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| 00:05:00 | raptor | OK, I *think* I got everything so far. Did I miss anything?: http://beta.etherpad.org/p/018_new_stuff |
| 00:06:16 | raptor | i didn't say anything about the hidden ship shapes |
| 00:08:24 | sam686 | "Fix blank lobby list on quick rejoins" is a fix on master side (the fix works on existing 017 and 016) which a problem started as an anti-flood master lobby chat area |
| 00:08:34 | raptor | oh yeah... |
| 00:08:36 | raptor | i remove |
| 00:08:39 | raptor | or you remove |
| 00:08:43 | raptor | since anyone can edit |
| 00:18:33 | raptor | Watusimoto: you're even documenting the PERL??? |
| 00:18:41 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 00:18:43 | raptor | what kind of twisted universe do you come from? |
| 00:18:50 | Watusimoto | strange, I know |
| 00:19:00 | Watusimoto | I want to know how to fix it when it breaks! |
| 00:19:50 | bobdaduck | lol |
| 00:19:59 | bobdaduck | good planning |
| 00:20:03 | bobdaduck | what hidden ship shapes. |
| 00:20:04 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 00:22:01 | raptor | the ones found here are technically still in the code, just no way to actually use them: http://bitfighter.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1447&p=14477&hilit=ship+shapes#p14252 |
| 00:23:20 | bobdaduck | So is anyone going to impliment the whole "Idle for a couple seconds and then your energy regens drastically" thing? |
| 00:23:33 | bobdaduck | I mean, it would be stupidly easy for me to give you guys the code. |
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| 00:24:09 | raptor | i don't know... Watusimoto? your thoughts |
| 00:24:20 | Watusimoto | sorry dozing off |
| 00:24:40 | Watusimoto | what's the question? |
| 00:25:08 | Watusimoto | ducky's idle question? |
| 00:25:13 | sam686 | watch out raptor, if you disconnect, you won't be able to use NickServ / ChanServ until it comes back... |
| 00:25:14 | raptor | fast energy regen after 2 seconds of idle |
| 00:25:34 | Watusimoto | we could try it |
| 00:25:58 | raptor | essentially negates all the loadout zone work |
| 00:26:07 | raptor | except the hostile-reduce-energy one |
| 00:26:19 | Watusimoto | true, but I;ve never seen anyone recharging in a loadout zone |
| 00:26:27 | bobdaduck | that's because |
| 00:26:30 | bobdaduck | loadout zone regen |
| 00:26:37 | bobdaduck | is like 1.05% normal |
| 00:26:39 | bobdaduck | useless |
| 00:26:44 | raptor | it is faster now... |
| 00:26:48 | bobdaduck | NO ITS NOT. |
| 00:26:50 | bobdaduck | I played. |
| 00:26:56 | bobdaduck | it isn't enough to impact gameplay at all. |
| 00:27:00 | raptor | i thought kaen made it twice as fast... |
| 00:27:00 | Watusimoto | what if iwe made loadout zones into repair depos that repaired damage and did quick energy regens |
| 00:27:33 | bobdaduck | then it should be a seperate object, and I still don't think it'd really be that big. |
| 00:27:40 | bobdaduck | twice as fast |
| 00:27:42 | bobdaduck | 1.1% |
| 00:27:44 | bobdaduck | nice. |
| 00:28:02 | bobdaduck | Its faster to keep moving towards the enemy base and regen on the way. |
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| 00:28:16 | bobdaduck | Only use of loadout zone current regen is mine spamming or such. |
| 00:28:16 | Watusimoto | so you freeze for 2 secs and energy is instantly refilled, or just refills quickly? |
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| 00:28:25 | bobdaduck | it refills quickly. |
| 00:28:27 | bobdaduck | way quickly. |
| 00:28:41 | bobdaduck | like, full energy in two more seconds. |
| 00:28:48 | Watusimoto | sure, we could try that. |
| 00:31:37 | bobdaduck | last time I monkeyed with the code was 015 xD |
| 00:32:00 | bobdaduck | started getting all these linking errors and never bothered to do anything about it. |
| 00:32:10 | bobdaduck | also raptor: Here's my shotgun code |
