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| 02:24:29 | raptor | ok |
| 02:24:40 | raptor | so BlackBird says we should keep pulse as a module in itself |
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| 15:07:14 | raptor | good day! |
| 15:07:28 | raptor | i fell asleep before i could make the sensor changes... |
| 15:41:08 | watusimoto | :-) |
| 15:45:15 | raptor | did you see my response on the 'Simplification' thread? |
| 15:46:26 | watusimoto | yes |
| 15:46:30 | watusimoto | good |
| 15:47:12 | watusimoto | btw, did you ever close your stackoverflow question? |
| 15:47:44 | raptor | no |
| 15:47:51 | raptor | i'm not satisfied |
| 15:47:57 | raptor | but i wonder if i'll ever be... |
| 15:48:05 | raptor | maybe the nature of the beast is to be cumbersome |
| 15:48:11 | watusimoto | well, if no one else posts, you won't be :-) |
| 15:48:43 | watusimoto | I think questions go stale on SO after about 3 days |
| 15:49:16 | raptor | how would i drum up more answers? |
| 15:51:27 | raptor | so i got at least two players (Little_Apple, BlackBird) who want the Pulse to stick around |
| 15:51:43 | raptor | and suggested it be a completely different module |
| 16:10:25 | watusimoto | I think the only way to drum up new answers is to post a variant under a different user name |
| 16:10:55 | watusimoto | I think the problem is that anyone who sees an older question assumes it is abandoned and won't bother to reply to it further |
| 16:11:09 | watusimoto | let me think about pulse a little more |
| 16:13:46 | watusimoto | the problem with a pulse module is that it is a one-time use thing (sort of), and it is very similar to turbo |
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| 16:28:35 | raptor | yes, i agree it is similar and seems not too useful comparatively |
| 16:28:50 | raptor | although people love it for soccer |
| 16:30:25 | raptor | maybe it could be enhanced somehow like include some other buff |
| 16:30:52 | raptor | it's the curse of including something new... |
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| 18:27:34 | raptor | hi Watusimoto |
| 18:27:41 | raptor | I spoke a bunch with Unknown in-game |
| 18:28:34 | raptor | ah, he posted in the forums |
| 18:28:42 | raptor | yeah - he doesn't want Pulse to go either... |
| 18:28:54 | raptor | maybe I jumped the gun in my code change? |
| 18:32:12 | Watusimoto | he was the reason we got rid of it!!! |
| 18:32:17 | raptor | I K NOW |
| 18:32:23 | raptor | grrr |
| 18:32:25 | Watusimoto | what does he propose? |
| 18:32:34 | raptor | that we put it back, but still make the sensor changes |
| 18:32:43 | raptor | than means that only boost would have the kinetic piece |
| 18:35:32 | Watusimoto | that doesn't really make sense |
| 18:37:20 | raptor | ? |
| 18:37:35 | Watusimoto | the sensor changes only make sense in the context of eliminating the complexity of kinetic |
| 18:38:24 | raptor | not for their own sake, you think? the kinetic part of sensor is clunkier than that of boost |
| 18:39:26 | Watusimoto | boost is already quite powerful |
| 18:39:49 | Watusimoto | making it the only module with kinetic makes it even moreso |
| 18:41:19 | Watusimoto | maybe sensor could have pulse as kinetic |
| 18:41:24 | raptor | well now i just don't know what to do - because more people are complaining i removed Pulse... |
| 18:41:35 | raptor | ha! |
| 18:41:39 | raptor | interesting idea... |
| 18:41:50 | Watusimoto | why not mix it up a little? |
| 18:42:19 | Watusimoto | give the weakest modules more powers |
| 18:42:22 | raptor | are you serious? because i'd be fine with it... |
| 18:42:27 | Watusimoto | half serious |
