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| 00:03:42 | amginea123456 | sam will you help me with somthing im working on raptor said your good with bots |
| 00:05:27 | sam686 | well i can try |
| 00:51:16 | amginea123456 | sam/ |
| 00:51:24 | sam686 | ?? |
| 00:59:03 | amginea123456 | i dont have it im doing somthing wrong.... |
| 00:59:38 | amginea123456 | http://pastie.org/4899952 |
| 01:00:25 | amginea123456 | maybe you can see what im doing wrong |
| 01:07:02 | amginea123456 | or somone |
| 01:07:11 | sam686 | it may help to see more lines of code... |
| 01:11:56 | amginea123456 | thats the only section i edited but ill show you a lkarger chunk |
| 01:13:16 | amginea123456 | http://pastie.org/4900063 |
| 01:13:30 | amginea123456 | i was trying to do what you said to do |
| 03:07:49 | amginea123456 | random questioon how do you make poly sided goal zones |
| 03:11:59 | amginea123456 | apperntly you cant what i want to be able to do is right click and it will draw either a a poly sided custom wall or b a poly sided loadout zone based on which is selcted wanted for version 18 thanks |
| 03:12:40 | amginea123456 | and or have loadout zones automaticly be behind walls |
| 03:18:36 | amginea123456 | or c have loadout zones optionaly be in front of or bhind the wall (prefered) |
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| 03:33:25 | raptor | now to clean up several ifdefs... |
| 03:34:34 | | BFLogBot Commit: 65c2e464af67 | Author: koda | Message: small fixes for TNL_OS_MOBILE and TNL_OS_IPHONE compilation |
| 03:34:36 | | BFLogBot Commit: 39df26d13721 | Author: koda | Message: added initial ios project files and libs |
| 03:34:37 | | BFLogBot Commit: 187518efc361 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Merge koda's iOS work |
| 03:51:20 | amginea123456 | can you do some stuff i would like to see in versions 18 |
| 03:51:47 | raptor | possibly, but probably not since we are close to release |
| 03:51:59 | amginea123456 | oops i ment 19 not 18 |
| 03:53:45 | amginea123456 | is it possible to make it so you can draw custom shaped loadout and gaol zones lioke you do walls based on what you have selected 2 have the option of having those zones behind or in front of the walls |
| 03:54:06 | raptor | loadout/goal zones are already polygon-based |
| 03:54:15 | raptor | you can move the vertices to however you want |
| 03:54:19 | raptor | and add vertices |
| 03:55:16 | raptor | having the zones in-front or behind would be a new feature and may take significant coding. If you want that as a feature request, then please add it to the forums |
| 04:07:34 | amginea123456 | how do you add sides to the zones? |
| 04:07:50 | raptor | right-click in the middle of one of the edge lines |
| 04:07:56 | raptor | it should add a vertex |
| 04:09:51 | amginea123456 | doesnt that do wall though? |
| 04:10:07 | raptor | yes, but if you're over a zone edge, it'll add a vertex |
| 04:20:28 | | BFLogBot Commit: 419b81e7a3cc | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Some TNL platform clean-up. Removed __IPHONEOS__ from TNL as that is only required to build SDL, add that to the iOS SDL project instead |
| 05:06:29 | amginea123456 | there should be BF for iphone and and andoird i would so play it on the go get you popuklatiuon would grwo 100 fold if oyu did that |
| 05:07:11 | raptor | well, we're all doing this work for free so it may take a while for iOS or Android to appear... |
| 05:09:16 | | BFLogBot Commit: 8f6e280d1a5e | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Add macros BF_NO_CONSOLE and BF_NO_SCREENSHOTS for exclusion of the in-game console and screenshots. Mobile platforms have these turned off for now |
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| 05:37:19 | amginea123456 | whats bf log bot |
| 05:37:44 | raptor | it's an IRC bot I wrote to help out a bit with development in the channel |
| 05:40:39 | amginea123456 | so it says when you do somthing? |
| 05:41:01 | raptor | it logs the IRC channel so we can go back and read anything we've missed |
| 05:41:17 | amginea123456 | ah i see |
| 05:41:17 | raptor | it also detects when code commits are made |
| 05:41:42 | amginea123456 | btw @ = admin + = ?? ( like sam686 has when hes here) |
| 05:41:54 | raptor | it means 'has voice' |
| 05:41:59 | amginea123456 | ah ok |
| 05:42:15 | raptor | so if an admin restricts talking in the channel, only those with 'has voice' can talk |