| 00:32:23 | sam686 | EnergyRechargeRate (base recharge rate) is 8, movement penalty is -2, your loadout zone recharge rate is + 4, they add up.. 8 + 4 = 12, that is 1.5 times more then if you are not in loadout zone.. (if your ship not moving) |
| 00:32:24 | bobdaduck | in shipweapons.cpp |
| 00:32:37 | raptor | can you make a pastie? |
| 00:32:42 | Watusimoto | ok, bed time. |
| 00:32:50 | bobdaduck | WeaponInfo( StringTableEntry("Triple"), 900, 40000, 40000, 550, 850, 0.25f, true, false, ProjectileTriple ), |
| 00:32:54 | Watusimoto | nighty night |
| 00:33:02 | bobdaduck | case WeaponTriple: // Add three bullets! { Point velPerp(projVel.y, -projVel.x); velPerp.normalize(200.0f); (new Projectile(weapon, firePos, projVel + velPerp, shooter))->addToGame(shooter->getGame()); (new Projectile(weapon, firePos, projVel - velPerp, shooter))->addToGame(shooter->getGame()); velPerp.normalize(400.0f); (new Projectile(weapon, firePo |
| 00:33:23 | raptor | flood protection lost a lot of that |
| 00:33:25 | bobdaduck | granted, my source is totally broken right now and I can't make sure that's the code |
| 00:33:34 | raptor | use http://pastie.org |
| 00:34:00 | bobdaduck | http://pastie.org/4729412 |
| 00:34:21 | bobdaduck | I only modified two chunks, that I recall |
| 00:34:27 | raptor | good |
| 00:34:32 | raptor | i can adapt that |
| 00:35:05 | bobdaduck | I dunno if that'll work. |
| 00:35:08 | bobdaduck | I might have changed more. |
| 00:35:31 | bobdaduck | Somewhere in the code I probably replaced "triple" with "shotgun" |
| 00:35:32 | bobdaduck | xD |
| 00:35:42 | raptor | 9? |
| 00:35:48 | sam686 | 6 bullets is not really called a Triple, more like DualTriple.... |
| 00:35:57 | raptor | 9 or 6? |
| 00:36:21 | bobdaduck | I didn't want to break any code so I didn't modify the variable names or nothin' |
| 00:36:24 | bobdaduck | I DON'T KNOW |
| 00:36:32 | raptor | heh |
| 00:36:33 | bobdaduck | This might be a different version with less bullets. |
| 00:36:53 | bobdaduck | when I try to run it I get all kinds of linking errors. |
| 00:38:01 | bobdaduck | In the lua/robots/UI stuff. So I didn't bother trying to fix them xD |
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| 00:39:14 | sam686 | linking error... on which HG revision, and is it modified / which was modified? using Visual 2010 or Visual C++ 2008? |
| 00:39:26 | bobdaduck | Sometime next week I'll probably want someone to help me get the code working again, I forgot how. |
| 00:39:46 | bobdaduck | on the 015 build revision, silly. |
| 00:39:52 | sam686 | linking errors probably means you didn't include all the needed .cpp files |
| 00:40:09 | bobdaduck | http://pastie.org/4729429 |
| 00:40:12 | raptor | yeah, i'd drop 015 |
| 00:40:20 | raptor | i'll adapt it in a bit... |
| 00:40:21 | bobdaduck | Last time I worked with the source. |
| 00:40:52 | bobdaduck | After that the way of downloading it (used to be tortoise svn or some such, now its different) changed and I never learned how. |
| 00:41:35 | raptor | get tortoiseHG |
| 00:41:36 | sam686 | you could Zip all the files in the Zap directory and send it to us to look at it? |
| 00:41:41 | raptor | nah |
| 00:41:53 | raptor | his pastie is perfect |
| 00:42:21 | sam686 | if that pastie is only thing changed, then nevermind sending the entire files |
| 00:42:32 | bobdaduck | It was a really easy mod. |
| 00:42:44 | bobdaduck | If I got a new copy of the current source, it'd be fairly easy to redo it. |
| 00:43:17 | bobdaduck | Anyway I gotta go. |
| 00:43:23 | raptor | get tortoiseHG to get the soy\urce now |
| 00:43:29 | raptor | source |
| 00:43:42 | bobdaduck | Unknown is waiting on me to go to his party xD |
| 00:43:49 | bobdaduck | I'll figure it out next week or something. |
| 00:43:59 | raptor | ok cool |
| 00:44:02 | sam686 | after installing turtoiseHG, right click, and tortoiuseHG, Clone, and paste the URL in the source |
| 00:44:09 | raptor | and send the energy code too |
| 00:44:19 | bobdaduck | I'll have him send it to someone on the forums. |
| 00:44:20 | bobdaduck | that work? |
| 00:44:38 | raptor | yep |