| 18:42:36 | Watusimoto | but I also like eliminating the double-click |
| 18:42:39 | raptor | they don't really match |
| 18:42:44 | Watusimoto | not at all |
| 18:43:01 | raptor | Unknown thinks we should combine shield and armor, and nerf shield |
| 18:43:19 | Watusimoto | for a super powerful module? |
| 18:44:01 | raptor | no, according to him, shield is too powerful and therefore almost a requirement to always have (and eating up a module spot) |
| 18:44:34 | Watusimoto | it is pretty powerful |
| 18:44:55 | raptor | an idea that came up: give shield to everyone as a permanent 3rd module |
| 18:44:56 | Watusimoto | so he proposes get rid of shield and only have armor(w/o movement penalty) |
| 18:45:03 | raptor | correct |
| 18:45:08 | Watusimoto | we don't have 3 buttons |
| 18:45:26 | Watusimoto | we could have 2 active modules and one passive |
| 18:45:35 | raptor | true, but there are lots of empy ones on the keyboard |
| 18:45:40 | Watusimoto | i.e. differentiate modules into two classes |
| 18:45:49 | Watusimoto | keyboard is not a problem, joysticks are |
| 18:46:01 | Watusimoto | two buttons works pretty well on a stick |
| 18:46:09 | raptor | really, we already ate up all the joystick buttons? |
| 18:46:12 | raptor | ah |
| 18:46:18 | Watusimoto | with drop flag, yes |
| 18:46:28 | raptor | huh, i didn't know that... |
| 18:47:09 | Watusimoto | cmdrs map, scoreboard, mod1, mod2, switch weapon, drop flag |
| 18:47:33 | Watusimoto | probably something else |
| 18:48:26 | Watusimoto | the best bet is make pulse a separate module |
| 18:48:29 | raptor | it was funny because unknown hadn't even tested 017 yet when he started his post - he just did so with me today |
| 18:48:39 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 18:50:47 | raptor | if it was a separate module, the changes i'd make would be: 1. use half energy (or so) for consistent impulse each time 2. if not moving, pulse in the aiming direction |
| 18:51:09 | raptor | maybe there'd be some passive ability? |
| 18:51:22 | raptor | like 1.05 * speed increase? |
| 18:51:47 | raptor | or random teleportation every 45 seconds |
| 18:51:58 | raptor | ok.. i don't know.. |
| 18:52:02 | Watusimoto | yeah, random teleportation will be popular |
| 18:52:19 | Watusimoto | I think we should just abandon it |
| 18:52:43 | Watusimoto | sam points out it has problems on joysticks anyway |
| 18:53:10 | raptor | people hate feature removal... |
| 18:53:16 | Watusimoto | yes they do |
| 18:53:24 | Watusimoto | though not carrying soccer ball |
| 18:53:31 | raptor | haha, except that, yes |
| 18:54:47 | raptor | rock -> Pulse <- hard place |
| 18:56:26 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 18:57:48 | raptor | i had another idea, but it won't work: module1 key + module2 key = kinetic |
| 18:57:59 | raptor | err, kinetic for module1 |
| 18:58:00 | Watusimoto | I thought about that too |
| 18:58:10 | Watusimoto | well, we could have a special kinetic slot |
| 18:58:15 | raptor | because i see people always using boost + shield together.. |
| 18:58:16 | Watusimoto | 2 mods + kinetic |
| 18:58:39 | raptor | but then we'd need a third key? |
| 18:58:41 | Watusimoto | or we could go streetfighter route and have special move combos |
| 18:58:52 | raptor | haha |
| 18:58:53 | Watusimoto | up-up-down-left fires a super burst |
| 18:59:09 | raptor | hey... that's actually used in unreal tournament |
| 18:59:36 | raptor | once you kill enough people, you can do up-up-up-up to get a speed boost |
| 18:59:41 | Watusimoto | ha |
| 19:00:16 | Watusimoto | it sounds like people figured out the kinetic aspect pretty well |
| 19:00:28 | Watusimoto | so the double-click might not be as broken as we feared |
