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| 00:06:40 | sam686 | did you know all windows system since windows 2000 (including windows XP, vista, 7) have msvcrt.dll? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Windows_library_files#Msvcrt.dll_and_Msvcpp.dll |
| 00:07:18 | | iKoda assimilates high doses of caffeine and tries to go to the meeting |
| 00:08:07 | raptor | sam686: yes - and that's why i think we should probably link against it for all of our libraries (eventually) |
| 00:08:21 | raptor | instead of statically compile it |
| 00:08:47 | raptor | but after 018.. |
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| 00:33:39 | kodaws | ok, connecting from a more stable source |
| 00:33:48 | raptor | hi |
| 00:34:30 | raptor | sam686: if you add a teleporter to the editor, and press TAB, does it render for you? |
| 00:41:34 | sam686 | looks like no.. |
| 00:42:32 | amgine123456 | i confirm no also |
| 00:44:44 | amgine123456 | btw when you press f7 it says your name then a number what does the number mean |
| 00:51:24 | raptor | it's the integer representation of you badge mask |
| 00:52:37 | sam686 | As if we almost need to "F1" that destribes what all that stuff on "F7" diagnostics... |
| 00:57:53 | raptor | yeah, f7 is full of stuff |
| 00:58:16 | raptor | maybe we should just render the badges there... |
| 01:04:28 | amgine123456 | no F1 is fine |
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| 01:05:27 | amgine123456 | btw i wanted to test somthing but i couldnt find the version dor downalod in the irc logs where is it? |
| 01:05:41 | amgine123456 | the one sam gave me a few days ago |
| 01:07:49 | amgine123456 | i think being able to engeneer speed zones in teh game would be cool =) |
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| 01:22:31 | amgine123456 | btw I dont know if you ever saw this but i posted it ealier but in the beta verion of 18 i had the ctrl+; wqas missing from teh editor instrucitons and it no longer does anything |
| 01:22:51 | amgine123456 | its the make curves function |
| 01:25:51 | raptor | it is in the instructions, and it works fine |
| 01:25:56 | raptor | look closer |
| 01:26:04 | raptor | and you may not have the scripts set up properly |
| 01:26:31 | amgine123456 | oh and i just relized somthing bots dont sheild from seekers? |
| 01:27:44 | amgine123456 | and i just tried to use the ctrl+; command and the game crashed |
| 01:27:56 | amgine123456 | and btw i was wrong it is there weitd thought i wasnt |
| 01:28:11 | amgine123456 | sorry for that inaccurcy |
| 01:28:35 | amgine123456 | double confirmed the make curves crash |
| 01:29:21 | amgine123456 | of course im using sams version from from the 6th so dunno if its out of date if it is i would like to do osme more testing |
| 01:29:32 | amgine123456 | with a more recent version |
| 01:31:09 | amgine123456 | and the engery gauge still doesnt fill at 100% when you die more like 75% however it does fill up quicly but still |
| 01:33:05 | amgine123456 | umm why are the borders of the cores no longer the team color and white? ( for me anyways) |
| 01:34:23 | amgine123456 | and teles dont show up when you press tab in the editor? |
| 01:48:00 | raptor | amgine123456: please only give bugs if it is against the current 018 version |
| 01:48:56 | raptor | also, since you are doing bug testing (thanks!) please make sure the bug isn't on this list first: http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Running_Bug_List |
| 01:49:12 | raptor | energy guage is done on purpose |
| 01:49:16 | amgine123456 | dont worry this is on veriosn 18 |
| 01:49:27 | raptor | core borders are changed on purpose |
| 01:49:47 | raptor | we already know about the teleports in editor (see bug list above) |
| 01:50:14 | raptor | ctrl + ; works OK for me - you may not have the scripts installed properly |
| 01:52:01 | | raptor goes back to fixing bugs |
| 01:56:17 | amgine123456 | ok after looking at thebn bug list i have confirmed that bots dont sheild from sekers |
| 01:56:35 | amgine123456 | and its not on the list |
| 01:56:54 | raptor | yeah - bots have many bugs |
| 01:57:05 | raptor | but we're probably not going to do too much about it for this release |