| 00:44:50 | sam686 | if the attachment too big, you need a place to upload... |
| 00:44:51 | bobdaduck | I'll have him send it to you shortly. |
| 00:44:55 | raptor | cool |
| 00:45:00 | bobdaduck | Heck he could send it as plain text. |
| 00:45:17 | bobdaduck | Anyway he'll figure it out. |
| 00:45:22 | bobdaduck | keep an eye on your inbox. |
| 00:45:26 | bobdaduck | ANYWAY SEEYAL |
| 00:46:03 | raptor | bye |
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| 00:49:25 | raptor | i'm still not completely sold on the shotgun idea - seems like it'd make cloakers too powerful... |
| 00:51:51 | sam686 | In another thought, more shooter game use the word "Shotgun" instead of "Triple" |
| 00:54:08 | sam686 | Almost reminds me of cloak in Battletanks, A giant player machine who used cloaked squish a tiny player machine.. |
| 00:54:25 | raptor | haha |
| 01:21:05 | raptor | ok taking a break, i'll be back later |
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| 03:52:44 | | BFLogBot - Commit 7f3a3adb656a | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fixed Turret kill score on Team Bitmatch. |
| 03:52:45 | | BFLogBot - Commit 2cda77b64ab6 | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix CoreGameType Scoring, no more Negative, only count how many are left per team. |
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| 06:04:48 | raptor | hi sam686, i saw your Core change |
| 06:05:17 | sam686 | Notices anything different on the wiki running bug list? |
| 06:05:38 | raptor | ha! |
| 06:05:42 | raptor | looks good! |
| 06:05:57 | sam686 | a small style change on bitfighter.css is all it took.. |
| 06:06:23 | raptor | i like it |
| 06:06:26 | raptor | much nicer to read |
| 06:06:53 | raptor | on the Core change you made: I don't think the scoring handles neutral/hostile Cores? |
| 06:07:05 | raptor | which should be added to every ones score |
| 06:07:13 | sam686 | it doesn't, it only counts on what ever is left |
| 06:07:38 | sam686 | it makes less confusing on looking at bottom right vs score board |
| 06:08:19 | sam686 | we still use the individual player scores for game reports / player reports |
| 06:09:15 | raptor | sorry, i mean the team score |
| 06:09:17 | sam686 | I don't think http://bitfighter.org/stats/stats.php even reads any of Team score, Team stats.. |
| 06:09:28 | raptor | i don't htink so either |
| 06:09:56 | raptor | but i mean, the neutral/hostile Cores should be added to the team score of everyone (I think that's how it used to be done) |
| 06:10:19 | sam686 | Team score don't make much sence, on 017 it is always less then or equal zero |
| 06:10:34 | sam686 | after all, the team with the most score still wins, right? |
| 06:11:16 | sam686 | in Core, game finishes when only one team have core left, and that one team have positive score and others have zero for my changes |
| 06:13:24 | raptor | come test my level with me |
| 06:13:28 | sam686 | ok |
| 06:23:38 | raptor | look at score: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/1screenshot_26.png |
| 06:25:15 | raptor | and ending scoreboard: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/1screenshot_27.png |
| 06:29:37 | sam686 | ok, the Core score problem should be fixed, commited / pushed |
| 06:33:01 | | BFLogBot - Commit 179590c6fd3a | Author: sam8641 | Log: Fix client side shouldn't change score, desyncing score with server. |
| 06:38:42 | sam686 | good night.. |
| 06:38:45 | raptor | ok good night |
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| 07:18:06 | | BFLogBot - Commit 8071fb71f741 | Author: sam8641 | Log: Add Core checks in editor, each team need to have one or more cores. |
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| 18:46:26 | raptor | ok ok |
| 18:46:28 | raptor | soooo.... |
| 18:47:01 | raptor | energy recharge |
| 18:47:11 | raptor | i'm about to code a radical change |
| 18:51:30 | sam686 | I think the compiler get confused in this C++ template case: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/text1209/120916_13-09-58.txt |