| 19:00:42 | raptor | but they hated it with sensor |
| 19:01:01 | Watusimoto | but it absolutely makes no sense to give one of the more powerful modules an even more powerful kinetic aspect |
| 19:01:14 | raptor | i remember _k saying that it was OK on his joystick |
| 19:01:25 | raptor | we could reduce boost |
| 19:01:35 | Watusimoto | why do they hate sensor kinetic? |
| 19:01:38 | raptor | or increase cost |
| 19:01:54 | raptor | because activating it makes the screen jump |
| 19:02:23 | Watusimoto | quick unrelated design question: luaScriptRunner is parent of all classes that run scripts; LuaObject is parent of all objects that implement lua things. I need a parent class for both of those |
| 19:02:32 | Watusimoto | I see |
| 19:02:34 | raptor | LuaLua |
| 19:02:43 | Watusimoto | no more jumpy than old-school sensor, though |
| 19:02:56 | Watusimoto | BfLua |
| 19:03:03 | Watusimoto | LuaRoot |
| 19:03:16 | Watusimoto | LuaMethodRunner |
| 19:03:20 | raptor | LuaParent |
| 19:03:34 | Watusimoto | Lalalalalua |
| 19:03:44 | raptor | ha |
| 19:04:27 | Watusimoto | I only need it to hold info about lua methods; a couple of enums and methods |
| 19:04:44 | Watusimoto | LuaArgs |
| 19:04:51 | Watusimoto | LuaArgManager |
| 19:04:57 | Watusimoto | LuaParam |
| 19:05:52 | Watusimoto | # define LUA_ARG_TYPE_TABLE \ |
| 19:05:52 | Watusimoto | LUA_ARG_TYPE_ITEM( BOOL, "Boolean" ) \ |
| 19:05:52 | Watusimoto | LUA_ARG_TYPE_ITEM( INT, "Integer" ) \ |
| 19:05:52 | Watusimoto | LUA_ARG_TYPE_ITEM( INTS, "One or more integers" ) \ |
| 19:05:52 | Watusimoto | LUA_ARG_TYPE_ITEM( NUM, "Number" ) \ |
| 19:06:14 | Watusimoto | that def and the method that uses it to verify args passed from lua |
| 19:06:38 | Watusimoto | LuaBase |
| 19:09:19 | Watusimoto | I'm going with LuaBase |
| 19:09:30 | Watusimoto | so I'm not sure what to do about pulse |
| 19:09:43 | Watusimoto | I think for now we just leave it as you made it... i.e. no pulse |
| 19:09:47 | Watusimoto | let's see what happens |
| 19:10:39 | raptor | well, i've only had complaints so far... |
| 19:11:14 | Watusimoto | tell them we're mulling optios |
| 19:11:16 | Watusimoto | options |
| 19:11:32 | Watusimoto | it makes turbo too powerful |
| 19:11:50 | raptor | well right now it uses up 100% of the energy |
| 19:11:53 | Watusimoto | it adds complexity (for Unknown) |
| 19:12:02 | Watusimoto | true |
| 19:12:05 | raptor | which reduces the powerfulness of it |
| 19:12:16 | Watusimoto | yes, but you get it on top of regular turbo |
| 19:12:50 | raptor | so its an issue of multipurpose vs single purpose |
| 19:12:51 | Watusimoto | turbo is already powerful; why should you get an extra bonus in addition? |
| 19:13:00 | raptor | yes true |
| 19:13:14 | Watusimoto | in order to support pulse we also need to add the complexity of the double-click |
| 19:13:31 | Watusimoto | I'm willing to do that, but I feel that we need a more compelling reason than just one kinetic |
| 19:13:51 | Watusimoto | especially a kinetic on one of the most powerful and popular modules |
| 19:13:54 | raptor | we can come up with other kinetics! |
| 19:13:57 | raptor | :) |
| 19:14:01 | Watusimoto | remember we started this trying to make sensor more powerful |
| 19:14:08 | raptor | yes |
| 19:14:12 | Watusimoto | we can, theoretically, but we haven't |
| 19:14:16 | Watusimoto | and we've tried |
| 19:14:57 | raptor | armor kinetic = stationary invulnerability for 5 secs... |
| 19:15:01 | Watusimoto | what if we made pulse use a weapon slot? |
| 19:15:31 | raptor | repair kinetic = healing wave |
| 19:15:36 | raptor | hmmm |
| 19:15:43 | raptor | it doesn't do damage to anything |
| 19:15:54 | Watusimoto | no, not at all |