| 01:58:17 | raptor | now the crash with ctrl + ; |
| 01:58:18 | amgine123456 | and i dont see any apperent cause for my make curves use crash? |
| 01:58:22 | | BFLogBot Commit: 70bc6fb95f1b | Author: buckyballreaction | Message: Remove console commands dead code, and remove/change relevant help sections |
| 01:58:25 | raptor | game should never crash... |
| 01:59:12 | raptor | hmmm... can't crash yet... |
| 02:00:45 | amgine123456 | btw question what do you mean whwn you say you need a citation for the level bvoting system |
| 02:01:01 | raptor | i don't know what you are talking about |
| 02:01:12 | amgine123456 | in the runniong bug list at hte bottem |
| 02:01:32 | raptor | oh ignore that section |
| 02:01:39 | raptor | just look at the bugs section |
| 02:03:24 | raptor | can't get it to crash... maybe something was fixed recently |
| 02:04:18 | raptor | sam686: good job with mingw - i just got it to compile and run! |
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| 02:05:30 | amgine123456 | dumb question how would i chage the file format of twoplayer.bat to a notepad document type so i can look at he coding? (asumming its not incripted0 |
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| 02:06:09 | raptor | amgine123456: you should install notepad++ |
| 02:06:24 | raptor | and then you can right click on any file and 'open with notepad++' |
| 02:06:51 | raptor | i've never dealt with that .bat file before |
| 02:13:49 | amgine123456 | btw 2 ideas a you engeneer speed zones (probably in version 18a) and 2 ship saves loadout from prevoius level |
| 02:15:29 | raptor | saving loadouts is already done partly - it saves your last loadout, then you have to hit a zone |
| 02:15:54 | amgine123456 | ok and 3 preset loadouts are permanetly saved ( you dont have to redefine them every time you start the game up) |
| 02:16:27 | raptor | we decided against saving the exact one previously (we tried it) because you could start a level that required something completely different - also we wanted everyone to start the level on the same playing field |
| 02:16:59 | amgine123456 | what about presaved loadouts? |
| 02:17:05 | raptor | those are saved |
| 02:18:59 | amgine123456 | ah ok they used to not be btw i was thinking would it be possible since there are alopt more options now to maybe increase the max nubmer of presaved loadouts? ( i was thinking 5) ( also considering possibly 9?) |
| 02:20:40 | raptor | maybe - you should ask watusimoto what he thinks about that - i don't really use them much.. |
| 02:23:05 | raptor | but we're not going to change features much more before 018 |
| 02:40:07 | amgine123456 | ok i dont know why but i hosted a level in the editor it has a asteroid spwans thats normal but the asteroids are not breaking |
| 02:40:57 | amgine123456 | and they are going trough me like im not there but they respond to fire? |
| 02:41:09 | amgine123456 | if oyu dont belive me come see |
| 02:41:35 | amgine123456 | its weird this one asteroid is gltiched |
| 02:42:34 | amgine123456 | thats was weird maybe ill see if can duplicate it |
| 02:43:28 | amgine123456 | yes i got it to duplicate |
| 02:44:21 | amgine123456 | has somthing to do with having astroid spawn make the astroids fixed ( stuck in athe wall and somehow making it gltich out of th4e fixed spot |
| 02:45:04 | amgine123456 | makes the astoird invinible |
| 02:45:12 | amgine123456 | come see it if oyu have a moment |
| 02:47:42 | amgine123456 | odly enough if you shoot the where the asteroid was it will break the invicible one? |
| 02:47:50 | amgine123456 | placment error? |
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| 02:49:24 | amgine123456 | hi fordcars |
| 02:49:30 | Fordcars | Hey |
| 02:49:47 | Fordcars | what is the password for SAM exactly? |
| 02:50:00 | Fordcars | tried fordcars |
| 02:50:14 | amgine123456 | what do you mean th4e sam test server? |
| 02:50:20 | Fordcars | yep |
| 02:51:06 | amgine123456 | DONT KNOW |
| 02:51:12 | Fordcars | k |
| 02:51:12 | amgine123456 | sorry caps |
| 02:51:21 | amgine123456 | ask sam if oyu want to know |
| 02:51:25 | Fordcars | WELL THANK YOU AMGINE |