| 18:51:59 | sam686 | the "greater then" sign conflicts when template closing sign.. |
| 18:53:16 | raptor | ha |
| 18:53:25 | raptor | that's confusing just to look at |
| 19:01:18 | Watusimoto | so I found this note sitting in a stack of papers hastily shuffled together before my trip to the US |
| 19:01:29 | Watusimoto | it says "levelgens subscribing broken" |
| 19:01:42 | Watusimoto | so... I guess the issue last night was a known bug! |
| 19:01:46 | raptor | yes, i'd say that that is informative |
| 19:11:22 | raptor | I'm starting to wonder about the utility of declaring enums and static const U32/S32 in headers: every change triggers a recompile of more classes than needed |
| 19:22:47 | raptor | all right |
| 19:23:06 | raptor | i'm about to commit the energy 'rechargeidlecycle' |
| 19:23:22 | raptor | (recharge super fast after 2 seconds of idle |
| 19:24:41 | raptor | any objections? |
| 19:27:52 | raptor | forever hold your peace.... |
| 19:28:04 | sam686 | idle to recharge energy kindof makes more players sit and idle instead of battle, expecially on ctf |
| 19:28:48 | sam686 | oh and, faster repair of your turrets.. |
| 19:29:18 | raptor | well... Watusimoto said to try it... |
| 19:29:31 | raptor | easy revert if it's horrible... |
| 19:29:41 | sam686 | maybe, not sure how it will play out... |
| 19:29:57 | Watusimoto | if it's fast enough, it will not delay people too much |
| 19:30:07 | Watusimoto | but if it does encourage laziness, then we'll have to axe it |
| 19:30:31 | raptor | ok |
| 19:30:34 | raptor | the deed is done |
| 19:32:56 | raptor | what about bobdaduck's idea of turning triple into 6 bullets, and it would be a one hit kill if you are at point blank range? |
| 19:33:57 | sam686 | one hit kill is kindof too easy for cloakers... |
| 19:34:09 | | BFLogBot - Commit 513da1d8c24b | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: If ship is completely idle, recharge energy at a faster rate after a short pause |
| 19:34:45 | raptor | yeah - he kept insisting that it was still hard for cloakers because point-blank was difficult with the spread he gave the bullets |
| 19:34:49 | sam686 | kindof like on Battletanks, a giant machine who cloaked is too easy to squish another player's tiny machine, unless you look at the other screen in a split screen multiplayer... |
| 19:35:01 | raptor | ha |
| 19:38:47 | sam686 | well, maybe it might be fun with more bullets, but more damage up to one hit kill, maybe if the "Shotgun" instead of "Triple" fires slower.. |
| 19:40:50 | raptor | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/screenshot_29.png |
| 19:40:51 | raptor | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/screenshot_30.png |
| 19:41:00 | raptor | ^^ that is the spread he's talking about |
| 19:41:25 | raptor | and yes, it fires about once a second |
| 19:43:07 | sam686 | Maybe it is worth making that a new "Shotgun" weapon and then maybe deside whether or not to keep Triple weapon.. |
| 19:45:35 | sam686 | Since We have a player report that can read weapon stats, we can see who uses it by how much, if we have both Triple and Shutgon.. |
| 19:50:09 | raptor | well, i haven't even heard Watusimoto's opinion if we should even try a weapon like that... |
| 19:50:47 | Watusimoto | 6 shot triple seems kind of... excessive |
| 19:51:16 | raptor | the purpose is a shot-gun like weapon that can only kill at point blank range (with 1 shot) |
| 19:52:03 | raptor | i'm still not sold on the idea - bobdaduck things triple and bouncer are completely useless |
| 19:52:06 | Watusimoto | why not have a weapon whose power drops with range |
| 19:52:07 | raptor | *thinks |
| 19:52:17 | Watusimoto | triple is underused, that's for sure |
| 19:52:17 | raptor | Watusimoto: good idea! |
| 19:52:30 | raptor | it could only be a couple shots |
| 19:52:39 | raptor | or one bullet |
| 19:52:49 | raptor | power drops with time it's been alive |