| 19:15:58 | Watusimoto | what's a healing wave? |
| 19:16:07 | raptor | random kinetic idea for other modules |
| 19:16:31 | raptor | uhh.. like an expanding circle that will heal everyone 25% damage |
| 19:16:40 | raptor | for one idea (i hadn't thought it out...) |
| 19:16:40 | Watusimoto | but with heat seeker and a reverse heal weapon, that's two more weapons out of our max of 9 |
| 19:17:13 | raptor | heal would be kinetic |
| 19:17:21 | raptor | so part of repair |
| 19:17:26 | Watusimoto | maybe kinetic heal would be use all your energy to fully repair object |
| 19:17:39 | Watusimoto | kind of a rapid charge |
| 19:17:42 | raptor | yes |
| 19:17:44 | raptor | that |
| 19:18:07 | raptor | but only another object maybe |
| 19:18:40 | Watusimoto | do people actually use pulse in game? |
| 19:18:45 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 19:18:52 | Watusimoto | is it good? |
| 19:19:01 | Watusimoto | or does it just seem random? |
| 19:19:03 | raptor | mostly to bump people around for fun, but in soccer it adds a fun dimension |
| 19:19:36 | raptor | i've seen some people use it to score a touchdown on that last goal while being chased |
| 19:19:55 | raptor | i've also seen it used to hide |
| 19:20:09 | raptor | quick pulse + change direction to evade chaser |
| 19:22:09 | Watusimoto | so... is it a good addition from a playability standpoint? |
| 19:25:14 | raptor | i think it at least doesn't detract, and maybe adds some fun in certain situations |
| 19:25:26 | raptor | but i think most people have become endeared to it.. |
| 19:26:47 | raptor | in my limited contact with normal players.. |
| 19:30:28 | raptor | we have official ports with IANA! |
| 19:30:34 | raptor | also 25954? |
| 19:38:29 | Watusimoto | for default game port |
| 19:38:44 | Watusimoto | instad of 28000 or whatever we use |
| 19:38:50 | raptor | ahh, ok |
| 19:38:57 | Watusimoto | that one's easy to change |
| 19:39:01 | Watusimoto | if we even care |
| 19:39:17 | Watusimoto | remeber the main reason for this was to bolster a wikipedia entry |
| 19:39:40 | Watusimoto | is there a local neighborhood paper in your niehgborhood? |
| 19:39:47 | Watusimoto | something smaller than the SLT tribune? |
| 19:39:55 | Watusimoto | (if that's what it's called) |
| 19:39:59 | raptor | like real paper? |
| 19:40:03 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 19:40:13 | raptor | hmmm... i think so, let me see what it is again |
| 19:40:14 | Watusimoto | for example, we have one called the SE Examiner |
| 19:40:31 | Watusimoto | that basically covers a couple of neighborhoods around my hosue |
| 19:40:45 | Watusimoto | and another called the Bee for an area just south of us |
| 19:41:07 | raptor | so there's the daily herald |
| 19:41:09 | Watusimoto | neither are papers of record, just little newspapers to sell ads to local businesses and run stories about neighborhood meetins and such |
| 19:41:13 | raptor | covers utah county i think |
| 19:41:20 | Watusimoto | anything smaller? |
| 19:41:30 | raptor | provo city monthly newsletter |
| 19:41:42 | raptor | that comes with my electric bill |
| 19:42:02 | raptor | oh, the universities around me might have something |
| 19:42:35 | Watusimoto | well, my idea was this |
| 19:42:45 | Watusimoto | I should ahev done this with the examiner before I left |
| 19:43:17 | raptor | UVU review and the Daily Universe are from the universities |
| 19:43:17 | Watusimoto | but I was thinking I could have arranged to have myself interviewd about Bitfighter -- local resident working on interesting game |
| 19:43:25 | raptor | haha |
| 19:43:32 | Watusimoto | or I could have written some stupid story about the game or whatever |