| 02:52:06 | Fordcars | k its just that the description of the serever is Password is your registered username |
| 03:12:29 | raptor | night! |
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| 03:31:17 | Fordcars | night |
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| 03:38:52 | amgine123456 | btw so you see this there is a important hack thats possible thats possible on a non hosted server i have seen it fordcars can comfirm it with several people doing it apprenrtly with cheat engine but anyways somwhow they make it so the computer plays for them |
| 03:47:17 | sam686 | I don't think the "Computer plays for them" will go very far at all, probably not as good as "s_bot". But then again, several online games have a problem with something called "Aimbot" |
| 03:51:55 | amgine123456 | well it seems when they do it makes the game play for them like a bot |
| 03:53:32 | sam686 | Maybe some players might look like a bot, but might just be really good at the game. |
| 03:54:10 | sam686 | players don't get stuck in the forcefield or other places like "S_BOT" does. |
| 04:06:18 | amgine123456 | no they were getting stuck on hte forcefeilds and stuff as fordcars if you see him |
| 04:06:31 | amgine123456 | g ask |
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| 04:13:22 | sam686 | maybe you saw "S_BOT" as a different name... |
| 04:13:39 | sam686 | robots can have any name, too.. |
| 04:15:30 | sam686 | when player get stuck, that player might be lagged out and might soon leave. |
| 04:36:32 | amgine123456 | no it didnt have the symbol that indicates its a bot |
| 04:40:03 | sam686 | It might just be a dumb player, pretending to be a bot.... |
| 04:41:18 | sam686 | the player named "Hacker" today, might just be a "CleverBot", named differently, I seen that player use all kinds of different names.. |
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| 04:59:45 | amgine123456 | btw sam i am still having difcutly trying to figure out how to host a dedicated server can you help me |
| 04:59:59 | amgine123456 | ( or anyone help) |
| 05:01:40 | sam686 | windows version of bitfighter 018 won't be so invisible anymore when started with -dedicated |
| 05:02:26 | sam686 | http://bitfighter.org/wiki/index.php/Hosting_a_dedicated_server_on_Windows maybe that might help somewhat.. |
| 05:06:03 | amgine123456 | its not wokring? |
| 05:06:20 | sam686 | check server list after clicking on it.. |
| 05:06:48 | sam686 | oh,, http://bitfighter.org/bitfighterStatus.json |
| 05:07:05 | amgine123456 | never mind it worked |
| 05:07:35 | sam686 | you can open task manager and then you can end "Bitfighter.exe" on process list |
| 05:07:46 | sam686 | if you want to quit mutliple ones but one |
| 05:09:21 | sam686 | 018 will be easier, as a window actually comes up on windows (unlike windows version of 017) |
| 05:09:29 | amgine123456 | so how do i close that one and open another one |
| 05:10:21 | amgine123456 | umm problem so i hosted a server and now i tried to open bitfighter but i got a error |
| 05:10:30 | sam686 | only 2 ways, the easy way is to log out of windows, log in, or a better way is to use "Task Manager" (right click bottom task bar or press ctrl+alt+delete) |
| 05:10:37 | amgine123456 | so bf is not working |
| 05:11:36 | amgine123456 | ok bf is now broken |
| 05:11:48 | sam686 | well, if your server is "Ping Timed Out", you usually need to go to your router, port forward UDP 28000 into your computer. I have a router I use to port forward.. |
| 05:12:22 | sam686 | Well, you need 2 shortcuts, one with -dedicated, another without dedicated for your client.. |
| 05:12:45 | amgine123456 | so i closed all of those but now im geeting the error " this application has failed to start because openal32.ddl was not found reinstalling the application may fix this problem" |
| 05:13:12 | sam686 | you don't copy the .exe, you create a shortcut to it instead.. |
| 05:13:52 | sam686 | or, if you copy .exe, you also need to copy .dll |
| 05:14:35 | amgine123456 | got it what did you say about getting the server not pinged out |
| 05:15:14 | sam686 | port forward UDP 28000 in your router, which might be http://192.168.0.1 or http://192.168.1.1 |
| 05:15:33 | amgine123456 | and how do you do that..... |
