to fix #31:
00:19:12	raptor	http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List
00:20:39	raptor	but i cannot seem to figure out how to appropriately update the badge for a player on all RemoteClientInfos when a player has earned it..
00:21:38	raptor	i.e. right now, you gain a badge, but it isn't reflected in the scoreboard (or anyone elses) unless you leave and rejoin the server
00:21:52	raptor	so that needs to be solved, somehow
00:22:12	raptor	but i'm going in circles with setAuthenticated() in ClientInfo
00:26:52	Watusimoto	color
00:27:48	Watusimoto	i.e. earn a badge, it doesn't show up
00:27:54	raptor	yes
00:27:59	raptor	unless you rejoin
00:28:54	Watusimoto	what's the issue?
00:29:01	raptor	jus tthat
00:29:03	Watusimoto	why are you going in circles
00:29:05	raptor	oh
00:29:20	raptor	i'm trying to fix that, so i found the setAuthenticated method in ClientInfo
00:29:45	raptor	thinking that would be what i'd need to recall upon earning a badge
00:30:02	Watusimoto	seems logical
00:30:09	raptor	but really, i'm open to any path to get that info updated
00:31:27	Watusimoto	that's probably what I'd try, since it;s already written, not sure why it wouldn't work
00:31:39	raptor	however, i'm having difficulty figuring out how setAuthenticated is called server side
00:31:43	Watusimoto	what happens?
00:31:50	Watusimoto	oh, just can't call it
00:31:53	raptor	yeah...
00:32:48	Watusimoto	gameConnection->s2cSetAuthenticated ??
00:33:16	Watusimoto	void FullClientInfo::setAuthenticated(bool isAuthenticated, Int<BADGE_COUNT> badges)
00:33:28	raptor	that's what i thought, too, but that is called from setAuthenticated() itself
00:33:39	raptor	that's why it looks circley to me
00:33:58	Watusimoto	I'd call setAuthenticated
00:34:18	Watusimoto	from the server's fullCleintInfo on the player who got the badge
00:34:26	raptor	ok
00:34:44	Watusimoto	that shoudl update all the players
00:34:44	raptor	ah ok
00:35:37	raptor	i think i get it FCI:sA() -> s2c -> RCI:sA()
00:35:43	raptor	if that's not cryptic..
00:41:15	Watusimoto	yes
00:41:26	Watusimoto	exactly that
00:41:35	Watusimoto	this better work -- I need to get to bed
00:42:05	raptor	oh man
00:42:07	raptor	it's late!
00:44:34	Watusimoto	indeed
00:46:02	Watusimoto	ok, checking in. lua console works, though output is not displayed
00:46:16	Watusimoto	so you can generate errors or run (some) things silently
00:46:19	Watusimoto	not much fun yet
00:46:27	Watusimoto	night
00:46:30	raptor	night
00:49:55		BFLogBot - Commit 3c1c5577cd17 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Added checks for failed malloc in oglconsole (untested)
00:49:56		BFLogBot - Commit 161fc7086bc1 \| Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org \| Log: Lua console works!!! But can't see output yet.
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01:07:26	raptor	it works!
01:10:00		BFLogBot - Commit 66e117103b54 \| Author: buckyballreaction \| Log: Fix badges not being updated in scoreboard when earned
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15:33:01	raptor	good day!
16:27:08	watusimoto	hi
16:27:12	raptor	ahi
16:28:19	watusimoto	did that update of award status thing work last night?
16:28:29	raptor	yes
16:28:34	watusimoto	excellent
16:38:27	raptor	i think 99.9% of all players skip the instructions when trying the game
16:38:41	raptor	because i just had to teach two people how to use loadouts
16:42:10	raptor	and i do that all the time...
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19:50:44	Watusimoto	oh boy
19:50:49	raptor	hi
19:50:57	Watusimoto	in editor console you can do this:
19:51:03	Watusimoto	a = TestItem.new()
19:51:12	Watusimoto	a:addToGame()
19:51:18	Watusimoto	it doesn't work, but it should
19:51:23	Watusimoto	let's pretend it does
19:51:27	Watusimoto	item appears in editor
19:51:45	Watusimoto	so now you test the level (or host a game)
19:51:53	Watusimoto	open the in-game console
19:51:55	Watusimoto	and tupe
19:51:58	Watusimoto	type
19:52:03	Watusimoto	a:addToGame()
19:52:07	raptor	heh
19:52:07	Watusimoto	what should happen?
19:52:12	raptor	nothing!
19:52:16	Watusimoto	why not?
19:52:28	raptor	because you're in a different world
19:52:35	Watusimoto	you are
19:52:44	Watusimoto	but there is currently only one console instance
19:52:57	Watusimoto	are you suggesting we have a different console for game and editor?
19:53:09	Watusimoto	each hooked up to a different Lua environment?
19:53:31	Watusimoto	anyway, what does happen is the game crashes
19:53:47	Watusimoto	because the game sees that a was already added to a game, and our asserts fail
19:53:54	Watusimoto	an object can only be in one game at a time
19:54:05	Watusimoto	but now there is a way to add it to two games
19:54:21	Watusimoto	though the editor is not really a game as such
19:54:27	Watusimoto	but we treat it as if it were
19:55:16	Watusimoto	and an obj can only be in one database
19:55:23	Watusimoto	not both the editor db and the game db
19:55:56	Watusimoto	independent consoles would actually fix the problem, as object a could only exist in one
19:56:06	Watusimoto	but...