| 19:52:50 | Watusimoto | I also have an idea for a "reverse repair" that works without aiming as long as an enemy is within range |
| 19:53:07 | raptor | reverse repair? is that a weapon |
| 19:53:13 | Watusimoto | could be, yes |
| 19:53:28 | Watusimoto | it would work much like repair does, attacking all targets within range |
| 19:53:30 | raptor | oh, health drain |
| 19:53:34 | Watusimoto | but with a very short range |
| 19:54:06 | Watusimoto | that would be my choice for a next weapon |
| 19:54:36 | Watusimoto | maybe a weapon that reduces with range could be called fireball, and could be a large projectile that gets smaller as it goes |
| 19:54:41 | Watusimoto | showing its reduced power |
| 19:54:49 | raptor | are we still considering releasing heatseeker? |
| 19:55:08 | Watusimoto | I haven't tried it yet; but if it works well, then we could try it for a release |
| 19:55:34 | Watusimoto | I am hoping to have a relateively short cycle btwn 018 and 019, where I could do more lua that I am not going to get done for 018 |
| 19:55:37 | sam686 | HeatSeeker appears to work quite well, but doesn't look good with just a red sideways triangle |
| 19:55:51 | raptor | my triangle feels mocked |
| 19:56:10 | Watusimoto | my son wants it to be a purple icoseles triangle with white flames and (perhaps) white sparks radiating outward like a ships wake |
| 19:56:24 | raptor | heh |
| 19:56:33 | raptor | and what does your son's father think of that design? |
| 19:56:35 | Watusimoto | well, the sparks are my idea |
| 19:56:39 | Watusimoto | as good as any |
| 19:56:58 | raptor | where would the flames go? |
| 19:57:03 | Watusimoto | just out the back |
| 19:57:09 | raptor | ah ok |
| 19:57:26 | Watusimoto | I was thinking it could be a flickering type flame, varying btween longer and shorter to give it an animated look |
| 19:57:34 | Watusimoto | but never very long |
| 19:58:04 | Watusimoto | do heatseekers give a sense of mayhem? |
| 19:58:19 | Watusimoto | or, I should ask, do they feel fun? |
| 19:59:03 | Watusimoto | oh heck, should we try it? |
| 19:59:04 | raptor | oh yeah |
| 19:59:10 | raptor | with our latest modifications |
| 19:59:19 | Watusimoto | I'll compile and take a look |
| 19:59:43 | raptor | let me know when done - i'll join you |
| 19:59:51 | Watusimoto | ok, well, you can't! |
| 19:59:58 | raptor | errr.. i'll host? |
| 19:59:59 | Watusimoto | unless you start a server |
| 20:00:12 | Watusimoto | didn't we try with you hosting and that didn't work either? |
| 20:00:24 | raptor | i think i worked... |
| 20:00:31 | | raptor doesn't really remember |
| 20:00:51 | Watusimoto | well, i'll let you know when i'm built |
| 20:01:05 | raptor | ok |
| 20:01:07 | Watusimoto | what did you do to make it fun? |
| 20:01:13 | Watusimoto | tighter turn? |
| 20:01:19 | raptor | slightly, yes |
| 20:01:25 | raptor | let me look again.. |
| 20:02:06 | raptor | more damage, requires more energy, turns a bit sharper, targets a little more than 180 degrees |
| 20:02:15 | Watusimoto | great |
| 20:02:27 | raptor | the targetting change made it a lot more fun |
| 20:02:36 | Watusimoto | really? |
| 20:02:37 | Watusimoto | good |
| 20:02:51 | raptor | oh, and gave it a smarter brain - it won't target a ship with a wall in the way |
| 20:03:03 | Watusimoto | that's good |
| 20:03:15 | Watusimoto | what happens if it hits a wall? |
| 20:03:19 | raptor | kaboom |
| 20:03:23 | Watusimoto | good |
| 20:03:28 | raptor | still point damage though |
| 20:03:42 | raptor | oh, and sam added bounce off of shields |
| 20:03:48 | Watusimoto | ok, lookd built |
| 20:03:48 | raptor | it'll bounce off and retarget... |
| 20:04:12 | Watusimoto | want to start your server? |
| 20:04:30 | raptor | started |
| 20:04:32 | raptor | 69.169... |
| 20:14:35 | Watusimoto | I think that looks pretty good |
| 20:14:50 | Watusimoto | I want to playtest with my kids to see how it feels on a non-laggy connection |
| 20:15:11 | sam686 | you could host and I can join.. |
| 20:15:13 | Watusimoto | I *think* I like the sit to recharge; we'll see how it looks with more playtesting |