| 05:16:34 | sam686 | depends on router, so I don't really know how each router does it. |
| 05:16:45 | sam686 | mine looks like this: http://sam6.25u.com/upload/port_foward.PNG |
| 05:17:15 | sam686 | but, your computer local IP address is probably different.. |
| 05:17:24 | amgine123456 | lol how did having that many tabs open not freeze your computer Xd |
| 05:17:47 | amgine123456 | hold on ill brb |
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| 05:17:57 | sam686 | I guess my computer can handle it with 1.5 GB ram.. |
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| 22:53:33 | amgine123456 | so there is a bug if yoiu can login to the lobby with 2 of the same id even though it says it cant because it was rejected |
| 22:54:19 | amgine123456 | luckily of course in game this acount get renamed to id.0 but in the lobby it doesnt |
| 22:54:37 | amgine123456 | just thought i would add that to the running bug list hi btw |
| 22:56:07 | amgine123456 | this is for version 18 btw |
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| 23:20:06 | amgine123456_ | hi raptro did oyu see the message above |
| 23:20:16 | raptor | hi amgine123456_: not really a bug |
| 23:20:44 | amgine123456_ | i would say so you cant have duplicates in hte game but can in the lobby? |
| 23:21:29 | raptor | yeah - in the lobby it's important to know real names |
| 23:21:45 | raptor | i think the real bug is in the game |
| 23:21:59 | amgine123456_ | that could cause problems if say there was spammers which if enough people join BF trust me it will happen someday all games evtully have problems with spammers trust me it will happen |
| 23:22:07 | raptor | we should probably rethink how we do the renaming |
| 23:22:40 | amgine123456_ | i disagree just keep the renaming the way it is and fix the lobby problem |
| 23:22:59 | raptor | well, i don't think its a problem |
| 23:23:00 | amgine123456_ | sorry im arguing again i need to stop doing that |
| 23:23:21 | raptor | :) |
| 23:23:31 | amgine123456_ | you dont think its a problem somone can pretend to be somone else? oh well if you say so |
| 23:23:45 | amgine123456_ | anywasy im stilltesting a few things i forgot to |
| 23:23:53 | raptor | you cannot pretend to be an authenticated user |
| 23:24:03 | raptor | unless you have their credentials |
| 23:24:08 | raptor | we don't care about the rest |
| 23:24:33 | amgine123456_ | btw would it be possible to add a lougout functin to the game? |
| 23:24:41 | raptor | maybe |
| 23:24:42 | amgine123456_ | say in the menu? |
| 23:24:54 | raptor | that is actually something we may do for the next release |
| 23:25:14 | amgine123456_ | was somthing i was considering just have qa button that takes you to hte login screen |
| 23:25:21 | raptor | koda needs something like that for the iOS port and it may be good for every platform |
| 23:25:38 | amgine123456_ | ok =) |
| 23:26:51 | amgine123456_ | btw in the verion i have of 18 if you dedicate a server the welcome to bitfighter in the command prompt pops and says is connecting to the master server i.p but thats as far as it gets is it supposed to do that im using windows xp btw |
| 23:27:22 | raptor | i don't understand you - please use complete sentences... actually please use sentences :) |
| 23:30:42 | amgine123456_ | sorry hold on a moment |
| 23:31:52 | amgine123456_ | using www.tinypic.com to show you |
| 23:34:37 | amgine123456_ | http://tinypic.com/r/65yivs/6 ?? gets stuck and deoesnt load the game? |
| 23:35:31 | raptor | ok, so what is the problem? |
| 23:35:53 | amgine123456_ | so when i opened it it doesnt load the game or is it not supposed to |
| 23:38:03 | raptor | ok, you started a dedicated server? |
| 23:39:15 | raptor | then you connected to it from another client |
| 23:39:19 | raptor | and the level didn't start? |
| 23:39:25 | amgine123456_ | never mind |
| 23:39:27 | amgine123456_ | i got it |
| 23:41:46 | amgine123456_ | hmm weird im having problesm with the spawn in hte level not working i still spawn at a certin spot whcih is 0,0 i think |
| 23:43:07 | amgine123456_ | yes thats weird i placed a spawn saved the level but im not spawning there |
| 23:44:41 | amgine123456_ | never mind |