| 19:43:37 | Watusimoto | just get the game into print somehow |
| 19:43:43 | Watusimoto | and use that as a wikipedia reference |
| 19:43:52 | raptor | ooo, the springville herald |
| 19:43:59 | Watusimoto | yeah, that kind of thing |
| 19:44:11 | raptor | that's just a few miles to the south covering only springville (which is waay smaller than provo) |
| 19:44:19 | Watusimoto | the smaller they are, the more they;re willing to accept local fluff pieces that they don;t ahve to write |
| 19:44:27 | Watusimoto | that's my theory anyway |
| 19:44:41 | raptor | notability is the key |
| 19:44:43 | Watusimoto | we've also been on that linux tv show |
| 19:44:48 | raptor | oh y eah! |
| 19:44:53 | Watusimoto | what's more notable than a printed paper? |
| 19:45:03 | Watusimoto | ok, maybe not the nytimes |
| 19:45:04 | raptor | exactly |
| 19:45:05 | Watusimoto | but still |
| 19:45:12 | Watusimoto | printed |
| 19:45:14 | raptor | yeah i try to stay away from fiction |
| 19:45:36 | Watusimoto | I think the times is as good as they come... which isn;t saying too much |
| 19:45:48 | Watusimoto | but it's better than the Portland paper, for example |
| 19:45:54 | raptor | sadly, it's true... |
| 19:46:07 | raptor | they have some really good articles sometimes, but i always like to make the fiction joke |
| 19:46:15 | Watusimoto | the Boston Globe used to be quite good, but it got bought by the NYTimes, and dumbed down to avoid competition |
| 19:46:37 | raptor | i used to know lots of people who preferred teh washington post |
| 19:46:49 | Watusimoto | that's a good paper too |
| 19:47:05 | Watusimoto | anyway, we're not going to get in one of those unless you knwo a writer |
| 19:47:31 | Watusimoto | anway, something to think about |
| 19:47:42 | raptor | i have a friend wife who has written for a local paper |
| 19:47:48 | raptor | friend's wife |
| 19:47:59 | Watusimoto | I have a friend wife too! :-) |
| 19:48:04 | raptor | something about being a woman in smalltown utah |
| 19:48:08 | raptor | haha |
| 19:48:11 | Watusimoto | anyway, wikipedia infuriates me |
| 19:48:17 | Watusimoto | with their stupid policy |
| 19:48:43 | raptor | i wish they kept a backup of the article |
| 19:48:59 | raptor | because I would re-submit it with that linux talk show link |
| 19:49:03 | Watusimoto | isn't there a deleted wikipedia article site? |
| 19:49:13 | raptor | but i'm too lazy to rewrite the whole thing... |
| 19:49:31 | raptor | i've search for past dumps |
| 19:49:34 | raptor | searched |
| 19:49:44 | raptor | and couldn't find it - i didn't put a ton of effort into it, though |
| 19:50:05 | Watusimoto | Not on deletionpedia |
| 19:50:33 | Watusimoto | http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Bitfighter_Wikipedia_Submission |
| 19:51:05 | raptor | yeah, i started that |
| 19:51:22 | raptor | i was planning on pasting the old source of the wikipedia page to it - but then i couldn't find it |
| 19:52:03 | raptor | where is that linux talk show again? |
| 19:52:24 | raptor | because I can start the official Undeletion procedure... |
| 20:01:37 | Watusimoto | http://www.jupiterbroadcasting.com/18071/bryan-hates-freedom-las-s21e01/ |
| 20:03:03 | raptor | whereabouts again? |
| 20:10:12 | raptor | 9:30 |
| 20:21:59 | raptor | ok Watusimoto: i requested undelete from deletioner: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DragonflySixtyseven#Deleted_page_-_Bitfighter |
| 20:22:25 | raptor | after having read 5 pages of undeletion procedure only to find out that it didn't apply to our situation |
| 20:22:49 | Watusimoto | why not? |
| 20:23:40 | raptor | because our page was deleted through the 'proper' procedure of nomination, review, etc. |