19:56:11	Watusimoto	if you are in game and you do:
19:56:15	Watusimoto	a:addToGame()
19:56:17	Watusimoto	then
19:56:21	Watusimoto	a:addToGame()
19:56:28	Watusimoto	you'll probably get a crash there as well
19:56:37	Watusimoto	by adding the object to the game twice
19:56:39	Watusimoto	same issue
19:57:04	Watusimoto	in that case, we could remove the object from the first game and add it to the second (thus nullifying the double add)
19:57:12	Watusimoto	but we can;t do that with the editor
19:57:24	Watusimoto	removing it from the editor to add it to a game is perverse
19:58:12	Watusimoto	we could get rid of the console in the editor
20:00:35	Watusimoto	I guess we could also check an object before we try to add it and prevent the double add
20:00:56	Watusimoto	or clone the object and add the clone
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20:02:39	Watusimoto	no clone won;t work
20:02:45	Watusimoto	because you can currently do this
20:02:51	Watusimoto	a:addToGame()
20:02:58	Watusimoto	a:setVel(10,0)
20:03:02	Watusimoto	and cloning would break that
20:03:06	Watusimoto	which would be counterintuitive
20:07:19	raptor	ok
20:07:29	raptor	sorry was called into a mini-meeting...
20:07:34		raptor is reading the log
20:08:13	raptor	diff Lua environment makes sense between editor and testing level
20:08:24	raptor	a test should be self-contained
20:10:08	Watusimoto	no worries
20:10:10	raptor	so if you add an object in the editor via Lua, and it is visible, it should show up in the test
20:10:25	raptor	but there should be no hooks to it in the Lua environment in the test
20:10:27	Watusimoto	of course
20:10:43	Watusimoto	so that implies a different console instance
20:11:10	Watusimoto	because it wouldn't make sense to have your cmd history and screen scrollback have references to the object
20:11:18	raptor	ah yes
20:11:20	raptor	trye
20:11:21	raptor	true
20:11:22	Watusimoto	but your lua instance not having it
20:11:26	raptor	different instance
20:12:03	Watusimoto	so when we do logging, we currently write msgs to the console as well as the logfile
20:12:11	Watusimoto	which console woudl they go to?
20:12:27	raptor	uhh
20:12:28	raptor	yes
20:12:38	Watusimoto	and we now have one console, the gConsole, which is a global static
20:12:43	Watusimoto	that would need to be refactored
20:13:03	Watusimoto	two consoles is problematic
20:13:10	raptor	hmmm
20:13:11	Watusimoto	I think the console is the console
20:13:33	raptor	could you swap out the history and Lua env?
20:13:40	Watusimoto	probably
20:14:00	Watusimoto	so when you are in neither editor nor game, which console gets messages?
20:14:17	Watusimoto	or are you proposing (effectively) both
20:14:45	Watusimoto	one problem with one console is this:
20:14:47	raptor	that would be the easy answer
20:14:53	Watusimoto	a = testItem.new()
20:14:59	Watusimoto	a.addToGame()
20:15:07	Watusimoto	then test level and do
20:15:11	Watusimoto	a.addToGame()
20:15:18	Watusimoto	(assuming that somehow worked)
20:15:26	Watusimoto	then a.setLoc(10,10)
20:15:42	Watusimoto	that probably shouldn't move the item in the editor
20:15:58	raptor	correct
20:16:07	Watusimoto	so that does suggest that isolation is probably a good thing
20:16:11	raptor	yes
20:16:35	Watusimoto	well, we could have two consoles and swap them out and keep the global pointer to the current console
20:17:08	Watusimoto	oglconsole does some ugly internal console tracking as well. maybe we could somehow leverage that
20:17:14	Watusimoto	or gut it completely and roll our own
20:17:40	raptor	well, i'm not a huge fan of oglconsole... but then again i'm not doing the work :)
20:17:58	Watusimoto	do we need an editor console at all?
20:18:08	raptor	that was going to be my next question
20:18:15	Watusimoto	many item methods don;t make sense in editor
20:18:21	Watusimoto	only those dealing with position
20:18:39	Watusimoto	adding, deleting, moving
20:19:42	Watusimoto	though it would be cool to provide access to advanced functions via the console
20:19:52	Watusimoto	like... uh.... .... set bg color?
20:20:20	raptor	ways to make tools like the curvegen?
20:20:38	raptor	maybe only loading lua scripts is useful?
20:20:44	Watusimoto	yes, though the curvegen method would still be available
20:20:59	raptor	brb..
20:21:33	Watusimoto	now I question whether we need a console in the game either
20:24:32	raptor	only for trolling the players if we're an admin :)
20:24:38	raptor	(eventually)
20:30:13	raptor	why did you originally put a console in?
20:30:19	raptor	because quake had one? :)
21:05:28	Watusimoto	sleepy time
21:05:40	raptor	already?
21:05:47	raptor	man today went by fast..
21:10:25	Watusimoto	bed
21:10:30	Watusimoto	night
21:10:37	raptor	night
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