| 05:42:27 | amginea123456 | tw the ctrl + / command is missing from the instrucions list..... |
| 05:42:43 | amginea123456 | in the game |
| 05:42:43 | raptor | ok, thanks i'll write that down... |
| 05:43:21 | amginea123456 | no problem just tyring to help out. |
| 05:45:24 | amginea123456 | what does query do |
| 05:45:29 | amginea123456 | is that like pm? |
| 05:47:31 | raptor | not sure, i think so |
| 05:50:46 | amginea123456 | btw your own turrets can hurt you hope that get fixed if its shooting osmthing else and you get in its path you can get killed |
| 05:51:01 | raptor | nope, won't get fixed - it's not a bug |
| 05:51:07 | raptor | turrets are supposed to hurt everything |
| 05:51:14 | raptor | but they try not to hit you |
| 05:52:55 | amginea123456 | well arent your own turrets not supossed to hurt you? maybe ill thread it and see what people think if this should be changed |
| 05:53:06 | raptor | they are supposed to hurt you |
| 05:57:17 | | BFLogBot Commit: 1e977c73f9c6 | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Split macro NO_AUDIO into BF_NO_AUDIO and BF_NO_VOICECHAT. Default no voice chat for mobile |
| 05:57:26 | raptor | ok, well i have to go to bed |
| 05:57:32 | raptor | have a goo d night! |
| 05:57:48 | amginea123456 | ye |
| 05:57:55 | amginea123456 | bye |
| 05:57:57 | raptor | wait |
| 05:58:10 | amginea123456 | and i thoought not cause i thought that was what hostile was for |
| 05:58:10 | raptor | what software did you use to do the hacks? and do you have a link for it? |
| 05:58:16 | amginea123456 | yes |
| 05:59:20 | raptor | can you give it to me - i will try to duplicate your hacks |
| 06:00:09 | amginea123456 | i gave you the link in the query |
| 06:00:25 | amginea123456 | but just in case http://cheatengine.org/ hopgully no one else see this and trys it |
| 06:00:35 | amginea123456 | anyways i have to go its midnight here bye |
| 06:00:39 | raptor | bye |
| 06:02:27 | amginea123456 | another one which ive never used ut ive seen is called wpe.exe |
| 06:02:39 | raptor | interesting.. |
| 06:02:43 | raptor | i'll take a look |
| 06:02:46 | raptor | night! |
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| 06:02:58 | amginea123456 | http://www.filecrop.com/WPE.PRO.EXE.html |
| 06:03:40 | amginea123456 | btw theres no lin to the live chat on the wiki and the fourms page |
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| 15:21:58 | raptor | good day! |
| 15:31:20 | watusimoto | hi |
| 15:31:31 | raptor | hi |
| 15:32:22 | watusimoto | trying to send private msg |
| 15:39:50 | raptor | so amgine said something interesting last night |
| 15:40:06 | raptor | he said he used this software: http://cheatengine.org/ |
| 15:40:16 | raptor | to cheat on a non-hosted game |
| 15:40:46 | raptor | i.e. he wasn't hosting; but, he says he was able to perform an instant victory on nexus |
| 15:41:23 | watusimoto | interesting |
| 15:41:28 | watusimoto | if so, we have a bug |
| 15:41:40 | raptor | haven't tested yet - the site looks dubious, and i want to set up a VM to test... |
| 15:42:04 | watusimoto | I think it lets you tweak a variable; all we need to know is what amginea twekaed |
| 15:42:14 | watusimoto | then we can test with direct source code manipulation |
| 15:42:55 | raptor | yes |
| 15:43:20 | watusimoto | interesting |
| 15:43:24 | raptor | he wasn't sure if it should be kept private, but i told him we're open source so it was good to just share here |
| 15:43:38 | watusimoto | he shouldn't keep it private from us! |
| 15:43:46 | watusimoto | :-) |
| 15:43:49 | raptor | heh |
| 15:44:02 | raptor | yeah... how dare those developers cheat! |
| 15:44:54 | raptor | i think that if i were to cheat, other players would still be able to beat me at the game... |
| 15:45:11 | watusimoto | same here |
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| 15:51:48 | raptor | maybe i should code in if(username == "raptor") enableGodMode(); |
| 15:52:24 | watusimoto | I've considered the same |
| 15:52:52 | raptor | !bug |
| 15:52:52 | BFLogBot | To enter a bug, please make sure it is reproducible and then go to http://code.google.com/p/bitfighter/issues/list | Also, see current running bug list: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List |
| 15:53:13 | raptor | #48 on that list ^^... I *know* we've fixed that before |
| 15:53:33 | watusimoto | well, maybe its fixed in 018 |
| 15:53:41 | raptor | i mean for like 015a |