| 20:23:45 | Watusimoto | they're going to deny |
| 20:23:54 | raptor | i know |
| 20:24:02 | raptor | i probably didn't make a very good case |
| 20:24:12 | Watusimoto | they're just bastards about this stuff |
| 20:24:19 | raptor | or that.. |
| 20:25:31 | Watusimoto | though I do understand their point -- I'd hate for wikipedia to fill up |
| 20:25:48 | Watusimoto | or that they might run out of bits |
| 20:26:08 | raptor | i wonder if the game has to make money or something? |
| 20:26:24 | Watusimoto | I'll pay you to play |
| 20:26:33 | raptor | great! i'll pay you, too |
| 20:26:57 | raptor | and we can call it even |
| 20:27:08 | raptor | or maybe funds actually have to transfer... |
| 20:29:28 | Watusimoto | hell, it's a big internatinoal project! |
| 20:29:36 | raptor | yeah! |
| 20:44:12 | raptor | oh oops, i sent to the wrong person... |
| 20:44:21 | raptor | and i sent it to the more pedantic one! |
| 20:44:24 | raptor | bah! |
| 21:12:37 | Watusimoto | oops |
| 21:12:59 | raptor | he was the guy who first deleted the page |
| 21:13:35 | raptor | should have sent it to the second deletioner... I think... unless he was the one who got into an arguement with _k |
| 21:18:25 | Watusimoto | too late? |
| 21:18:45 | raptor | well i could send it to both? then they'd hate us more |
| 21:19:44 | Watusimoto | they're probably sending emails to each other about what jerks we are |
| 21:19:47 | Watusimoto | right now |
| 21:20:26 | raptor | i'm pretty sure we're not notable enough for them to care... :) |
| 21:35:02 | raptor | huh, even the 'naev' folks don't have a wikipedia page |
| 21:35:08 | raptor | and they are on desura! |
| 21:36:28 | raptor | i wonder - would it be worth it to get us on Desura, too? |
| 21:43:24 | Watusimoto | what's that? |
| 21:45:55 | raptor | cross platform Steam |
| 21:46:40 | Watusimoto | sure... can we? |
| 21:47:49 | Watusimoto | looks mostly for commercial games |
| 21:48:57 | raptor | well, naev got on there... |
| 21:51:57 | Watusimoto | true |
| 21:54:09 | Watusimoto | well, I created an acct... I'll see what's up |
| 21:59:10 | Watusimoto | great... bitfighter.org mail forwarding seems dead... can;t get confirmatino email |
| 22:00:14 | raptor | :( |
| 22:04:52 | Watusimoto | maybe all my mail is dead |
| 22:06:05 | Watusimoto | no. some is working |
| 22:12:43 | Watusimoto | as long as forwarding is broken, want raptor at bf.org? |
| 22:12:54 | raptor | sure! |
| 22:12:56 | raptor | :) |
| 22:13:03 | Watusimoto | I have the page open |
| 22:14:57 | Watusimoto | done |
| 22:15:00 | Watusimoto | you and sam |
| 22:16:36 | raptor | i'm getting famouser! |
| 22:20:43 | Watusimoto | Need all kinds of stuff:Icon* |
| 22:20:43 | Watusimoto | 30kb max, 32x32 exactly |
| 22:20:43 | Watusimoto | |
| 22:20:43 | Watusimoto | Boxshot |
| 22:20:43 | Watusimoto | 5000kb max, 480x600 recommended, front-on shot, not 3D please |
| 22:20:43 | Watusimoto | |
| 22:20:45 | Watusimoto | Preview Image* |
| 22:20:47 | Watusimoto | 2000kb max, 1024x768 recommended |
| 22:20:50 | Watusimoto | The preview image is shown when browsing the games listing. |
| 22:20:52 | Watusimoto | |
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| 22:20:56 | Watusimoto | 200kb max, 950x150 recommended |
| 22:20:59 | Watusimoto | This header image is shown at the top of the games profile, where the games name is. An image with no text looks best. |
| 22:21:01 | Watusimoto | |
| 22:21:03 | Watusimoto | LARGE Profile Header Image (used on Desura) |
| 22:21:05 | Watusimoto | 2000kb max, 940x370 minimum |
| 22:21:08 | Watusimoto | Please upload an in-game screenshot here with no text as that will look best. |