| 20:15:35 | Watusimoto | I can't host here -- I'm behind some sort of double-NAT that blocks everything |
| 20:15:42 | sam686 | you might make me lag of you host (like a handicap), but I am better at playing bitfightyer |
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| 20:16:01 | Watusimoto | ha, yes, you are much better :-) |
| 20:16:18 | Watusimoto | I think I am one of the worse players out there! |
| 20:16:26 | Watusimoto | I should be the best |
| 20:16:58 | sam686 | I can still join, because of punch through firewall.. |
| 20:17:23 | Watusimoto | bet you can't... I'll start a server |
| 20:17:24 | sam686 | and my client is port forwarded which helps successful punch through firewall.. |
| 20:18:34 | Watusimoto | hosting |
| 20:18:53 | sam686 | password... |
| 20:19:15 | sam686 | i can connect, but I get a password prompt to connect |
| 20:19:16 | | BFLogBot - Commit c8639acd647b | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Enum documentation working, at least in one case |
| 20:19:17 | Watusimoto | really? |
| 20:19:17 | | BFLogBot - Commit a585b72a6a67 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 20:19:21 | sam686 | yes |
| 20:19:46 | Watusimoto | ok, now no pw |
| 20:19:56 | Watusimoto | holy crap!!! |
| 20:19:58 | Watusimoto | you did it! |
| 20:23:29 | Watusimoto | oh oh |
| 20:23:45 | Watusimoto | hit this: |
| 20:23:46 | Watusimoto | TNLAssert(false, "Unknown Damage type"); |
| 20:24:09 | sam686 | I added that, i didn't think that will trigger... |
| 20:24:30 | Watusimoto | typeNumber is DeletedTypeNumber |
| 20:25:07 | Watusimoto | I guess if that happens we should just return, eh? |
| 20:25:15 | Watusimoto | I'll add an explicit check for it |
| 20:26:17 | Watusimoto | it's good that you added that assert |
| 20:26:24 | Watusimoto | that's a textbook case of why they are good |
| 20:28:10 | Watusimoto | and I also triggered a condition I thought would never trigger... |
| 20:28:22 | Watusimoto | an unknown key press |
| 20:28:55 | sam686 | unless I get a full stack trace, i might be able to see what caused it.. |
| 20:29:21 | | BFLogBot - Commit c992418f3f79 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Added check to prevent assert from firing |
| 20:32:35 | Watusimoto | I know how to retrigger it; the volume key on my laptop |
| 20:32:47 | Watusimoto | so I'll try to add an explicit check for it so as to ignore it |
| 20:48:05 | sam686 | Found a more proper fix, it was caused by the HeatSeeker::handleCollision being run WHILE it has already been exploded. |
| 20:48:16 | sam686 | easy fix, if(exploded) return; |
| 21:04:25 | | BFLogBot - Commit 4938cdfc27a2 | Author: sam8641 | Log: More correct fix to fix assert triggering, "Unknown Damage type" |
| 21:09:53 | Watusimoto | sam686: like your fix. Could other projectiles (e.g. bursts) have the same problem? |
| 21:14:27 | | BFLogBot - Commit 52c499b056f5 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Remove warnings when volume keys pressed... probably want to add others to this list! |
| 21:14:29 | | BFLogBot - Commit f4a548cb3c7e | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Improved enum documentation, now proven to work for more than one enum; proved that linking to enums now works |
| 21:14:30 | | BFLogBot - Commit 4474aa118e2e | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 21:18:54 | sam686 | I think no other projectile can send Damage on a deletedType |
| 21:19:43 | sam686 | and my fix on HeatSeekerProjectile probably stops the problem |
| 21:20:25 | sam686 | I add hundreds of bots and HeatSeeker shooting turrets to test if the problem is there |
| 21:28:40 | sam686 | BurstProjectile::explode already have if(exploded) return; and Projectile is different, Projectile can colloide / damage Object, but object cannot collide Projectile (if the Projectile::idle is skipped, objects will basically go through Projectile) |
| 21:34:34 | | BFLogBot - Commit 54aa88688db9 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Lua docs now show return values properly |