| 15:54:02 | watusimoto | I saw that was one of the ways that amginea was being irked |
| 15:54:34 | raptor | really? interesting... |
| 15:54:45 | watusimoto | it was kind of annoying from a dev pov |
| 15:54:58 | watusimoto | anyway, easy enough to refix |
| 15:57:04 | watusimoto | so what bots do you have that need to be fixed that you want to include with the release (if any)? |
| 15:57:20 | raptor | well s_bot |
| 15:57:26 | watusimoto | seems to be working |
| 15:57:29 | raptor | maybe orbitbot |
| 15:57:34 | watusimoto | probably broken |
| 15:57:38 | raptor | the standard examples should be fine... |
| 15:57:40 | watusimoto | I'll fix that and eliza |
| 15:57:51 | raptor | ok |
| 15:58:55 | watusimoto | added them to the todo list |
| 15:59:25 | watusimoto | do we want ot fix shaky cmdr map? |
| 15:59:30 | raptor | nah |
| 15:59:37 | watusimoto | the fix would be to ease it in and out |
| 15:59:55 | raptor | yeah, but howmany time do people go out of the extents? |
| 16:00:03 | raptor | *how many times |
| 16:00:04 | watusimoto | I do all the time! |
| 16:00:24 | raptor | during a normal walled level? |
| 16:00:39 | raptor | well in testing, i do too... :) |
| 16:00:57 | raptor | like during the BBB was there ever a possible instance of being able to go out of extents? |
| 16:03:31 | watusimoto | not with bounded level |
| 16:05:12 | raptor | don't get me wrong - i think it should be fixed. i'm just ready to release.. |
| 16:05:19 | watusimoto | yes |
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| 16:26:34 | watusimoto | oh hi, looks like I'm on! |
| 16:27:07 | raptor | hi watusimoto/Watusimoto_ |
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| 18:49:26 | raptor | argh |
| 18:49:41 | raptor | i'm dealing with message-based encryption within SOAP APIs |
| 18:52:40 | Watusimoto | well I'm trying to fill out my ballot... who the heck are these guys running for the East Multnomah Soil and Water Conservation District??? |
| 18:55:49 | Watusimoto | I've concluded that for the elections where the outcome is preordiained, I should vote 3rd party |
| 18:55:54 | raptor | you should go meet them |
| 18:56:09 | raptor | yes, i think i mostly agree with that... |
| 18:57:22 | Watusimoto | maybe they'll campaign in Luxembourg? |
| 18:57:47 | Watusimoto | you can probably vote for anyone -- you are effectively disenfranchised in Utah |
| 18:58:08 | Watusimoto | Obama or Romney... Utah... tough call which way that will go |
| 18:58:33 | raptor | heh |
| 18:59:09 | raptor | there are loads of Ron Paul supporters here |
| 18:59:47 | Watusimoto | not nearly enough to make one whit of difference |
| 19:03:13 | raptor | Sometimes I wonder if we were to make a bigger effort on elected good local leader, they'd filter up a little more... |
| 19:03:19 | raptor | *electing |
| 19:09:55 | Watusimoto | our method of holding elections is fundamentally flawed, making it nearly impossible for 3rd parties to develop |
| 19:10:03 | raptor | yes i agree |
| 19:10:37 | Watusimoto | I read a book on voting methods, and they concluded the best method was to rate each candidate from 1-10, and pick the one with the hightest average vote |
| 19:10:44 | Watusimoto | the hot-or-not method |
| 19:11:18 | Watusimoto | but it led to the msot people getting a candidate they liked at least somewhat, with lowest potential for monkey business |
| 19:11:31 | Watusimoto | (like dems voting in a republican primary) |
| 19:13:07 | raptor | interesting |
| 19:13:54 | raptor | that sounds like one of a cardinal voting system: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_voting_systems |
| 19:17:49 | raptor | a real problem is the intentional re-districting of states to sway the outcome |
| 19:18:17 | raptor | within the states, i mean |
| 19:33:27 | Watusimoto | yes, that's another issue. should be done by a nonpartisan group |
| 19:33:37 | Watusimoto | districts should NOT be a partisan issue |
| 19:37:15 | Watusimoto | ugh.. the debate is at 3AM here |
| 19:37:24 | Watusimoto | guess what I won;t be watching live |
| 20:11:34 | raptor | the soccer match? |
| 20:32:27 | Watusimoto | debate |
| 20:32:34 | raptor | i don't know if its football season... |
| 20:32:55 | Watusimoto | you've certainly heard of the ref strike |
| 20:33:04 | raptor | no |
| 20:33:35 | raptor | i, uh, am not always in the loop when it comes to sports... |
| 20:33:50 | Watusimoto | you must be joking |