| 22:21:11 | Watusimoto | |
| 22:21:12 | Watusimoto | Platform(s)* |
| 22:21:17 | Watusimoto | blech |
| 22:25:34 | Watusimoto | well, I need some good screenshots... do you have any you;re itchin' to use, or should I pull one from the website? |
| 22:26:21 | raptor | sam has some somewhere... let me see if i can find them |
| 22:27:51 | raptor | found these: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/BBB8/index1.html |
| 22:28:31 | Watusimoto | can't use one with a user called megatits |
| 22:28:36 | raptor | haha |
| 22:29:31 | raptor | sadly those are all from a video capture at a non standard resolution.. |
| 22:29:57 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 22:30:23 | Watusimoto | like this one? |
| 22:30:23 | Watusimoto | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/BBB8/20.png |
| 22:31:02 | Watusimoto | actually, not using those |
| 22:31:03 | Watusimoto | too big |
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| 22:37:06 | raptor | lots of PNGs here: mostly from debugging, i'm sure |
| 22:37:06 | raptor | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/ |
| 22:37:06 | raptor | ha!: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/bitfighter/bitfighter4.PNG |
| 22:37:06 | raptor | more here: most are standard size, too: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/ |
| 22:37:23 | Watusimoto | I'll get us on http://www.indiedb.com -- looks like a cool resource |
| 22:37:59 | raptor | neat |
| 22:40:15 | Watusimoto | that list from upload is pretty poor, sadly... |
| 22:40:46 | raptor | probably mostly debug junk |
| 22:40:49 | Watusimoto | this one;s ok |
| 22:40:50 | Watusimoto | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/2011-11-09-105110.jpg |
| 22:40:57 | raptor | hahaha |
| 22:46:00 | raptor | another two players want to keep Pulse, and they say they use it frequently for quick getaways |
| 22:46:06 | raptor | during gameplay |
| 22:48:07 | raptor | someone said they only use the boost module for pulse, they don't like turbo |
| 22:49:15 | raptor | someone else said it isn't overpowered because it drains all your energy |
| 22:49:32 | raptor | but i think it still gives you a lot.. |
| 22:59:42 | Watusimoto | ok, let's try to figure a way to keep it |
| 22:59:45 | Watusimoto | seems quite popular |
| 23:05:37 | raptor | Gentwix says "i don't use it much but it has gotten me out of bad situations" |
| 23:23:48 | Watusimoto | lame |
| 23:23:57 | Watusimoto | I started moving functions from LuaObject to LuaBase |
| 23:24:05 | Watusimoto | and I've now moved everything but one function |
| 23:24:17 | Watusimoto | and lost my ability to compile |
| 23:24:24 | raptor | ha |
| 23:24:44 | raptor | maybe you should have made LuaRoof |
| 23:24:51 | raptor | LuaObjectChild |
| 23:24:55 | raptor | and moved the one |
| 23:38:42 | raptor | ok heading home... and i'm taking a week off work! |
| 23:39:35 | raptor | Watusimoto: should i just revert my kinetic removal and then do the sensor changes? |
| 23:40:03 | Watusimoto | it sounds like you want to... |
| 23:40:16 | Watusimoto | I guess if we don't have a better solution in mind |
| 23:40:19 | Watusimoto | which we don;t |
| 23:40:27 | raptor | well... i wasn't expecting so many people to want to keep it.. |
| 23:40:32 | Watusimoto | me neither |
| 23:40:40 | raptor | i guess most of the hatred was directed at the sensor implementation |
| 23:40:56 | Watusimoto | but we really need to think about how to make it fit better |
| 23:41:12 | raptor | yes |
| 23:41:37 | raptor | ok, heading home... |
| 23:41:46 | raptor | good night if you're not on later :) |
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