| 21:39:35 | | BFLogBot - Commit a27b797461f7 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Hide unneeded item on docs TOC |
| 21:43:13 | raptor | hi |
| 21:43:17 | raptor | back |
| 21:44:01 | raptor | work is being done! |
| 21:47:34 | raptor | uncompilable! |
| 22:01:09 | sam686 | uncompilable? The only changes seem to be the comments mostly, and adding of SDLK_VOLUMEUP keys as an ignore... |
| 22:01:24 | raptor | pushed a fix |
| 22:02:45 | sam686 | pulled a fix |
| 22:04:39 | | BFLogBot - Commit 0c3a494c4e6b | Author: buckyballreaction | Log: Fix compiling if using SDL 1.2 |
| 22:14:55 | raptor | so Watusimoto, what did you think of heat seeker? |
| 22:15:18 | Watusimoto | I think I like it, but need to test with my kids to know for sure |
| 22:15:30 | Watusimoto | I liked shooting sam around a corner |
| 22:16:41 | raptor | :) |
| 22:16:53 | sam686 | That is kind of a strange keyboard problem, ctrl + num-lock gets detected as "pause" in bitfighter SDL 2.0... |
| 22:16:54 | Watusimoto | i also liked the rest to refuel |
| 22:17:22 | raptor | ok |
| 22:17:36 | Watusimoto | but i want to do a little more playtesting |
| 22:17:41 | raptor | yes |
| 22:18:04 | raptor | maybe i'll work on heatseeker graphics |
| 22:18:13 | raptor | purple triangle, right? |
| 22:28:28 | raptor | should heat seeker have a radius? |
| 22:29:20 | sam686 | yes, kindof a small radius |
| 22:29:34 | raptor | ok, so not zero like the others? |
| 22:29:56 | sam686 | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/3screenshot_2.png |
| 22:30:17 | raptor | hahaha |
| 22:30:43 | raptor | i can't tell if you actually coded that or just added that in after the screenshot |
| 22:31:04 | sam686 | HeatSeeker_Radius = 7 |
| 22:31:46 | sam686 | http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/text1209/120916_17-09-33.txt |
| 22:31:57 | sam686 | I just added one, maybe 2 lines for that effect |
| 22:32:21 | sam686 | will be back on about 30 minutes.. |
| 22:32:24 | raptor | ok |
| 22:36:29 | raptor | another thing you need to play test, Watusimoto, is the sensor module (incl. against spybug, mines, cloaked ships) |
| 22:36:57 | Watusimoto | yes, thanks |
| 22:37:06 | Watusimoto | the color I imaagine is more a magentish purple |
| 22:37:38 | Watusimoto | heat seeker should have a radius, but I don;t know what it shoudl be. Other projectiles have an aribitrary radius of, I think, 10 |
| 22:37:51 | Watusimoto | the others have 0? |
| 22:37:54 | raptor | yes |
| 22:38:00 | raptor | burst is 10, i think |
| 22:38:24 | Watusimoto | give it whatever width the triangle is in the back, and make a comment that it is totally arbitrary at this point |
| 22:38:33 | Watusimoto | to be honest, I think it is utterly unused |
| 22:39:23 | raptor | it can hit walls when doing targetting tests because it has a radius and the target test is a straight line |
| 22:42:23 | Watusimoto | interesting |
| 22:42:29 | Watusimoto | maybe we should give it 0 then |
| 22:42:34 | Watusimoto | let it fly right along walls |
| 22:42:59 | raptor | do i need to do a glPushMatrix if i glTranslate? |
| 22:48:06 | Watusimoto | maybe :-) |
| 22:53:26 | Watusimoto | yes, probably |
| 22:53:41 | Watusimoto | if you want to undo the transform for subsequent draws |
| 22:54:21 | raptor | ok |
| 22:54:23 | raptor | thanks |
| 22:58:00 | Watusimoto | uploaded the latest docs to http://bitfighter.org/luadocs/index.html |
| 22:58:14 | Watusimoto | added an enums section, and docs for engineered item |
| 22:58:35 | Watusimoto | params and return vals are properly shown |
| 22:58:41 | raptor | ooooo |
| 22:58:43 | Watusimoto | feedback welcome |
| 23:02:03 | raptor | looks good |
| 23:03:52 | raptor | i cannot seem to get the correct angle for heat seeker |
| 23:05:54 | raptor | oh, haha |
| 23:05:59 | raptor | glRotatef takes degrees |
| 23:13:59 | Watusimoto | lovely! |
| 23:15:10 | Watusimoto | found a weird bug: you are engineering a teleporter, the level ends, and you've been idle for a while. You get locked out of the game |