| 20:34:03 | raptor | it was never part of my childhood |
| 20:34:08 | Watusimoto | out of the loop, fine, I understand that completely |
| 20:34:10 | raptor | chess and checkers were, though |
| 20:34:10 | Watusimoto | as I am too |
| 20:34:23 | Watusimoto | but this is the biggest thing in football since... who knows when |
| 20:34:32 | Watusimoto | all over the main news |
| 20:34:41 | Watusimoto | refs went on strike, replacement refs brought in |
| 20:34:47 | raptor | no i mean *really* out of the loop - i don't have a TV and i read mostly from international sites... |
| 20:34:51 | Watusimoto | then a whole series of botched calls |
| 20:35:02 | raptor | for american football? |
| 20:35:03 | Watusimoto | including one that gave the game to the wrong team |
| 20:35:04 | Watusimoto | yes |
| 20:35:06 | | raptor goes to get informed |
| 20:35:51 | raptor | not on BBC... |
| 20:36:56 | Watusimoto | http://www.economist.com/blogs/gametheory/2012/09/officiating-american-football |
| 20:37:02 | Watusimoto | that's international press for sure |
| 20:37:10 | raptor | oh thanks |
| 20:38:54 | raptor | there's a Lingerie League? what on earth... |
| 20:40:36 | raptor | man, being a ref is lucrative |
| 20:41:21 | raptor | (compared to my meager earnings, at least...) |
| 20:41:27 | Watusimoto | yes, it is |
| 20:44:43 | | BFLogBot Commit: 5f67c0c62f8b | Author: watusimoto | Message: Eliza bot working in 018 |
| 20:44:45 | | BFLogBot Commit: 023a95a207f3 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Orbitbot now works with 018 |
| 20:44:46 | | BFLogBot Commit: e4bd164ad418 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Merge |
| 20:55:24 | raptor | orbitbot is back! |
| 21:43:15 | | BFLogBot Commit: a462406c77d7 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Warnings |
| 21:43:16 | | BFLogBot Commit: 4c596931d142 | Author: watusimoto | Message: Bot fixes |
| 21:43:18 | | BFLogBot Commit: 5678d7b4687d | Author: watusimoto | Message: Projectile shooter fixed and updated. Useless against bursts, 100% effective against seekers |
| 21:44:01 | raptor | heh |
| 21:44:09 | raptor | seekerseekerbot |
| 21:46:48 | raptor | AegisBot |
| 21:46:59 | raptor | i've never noticed that before... |
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| 22:57:23 | amginea123456 | <<< is afk |
| 23:00:50 | amginea123456 | aginst my better judgement i forgive clever bot and unanned him |
| 23:00:56 | amginea123456 | unanned |
| 23:01:18 | amginea123456 | unbanned XD i cant type well can i anyways i decieded like 5 seconds after bannign to unan him |
| 23:02:10 | amginea123456 | question why wont it let me save anything in the ini file its not working for me |
| 23:03:04 | raptor | you cannot save the INI when the server is running |
| 23:03:14 | raptor | it will overwrite the changes when it shuts down |
| 23:03:29 | raptor | bitfighter should not be running at all when editing the INI |
| 23:03:56 | amginea123456 | aw ok that exlpins why i tyied un banning him but it didnt work |
| 23:04:50 | raptor | yep |
| 23:05:33 | amginea123456 | btw have you tested that thing from last night yet |
| 23:05:40 | raptor | nope, still at work |
| 23:06:26 | amginea123456 | ah ok btw for fun i edited the ini file and make the walls color black so you cant see them XD = hard |
| 23:07:39 | amginea123456 | makes it fun actully cause oyu have to rememer where everthing is |
| 23:07:55 | amginea123456 | g im losing to the ot right now XD |
| 23:08:00 | amginea123456 | bot |
| 23:08:12 | amginea123456 | dont take it out ever please |
| 23:13:49 | amginea123456 | especilly makes maze racer fun. |
| 23:14:58 | amginea123456 | i am so lost in maze racer right now XD |
| 23:19:13 | Watusimoto | add a bot and follow that |
| 23:19:50 | raptor | ha |
| 23:20:34 | amginea123456 | ide like to see you get thought it XD |
| 23:20:39 | amginea123456 | im so lost |
| 23:21:31 | amginea123456 | deosnt work you lose sight of it to fast |
| 23:22:19 | amginea123456 | lol coem race me if you dare. dont get lost Xd |
| 23:23:58 | amginea123456 | to bad the values only go from black to white no tranparent cause you can still se where the walls are somewhat cause of there not beings starts where a wall is |
| 23:27:56 | amginea123456 | this is way cool |
| 23:28:11 | raptor | ok, heading home - i'll be back in a few hours, later tonight |
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| 23:42:09 | amginea123456 | koda watiismo are you here? |