| 23:15:22 | raptor | weird |
| 23:15:25 | Watusimoto | oh wait, <esc> frees you! |
| 23:15:32 | Watusimoto | lets you play again |
| 23:16:25 | raptor | i give you, isoceles magenta trianlge!: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/4screenshot_2.png |
| 23:17:40 | raptor | now to add flames |
| 23:17:55 | raptor | if ESC frees you, then it's stuck in the teleport thingy |
| 23:17:59 | Watusimoto | looks great! |
| 23:18:03 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 23:18:19 | Watusimoto | I would make it about 15% redder, but that's a trivial quibble |
| 23:18:28 | raptor | uhhh |
| 23:18:36 | raptor | so reduce blue, ok |
| 23:18:45 | Watusimoto | probably when level changes, you should exit any helpers |
| 23:18:52 | Watusimoto | magenta = 0,1,1? |
| 23:19:24 | raptor | 10,01 |
| 23:19:27 | raptor | 1,0,1 |
| 23:20:40 | Watusimoto | so redder = 1.2, 0, 1, no? |
| 23:20:48 | raptor | nothing greater than 1... |
| 23:20:52 | Watusimoto | 10,0,1 is way too red! |
| 23:21:07 | Watusimoto | that might burn out the red on my monitor |
| 23:21:19 | Watusimoto | possibly injure my eyes |
| 23:21:42 | Watusimoto | (yes, I know...) |
| 23:22:23 | Watusimoto | wow... actually writing some code... it feels good! |
| 23:22:49 | raptor | haha |
| 23:24:00 | Watusimoto | should you be able to kill a teleporter while it is being engineered |
| 23:24:01 | Watusimoto | ? |
| 23:24:09 | raptor | yes |
| 23:24:15 | Watusimoto | can you? |
| 23:24:18 | raptor | yes |
| 23:24:25 | Watusimoto | good |
| 23:24:37 | raptor | yes |
| 23:24:47 | | BFLogBot - Commit aa361466030e | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Change method name |
| 23:24:49 | | BFLogBot - Commit 8045888870ee | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Change method name |
| 23:24:50 | | BFLogBot - Commit 2f6480ffe913 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Add some missing Lua methods, document everything |
| 23:24:52 | | BFLogBot - Commit b61c506213f3 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Don't render teleporters with no destinations (now possible with scipting) |
| 23:24:53 | | BFLogBot - Commit 816bd5f50f99 | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Can no longer activate teleporters with no destination (most important while engineering a teleporter) |
| 23:24:55 | | BFLogBot - Commit 574dfae2f69d | Author: watusim...@bitfighter.org | Log: Merge |
| 23:29:50 | raptor | i gotta say - i really like coding with all three of us working together at the same time |
| 23:30:56 | raptor | seems more fun |
| 23:38:19 | Watusimoto | yes, it is nice |
| 23:38:27 | Watusimoto | too bad it is close to bedtime |
| 23:40:19 | raptor | i'd say in 2 years we can move to c++11! |
| 23:40:32 | raptor | maybe... |
| 23:40:42 | raptor | if we wan't to drop support for ppc mac |
| 23:49:56 | sam686 | ppc mac aren't being updated anymore... Any ppc computer might as well use a more updated linux instead.. |
| 23:51:02 | Watusimoto | do we want to rename engineeredItem to, say, mountableItem? |
| 23:51:10 | Watusimoto | is that a better description of what they are? |
| 23:51:17 | raptor | no |
| 23:51:27 | raptor | you mean resourceitem -> mountableitem? |
| 23:51:39 | sam686 | A lot of players still call it engineer, with the "Engineer Module" |
| 23:53:01 | raptor | fmales!: http://sam686.maxhushahn.com/upload/3screenshot_12.png |
| 23:53:05 | raptor | uh.. flames! |
| 23:53:19 | raptor | (also is the magenta red enough?) |
| 23:53:56 | raptor | dinner! brb |
| 23:54:12 | sam686 | A tiny triangle is kind of hard to see, maybe Heat seeker can have some kind of trail, like ship have trails. |
| 23:54:13 | Watusimoto | No, I mean MountableItem is the parent class of FF projector and turret |
| 23:55:10 | sam686 | it is "EngineeredItem", you say "MountableItem" I might think of "EngineerableItem" |
| 23:56:42 | sam686 | Will be back in about 15 minutes.. |
